hello,

i saw these Shure ear-bud things. Shure's kind of a lame brand except
for their 10db pads, but anyway they got me thinking:

if the build qualit was excellent, what types of acoustical advantages
could the in-ear setup provide?

i was thinking maybe:
1) eliminates room effects
2) eliminates outer ear effects
3) only needs to output a tiny amount of power, so you can use a single
small driver and still get low bass and a flat frequency response (kind
of like a measurement microphone in reverse)

i know headphones don't provide true stereo, but in terms of linear
response, could there be some advantages?

Good IEMs cost a lot of money and they're not designed to do what you
want. You're better off spending the money fixing the room acoustics
and getting decent monitors if you want to make good recordings.

DaveT

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hello,

i saw these Shure ear-bud things. Shure's kind of a lame
brand except for their 10db pads,

That's Poco. Shure's pads are switchable.

but anyway they got me thinking:

if the build qualit was excellent, what types of
acoustical advantages could the in-ear setup provide?

i was thinking maybe:

1) eliminates room effects

This they do.

2) eliminates outer ear effects

This they do.

you forgot head effects

3) only needs to output a tiny amount of power, so you
can use a single small driver and still get low bass and
a flat frequency response (kind of like a measurement
microphone in reverse)

This they do.

What nobody says real often is that headphones and IEMs are
particularly sensitive to inner-ear effects.

i know headphones don't provide true stereo, but in terms
of linear response, could there be some advantages?

(1) Small
(2) Good ones sound really good. Shure E3s for, example.

Arny Krueger wrote:

(1) Small
(2) Good ones sound really good. Shure E3s for, example.

Etymotic ER4 and ER6 are good too.

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"Tim S Kemp" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:

(1) Small
(2) Good ones sound really good. Shure E3s for, example.

Etymotic ER4 and ER6 are good too.

At least until you hear E3s or Futersonics. ;-)

Arny Krueger wrote:

What nobody says real often is that headphones and IEMs are
particularly sensitive to inner-ear effects.

Probably 'cause that affects everything that reaches the
entrance to the ear canal. :-)


Bob
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simpler."

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On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 18:22:54 +0100, "Tim S Kemp"
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"Bob Cain" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:

What nobody says real often is that headphones and IEMs
are particularly sensitive to inner-ear effects.

Probably 'cause that affects everything that reaches the
entrance to the ear canal. :-)

Right, but because the IEM seals the hearing canal, there
are some resonance effects due to interactions between the
IEM and the ear itself.

Right, but because the IEM seals the hearing canal, there
are some resonance effects due to interactions between the
IEM and the ear itself.

Is anyone else here as fond of the STAX earphones as I am? They are
apparently correctly equalized, as they don't have any obvious colorations.