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Surround System Upgrade Advice Needed
Hi,
I have been using my system for ages (since 1989) which consists of: 2 Technics MKII Turntables (run through an inexpensive mixer) Denon DCM 450 CD Player Yamaha AX700U Integrated Amp (110 W/ch) for the main speakers Yamaha 2/4 Channel amp for the effect speakers Yamaha DSP-3000 Main speakers are biwired Linn Nexus speakers Effect speakers are four matching Mission bookshelf speakers (all mounted properly up on the walls) My problem is that the DSP-3000 has died. It emits a groaning sound at power on and although the remote operates the unit it is emitting no sound through any channels. The other problem is that I am not sure on whether I should seek a repair or look at today's available equipment, Back in the day, I wanted a system to essentially deliver the quality of the Ramones live on a large stage or small club. I originally preferred the analog wall of sound to the crisp delicate sound of CD with lighter music. However, over the years, my family listens to a full range of music and now of course DVD's for movies. Although I never got into programming reflections into the 3000, I did create some custom environments and got very good at matching programs to the music or mood I was in. The 3000 however was never designed nor very good for Dolby movies. My dream is to have a system that retains the great music oriented soundfield capacity of the 3000, but to add in the ability to use the system for home theater (but we don't have a plasma TV and don't intend to get one). The emphasis is still on the music at the moment. What manufacturers and systems would you recommend that I have a look at? Or should I just get the 3000 repaired? |
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Mark Perlsweig wrote:
What manufacturers and systems would you recommend that I have a look at? Or should I just get the 3000 repaired? I wouldn't worry too much about getting the high priced spread, or multiple components. I just replaced my separate preamp, amps, and surround processor with a receiver, a Pioneer VSX D814. The thing is inexpensive, clean, and has a multitude of adjustments and modes for up to 7.1 channel sound. I guess the Yamahas are even better - more versatile as far as an A/V system. But sound wise, I just don't see how you could do much better than this. I do not use the receiver's amps because I have several Carver M-1.5s that do a job to fill a 20 x 30 foot room. The main feature to look for is separate preamp outputs so you can use your own amps if desired. In the meantime, hell, you can use theirs for temporary duty on a center channel or a back surround speaker or whatever. I am still setting up my system for surround (proper discreet surround sound) and I appreciate this flexibility. I also appreciate the adjustments for everything from channel balance to speaker distance to subwoofer level and some tone control. Some of these things even have auto room adjustment with a calibration mike, but I prefer to roll my own. In any case, don't turn your nose up at receivers right away. Gary Eickmeier |
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"Gary Eickmeier" wrote in message
... Mark Perlsweig wrote: snip The main feature to look for is separate preamp outputs so you can use your own amps if desired. In the meantime, hell, you can use theirs for temporary duty on a center channel or a back surround speaker or whatever. I am still setting up my system for surround (proper discreet surround sound) and I appreciate this flexibility. I also appreciate the adjustments for everything from channel balance to speaker distance to subwoofer level and some tone control. Some of these things even have auto room adjustment with a calibration mike, but I prefer to roll my own. In any case, don't turn your nose up at receivers right away. I think you may find after experimenting, Gary, that the best feature a unit may have is a multi-channel bypass mode, so that a SACD player can use the power amps with only volume controlled...no digital processing at all. |
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Harry Lavo wrote:
I think you may find after experimenting, Gary, that the best feature a unit may have is a multi-channel bypass mode, so that a SACD player can use the power amps with only volume controlled...no digital processing at all. Yes, mine happens to have stereo direct as well, but who listens in stereo any more? Not you, Harry - ? Gary Eickmeier |
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"Gary Eickmeier" wrote in message
... Harry Lavo wrote: I think you may find after experimenting, Gary, that the best feature a unit may have is a multi-channel bypass mode, so that a SACD player can use the power amps with only volume controlled...no digital processing at all. Yes, mine happens to have stereo direct as well, but who listens in stereo any more? Not you, Harry - ? Gary Eickmeier Yeah, I do. But I find I favor multichannel about 2:1 and I actually have to force myself to look at my rows of CD's. This is especially true for classical, but also for many of the singer-songwriters that I like. |
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On 23 Jul 2005 17:11:30 GMT, Gary Eickmeier
wrote: Harry Lavo wrote: I think you may find after experimenting, Gary, that the best feature a unit may have is a multi-channel bypass mode, so that a SACD player can use the power amps with only volume controlled...no digital processing at all. Yes, mine happens to have stereo direct as well, but who listens in stereo any more? Not you, Harry - ? He did say "multi-channel bypass mode." Kal |
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Kalman Rubinson wrote:
He did say "multi-channel bypass mode." I guess I'm just not familiar enough with the equipment in question. My receiver has analog inputs for multi channel from any other source that has its own decoder. Is that what you're talking about? Is SAC-D a surround system? Or just two channel? Iggerant, Gary Eickmeier |
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On 24 Jul 2005 18:58:51 GMT, Gary Eickmeier
wrote: Kalman Rubinson wrote: He did say "multi-channel bypass mode." I guess I'm just not familiar enough with the equipment in question. My receiver has analog inputs for multi channel from any other source that has its own decoder. Is that what you're talking about? Is SAC-D a surround system? Or just two channel? Either/both. Kal |
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"Gary Eickmeier" wrote in message
... Kalman Rubinson wrote: He did say "multi-channel bypass mode." I guess I'm just not familiar enough with the equipment in question. My receiver has analog inputs for multi channel from any other source that has its own decoder. Is that what you're talking about? Is SAC-D a surround system? Or just two channel? Iggerant, Gary Eickmeier The analog multichannel inputs are bypass inputs (usually), and they are required for SACE and DVD-A multichannel reproduction. SACD also includes a separate stereo mix, so if you don't have multichannel setup, then just set the SACD player to default to stereo output (two speaker setup in the setup menu). In this case, you would either use the stereo bypass. |
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