I have an antique Mercedes that has a standard DIN radio opening.
Due to the construction of the dash, flip-up or slide-up front panels can't
be accomodated -- there is a strip of uphollstery that is directly above the
radio opening.

Are there any outstanding radio/CD players that have a simple, unextended
DIN compatible front panel?

"Robert Morein" wrote in message
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I have an antique Mercedes that has a standard DIN radio opening.
Due to the construction of the dash, flip-up or slide-up front panels
can't be accomodated -- there is a strip of uphollstery that is directly
above the radio opening.

Are there any outstanding radio/CD players that have a simple, unextended
DIN compatible front panel?


One stands above the others. McIntosh MX406. It can be further souped up
with options that can be hidden outta sight.

Cheers,

Margaret

"Margaret von B." wrote in message
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"Robert Morein" wrote in message
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I have an antique Mercedes that has a standard DIN radio opening.
Due to the construction of the dash, flip-up or slide-up front panels
can't be accomodated -- there is a strip of uphollstery that is directly
above the radio opening.

Are there any outstanding radio/CD players that have a simple, unextended
DIN compatible front panel?


One stands above the others. McIntosh MX406. It can be further souped up
with options that can be hidden outta sight.

Cheers,

Margaret


Look he

http://www.teamrocs.com/reviews/headunits/mx406.htm

The review itself is so-so but the specs and picture are informative.

Cheers,

Margaret

Robert Morein wrote


I have an antique Mercedes that has a standard DIN radio opening.
Due to the construction of the dash, flip-up or slide-up front panels can't
be accomodated -- there is a strip of uphollstery that is directly above the
radio opening.


I don't know what you meant by "slide-up" front panels, modern cd decks
usually comes with motorized flip-down or up. I doubt that it would collide
with
the uphollstery above the radio opening. They usually open up in an angle
without extending over the height of the deck. Anyway, it might be much
better to have the profesional installer do this if possible. Labor is
usually
almost free if you buy the unit from them. You probably had that original
worn down radio from that antique Mercedes, get rid of that.

I recently bought a new CD deck, which the dealer installed for me. It
took the guys at least 2 1/2 hours to remove and install the new one.
I'm doing the whole rewiring right now finally! and I knew this thing is going
to
take me more that 6 hours. I know, I've done this before. For this job,
I'm using the AQ type 2.1 speaker cable -- all 61 ft. of it. It's a solid
long grain copper in quad helix.


Are there any outstanding radio/CD players that have a simple, unextended
DIN compatible front panel?

The cd deck I just bought is Clarion DRZ9255. This is their latest and
I'm talkin top of the line here.

For the eyes:

http://www.clarion.com/usa/products/...s/DRZ9255.html

http://www.cardomain.com/item/CLADRZ9255

This comes in standard size single din, it has that classic look and none of
that fancy motorized flip ups.

This is not the typical decks btw, it has three different modes for speaker
configuration. Cross-over points for each speakers is set through the unit.

More about DRZ9255 over at rec.audio.car, if you search.

Robert Morein wrote


I have an antique Mercedes that has a standard DIN radio opening.
Due to the construction of the dash, flip-up or slide-up front panels can't
be accomodated -- there is a strip of uphollstery that is directly above the
radio opening.


I don't know what you meant by "slide-up" front panels, modern cd decks
usually comes with motorized flip-down or up. I doubt that it would collide
withthe uphollstery above the radio opening. They usually open up in an
angle without extending over the height of the deck. Anyway, it might be
much better to have the profesional installer do this if possible. Labor is
usually almost free if you buy the unit from them. You probably had that
original worn down radio from that antique Mercedes, get rid of that.

I recently bought a new CD deck, which the dealer installed for me. It
took the guys at least 2 1/2 hours to remove and install the new one.
I'm doing the whole rewiring right now finally! and I knew this thing is going
to take me more that 6 hours. I know, I've done this before. For this job,
I'm using the AQ type 2.1 speaker cable -- all 61 ft. of it. It's a solid
long grain copper in quad helix.


Are there any outstanding radio/CD players that have a simple, unextended
DIN compatible front panel?

The cd deck I just bought is Clarion DRZ9255. This is their latest and
I'm talkin top of the line here.

For the eyes:

http://www.clarion.com/usa/products/...s/DRZ9255.html

http://www.cardomain.com/item/CLADRZ9255

This comes in standard size single din, it has that classic look and none of
that fancy motorized flip ups.

This is not the typical decks btw, it has three different modes for speaker
configuration. Cross-over points for each speakers is set through the unit.

More about DRZ9255 over at rec.audio.car, if you search.

It is SOOO perfect. I'm afraid $500 is my limit, however.

"Margaret von B." wrote in message
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"Margaret von B." wrote in message
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"Robert Morein" wrote in message
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I have an antique Mercedes that has a standard DIN radio opening.
Due to the construction of the dash, flip-up or slide-up front panels
can't be accomodated -- there is a strip of uphollstery that is
directly
above the radio opening.

Are there any outstanding radio/CD players that have a simple,
unextended
DIN compatible front panel?


One stands above the others. McIntosh MX406. It can be further souped up
with options that can be hidden outta sight.

Cheers,

Margaret


Look he

http://www.teamrocs.com/reviews/headunits/mx406.htm

The review itself is so-so but the specs and picture are informative.

Cheers,

Margaret

"EddieM" wrote in message
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Robert Morein wrote


I have an antique Mercedes that has a standard DIN radio opening.
Due to the construction of the dash, flip-up or slide-up front panels
can't
be accomodated -- there is a strip of uphollstery that is directly above
the
radio opening.


I don't know what you meant by "slide-up" front panels, modern cd decks
usually comes with motorized flip-down or up. I doubt that it would
collide
withthe uphollstery above the radio opening.

It would, because the upholstery actually droops (by design) slightly over
the top of the radio. I have to remove the upholstery strip to get the radio
out.

Robert Morein wrote



It is SOOO perfect. I'm afraid $500 is my limit, however.


It says $1000, that thing cost about 2000 buck as far as
my last research goes and you can't fast frwd or rewind when
listening to a song. Sound quality is good though.

For the amount of money you have in mind, you'll have lots of
choices. But first, how do you intend to drive the speakers
inside your fine antique car, are you gonna go separates?
I think you should also have a subwoofer. If you want some
fun but want to play it safe, then go with the best and get a
DRZ9255. Rekindle those flickering lights in dash and you'll
glow gleaming with glee.

"EddieM" wrote in message
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Robert Morein wrote



It is SOOO perfect. I'm afraid $500 is my limit, however.


It says $1000, that thing cost about 2000 buck as far as
my last research goes and you can't fast frwd or rewind when
listening to a song. Sound quality is good though.

For the amount of money you have in mind, you'll have lots of
choices. But first, how do you intend to drive the speakers
inside your fine antique car, are you gonna go separates?

It's evolved over the many years I've owned it.
It has a 25 wpc Sanyo amp in the trunk, driving Pioneer triaxials on the
rear deck.

I think you should also have a subwoofer.
Sure, but I'm not a big-boom guy. All I need is some nice jazz & classical.

If you want some
fun but want to play it safe, then go with the best and get a
DRZ9255. Rekindle those flickering lights in dash and you'll
glow gleaming with glee.

Is it a fact that these very high end units are superior to, say, a Pioneer?
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn...etailComponent

Twenty years ago, Pioneer stuff was obviously second rate. But everything
has gotten so much better.
This one has 24 bit converters.

"EddieM" wrote in message
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Robert Morein wrote



It is SOOO perfect. I'm afraid $500 is my limit, however.


It says $1000, that thing cost about 2000 buck as far as
my last research goes

That sounds very high, I paid less than $3K for the headunit, external DAC,
CD changer and the meter module. This included shipping from FL to TX and
there was no tax. This should put the headunit price around $1K.

and you can't fast frwd or rewind when
listening to a song.

True. But do you really do that outside your studio setup?

Sound quality is good though.

And is likely to stay that way. :-)

For the amount of money you have in mind, you'll have lots of
choices. But first, how do you intend to drive the speakers
inside your fine antique car, are you gonna go separates?
I think you should also have a subwoofer.

The little Focal Utopia woofers are a great solution for those who don't
want to cut up their fine classic vehicle.

If you want some
fun but want to play it safe, then go with the best and get a
DRZ9255.

Actually both brands are owned by the same company now so there should be
lots of common technology in both.

Rekindle those flickering lights in dash and you'll
glow gleaming with glee.

That is SOOOO Honda Civic or Mitsubishi Eclipse.


Cheers,

Margaret

Robert Morein wrote




Is it a fact that these very high end units are superior to, say, a Pioneer?

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn.../0,,2076_4041_
64496601_tab=B,00.html?compName=PNA_ProductDetailC omponent

Twenty years ago, Pioneer stuff was obviously second rate. But everything
has gotten so much better.
This one has 24 bit converters.


That seems a nice deck in the link you have there. But it doesn't have a
parametric EQ which I think is advantageous to have in awkward environment
typical for cars. It also doesn't have the capability to set the x-over for
individual speakers and tweeters through the unit. X-over settings that allow
you to make a wide variety of setting and filter slope for each component
in order to reach the most natural, seamless sounds from all components.

It has a Pro Mode which you probably won't take advantage of because you
already have a triaxials on the rear. And it has a built-in speaker
power that you will be paying for but probably won't use 'cause you already
have a Sanyo amp for the rear.

Anyway, I don't know what you mean how and in what way those very highend
unit would be superior to that Pioneer in the link. A unit which I have not
heard,
btw.

"Margaret von B." wrote in message
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"EddieM" wrote in message
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Robert Morein wrote



It is SOOO perfect. I'm afraid $500 is my limit, however.


It says $1000, that thing cost about 2000 buck as far as
my last research goes

That sounds very high, I paid less than $3K for the headunit, external
DAC,
CD changer and the meter module. This included shipping from FL to TX and
there was no tax. This should put the headunit price around $1K.

and you can't fast frwd or rewind when
listening to a song.

True. But do you really do that outside your studio setup?

Sound quality is good though.

And is likely to stay that way. :-)

For the amount of money you have in mind, you'll have lots of
choices. But first, how do you intend to drive the speakers
inside your fine antique car, are you gonna go separates?
I think you should also have a subwoofer.

The little Focal Utopia woofers are a great solution for those who don't
want to cut up their fine classic vehicle.

If you want some
fun but want to play it safe, then go with the best and get a
DRZ9255.

Actually both brands are owned by the same company now so there should be
lots of common technology in both.

Rekindle those flickering lights in dash and you'll
glow gleaming with glee.

That is SOOOO Honda Civic or Mitsubishi Eclipse.


Cheers,

Margaret

Your recommendations are all fine and very much appreciated.
I should have known that my use of the word "outstanding" in this context
would lead to discussions of audio componentry at a higher price point that
I anticipated.
While I'm a perfectionist at home, this 1969 280S is just too noisy at
highway speeds to justify it.
At least I can take comfort that Arny will tell me the difference can't be
heard

I just adjusted the valve lash. That should cut down on the noise a little

"Robert Morein" wrote in message
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"Margaret von B." wrote in message
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"EddieM" wrote in message
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Robert Morein wrote



It is SOOO perfect. I'm afraid $500 is my limit, however.


It says $1000, that thing cost about 2000 buck as far as
my last research goes

That sounds very high, I paid less than $3K for the headunit, external
DAC,
CD changer and the meter module. This included shipping from FL to TX and
there was no tax. This should put the headunit price around $1K.

and you can't fast frwd or rewind when
listening to a song.

True. But do you really do that outside your studio setup?

Sound quality is good though.

And is likely to stay that way. :-)

For the amount of money you have in mind, you'll have lots of
choices. But first, how do you intend to drive the speakers
inside your fine antique car, are you gonna go separates?
I think you should also have a subwoofer.

The little Focal Utopia woofers are a great solution for those who don't
want to cut up their fine classic vehicle.

If you want some
fun but want to play it safe, then go with the best and get a
DRZ9255.

Actually both brands are owned by the same company now so there should be
lots of common technology in both.

Rekindle those flickering lights in dash and you'll
glow gleaming with glee.

That is SOOOO Honda Civic or Mitsubishi Eclipse.


Cheers,

Margaret

Your recommendations are all fine and very much appreciated.
I should have known that my use of the word "outstanding" in this context
would lead to discussions of audio componentry at a higher price point
that
I anticipated.
While I'm a perfectionist at home, this 1969 280S is just too noisy at
highway speeds to justify it.
At least I can take comfort that Arny will tell me the difference can't be
heard

I just adjusted the valve lash. That should cut down on the noise a little




Bob,

Shut up and start bidding.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ayphotohosting

Chances are it'll go for under $500.


Cheers,

Margaret