I didn't want to hijack the other "Double Bass" thread, but I also thot
I'd find discussion about _upright_ bass mic recommendations. g

I'd love to hear mic suggestions for an upright in a traditional jazz
combo setting. I've been using a 77DX in figure 8 positioned carefully
just above the player's right hand. But sometimes, I need a more
focused (less wooly) sound. I haven't been particularily happy with an
RE20 or KM84. I may try a Soundelux U-195 next.

Suggestions? [I have a decent mic collection & great pres.]


AND - I'll use the opportunity to mention a new(?) bass mic I heard
recently in live situations: It's an unique design: AMT S25B.
Here's a pic...
http://www.micguys.com/amt/amt_s25b.htm

The sound is quite surprising. Good response in all ranges. If you
have a chance to audition one, DO IT.

Anyone have any personal (recording) experience with this mic?
Where can it be purchased for less than $600?

Best...
Rich

On 4/12/05 5:49 PM, in article
, "Rich"
wrote:

I've been using a 77DX in figure 8 positioned carefully
just above the player's right hand. But sometimes, I need a more
focused (less wooly) sound.

This would be more a factor of POSITION than mic (unless you have a notsohot
77). I've gotten excellent results even with a lowly RCA SK46 (small ribbon)
or the classic km84 approach.

Position
Position
Position

SSJVCmag wrote:
On 4/12/05 5:49 PM, in article
, "Rich"
wrote:

I've been using a 77DX in figure 8 positioned carefully
just above the player's right hand. But sometimes, I need a more
focused (less wooly) sound.

This would be more a factor of POSITION than mic (unless you have a
notsohot
77). I've gotten excellent results even with a lowly RCA SK46 (small
ribbon)
or the classic km84 approach.

Position
Position
Position

i would use a 77dx in almost any situation that it would work in.
Position is absolutely critical.

Another mic I find that works extremely well is a Neumann 563, which i
find to have more of a "wood " sound.

richard kuschel

I have found a pickup that blew me away . A customer brought in a Pick
Up the World mounted on his bass. the sound was fabulous. It appears
to be some form of capacitive pickup rather than piezo and the sound
was quite natural.

Rich:
Suggestions? [I have a decent mic collection & great pres.]

If you have a UM70 you will find that it is a nice choice. Any high
quality mic-pre will give good results with this mic but I've been
using an API3124 lately.

"JimKollens" wrote in message
ups.com...
Rich:
Suggestions? [I have a decent mic collection & great pres.]

If you have a UM70 you will find that it is a nice choice. Any high
quality mic-pre will give good results with this mic but I've been
using an API3124 lately.

Just about anything in the U47-descended family will give good results.

Another mike which will surprise you if you can find one is the
not-very-expensive Alesis/Groove Tubes AM51, a Chinese-sourced LD
solid-state mic that does very nice things on bass. Try it up on the
instrument's shoulder (the one the player isn't standing next to), over the
bridge or in that near-the-right-hand position someone mentioned earlier.

A BLUE Kiwi can also sound nice, but it wants to be about 2' away, which may
cause leakage problems in a combo.

Peace,
Paul

I like the Shure SM-7, but it needs a bit of gain.

wrote:

I have found a pickup that blew me away . A customer brought in a Pick
Up the World mounted on his bass. the sound was fabulous. It appears
to be some form of capacitive pickup rather than piezo and the sound
was quite natural.

It's piezo, but it's a plastic film rather than a brittle ceramic
material. This reduces the problems with weird element resonances a
lot.

There are a few other folks using the AMP piezo films for pickups, and
they are a big step up from the old ceramic designs. Still not as natural
as a mike, though, but a step up.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 06:32:30 GMT, "Paul Stamler"
wrote:

Just about anything in the U47-descended family will give good results.

My latest project, we used a AT4047 It sounded great. Mind you we had
a great player on a great instrument. We also took the time for him to
play in each spot in the room to find the best sound.

In article ,
(Scott Dorsey) wrote:

wrote:

I have found a pickup that blew me away . A customer brought in a Pick
Up the World mounted on his bass. the sound was fabulous. It appears
to be some form of capacitive pickup rather than piezo and the sound
was quite natural.

It's piezo, but it's a plastic film rather than a brittle ceramic
material. This reduces the problems with weird element resonances a
lot.

There are a few other folks using the AMP piezo films for pickups, and
they are a big step up from the old ceramic designs. Still not as natural
as a mike, though, but a step up.
--scott

On a recent project I used both the bassist's pickup and a U48 and it
worked very well. It was a quintet in a fairly small studio, so the mic
had some leakage, and having the pickup to mix in added some definition
and allowed me to get some more gain before the ambient noise from the
mic became problematic. Having the mic, of course, helped it sound more
natural and fuller and you didn't really notice the pickup sound.

--
Jay Frigoletto
Mastersuite
www.promastering.com

"Rich" wrote:

I'd love to hear mic suggestions for an upright in a traditional jazz
combo setting. I've been using a 77DX in figure 8 positioned
carefully just above the player's right hand. But sometimes, I need
a more focused (less wooly) sound. I haven't been particularily
happy with an RE20 or KM84. I may try a Soundelux U-195 next.

Suggestions? [I have a decent mic collection & great pres.]



I was somewhat surprised to decide that upright jazz bass is one
instrument that seems to benefit from the new generation of "top heavy"
mics.

I usually prefer more neutral mics like what you've listed, but for that
application I got happier when I put away my TLM193 and brought out the
KM184. Makes me think an AKG 414 might work well too.

I've never tried a U47 like someone else suggested, but I'd sure like to
sometime. It may be too dark for your taste based on what you wrote,
but I'll bet it would be mucho creamy.

--
"It CAN'T be too loud... some of the red lights aren't even on yet!"
- Lorin David Schultz
in the control room
making even bad news sound good

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In article GVB7e.31100$vt1.1915@edtnps90, "Lorin David Schultz"
wrote:

"Rich" wrote:

I'd love to hear mic suggestions for an upright in a traditional jazz
combo setting. I've been using a 77DX in figure 8 positioned
carefully just above the player's right hand. But sometimes, I need
a more focused (less wooly) sound. I haven't been particularily
happy with an RE20 or KM84. I may try a Soundelux U-195 next.

Suggestions? [I have a decent mic collection & great pres.]

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