.....to plan RAO games and stratagies:


http://tinyurl.com/9evty


that's Art Sackman and Tom Albertz in the background with dave weil
(left) and "George Middius" (right) in the foreground.

wrote ..

....to plan RAO games and stratagies:


your fantasy world where you are cool and you crack
all the "RAO games and stratagies[sic]" has got to be way
better than your sad reality. then you wake up. sigh.............

poor, sad Richie.

hey - I'm thinking about doing a ride in early September.
maybe 150 miles or so. any thoughts?

"sam" wrote in message

wrote ..

....to plan RAO games and stratagies:


your fantasy world where you are cool and you crack
all the "RAO games and stratagies[sic]" has got to be way
better than your sad reality. then you wake up.
sigh.............

poor, sad Richie.

hey - I'm thinking about doing a ride in early September.
maybe 150 miles or so. any thoughts?

Given your performance on RAO surf, please stay away from
dangerous places. A cliff might jump out from the side of
the road and hurt you.

sam a écrit :

hey - I'm thinking about doing a ride in early September.
maybe 150 miles or so.

Are you sure that your wife will endure such distance ? :-D

the latest from Tom Albertz/tom/surf/sam/mr. anderson/pat mabotton
etc., etc., etc.:

sammy-surf speculated:


snipped

hey - I'm thinking about doing a ride in early September.
maybe 150 miles or so.


If you enjoy cycling, I say go for it, Tammy!


any thoughts?



This time of year, cyclists thoughts turn to the Tour de France (TdF).
Here are two pieces of TdF lo



In 1975, Belgian rider Eddy Merckx is in the lead and on his way to a
record breaking sixth TdF victory when he is punched hard in the
kidney/liver/stomach (accounts vary on this) by a French fan who cannot
bear to see a Belgian break a record originally set by a Frenchman.
Although Merckx finished the TdF, he never fully recovered from the
blow and failed to win a sixth TdF.



***Lesson: riding in front of a hostile crowd can be hazardous.



In 1985, French rider Bernard Hinault was on his way to his fifth TdF
win when he crashed and broke his nose. Unable to breathe well, Hinault
slowed considerably in the following days, but still won the TdF with
the help of his American team mate, Greg LeMond.



***Lesson: you can ride with a broken nose if some one helps you along.



So, enjoy the ride. Bring a camera and post some pictures. Do try to
avoid hard punches to the mid-section and broken noses. And bring some
team mates, just in case.

Lionel wrote:
sam a =E9crit :

hey - I'm thinking about doing a ride in early September.
maybe 150 miles or so.

Are you sure that your wife will endure such distance ? :-D


She'll need a stronger domestique than Tammy/Sammy, eh? ;-)

Richie Malesweski/torrie****s/BillMcCullough/TonyLoban/etc./etc. writes:

So, enjoy the ride. Bring a camera and post some pictures. Do try to
avoid hard punches to the mid-section and broken noses. And bring some
team mates, just in case.

Why all the hostility, Rich? Come on.. send me an email. Get real.

"sam" wrote in message
...
wrote ..

poor, sad Richie.

hey - I'm thinking about doing a ride in early September.
maybe 150 miles or so. any thoughts?

I think you're mistaken, Sam. Richie doesn't know how to ride a bike, he
just lubes the chain. And I'm sure he had to lube something else too to get
that original Krueger he's been showing around.

Cheers,

Margaret

a écrit :
the latest from Tom Albertz/tom/surf/sam/mr. anderson/pat mabotton
etc., etc., etc.:

sammy-surf speculated:


snipped

hey - I'm thinking about doing a ride in early September.
maybe 150 miles or so.



If you enjoy cycling, I say go for it, Tammy!


any thoughts?




This time of year, cyclists thoughts turn to the Tour de France (TdF).
Here are two pieces of TdF lo



In 1975, Belgian rider Eddy Merckx is in the lead and on his way to a
record breaking sixth TdF victory when he is punched hard in the
kidney/liver/stomach (accounts vary on this) by a French fan who cannot
bear to see a Belgian break a record originally set by a Frenchman.
Although Merckx finished the TdF, he never fully recovered from the
blow and failed to win a sixth TdF.



***Lesson: riding in front of a hostile crowd can be hazardous.



In 1985, French rider Bernard Hinault was on his way to his fifth TdF
win when he crashed and broke his nose. Unable to breathe well, Hinault
slowed considerably in the following days, but still won the TdF with
the help of his American team mate, Greg LeMond.



***Lesson: you can ride with a broken nose if some one helps you along.



So, enjoy the ride. Bring a camera and post some pictures. Do try to
avoid hard punches to the mid-section and broken noses. And bring some
team mates, just in case.

:-)

Margaret von B. a écrit :
"sam" wrote in message
...

wrote ..

poor, sad Richie.

hey - I'm thinking about doing a ride in early September.
maybe 150 miles or so. any thoughts?


I think you're mistaken, Sam. Richie doesn't know how to ride a bike, he
just lubes the chain. And I'm sure he had to lube something else too to get
that original Krueger he's been showing around.

Are you speaking about Middius' asshole ? ;-)

Margaret von B. a écrit :

"sam" wrote in message
...

wrote ..

poor, sad Richie.

hey - I'm thinking about doing a ride in early September.
maybe 150 miles or so. any thoughts?


I think you're mistaken, Sam. Richie doesn't know how to ride a bike, he
just lubes the chain...

So what, ol' queer ?
A barman often knows his customers better than their wifes.

Lionel wrote:
a =E9crit :
the latest from Tom Albertz/tom/surf/sam/mr. anderson/pat mabotton
etc., etc., etc.:

sammy-surf speculated:


snipped

hey - I'm thinking about doing a ride in early September.
maybe 150 miles or so.



If you enjoy cycling, I say go for it, Tammy!


any thoughts?




This time of year, cyclists thoughts turn to the Tour de France (TdF).
Here are two pieces of TdF lo



In 1975, Belgian rider Eddy Merckx is in the lead and on his way to a
record breaking sixth TdF victory when he is punched hard in the
kidney/liver/stomach (accounts vary on this) by a French fan who cannot
bear to see a Belgian break a record originally set by a Frenchman.
Although Merckx finished the TdF, he never fully recovered from the
blow and failed to win a sixth TdF.



***Lesson: riding in front of a hostile crowd can be hazardous.



In 1985, French rider Bernard Hinault was on his way to his fifth TdF
win when he crashed and broke his nose. Unable to breathe well, Hinault
slowed considerably in the following days, but still won the TdF with
the help of his American team mate, Greg LeMond.



***Lesson: you can ride with a broken nose if some one helps you along.



So, enjoy the ride. Bring a camera and post some pictures. Do try to
avoid hard punches to the mid-section and broken noses. And bring some
team mates, just in case.
=20
:-)


Nothing like a little "history lesson", eh? :-D

a écrit :

Lionel wrote:

a écrit :

the latest from Tom Albertz/tom/surf/sam/mr. anderson/pat mabotton
etc., etc., etc.:

sammy-surf speculated:


snipped

hey - I'm thinking about doing a ride in early September.
maybe 150 miles or so.



If you enjoy cycling, I say go for it, Tammy!


any thoughts?




This time of year, cyclists thoughts turn to the Tour de France (TdF).
Here are two pieces of TdF lo



In 1975, Belgian rider Eddy Merckx is in the lead and on his way to a
record breaking sixth TdF victory when he is punched hard in the
kidney/liver/stomach (accounts vary on this) by a French fan who cannot
bear to see a Belgian break a record originally set by a Frenchman.
Although Merckx finished the TdF, he never fully recovered from the
blow and failed to win a sixth TdF.



***Lesson: riding in front of a hostile crowd can be hazardous.



In 1985, French rider Bernard Hinault was on his way to his fifth TdF
win when he crashed and broke his nose. Unable to breathe well, Hinault
slowed considerably in the following days, but still won the TdF with
the help of his American team mate, Greg LeMond.



***Lesson: you can ride with a broken nose if some one helps you along.



So, enjoy the ride. Bring a camera and post some pictures. Do try to
avoid hard punches to the mid-section and broken noses. And bring some
team mates, just in case.

:-)



Nothing like a little "history lesson", eh? :-D

Le Tour de France is a great legend maker. ;-)

Lionel wrote:
a =E9crit :

Lionel wrote:

a =E9crit :

the latest from Tom Albertz/tom/surf/sam/mr. anderson/pat mabotton
etc., etc., etc.:

sammy-surf speculated:


snipped

hey - I'm thinking about doing a ride in early September.
maybe 150 miles or so.



If you enjoy cycling, I say go for it, Tammy!


any thoughts?




This time of year, cyclists thoughts turn to the Tour de France (TdF).
Here are two pieces of TdF lo



In 1975, Belgian rider Eddy Merckx is in the lead and on his way to a
record breaking sixth TdF victory when he is punched hard in the
kidney/liver/stomach (accounts vary on this) by a French fan who cannot
bear to see a Belgian break a record originally set by a Frenchman.
Although Merckx finished the TdF, he never fully recovered from the
blow and failed to win a sixth TdF.



***Lesson: riding in front of a hostile crowd can be hazardous.



In 1985, French rider Bernard Hinault was on his way to his fifth TdF
win when he crashed and broke his nose. Unable to breathe well, Hinault
slowed considerably in the following days, but still won the TdF with
the help of his American team mate, Greg LeMond.



***Lesson: you can ride with a broken nose if some one helps you along.



So, enjoy the ride. Bring a camera and post some pictures. Do try to
avoid hard punches to the mid-section and broken noses. And bring some
team mates, just in case.

:-)



Nothing like a little "history lesson", eh? :-D

Le Tour de France is a great legend maker. ;-)


Speaking of Le Tour, Lionel, I see it has been 20 years since a French
rider finished with the Yellow Jersey. In the past 19 Tours, there have
been 9 wins by Americans, 6 by Spaniards and one each by an Irishman, a
Dane, a German and an Italian. Are there any up and coming French
riders to give the faithful hope?

BTW, who is your pick for this Tour?

"Lionel" wrote in message

Margaret von B. a écrit :
"sam" wrote in message
...

wrote ..

poor, sad Richie.

hey - I'm thinking about doing a ride in early
September.
maybe 150 miles or so. any thoughts?


I think you're mistaken, Sam. Richie doesn't know how to
ride
a bike, he just lubes the chain. And I'm sure he had to
lube
something else too to get that original Krueger he's been
showing around.

Are you speaking about Middius' asshole ? ;-)

I prefer showing off something far lighter and more
compact - Middius' head.

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Lionel" wrote in message

Margaret von B. a =E9crit :
"sam" wrote in message
...

wrote ..

poor, sad Richie.

hey - I'm thinking about doing a ride in early
September.
maybe 150 miles or so. any thoughts?


I think you're mistaken, Sam. Richie doesn't know how to
ride
a bike, he just lubes the chain. And I'm sure he had to
lube
something else too to get that original Krueger he's been
showing around.

Are you speaking about Middius' asshole ? ;-)

I prefer showing off something far lighter and more
compact - Middius' head.


On a spike, I hope. :-D

wrote in message
oups.com
Arny Krueger wrote:
"Lionel" wrote in message

Margaret von B. a écrit :
"sam" wrote in message
...

wrote ..

poor, sad Richie.

hey - I'm thinking about doing a ride in early
September.
maybe 150 miles or so. any thoughts?


I think you're mistaken, Sam. Richie doesn't know how
to
ride a bike, he just lubes the chain. And I'm sure he
had
to lube something else too to get that original Krueger
he's been showing around.

Are you speaking about Middius' asshole ? ;-)

I prefer showing off something far lighter and more
compact - Middius' head.


On a spike, I hope. :-D

No, a blunt stick - it goes better with his wit.

Arny Krueger wrote:
wrote in message
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Arny Krueger wrote:
"Lionel" wrote in message

Margaret von B. a =E9crit :
"sam" wrote in message
...

wrote ..

poor, sad Richie.

hey - I'm thinking about doing a ride in early
September.
maybe 150 miles or so. any thoughts?


I think you're mistaken, Sam. Richie doesn't know how
to
ride a bike, he just lubes the chain. And I'm sure he
had
to lube something else too to get that original Krueger
he's been showing around.

Are you speaking about Middius' asshole ? ;-)

I prefer showing off something far lighter and more
compact - Middius' head.


On a spike, I hope. :-D

No, a blunt stick - it goes better with his wit.


Remember when he was "Glanbrok, conquerer of bluntskulls"? Now he's
"Middius, leader of dimwits". :-D

wrote in message
ups.com
Arny Krueger wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com
Arny Krueger wrote:
"Lionel" wrote in message

Margaret von B. a écrit :
"sam" wrote in message
...

wrote ..

poor, sad Richie.

hey - I'm thinking about doing a ride in early
September.
maybe 150 miles or so. any thoughts?


I think you're mistaken, Sam. Richie doesn't know how
to
ride a bike, he just lubes the chain. And I'm sure he
had
to lube something else too to get that original
Krueger
he's been showing around.

Are you speaking about Middius' asshole ? ;-)

I prefer showing off something far lighter and more
compact - Middius' head.


On a spike, I hope. :-D

No, a blunt stick - it goes better with his wit.


Remember when he was "Glanbrok, conquerer of bluntskulls"?
Now
he's "Middius, leader of dimwits". :-D

Indeed - given that his chief disciples are Art and Surf.
It's hard to imagine dimmer wits in all of Usenet.

Tommy the Blowhard's bravado takes a powder:

sam/tom/surf wrote:


snipped

Why all the hostility


*POOF!* there it went!


Come on.. send me an email.


Oh yeah, I'll get right on it.


Get real.


LOL!!!!


You will keep us posted on that bike ride, won't you?

said:

In 1985, French rider Bernard Hinault was on his way to his fifth TdF
win when he crashed and broke his nose. Unable to breathe well, Hinault
slowed considerably in the following days, but still won the TdF with
the help of his American team mate, Greg LeMond.

***Lesson: you can ride with a broken nose if some one helps you along.


What about Lance Armstrong?
If there's any lesson, it's how to fight cancer and be a winner.

I have a deep respect for this man.

--

"Audio as a serious hobby is going down the tubes."
- Howard Ferstler, 25/4/2005

The Big Hippy wrote...

Tommy the Blowhard's bravado takes a powder:

whatever...

sam/tom/surf wrote:

Why all the hostility

*POOF!* there it went!

yeah. whatever...

Come on.. send me an email.

Oh yeah, I'll get right on it.

What have you got to lose?

Get real.

LOL!!!!

do you suppose I've discussed this reply with "George", Reality Man?

"sam" wrote in message

The Big Hippy wrote...

Tommy the Blowhard's bravado takes a powder:

whatever...

sam/tom/surf wrote:

Why all the hostility

*POOF!* there it went!

yeah. whatever...

Come on.. send me an email.

Oh yeah, I'll get right on it.

What have you got to lose?

Major spamming?

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message

What about Lance Armstrong?

If there's any lesson, it's how to fight cancer and be a
winner.

I have a deep respect for this man.

As would anybody who deserts his wife and 3 children (one
pair twins) for Cheryl Crow?

Arny Krueger a écrit :
"Sander deWaal" wrote in message


What about Lance Armstrong?


If there's any lesson, it's how to fight cancer and be a
winner.


I have a deep respect for this man.


As would anybody who deserts his wife and 3 children (one
pair twins) for Cheryl Crow?

"Le coeur a des raisons que la raison ignore".

"Arny Krueger" said:


What about Lance Armstrong?

If there's any lesson, it's how to fight cancer and be a
winner.

I have a deep respect for this man.


As would anybody who deserts his wife and 3 children (one
pair twins) for Cheryl Crow?


He did that? I wasn't aware of that.

Anyway, it doesn't change my thoughts about him fighting a potentially
deadly disease and come out of it as a winner.

--

"Audio as a serious hobby is going down the tubes."
- Howard Ferstler, 25/4/2005

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Sander deWaal" wrote in message

What about Lance Armstrong?

If there's any lesson, it's how to fight cancer and be a
winner.

I have a deep respect for this man.

As would anybody who deserts his wife and 3 children (one
pair twins) for Cheryl Crow?


Arny, by most accounts, the private Lance Armstrong is not a pleasant
person to be around. That said, apparently it was Mrs. Armstrong who
wanted the divorce. She grew tired of the demands of the lifestyle of a
high level pro cyclist (constant travel, living in Europe much of the
time, etc.)


It will be interesting to see how long Crow stays interested after
Armstrong retires and the spotlight dims.

"Lionel" wrote in message

Arny Krueger a écrit :
"Sander deWaal" wrote in message


What about Lance Armstrong?


If there's any lesson, it's how to fight cancer and be a
winner.


I have a deep respect for this man.


As would anybody who deserts his wife and 3 children (one
pair twins) for Cheryl Crow?

"Le coeur a des raisons que la raison ignore".

Interesting phrase.

Sander deWaal wrote:
said:

In 1985, French rider Bernard Hinault was on his way to his fifth TdF
win when he crashed and broke his nose. Unable to breathe well, Hinault
slowed considerably in the following days, but still won the TdF with
the help of his American team mate, Greg LeMond.

***Lesson: you can ride with a broken nose if some one helps you along.


What about Lance Armstrong?
If there's any lesson, it's how to fight cancer and be a winner.


That is a wonderful story, Sander. Interestingly, Armstrong's ordeal
may have made him a better rider by raising his pain threshold and
putting the suffering of climbing a big mountain in perspective
(Armstrong himself has suggested this). Prior to his illness, Armstrong
was a good, not great, cyclist. He won a few stages in the TdF, but
only finished once, in 36th place. After the illness, he was a
different rider. IMO, not quite at the level of Merckx, or even
Hinault, but dominant in his era.

I have a deep respect for this man.

Agreed. I also marvel at the way Greg Lemond came back from very nearly
fatal shotgun wounds to the chest to win two more Tours.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Sander deWaal" wrote in message

What about Lance Armstrong?

If there's any lesson, it's how to fight cancer and be a
winner.

I have a deep respect for this man.

As would anybody who deserts his wife and 3 children (one
pair twins) for Cheryl Crow?



What did *you* do to bring about the tragedy upon your family? Certainly it
was God's comment on you.

Cheers,

Margaret

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
...
"Arny Krueger" said:


What about Lance Armstrong?

If there's any lesson, it's how to fight cancer and be a
winner.

I have a deep respect for this man.


As would anybody who deserts his wife and 3 children (one
pair twins) for Cheryl Crow?


He did that? I wasn't aware of that.


It wasn't nearly as simple as that. I took two to end it. Only the retards
who read The Globe in the grocery line would make statements like Krueger.

Anyway, it doesn't change my thoughts about him fighting a potentially
deadly disease and come out of it as a winner.


The key word is "winner". Losers cannot stand winners, especially here.


Cheers,

Margaret

Tammy gets the "whatever"s:

Tommy the Blowhard's bravado takes a powder:

whatever...

sam/tom/surf wrote:

Why all the hostility

*POOF!* there it went!

yeah. whatever...

Come on.. send me an email.

Oh yeah, I'll get right on it.

What have you got to lose?


My time and energy. You're not worth any of either. Are we clear on
this point, Tammy?


Get real.

LOL!!!!

do you suppose I've discussed this reply with "George", Reality Man?


I really don't give a ****, you neurotic little asshole. Are we clear
on this point?



PLONK goes the "Sam" alias! :-D

Margaret von B. wrote:


snipped


I took two to end it.


Next time, take a dozen, just to be sure. Or try using something else,
like a gun.

a écrit :

Lionel wrote:

a écrit :

Lionel wrote:


a écrit :


the latest from Tom Albertz/tom/surf/sam/mr. anderson/pat mabotton
etc., etc., etc.:

sammy-surf speculated:


snipped

hey - I'm thinking about doing a ride in early September.
maybe 150 miles or so.



If you enjoy cycling, I say go for it, Tammy!



any thoughts?




This time of year, cyclists thoughts turn to the Tour de France (TdF).
Here are two pieces of TdF lo



In 1975, Belgian rider Eddy Merckx is in the lead and on his way to a
record breaking sixth TdF victory when he is punched hard in the
kidney/liver/stomach (accounts vary on this) by a French fan who cannot
bear to see a Belgian break a record originally set by a Frenchman.
Although Merckx finished the TdF, he never fully recovered from the
blow and failed to win a sixth TdF.



***Lesson: riding in front of a hostile crowd can be hazardous.



In 1985, French rider Bernard Hinault was on his way to his fifth TdF
win when he crashed and broke his nose. Unable to breathe well, Hinault
slowed considerably in the following days, but still won the TdF with
the help of his American team mate, Greg LeMond.



***Lesson: you can ride with a broken nose if some one helps you along.



So, enjoy the ride. Bring a camera and post some pictures. Do try to
avoid hard punches to the mid-section and broken noses. And bring some
team mates, just in case.

:-)



Nothing like a little "history lesson", eh? :-D

Le Tour de France is a great legend maker. ;-)



Speaking of Le Tour, Lionel, I see it has been 20 years since a French
rider finished with the Yellow Jersey. In the past 19 Tours, there have
been 9 wins by Americans, 6 by Spaniards and one each by an Irishman, a
Dane, a German and an Italian. Are there any up and coming French
riders to give the faithful hope?

It's not a big problem for me since I am a fan of Tour de
France and not fan of riders.
Moreover I like Lance since he won Worldchampionship in '93.
At this time he was already an atypique rider with an
atypique morphology but already a face of winner/leader.
Armstrong has brought a lot to cyclism sport in term of
training, effort management and technic.
He is *the* real grand champion, leader, gentleman who
deserve all his victories.

Concerning French riders in the end '80 a guy named
Jean-François Bernard was a potential winner but... he
wasted his career.


BTW, who is your pick for this Tour?

Lance for an other one...
I just hope others will attack him seriously this time. ;-)

Margaret von B. a écrit :

The key word is "winner". Losers cannot stand winners, especially here.

This surely explain why you have been afraid to introduce
yourself to Arnold during the meeting in NY.
A perfect winner's attitude, eh "Margaret" ? ;-)

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" said:


What about Lance Armstrong?

If there's any lesson, it's how to fight cancer and be a
winner.

I have a deep respect for this man.


As would anybody who deserts his wife and 3 children (one
pair twins) for Cheryl Crow?


He did that? I wasn't aware of that.

http://www.booknoise.net/armstrong/qanda.html


Anyway, it doesn't change my thoughts about him fighting a
potentially deadly disease and come out of it as a winner.


In Lance's case, its all about *me*.

"Margaret von B." wrote
in
message


The key word is "winner". Losers cannot stand winners,
especially here.

Hence the ankle-biting from the Middius clique.

Lionel wrote:
Margaret von B. a =E9crit :

The key word is "winner". Losers cannot stand winners, especially here.

This surely explain why you have been afraid to introduce
yourself to Arnold during the meeting in NY.
A perfect winner's attitude, eh "Margaret" ? ;-)


Mags was "out of costume", so it would have been awkward. Also, "she"
probably has a deeper voice than Atkinson (and without the lisp).


BTW, Lionel, don't you wish you were enough of a "winner" to be a
cyber-transvestite? ;-)

"Margaret von B." wrote
in
message
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

As would anybody who deserts his wife and 3 children (one
pair twins) for Cheryl Crow?

What did *you* do to bring about the tragedy upon your
family?

Give Middius and his clique the time of day.

Certainly it was God's comment on you.

It must really suck being you, Maggie.

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Margaret von B." wrote
in
message
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

As would anybody who deserts his wife and 3 children (one
pair twins) for Cheryl Crow?

What did *you* do to bring about the tragedy upon your
family?

Give Middius and his clique the time of day.

Certainly it was God's comment on you.

It must really suck being you, Maggie.


It must. :-O