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Intelligent Chip and quantum dots, question to the experts ?
The intelligent chip has caused lengthy discussions on Audio Asylum.
The explanation as provided by the manufacturer "moving pits and lands across the CD's surface" seems to be BS, to put it mildly. I'm not familiar with the field of quantum dots, so I had a look and found the following: quantum dots are tiny (2-10 nm) crystals made of semiconductor material having both absorptive and emmissive characteristics, the wavelength of emitted radiation can be tailored by modifying composition, size and geometry of the dot. The dots have electrical, optical and magnetic properties. They appear to need an external stimulus (voltage, heat, light) in order to be operational. The dots emit radiation from 350 nm up to infrared. The stimulating wavelength can be shorter than the dots' rated peak emmission wavelength, which includes infrared, visible light, UV, x-ray and gamma-ray. Quantum dots undergo natural degradation unless they are encapsulated or put into a matrix. If my understanding of the working principles is correct, I'm asking what the external stimulus might be when you place the chip onto the CD player (as compared to when the chip is left its plastic case). The chip is claimed to have a limited number of charges, I could not find any background information on that. The chip is claimed to be able to detect defective pits and lands, it is also claimed to recognize a treated disc. Would this mean that the external stimulus has its origin in the CD itself, that some sort of signal, which must be voltage, heat or light, is coming from the CD when spinning? And that this signal is able to travel through the CD-player's housing ? Klaus |
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"Klaus Rampelmann" wrote in message ...
The intelligent chip has caused lengthy discussions on Audio Asylum. The explanation as provided by the manufacturer "moving pits and lands across the CD's surface" seems to be BS, to put it mildly. I'm not familiar with the field of quantum dots, so I had a look and found the following: quantum dots are tiny (2-10 nm) crystals made of semiconductor material having both absorptive and emmissive characteristics, the wavelength of emitted radiation can be tailored by modifying composition, size and geometry of the dot. The dots have electrical, optical and magnetic properties. They appear to need an external stimulus (voltage, heat, light) in order to be operational. The dots emit radiation from 350 nm up to infrared. The stimulating wavelength can be shorter than the dots' rated peak emmission wavelength, which includes infrared, visible light, UV, x-ray and gamma-ray. Quantum dots undergo natural degradation unless they are encapsulated or put into a matrix. If my understanding of the working principles is correct, I'm asking what the external stimulus might be when you place the chip onto the CD player (as compared to when the chip is left its plastic case). The chip is claimed to have a limited number of charges, I could not find any background information on that. The chip is claimed to be able to detect defective pits and lands, it is also claimed to recognize a treated disc. Would this mean that the external stimulus has its origin in the CD itself, that some sort of signal, which must be voltage, heat or light, is coming from the CD when spinning? And that this signal is able to travel through the CD-player's housing ? Klaus You got it right the first time: It's an incredible load of horse crap. But it's the best laugh I've had today. Thanks. |
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L David Matheny wrote:
"Klaus Rampelmann" wrote in message ... The intelligent chip has caused lengthy discussions on Audio Asylum. The explanation as provided by the manufacturer "moving pits and lands across the CD's surface" seems to be BS, to put it mildly. I'm not familiar with the field of quantum dots, so I had a look and found the following: quantum dots are tiny (2-10 nm) crystals made of semiconductor material having both absorptive and emmissive characteristics, the wavelength of emitted radiation can be tailored by modifying composition, size and geometry of the dot. The dots have electrical, optical and magnetic properties. They appear to need an external stimulus (voltage, heat, light) in order to be operational. The dots emit radiation from 350 nm up to infrared. The stimulating wavelength can be shorter than the dots' rated peak emmission wavelength, which includes infrared, visible light, UV, x-ray and gamma-ray. Quantum dots undergo natural degradation unless they are encapsulated or put into a matrix. If my understanding of the working principles is correct, I'm asking what the external stimulus might be when you place the chip onto the CD player (as compared to when the chip is left its plastic case). The chip is claimed to have a limited number of charges, I could not find any background information on that. The chip is claimed to be able to detect defective pits and lands, it is also claimed to recognize a treated disc. Would this mean that the external stimulus has its origin in the CD itself, that some sort of signal, which must be voltage, heat or light, is coming from the CD when spinning? And that this signal is able to travel through the CD-player's housing ? Klaus You got it right the first time: It's an incredible load of horse crap. But it's the best laugh I've had today. Thanks. Keep Laughing: "Speaking of CDs... What's the sonic improvement? Put it this way: More like analogue. Nor am I the first to remark this. The listener immediately notices a seeming rearrangement of voices, in which each strand becomes clearer, relieved of a haze that masked its individual contribution to the musical texture. Soon thereafter an awareness arrives of each isolated note's magical decay. Thereafter a wonderful likeness to the live instrument engages one's attention. Also a good deal of digital edginess disappears and, as with several other treatments, bass articulation in this highly-touted-flat-bass medium noticeably improves." http://www.positive-feedback.com/Iss...ligentchip.htm WVK |
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WVK wrote:
Keep Laughing: "Speaking of CDs... What's the sonic improvement? Put it this way: More like analogue. Nor am I the first to remark this. The listener immediately notices a seeming rearrangement of voices, in which each strand becomes clearer, relieved of a haze that masked its individual contribution to the musical texture. Soon thereafter an awareness arrives of each isolated note's magical decay. Thereafter a wonderful likeness to the live instrument engages one's attention. Also a good deal of digital edginess disappears and, as with several other treatments, bass articulation in this highly-touted-flat-bass medium noticeably improves." http://www.positive-feedback.com/Iss...ligentchip.htm What a gasbag! One thing to be said for such "innovations" as the Intelligent Chip, however, is that they make it easier to tell who is and is not part of the reality-based community here. I don't think I'd ever trust an amplifier, say, designed by someone who actually thinks this thing works. bob |
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"WVK" wrote in message
... Keep Laughing: "Speaking of C^Ds... What's the sonic improvement? Put it this way: ^More like analogue. Nor am I the first to remark this. The listener immediately notices a seeming rearrangement of voices, in which each strand becomes clearer, relieved of a haze that masked its individual contribution to the musical texture. Soon thereafter an awareness arrives of each isolated note's magical decay. Thereafter a wonderful likeness to the live instrument engages one's attention. Also a good deal of digital edginess disappears and, as with several other treatments, bass articulation in this highly-touted-flat-bass medium noticeably improves." http://www.positive-feedback.com/Iss...ligentchip.htm I read that article and it was indeed entertaining. The chip is simply placed on top of a CD player while it is playing a CD. It is alleged to not only improve the sound but to actually create a *permanent* improvement in the CD, by patching it up somehow. Now this would require capabilities that are outright magical. No mere quantum dot would do. Quantum dots are new technology, but not really new physics. Everything they can do is explained by good old fashioned quantum mechanics, the same thing that makes atoms work. And nothing in quantum mechanics could explain the magical capabilities of the chip. If the claim was merely that the chip improves the sound of CDs while it's in use, I could at least imagine semi-plausible mechanisms of action -- for example, it could contain a battery and a tiny transmitter that adds subliminal amounts of noise to the output of the CD player, which might be interpreted as a warmer, more analog sound, free of digital "harshness". But for it to make a permanent improvement to the CD itself, as claimed, an improvement that stays in place after the chip is gone, it would have to make a change to the bits stored on the CD. If it could do this, it could be easily and objectively verified -- just output the before and after bit streams to a file and do a diff. The fact that no such objective evidence is provided is telling. Now which is easier to believe: 1. Some brilliant inventor discovered a radical new principal in physics, and instead of publishing his results, and then heading straight to Stockholm to pick up his Nobel prize, decided to apply it to that vitally important area of human endeavor, agriculture^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H medicine^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H energy production^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H um, high end audio tweaking. 2. Many audiophiles are predisposed to hear a difference when they make a tweak, and as a result do hear a difference, even when there is no actual change to the sound produced. If you picked (1), then by all means spend your money on foolish tweaks. Somebody has to keep this post dot-com bust economy moving. |
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John P. Green wrote:
I read that article and it was indeed entertaining. The chip is simply placed on top of a CD player while it is playing a CD. If you ask me, it sounds like a high-tech variation of the standard Buffalo Chip. michael |
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John P. Green wrote:
If you picked (1), then by all means spend your money on foolish tweaks. Somebody has to keep this post dot-com bust economy moving. You mean the "post quantum dot-com bust economy", right? |