Lest anyone doubt that "Tom" (aka, "Surf') was urging people to file
false police reports:

http://tinyurl.com/4gpx6

sent from: 12.252.34.130

Here is post from "Surf" (aka, "Tom") a day later:

http://tinyurl.com/5ywqj

NNTP posting host: 12.252.34.130 (all of Surf/Tom's posts came from
this IP at that time)

When I saw that email, I knew "Tom" was a vile piece of waste matter
and a sleazy, two-faced SOB.

wrote in message
oups.com

Lest anyone doubt that "Tom" (aka, "Surf') was urging people to file
false police reports:

http://tinyurl.com/4gpx6

sent from: 12.252.34.130


Contents of the post at that URL:

begin quote ---------------------------

Fellow Freedom Fighters,

Tomorrow is the day. You should both have the
package. Tomorrow morning each of us:

1) sends the package by email from at least three of
our email accounts.

2) sends a copy of the package by fax to the Grosse
Point PD and the Mich State PD.

3) makes a phone call to each PD claiming to be an
outraged citizen of the Internet demanding that the
Beast be brought to justice for years of abuse and
illegal activities.

This should stir things up quite a bit....enough that
they'll contact Arny, demand access to his computer
and probably want to confiscate it. If there's enough
evidence on the computer, justice will be done. If
not, I think we will have instilled a fear of god into
the beast enough that he will take us seriously from
now on. Regardless, his ego should take some serious
time to recover... if ever.

Jamie, I know school has started for you. I hope you
will have time tomorrow to do your part. Let me know.
I think it's important that this effort is well
coordinated for the result to be maximal.

end quote ---------------------------

Yes, anybody who thinks that there are conspiracies on RAO is obviously
paranoid. ;-)

This particular conspiracy appears to be one that entails the comission of
one or more illegal acts, not to mention the conspiracy itself.

****-for-Brains said:

one or more illegal acts

Humans are allowed by law to kill rodents and mad dogs, so why not ****ty
sociopathic liars like yourself? ;-)

"George M. Middius" wrote:

****-for-Brains said:

one or more illegal acts

Humans are allowed by law to kill rodents and mad dogs, so why not ****ty
sociopathic liars like yourself? ;-)

This is an individual who:

1) Is sick (mentally).

2) Has too much time on his hands.

3) Needs to get out more, or at least get a girlfriend (or
boyfriend).

4) Is aware that tweako audio is in trouble.

Howard Ferstler

Brother Horace the Untrue said:

****-for-Brains said:

one or more illegal acts

Humans are allowed by law to kill rodents and mad dogs, so why not ****ty
sociopathic liars like yourself? ;-)

This is an individual who:

1) Is sick (mentally).

Congratulations, Harold. I had no idea you'd seen the light about Krooger.

2) Has too much time on his hands.

Same as above.

3) Needs to get out more, or at least get a girlfriend (or
boyfriend).

Oh no. Do you have any idea what you're saying? We know what Krooger
fantasizes about, and why the Kroobitch has iced him out. How clueless are
you, anyway?

4) Is aware that tweako audio is in trouble.

Oops, you shorted out. This notion doesn't constitute an "awareness". More
of a fantasy. The first problem is that you've never defined your pet
bugbear, other than arbitrary price limits. Perhaps you should lay out a
formal definition of that scary monster.

The big problem with your fantasy is that high-end audio, or fringe audio,
or carriage-trade audio, etc., has always been a tiny fraction of the
overall consumer audio market. Several people have pointed out that tubed
gear is accounting for an *increasing* share of the market for
electronics. If that's true, it may well be the result of the market
positioning of those boxes: Whereas they used to be a genuine hobby
segment, now they're positioned in the exclusivity segment.

The third problem with your fantasy is that you're deranged. Not as badly
as Krooger, I will note.



So there you go, Clerkie. Two right and two wrong. A massive improvement
on your average. ;-)

"George M. Middius" wrote:

So there you go, Clerkie. Two right and two wrong. A massive improvement
on your average. ;-)

You responded in 29 minutes. Get back to doing your proper
job, slacker. The one your boss pays you to do.

Howard Ferstler

On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 14:28:06 -0500, Howard Ferstler
wrote:

"George M. Middius" wrote:

So there you go, Clerkie. Two right and two wrong. A massive improvement
on your average. ;-)

You responded in 29 minutes. Get back to doing your proper
job, slacker. The one your boss pays you to do.

15 minutes slower than YOUR response to my post. Maybe you should
check to see if The Boss wants you to take out the garbage.

dave weil wrote:

On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 14:28:06 -0500, Howard Ferstler
wrote:

"George M. Middius" wrote:

So there you go, Clerkie. Two right and two wrong. A massive improvement
on your average. ;-)

You responded in 29 minutes. Get back to doing your proper
job, slacker. The one your boss pays you to do.

15 minutes slower than YOUR response to my post. Maybe you should
check to see if The Boss wants you to take out the garbage.

Dave, I am retired. I draw a pension. I have earnings coming
in from stock dividends. I am about to receive SS money.

But, yes, I do take out the garbage and do just about
everything else around the house that involves maintenance
and repair. Plenty of free time for that sort of thing, and
plenty left over for RAO, too.

Oops, got to go feed the cats.

Howard Ferstler

On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 14:47:04 -0500, Howard Ferstler
wrote:

dave weil wrote:

On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 14:28:06 -0500, Howard Ferstler
wrote:

"George M. Middius" wrote:

So there you go, Clerkie. Two right and two wrong. A massive improvement
on your average. ;-)

You responded in 29 minutes. Get back to doing your proper
job, slacker. The one your boss pays you to do.

15 minutes slower than YOUR response to my post. Maybe you should
check to see if The Boss wants you to take out the garbage.

Dave, I am retired. I draw a pension. I have earnings coming
in from stock dividends. I am about to receive SS money.

But, yes, I do take out the garbage and do just about
everything else around the house that involves maintenance
and repair. Plenty of free time for that sort of thing, and
plenty left over for RAO, too.

Oops, got to go feed the cats.

Yes, that WOULD be the highlight of your day.

dave weil said:

Oops, got to go feed the cats.

Yes, that WOULD be the highlight of your day.

Maybe that's Harold's new "job". Around here, pet sitters charge $30 per
day for 2 visits. That includes feeding, grooming, and quality play-time
with feathers and such. Oh, and cleaning out the litterbox, of course.

dave weil said:

Oops, got to go feed the cats.

Yes, that WOULD be the highlight of your day.


Hey, taking care of the cats is a serious business!

At my house, my wife's the boss, but the cats call the shots ;-)

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
...
: dave weil said:
:
: Oops, got to go feed the cats.
:
: Yes, that WOULD be the highlight of your day.
:
:
: Hey, taking care of the cats is a serious business!
:
: At my house, my wife's the boss, but the cats call the shots ;-)
:
: --
: Sander de Waal
: " SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

he, cat serious, dWaal ;-)
Rudy

"Ruud Broens" said:

: Oops, got to go feed the cats.

: Yes, that WOULD be the highlight of your day.

: Hey, taking care of the cats is a serious business!
: At my house, my wife's the boss, but the cats call the shots ;-)

he, cat serious, dWaal ;-)
Rudy


I *am* serious when it concerns cats.

Katz rule, mista pimp Rudy brotha! ;-)

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
...
: "Ruud Broens" said:
:
: : Oops, got to go feed the cats.
:
: : Yes, that WOULD be the highlight of your day.
:
: : Hey, taking care of the cats is a serious business!
: : At my house, my wife's the boss, but the cats call the shots ;-)
:
: he, cat serious, dWaal ;-)
: Rudy
:
:
: I *am* serious when it concerns cats.
:
: Katz rule, mista pimp Rudy brotha! ;-)
:
: --
: Sander de Waal
: " SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

betcha sizzle that to all the cats - r u feedin' m Whizzlecat ?
;-)
Rudy

dave weil a écrit :

Oops, got to go feed the cats.


Yes, that WOULD be the highlight of your day.


Have you watered the plants Dave ?

Richie Malesweski the Dope writes:

When I saw that email, I knew "Tom" was a vile piece of waste matter
and a sleazy, two-faced SOB.

I hate him so much that I'm going to forge a post to the group
claiming to be his wife and begging people to call her. Later I'll
crosspost several posts to real estate groups and try to mess up
his career! I'll get him for you Arny. I just wish I was more than
a bicycle repairman failure and complete flaming coward. Please
destroy this email. I'd certainly never admit to doing the cowardly
things I just described.


Let's see.... I send you that email. You forward it on to Arny.
I wonder if that was our plan all along.......... I wonder if you
were duped and played right into our plan.......... hmmm...
Did any of that stuff actually happen Richie the Dope?

Thanks for bringing this up. It made my day.

dave weil wrote:

15 minutes slower than YOUR response to my post. Maybe you should
check to see if The Boss wants you to take out the garbage.

Dave, I am retired. I draw a pension. I have earnings coming
in from stock dividends. I am about to receive SS money.

But, yes, I do take out the garbage and do just about
everything else around the house that involves maintenance
and repair. Plenty of free time for that sort of thing, and
plenty left over for RAO, too.

Oops, got to go feed the cats.

Yes, that WOULD be the highlight of your day.

Actually, yes. We are a pretty down-to-earth operation
around here.

Howard Ferstler

Sander deWaal wrote:

dave weil said:

Oops, got to go feed the cats.

Yes, that WOULD be the highlight of your day.

Hey, taking care of the cats is a serious business!

At my house, my wife's the boss, but the cats call the shots ;-)

Exactly the same situation at my place.

Howard Ferstler

Tommy Troll wrote:




Let's see.... I send you that email. You forward it on to Arny.
I wonder if that was our plan all along..........


Didn't you _deny_ sending such an email several times? In fact, as
recently as yesterday, as evidenced he


http://tinyurl.com/5ttkx



What a piece of crap you are, Albertz.

Richie continues to display his stupidity:

Didn't you _deny_ sending such an email several times? In fact, as
recently as yesterday, as evidenced he

You don't get it, do you? You're not a genius, are you?

Why did I send you the email? Huh?
Do you think I was trying to recruit you?
Do you think I sent it to you by accident ?
Do you think there was really a "package"?
Do you think there was really a conspiracy?
Was I really recommending that you "do the same"?

I didn't _deny_ sending you the email Richie.
Here - read it again.

And, when Marc reported me to my local police as a pedophile and
TomYutz recommended that others do the same.......

another lie. prove I recommended this.

What am I _denying_ Rich?

Why did I send you the email?
Are you starting to get it?
Were you duped?

On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 21:54:26 +0100, Sander deWaal
wrote:

dave weil said:

Oops, got to go feed the cats.

Yes, that WOULD be the highlight of your day.


Hey, taking care of the cats is a serious business!

At my house, my wife's the boss, but the cats call the shots ;-)

My cat is a self-contained, low-maintenance sort of creature. I don't
have to "go feed him". I basically occasionally refill the dish with
dry food and he's quite happy with that and the occasional field mouse
(he's an indoor/outdoor kinda guy).

Of course, the downside to that is that he tends to be rather aloof,
which is OK with me. He takes affection on his own terms and doesn't
deign to come when called unless HE wills it.

On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 22:40:51 +0100, Lionel
wrote:

dave weil a écrit :

Oops, got to go feed the cats.


Yes, that WOULD be the highlight of your day.


Have you watered the plants Dave ?

Not today. They didn't need it.

And the 30 some roses haven't quite waken up yet, so it's not time for
THEIR domination of my time yet. But soon it will be time for alfalfa
meal, Epson salts, compost and fertilizer.

Oh yeah, lots of spraying...

On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 21:16:10 -0500, Howard Ferstler
wrote:

dave weil wrote:

15 minutes slower than YOUR response to my post. Maybe you should
check to see if The Boss wants you to take out the garbage.

Dave, I am retired. I draw a pension. I have earnings coming
in from stock dividends. I am about to receive SS money.

But, yes, I do take out the garbage and do just about
everything else around the house that involves maintenance
and repair. Plenty of free time for that sort of thing, and
plenty left over for RAO, too.

Oops, got to go feed the cats.

Yes, that WOULD be the highlight of your day.

Actually, yes. We are a pretty down-to-earth operation
around here.

Well, that says it all. I'd suggest that YOU get a life.

"Tom" wrote in message


Why did I send you the email?
Are you starting to get it?
Were you duped?

Thanks Tom for admitting that you are a liar.

dave weil said:

Of course, the downside to that is that he tends to be rather aloof,
which is OK with me. He takes affection on his own terms and doesn't
deign to come when called unless HE wills it.


That goes without saying.
If your cat would behave any different, it'd be a dog.

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
...
: dave weil said:
:
: Of course, the downside to that is that he tends to be rather aloof,
: which is OK with me. He takes affection on his own terms and doesn't
: deign to come when called unless HE wills it.
:
:
: That goes without saying.
: If your cat would behave any different, it'd be a dog.
:
: --
: Sander de Waal
: " SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

Now where is Dormer when ya need 'm ? ;-)
Rudy

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Tom" wrote in message


Why did I send you the email?
Are you starting to get it?
Were you duped?

Thanks Tom for admitting that you are a liar.


Notice that he denied the email until faced with absolute proof that it
traced back to him. Then he goes into an "I duped you" routine,
reminescent of the "who duped who" catfight he got into with "Jamie
Bencimol" a few years ago. What a piece of work!


Oh yeah - I sure was duped! The first thing I did when I saw that email
was check the IP address. Guess where that led? ;-)

The next thing I did was post it on RAO. Just like I had previously
posted the "RAO games and strategies" email "Tom" had sent me awhile
earlier.


Let's watch "Tom" hiss, spit and spin! :-)

Sander deWaal said:

Of course, the downside to that is that he tends to be rather aloof,
which is OK with me. He takes affection on his own terms and doesn't
deign to come when called unless HE wills it.

That goes without saying.
If your cat would behave any different, it'd be a dog.

Don't be so quick to generalize. Aloofness varies by the individual
kittycat. One of mine is aloof, but the other one is almost doglike in some
ways.

"dave weil" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 21:54:26 +0100, Sander deWaal
wrote:

dave weil said:

Oops, got to go feed the cats.

Yes, that WOULD be the highlight of your day.


Hey, taking care of the cats is a serious business!

At my house, my wife's the boss, but the cats call the shots ;-)

My cat is a self-contained, low-maintenance sort of creature. I don't
have to "go feed him". I basically occasionally refill the dish with
dry food and he's quite happy with that and the occasional field mouse
(he's an indoor/outdoor kinda guy).

Of course, the downside to that is that he tends to be rather aloof,
which is OK with me. He takes affection on his own terms and doesn't
deign to come when called unless HE wills it.

At my house, the cat (Not Mine) serves at my sufferance. If she ****es me
off, out the door she goes. She is very low maintenance, though. she
better be! I don't even have to clean the box, I have a volunteer do that.
If I feel like it, I'll feed her some food in the morning. After all, she's
Not Mine.
What do I care?



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Notice that he denied the email....

I never denied the email.

god!!!..........IDIOT!!!!
napolean dynamite reference for the nerds


Then he goes into an "I duped you" routine....

What was the purpose of the email, Richie?
You can't answer this. You'll run away from
this again.


Let's watch...........

Who? You and Arny? Does Arny have a neat ponytail too?

LOL

!!!!@#$%!!!! !EnJOy! !!!&^%$#@!!!

"Tom" wrote

What was the purpose of the email, Richie?
You can't answer this. You'll run away from
this again.

Let's watch...........


Yes - let's watch. Nothing so far.

Richie - more questions. How come the email to you was dated
9/3/02 and the one Arny posted on the Internet was dated 10/3/02?
What was he doing for a month? Did you forward it to Arny to
help him out?

George M. Middius said:

Of course, the downside to that is that he tends to be rather aloof,
which is OK with me. He takes affection on his own terms and doesn't
deign to come when called unless HE wills it.

That goes without saying.
If your cat would behave any different, it'd be a dog.

Don't be so quick to generalize. Aloofness varies by the individual
kittycat. One of mine is aloof, but the other one is almost doglike in some
ways.


Of course, each cat is an individual.
However, what Dave wrote is true: when a cat doesn't want to do
something, you can't do anything about that.

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 17:15:57 +0000, Paul Dormer
wrote:

"Sander deWaal" emitted :

Of course, the downside to that is that he tends to be rather aloof,
which is OK with me. He takes affection on his own terms and doesn't
deign to come when called unless HE wills it.

That goes without saying.
If your cat would behave any different, it'd be a dog.

My cat comes over when called. Dines with us, too.

Does it do the dishes though?

dave weil said:

My cat comes over when called. Dines with us, too.

Does it do the dishes though?

One of mine does the dishes. Sometimes. When he wants to. Probably not to
an acceptable standard of cleanliness for humans though.

On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 12:54:19 -0500, George M. Middius
wrote:



dave weil said:

My cat comes over when called. Dines with us, too.

Does it do the dishes though?

One of mine does the dishes. Sometimes. When he wants to. Probably not to
an acceptable standard of cleanliness for humans though.

I didn't say, "Do the genitalia", you know.

My cat is a strictly a dry cat food dude only. By design.

dave weil said:

Does it do the dishes though?

One of mine does the dishes. Sometimes. When he wants to. Probably not to
an acceptable standard of cleanliness for humans though.

I didn't say, "Do the genitalia", you know.

Same difference.

My cat is a strictly a dry cat food dude only. By design.

May Bast protect him from FUS.

dave weil wrote:

On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 21:16:10 -0500, Howard Ferstler
wrote:

Actually, yes. We are a pretty down-to-earth operation
around here.

Well, that says it all. I'd suggest that YOU get a life.

I like you too, Dave.

Howard Ferstler

Yes...dave certainly saved your plagiarism from becoming published,
which probably would have ended your writing career. You owe him a
lot.

Boon

"Tom" wrote in message
ups.com
Notice that he denied the email....

I never denied the email.

god!!!..........IDIOT!!!!
napolean dynamite reference for the nerds


Then he goes into an "I duped you" routine....

What was the purpose of the email, Richie?
You can't answer this. You'll run away from
this again.

What's to run away from?

Either the letter was true, in which case the author is acting
reprehensibly, or its a bad joke and a lie, in which case the author is
acting reprehensibly.

Let's watch...........

Who? You and Arny? Does Arny have a neat ponytail too?

Actually my hair has been known to get long around the neckline at times,
but I've never tied it up into a true ponytail. I have other friends who
have ponytails - what's your point?

"Arny Krueger" wrote

Either the letter was true, in which case the author is acting
reprehensibly, or its a bad joke and a lie, in which case the author is
acting reprehensibly.

The letter was not true, Arny. You know that.

I sent it to bonniebugs (Richie) wanting him to think
it was intended for booniebug (Marc). I don't know
what he thought, but he forwarded it to you. That was
the hope. I suppose you could say it was a bad joke
and a lie. We laughed. I don't think too many folks
would agree it was reprehensible. It was just a dupe.
Richie was the dupe. He was duped. The funny thing
is - neither you nor Richie would ever admit to being
duped, wrong or lying.