Hi everybody, I'll admit I'm shamelessly seeking free advice from here -
I'm not an audiophile, just a music and movies addict, and I recently
upgraded my speakers. I have a very small living room so I went with
the Definitive ProCinema 60 set - for anyone not familiar, 4 little
cubes plus a center channel plus a subwoofer. Certainly not high-end
but not the bottom of the barrel either. The receiver, however, is
pretty cheap - a JVC RX-884V. 110 watts per channel.

My question is this: do you think there will be ayn benefit to buying
speaker cable that is better than the standard chintzy cheap cable sold
at all electronics stores? Would Monster cable produce better sound on
this setup? Are there any OTHER types of cable that you would recommend?

And finally, the speakers can accept a variety of connectors: banana
plug, pin, spade or ring, according to the description. Any
advantages/disadvantages to any of these?

Thanks in advance,

Eric

Eric the Mac Guy said:

My question is this: do you think there will be ayn benefit to buying
speaker cable that is better than the standard chintzy cheap cable sold
at all electronics stores? Would Monster cable produce better sound on
this setup? Are there any OTHER types of cable that you would recommend?

You should get 16 gauge at a minimum (14ga is better) for the
surrounds. It's a tiny investment that will safeguard the fidelity,
however limited, of the signal going to those speakers.

And finally, the speakers can accept a variety of connectors: banana
plug, pin, spade or ring, according to the description. Any
advantages/disadvantages to any of these?

Bananas are the easiest to insert and remove. Anything else requires
loosening and tightening if you change anything.

"Eric the Mac Guy" wrote in message
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Hi everybody, I'll admit I'm shamelessly seeking free advice from here -
I'm not an audiophile, just a music and movies addict, and I recently
upgraded my speakers. I have a very small living room so I went with
the Definitive ProCinema 60 set - for anyone not familiar, 4 little
cubes plus a center channel plus a subwoofer. Certainly not high-end
but not the bottom of the barrel either. The receiver, however, is
pretty cheap - a JVC RX-884V. 110 watts per channel.

My question is this: do you think there will be ayn benefit to buying
speaker cable that is better than the standard chintzy cheap cable sold
at all electronics stores?

Yes, some of that is so thin you can thread a needle with it.

The hot tip is 12 gauge stranded 2-conductor low voltage stranded wire from
your local hardware store or home improvement store.

And finally, the speakers can accept a variety of connectors: banana
plug, pin, spade or ring, according to the description. Any
advantages/disadvantages to any of these?

If you're careful and don't create a short, or a loose connection, they all
sound the same.

"Eric the Mac Guy" wrote in message
...
Hi everybody, I'll admit I'm shamelessly seeking free advice from here -
I'm not an audiophile, just a music and movies addict, and I recently
upgraded my speakers. I have a very small living room so I went with
the Definitive ProCinema 60 set - for anyone not familiar, 4 little
cubes plus a center channel plus a subwoofer. Certainly not high-end
but not the bottom of the barrel either. The receiver, however, is
pretty cheap - a JVC RX-884V. 110 watts per channel.

My question is this: do you think there will be ayn benefit to buying
speaker cable that is better than the standard chintzy cheap cable sold
at all electronics stores? Would Monster cable produce better sound on
this setup? Are there any OTHER types of cable that you would recommend?

And finally, the speakers can accept a variety of connectors: banana
plug, pin, spade or ring, according to the description. Any
advantages/disadvantages to any of these?

Thanks in advance,

Eric

There is no evidence that Monster Cable or any other brand has better sound.

One strategy which some enthusiasts pursue is to wire in parallel multiple
sets of common 16 gauge zipcord, available at Radio Shack.
If you're handy with an ohm meter, it's an effective thing to do.
Otherwise, take George's or Arny's suggestions.

Eric the Mac Guy a écrit :
Hi everybody, I'll admit I'm shamelessly seeking free advice from here -
I'm not an audiophile, just a music and movies addict, and I recently
upgraded my speakers. I have a very small living room so I went with
the Definitive ProCinema 60 set - for anyone not familiar, 4 little
cubes plus a center channel plus a subwoofer. Certainly not high-end
but not the bottom of the barrel either. The receiver, however, is
pretty cheap - a JVC RX-884V. 110 watts per channel.

My question is this: do you think there will be ayn benefit to buying
speaker cable that is better than the standard chintzy cheap cable sold
at all electronics stores? Would Monster cable produce better sound on
this setup? Are there any OTHER types of cable that you would recommend?


Let's have a look to the cheapest of the esoteric solutions :
Multi-pairs cable (phone...).
This solution have 2 major advantages :
- It fits the minimum requirements of my above friends' posts.
- It doesn't deprive you of the very long and badly argumented
discussions around this first quality troll subject. )

Lionel

"Lionel Chapuis" lionel{dot}chapuis{at}free{dot}fr wrote in message
...
Eric the Mac Guy a écrit :
Hi everybody, I'll admit I'm shamelessly seeking free advice from here -
I'm not an audiophile, just a music and movies addict, and I recently
upgraded my speakers. I have a very small living room so I went with
the Definitive ProCinema 60 set - for anyone not familiar, 4 little
cubes plus a center channel plus a subwoofer. Certainly not high-end
but not the bottom of the barrel either. The receiver, however, is
pretty cheap - a JVC RX-884V. 110 watts per channel.

My question is this: do you think there will be ayn benefit to buying
speaker cable that is better than the standard chintzy cheap cable sold
at all electronics stores? Would Monster cable produce better sound on
this setup? Are there any OTHER types of cable that you would
recommend?


Let's have a look to the cheapest of the esoteric solutions :
Multi-pairs cable (phone...).
This solution have 2 major advantages :
- It fits the minimum requirements of my above friends' posts.
- It doesn't deprive you of the very long and badly argumented
discussions around this first quality troll subject. )

Lionel

.

Ref: Cable stuff..

Eric,

By all means check with an Audio store that could arrange
some "loaner" cables. You take them home and in the private
world of your audio domain..listen and swap out cables at
a pace you are comfortable with. You decide, if the less
expensive cables sound better to you, so be it. Whatever
you are content with is the main goal.

Be wary of those on these groups that will tell you what
sounds best to you. Be happy with what "you" select.
But, do be leery of the crowd that will line up on these
Newsgroups and repeat statements made from the middle '90's
as to what is best for everyone else. Pitiful crowd!

Leonard...
__________________________________________________ __________________

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 19:56:05 -0400, Eric the Mac Guy wrote:

Hi everybody, I'll admit I'm shamelessly seeking free advice from here -
I'm not an audiophile, just a music and movies addict, and I recently
upgraded my speakers. I have a very small living room so I went with
the Definitive ProCinema 60 set - for anyone not familiar, 4 little
cubes plus a center channel plus a subwoofer. Certainly not high-end
but not the bottom of the barrel either. The receiver, however, is
pretty cheap - a JVC RX-884V. 110 watts per channel.

My question is this: do you think there will be ayn benefit to buying
speaker cable that is better than the standard chintzy cheap cable sold
at all electronics stores? Would Monster cable produce better sound on
this setup? Are there any OTHER types of cable that you would recommend?

And finally, the speakers can accept a variety of connectors: banana
plug, pin, spade or ring, according to the description. Any
advantages/disadvantages to any of these?

Thanks in advance,

Eric

Leonard a écrit :
Ref: Cable stuff..

Eric,

By all means check with an Audio store that could arrange
some "loaner" cables. You take them home and in the private
world of your audio domain..listen and swap out cables at
a pace you are comfortable with. You decide, if the less
expensive cables sound better to you, so be it. Whatever
you are content with is the main goal.

Be wary of those on these groups that will tell you what
sounds best to you. Be happy with what "you" select.
But, do be leery of the crowd that will line up on these
Newsgroups and repeat statements made from the middle '90's
as to what is best for everyone else. Pitiful crowd!

Leonard...
__________________________________________________ __________________

Hey sir,
What is your crusade ?
Before you put your dirty feet in, it was one of the quietest thread
since a long time !.....
Sorry Eric this guy is right but I don't like the way he told that.
Lionel

In rec.audio.misc Leonard wrote:


Be wary of those on these groups that will tell you what
sounds best to you. Be happy with what "you" select.
But, do be leery of the crowd that will line up on these
Newsgroups and repeat statements made from the middle '90's
as to what is best for everyone else. Pitiful crowd!

Care to be really specific as to who actually has done that?

On Sat, 13 Sep 2003, Leonard wrote:

Ref: Cable stuff..

Eric,

By all means check with an Audio store that could arrange
some "loaner" cables. You take them home and in the private
world of your audio domain..listen and swap out cables at
a pace you are comfortable with. You decide, if the less
expensive cables sound better to you, so be it. Whatever
you are content with is the main goal.

Be wary of those on these groups that will tell you what
sounds best to you. Be happy with what "you" select.
But, do be leery of the crowd that will line up on these
Newsgroups and repeat statements made from the middle '90's
as to what is best for everyone else. Pitiful crowd!

No cable is best. All properly selected cables sound the same. So say
25+ years of controlled listening. Be extremely wary of snake oil peddlers.
--
Anon E. Mouse

OR else you could try a cat5 solution from CVH or TNT's FFRC. imho a very
good bit of wire for beer money and blisters, but make sure you follow the
instructions carefully and utilise the twisted pairs feature - else they
sound crap.
An alternative option would be Jon Resh's UBTYE coax stuff. lots of people
swear by it.



"Lionel Chapuis" lionel{dot}chapuis{at}free{dot}fr wrote in message
...
Eric the Mac Guy a écrit :
Hi everybody, I'll admit I'm shamelessly seeking free advice from here -
I'm not an audiophile, just a music and movies addict, and I recently
upgraded my speakers. I have a very small living room so I went with
the Definitive ProCinema 60 set - for anyone not familiar, 4 little
cubes plus a center channel plus a subwoofer. Certainly not high-end
but not the bottom of the barrel either. The receiver, however, is
pretty cheap - a JVC RX-884V. 110 watts per channel.

My question is this: do you think there will be ayn benefit to buying
speaker cable that is better than the standard chintzy cheap cable sold
at all electronics stores? Would Monster cable produce better sound on
this setup? Are there any OTHER types of cable that you would
recommend?


Let's have a look to the cheapest of the esoteric solutions :
Multi-pairs cable (phone...).
This solution have 2 major advantages :
- It fits the minimum requirements of my above friends' posts.
- It doesn't deprive you of the very long and badly argumented
discussions around this first quality troll subject. )

Lionel

"Eric the Mac Guy" wrote in message
...
Hi everybody, I'll admit I'm shamelessly seeking free advice from here -
I'm not an audiophile, just a music and movies addict, and I recently
upgraded my speakers. I have a very small living room so I went with
the Definitive ProCinema 60 set - for anyone not familiar, 4 little
cubes plus a center channel plus a subwoofer. Certainly not high-end
but not the bottom of the barrel either. The receiver, however, is
pretty cheap - a JVC RX-884V. 110 watts per channel.

My question is this: do you think there will be ayn benefit to buying
speaker cable that is better than the standard chintzy cheap cable sold
at all electronics stores? Would Monster cable produce better sound on
this setup? Are there any OTHER types of cable that you would recommend?

The short answer is that the 16 gauge wire sold at Home Depot for about
23cents per foot is as good a wire as any you can buy in terms of sound
quality.

And finally, the speakers can accept a variety of connectors: banana
plug, pin, spade or ring, according to the description. Any
advantages/disadvantages to any of these?

No.

Thanks in advance,

Eric

Michael Mckelvy wrote:
"Eric the Mac Guy" wrote in message
...

Hi everybody, I'll admit I'm shamelessly seeking free advice from here -
I'm not an audiophile, just a music and movies addict, and I recently
upgraded my speakers. I have a very small living room so I went with
the Definitive ProCinema 60 set - for anyone not familiar, 4 little
cubes plus a center channel plus a subwoofer. Certainly not high-end
but not the bottom of the barrel either. The receiver, however, is
pretty cheap - a JVC RX-884V. 110 watts per channel.

My question is this: do you think there will be ayn benefit to buying
speaker cable that is better than the standard chintzy cheap cable sold
at all electronics stores? Would Monster cable produce better sound on
this setup? Are there any OTHER types of cable that you would recommend?


The short answer is that the 16 gauge wire sold at Home Depot for about
23cents per foot is as good a wire as any you can buy in terms of sound
quality.

Of course, a spool of 12 gauge electrical wire makes 250 ft of wire
for under $25. Good for all but the heaviest loads and worst impedances.