We've got the exact same ads happening in Halifax except at the end it
says "no radio station understands Led Zeppelin like Halifax's own
Q104." I kind of like the ads actually. They give you a little
history/insight into the bands.

wrote:
Iv'e noticed in recent months that classic rock station identification
spots have become like action movie trailers for Jerry Bruckheimer
movies.Some spots have agressive voice overs to the effect of
describing Led Zeppelin as the second coming....after the toyota spot
ends.....a voice over guy with a deep bass and a ****load of
compression says.."there was a vision by one man to fuse the blues with
sound of metal(insert black dog riff).....fused with drums beaten into
submission(insert when the levee breaks intro)....and a voice of likes
never heard before(screams of robert plant)..and the the voive over
concludes...".no one radio station understands Led Zeppelin better than
95.5 KLOS"...Is this cheese really neccesary?Im totally stunned that I
need to be told this.The dj's are also recently seem a bit overly
excited about what coming up like they got a memo saying be perky about
this as if it was never played before.... or even have pre recorded 2
second samples of such songs as "more than a feeling""sweet home
alabama"who are you" after a pre recorded voice over anounces the title
of the artist....like you've never heard these songs by these artists
before and you need to be reminded what you will be hearing coming up
after the commercial break.Has anyone been bombarded by this ????

You've only just started listening to commercial radio in the last few
months haven't you...

This sort of thing started recently, like around 1965...




On 3/18/05 3:53 AM, in article
,
" wrote:

Iv'e noticed in recent months that classic rock station identification
spots have become like action movie trailers for Jerry Bruckheimer
movies.Some spots have agressive voice overs to the effect of
describing Led Zeppelin as the second coming....after the toyota spot
ends.....a voice over guy with a deep bass and a ****load of
compression says.."there was a vision by one man to fuse the blues with
sound of metal(insert black dog riff).....fused with drums beaten into
submission(insert when the levee breaks intro)....and a voice of likes
never heard before(screams of robert plant)..and the the voive over
concludes...".no one radio station understands Led Zeppelin better than
95.5 KLOS"...Is this cheese really neccesary?Im totally stunned that I
need to be told this.The dj's are also recently seem a bit overly
excited about what coming up like they got a memo saying be perky about
this as if it was never played before.... or even have pre recorded 2
second samples of such songs as "more than a feeling""sweet home
alabama"who are you" after a pre recorded voice over anounces the title
of the artist....like you've never heard these songs by these artists
before and you need to be reminded what you will be hearing coming up
after the commercial break.Has anyone been bombarded by this ????

thats why I love Music Choice

.....and no (dynamic range) compression either

Mark

This must be a Clear Channel thing. 96Rock in Atlanta has the same
crap.

On 18 Mar 2005 08:12:16 -0800, "Mike" wrote:

This must be a Clear Channel thing. 96Rock in Atlanta has the same
crap.

KLOS is ABC/Disney.

In article writes:

You've only just started listening to commercial radio in the last few
months haven't you...

This sort of thing started recently, like around 1965...

I've just started listening to comercial radio - WGMS - since WETA cut
out music. GAWD I HATE THE ADS! It's alost like public radio fund
raising but with more annoying voices and music bumpers. You'd think
that being a classical music station they'd produce (or request) commercials
that don't have hard rock music behind them, but nooooo, and the voices!
There's one that I think is for a phone company that sounds like the classic
drag racing SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY.

They play whole classical pieces, and occasionally have a comerical-free
hour, but when they do commercials, the blocks are 8-9 minutes. And for
things like funeral parlors.

At least at home, I can listen to something respectable over the
Internet. Gotta start thinking about a dashboard-sized computer and
citywide wireless Internet. Or maybe just take a handful of my CDs
with me when I go out.



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cbobbydazzle wrote ...
Iv'e noticed in recent months that classic rock station identification
spots have become like action movie trailers for Jerry Bruckheimer
movies.
....
...Is this cheese really neccesary?Im totally stunned that I
need to be told this.

Maybe you've aged (matured?) and moved out of their prime
demographic? :-)

wrote:
Iv'e noticed in recent months that classic rock station identification
spots have become like action movie trailers for Jerry Bruckheimer
movies.Some spots have agressive voice overs to the effect of
describing Led Zeppelin as the second coming....after the toyota spot
ends.....a voice over guy with a deep bass and a ****load of
compression says.."there was a vision by one man to fuse the blues with
sound of metal(insert black dog riff).....fused with drums beaten into
submission(insert when the levee breaks intro)....and a voice of likes
never heard before(screams of robert plant)..and the the voive over
concludes...".no one radio station understands Led Zeppelin better than
95.5 KLOS"...Is this cheese really neccesary?Im totally stunned that I
need to be told this.The dj's are also recently seem a bit overly
excited about what coming up like they got a memo saying be perky about
this as if it was never played before.... or even have pre recorded 2
second samples of such songs as "more than a feeling""sweet home
alabama"who are you" after a pre recorded voice over anounces the title
of the artist....like you've never heard these songs by these artists
before and you need to be reminded what you will be hearing coming up
after the commercial break.Has anyone been bombarded by this ????


This is part of the reason I really stopped listening to music radio apart from subscription
stations like KUSC, et al.

When I was living in LA (five years) I found the radio traffic to be interesting in its diversity,
but purile in its execution. I just moved out to the Portland, OR area and it really isn't a whole
lot better, but there is a locally owned "classic" rock station that doesn't insult my ears too
much. Well, okay, they play the same old crap and ignore all the really good "also ran" stuff that
was every bit as vital as the once great songs they have since run into the ground and made me
loathe listening to any more. But, then, that's the case with most stations now isn't it, to over
play just about everything they do play...

--fletch

On 18 Mar 2005 13:19:24 -0500, (Mike Rivers)
wrote:

Gotta start thinking about a dashboard-sized computer and
citywide wireless Internet. Or maybe just take a handful of my CDs
with me when I go out.

You sound like the perfect customer for sattelite radio...

Al

On 3/18/05 1:19 PM, in article znr1111158443k@trad, "Mike Rivers"
wrote:


In article writes:

You've only just started listening to commercial radio in the last few
months haven't you...

This sort of thing started recently, like around 1965...

I've just started listening to comercial radio - WGMS - since WETA cut
out music. GAWD I HATE THE ADS!

WBJC
WBJC
WBJC
WBJC...


It's alost like public radio fund
raising but with more annoying voices and music bumpers. You'd think
that being a classical music station they'd produce (or request) commercials
that don't have hard rock music behind them, but nooooo, and the voices!

GMS -used-to be real real good about both being hard on how an ad's
character (both in copy/style/read as well as bed music) fit the station's
personality. That and they had a pretty clean air chain. Last 4 years or so
I've noticed their air sound getting classical-aggressive in processing
(harsh and boomy) as well as as you say airing anything the client tosses to
traffic.Add to this that if you listen at all to WTOP-AM 1500 (and all the
many repeaters they now tout in a station ID) you'll find that they're
sister stations under Bonneville and share voices across reading tasks.


There's one that I think is for a phone company that sounds like the classic
drag racing SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY.

They play whole classical pieces, and occasionally have a comerical-free
hour, but when they do commercials, the blocks are 8-9 minutes. And for
things like funeral parlors.

We're they;re center-of-the-bell-curve market target Mike... I've followed
the station since 1970... And they know it.


At least at home, I can listen to something respectable over the
Internet.

I'm only just getting the hang of this one...


Gotta start thinking about a dashboard-sized computer and
citywide wireless Internet. Or maybe just take a handful of my CDs
with me when I go out.

XM?

On 18 Mar 2005 08:12:16 -0800, "Mike" wrote:

This must be a Clear Channel thing. 96Rock in Atlanta has the same
crap.

I forget who changed first (I wasn't listening that closely
anyway), but Atlanta's 'previous' classic rock station at 92.9 is now
"Dave FM" and plays both new and old stuff. 96 used to play both new
and old stuff, but is now classic rock, and so now plays the same
stuff (more or less) it played after changing from easy-listening (or
whatever it was) to "96 Rock" 31 years ago.

-----
http://mindspring.com/~benbradley

In article writes:

You sound like the perfect customer for sattelite radio...

I had a rental car last year that had one. 128 channels and I didn't
even like the bluegrass one.

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In article writes:

WBJC
WBJC
WBJC
WBJC...

They don't have a good enough signal here. I should probably try it on
my car radio though. That almost picks up WRNR around here but not quite.

GMS -used-to be real real good about both being hard on how an ad's
character (both in copy/style/read as well as bed music) fit the station's
personality. That and they had a pretty clean air chain. Last 4 years or so
I've noticed their air sound getting classical-aggressive in processing
(harsh and boomy) as well as as you say airing anything the client tosses

I listened to the AM station as a kid and through college. I have one
of their original Happy Birthday Beethoven bumper stickers. I guess I
stopped listening to WGMS FM when Spiritous Cheese came on board at
WHFS and I never went back to WGMS until recently, so I missed the
progression (or regression).


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On 18 Mar 2005 21:28:39 -0500, (Mike Rivers)
wrote:


In article writes:

You sound like the perfect customer for sattelite radio...

I had a rental car last year that had one. 128 channels and I didn't
even like the bluegrass one.

You are a tough guy to please... you could always drag around a
walkman or a blaster and play your old cassette tapes.

Al

In article writes:

I had a rental car last year that had one. 128 channels and I didn't
even like the bluegrass one.

You are a tough guy to please... you could always drag around a
walkman or a blaster and play your old cassette tapes.

Actually, on that trip, I had my Jukebox 3 along, and brought the
cassette adapter knowing that I'd be driving for six hours through god
and cow country and didn't expect to find much on the radio. First pee
stop after listening to the Sirius radio (I'm told that XM is better)
I dug out my own "tunes" and listened to that for the rest of the
trip. And in fact, I thought that even going from the radio through
the sound card, conversion to MP3, and played back through an
inductive coupling to a cassette player head, my stuff sounded better.
Less processing than the satellite radio signal. But mostly a more
intelligent choice of music and more intelligent announcing.

And, yes, I AM a hard guy to please, or more accurately, one who turns
the radio off easily.


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On 18 Mar 2005 08:02:09 -0800, "Mark" wrote:

thats why I love Music Choice

....and no (dynamic range) compression either

Mark

Gotta agree with that. Nice range of styles to choose from, and they
play the "b" sides and also-ran tunes.

The local FM 'classic rock' station mentality seems to be that all of
the 'classic artists' only recorded two tunes in their entire careers,
because, it seems, they only play the same two tunes by any given
artist... incessantly.



====================
Tracy Wintermute

Rushcreek Ranch
====================

On 3/19/05 12:38 PM, in article ,
"Tracy Wintermute" wrote:


The local FM 'classic rock' station mentality seems to be that all of
the 'classic artists' only recorded two tunes in their entire careers,
because, it seems, they only play the same two tunes by any given
artist... incessantly.

Not sure what you;re expecting from that sort of thing but it -IS- after all
just Oldies 100. Only Billboard top-sellers-by-single-airplay and THAT as we
all know indeed only understands that -Any- artist made max of 5 records
tops thru their careers... Who else will Clear Channel make a buck?

On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:10:43 GMT, John wrote:

On 3/19/05 12:38 PM, in article ,
"Tracy Wintermute" wrote:

it seems, they only play the same two tunes by any given
artist... incessantly.

Not sure what you;re expecting from that sort of thing but it -IS- after all
just Oldies 100. Only Billboard top-sellers-by-single-airplay and THAT as we
all know indeed only understands that -Any- artist made max of 5 records

Yep, I 'spect you got a point, JV. Makes sense and certainly fits into
the current marketing/programming mindset. However, the promo schtick
they employ _does_ imply otherwise... They don't say "best sellers" or
"top 100 from the past". I mean, stuff like "we understand Zep more
than anyone else" and the like. OK... I guess, these days, that means
"we play three Zep tunes instead of just two". Anyways, point taken.

Who else will Clear Channel make a buck?

Depends upon the doe vs buck limit next hunting season. g


====================
Tracy Wintermute

Rushcreek Ranch
====================

Mike Rivers wrote:

Gotta start thinking about a dashboard-sized computer and
citywide wireless Internet. Or maybe just take a handful of my CDs
with me when I go out.

You can get an indash CD/radio that will play MP3's for under $150 now.
A CD-R with 160-192k MP3s lasts a loooong time.

Or just rig up a jack for your NJB3...

In article writes:

You can get an indash CD/radio that will play MP3's for under $150 now.

Like I'm gonna put it in a rental car? Sure! I have a Lexus ES-300 and
the sensible car audio shops won't touch it. Things are sufficiently
integrated, both mechanically and electrically, that you really can't
install anything aftermarket in there.

Or just rig up a jack for your NJB3...

I use it with the cassette adapter, but once recently I almost got
screwed. The rental car they handed me had a CD player, but no
cassette player. I asked for another car.

I just heard that Hyundai says starting in 2006, it'll put an XM
satellite radio in every one of its cars. Not a special order, not a
luxury option, we're talking standard equipment.


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Mike Rivers wrote:
In article writes:

You can get an indash CD/radio that will play MP3's for under $150 now.


Like I'm gonna put it in a rental car? Sure!


Didn't know this was only about the rentals.


I have a Lexus ES-300 and
the sensible car audio shops won't touch it. Things are sufficiently
integrated, both mechanically and electrically, that you really can't
install anything aftermarket in there.

Do you have a CD changer in it? If not, there are companies making
adapters which will plug into the factory harness and give you a line input.






I just heard that Hyundai says starting in 2006, it'll put an XM
satellite radio in every one of its cars. Not a special order, not a
luxury option, we're talking standard equipment.

I thought you didn't like the music choices on satellite?

In article writes:

Do you have a CD changer in it? If not, there are companies making
adapters which will plug into the factory harness and give you a line input.

Yes, there's a 5 or maybe 6 disk CD changer. I have used it
occasionally, but I don't bother playing CDs on short trips and a full
load isn't enough for a ten hour drive, and the drive home.

I remember when shopping for a car once, saw one, a Mitsubishi
Diamante I think, that had a line inputs jack on the front panel of
the radio. I had a rental Diamante a few years ago (after I saw the
one with the jack) and it didn't have one.

I might ask about installing a jack, but I suspect that the answer
will be no. Do you know someone with a Lexus who has this
modification? If it isn't a plug-in, it's going to be too difficult to
install. Then there's the issue of where to put the jack and how to
mount it. There's so little spare real estate on the dashboard that it
would be hard to find a good place. I looked at getting an add-on CD
changer for my last ES300, one of those that mounts in the trunk and
interfaces through the antenna lead. At the shop, tried the remote
controls for three different systems and couldn't find a place to put
it where it made any sense.

I sure miss my 1949 Plymouth, which had enough room under the
dashboard to build in a barbecue grill.

I thought you didn't like the music choices on satellite?

I didn't like what I heard on Sirius, and I suspect that I wouldn't
bother with XM either, though people tell me that it's better. This is
really a better deal for XM than it is for me. Think of all the people
who will be tempted to subscribe because they already have the
hardware. I doubt that I would.


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Fletch wrote:
wrote:
Iv'e noticed in recent months that classic rock station
identification
spots have become like action movie trailers for Jerry Bruckheimer
movies.Some spots have agressive voice overs to the effect of
describing Led Zeppelin as the second coming....after the toyota
spot
ends.....a voice over guy with a deep bass and a ****load of
compression says.."there was a vision by one man to fuse the blues
with
sound of metal(insert black dog riff).....fused with drums beaten
into
submission(insert when the levee breaks intro)....and a voice of
likes
never heard before(screams of robert plant)..and the the voive over
concludes...".no one radio station understands Led Zeppelin better
than
95.5 KLOS"...Is this cheese really neccesary?Im totally stunned
that I
need to be told this.The dj's are also recently seem a bit overly
excited about what coming up like they got a memo saying be perky
about
this as if it was never played before.... or even have pre recorded
2
second samples of such songs as "more than a feeling""sweet home
alabama"who are you" after a pre recorded voice over anounces the
title
of the artist....like you've never heard these songs by these
artists
before and you need to be reminded what you will be hearing coming
up
after the commercial break.Has anyone been bombarded by this ????


This is part of the reason I really stopped listening to music radio
apart from subscription
stations like KUSC, et al.

When I was living in LA (five years) I found the radio traffic to be
interesting in its diversity,
but purile in its execution. I just moved out to the Portland, OR
area and it really isn't a whole
lot better, but there is a locally owned "classic" rock station that
doesn't insult my ears too
much. Well, okay, they play the same old crap and ignore all the
really good "also ran" stuff that
was every bit as vital as the once great songs they have since run
into the ground and made me
loathe listening to any more. But, then, that's the case with most
stations now isn't it, to over
play just about everything they do play...

--fletch

.....I remember when shopping for a car once, saw one, a Mitsubishi
Diamante I think, that had a line inputs jack on the front panel of
the radio.....................

Hmmm, curious, what kind of jack was it, the standard little stereo
headphone jack? How did you select the input. I've been thinking
about making a mod like this for my car. My guess is to simply wire a
standard little jack across the radio volumne conrol then drive in from
the low Z headphone output of the portable which will "override"
whatever the radio is trying to play.

Mark

Mike Rivers wrote:
In article writes:

Do you have a CD changer in it? If not, there are companies making
adapters which will plug into the factory harness and give you a line input.


Yes, there's a 5 or maybe 6 disk CD changer. I have used it
occasionally, but I don't bother playing CDs on short trips and a full
load isn't enough for a ten hour drive, and the drive home.

Oh well.




I might ask about installing a jack, but I suspect that the answer
will be no. Do you know someone with a Lexus who has this
modification? If it isn't a plug-in, it's going to be too difficult to
install.

The plug-in solution is in lieu of the multi-disc changer.

Mark wrote:

I remember when shopping for a car once, saw one, a Mitsubishi
Diamante I think, that had a line inputs jack on the front panel of
the radio.

Hmmm, curious, what kind of jack was it, the standard little stereo
headphone jack? How did you select the input.

The indash units that have auxiliary jacks have a button to select the
aux input. I've seen one that switched automatically when a plug was
inserted.



I've been thinking
about making a mod like this for my car. My guess is to simply wire a
standard little jack across the radio volumne conrol then drive in from
the low Z headphone output of the portable which will "override"
whatever the radio is trying to play.

If your car has an option for a disc changer, that's the best and
easiest route in.

In article .com writes:


....I remember when shopping for a car once, saw one, a Mitsubishi
Diamante I think, that had a line inputs jack on the front panel of
the radio.....................

Hmmm, curious, what kind of jack was it, the standard little stereo
headphone jack? How did you select the input.

Yeah, a crappy stereo mini jack, and there was a button on the radio
to select it as the input. It was probably too complicated for the
drivers. This was even before cellular phones were very common. But
today, I'd think the iPod generation would really go for something
like this.

I've been thinking
about making a mod like this for my car. My guess is to simply wire a
standard little jack across the radio volumne conrol

Ah, if I could only find the radio volume control (it's a knob
controlling a digital attenuator). In fact, I'm not sure I could even
figure out how to remove the radio from the dashboard. I'm not as
small as I used to be, either. Maybe I need a Mini-me.

then drive in from
the low Z headphone output of the portable which will "override"
whatever the radio is trying to play.

Not a chance. But I suppose you can probably find a place to tune to
where there isn't a radio station.



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In article writes:

The plug-in solution is in lieu of the multi-disc changer.

In my case, the disk changer is thorougly integrated with the
radio/CD/cassette player. But there are amplifiers all over the car,
under the seats, behind the dash, and in the trunk. And this is the
cheap radio. The expensive Mark Levinson model which I decided I
didn't need (mostly because it was required for the GPS, which would
have been too much of a temptation) has even more stuff spread around
the car.


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Mike Rivers wrote:
In article writes:


The plug-in solution is in lieu of the multi-disc changer.


In my case, the disk changer is thorougly integrated with the
radio/CD/cassette player.


The changer plugs into the indash via a 10-18 pin connector (unless it's
one of the newer serial protocol units.) Either way, there are a pair
of line level audio signals in that bundle. You can get adapters (and
even breakout boxes with A/B switches) that will plug into the harness.