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No one ever said High End audio was rational. It's obsessive
compulsive behavior!

Thanks Cal for admitting that in your view, high end audio and its
advocates, as well as the magazines devoted to it are nuts.


It's a relatively harmless outlet for OCD, as opposed to some
others.

Yeah, when Marc Phillips stalked my house and was hanging out around
town,
looking for me with a rifle - that was relatively harmless. When Scott
Wheeler sued me in California Superior Court, that was relatively
harmless,
too. And, when Marc reported me to my local police as a pedophile and
Tom
Yutz recommended that others do the same, that was just harmless fun.


Well, you're right Cal, both Scott Wheeler and Marc Philips turned out
to be
total and complete putz's, and it all came to nothing. yes, they're
represenative fo the relatively harmless nature of HighEnd Audio.


Mid-fi is more rational which is why it sells
more- a reasonable approximation at a reasonable price. You buy it,
hook it up, it sounds okay. Not super great, okay.

In many cases nobody, not even the review staff of Sterephile it seems,
can
hear the difference. So what about that, Cal?


The same with a hobbyist owning Snap-On wrenches,

Huh? Can't a person do useful work with Snap-On wrenches?


or HP/Agilent or Tek test equipment,

I resemble that - and it get some useful work with it, as well.


or a Hasselblad camera...no, you don't need it. That's the point.

Tell the astranauts - they didn't need that Hasselblad at all.


About any old speakers hooked to about any old amplifier in about

any room will sound about okay, to the average person on the street.

Really?


If you have a little money and tme and want the sound to be more
realistic, more, well, more...and you like well made things for their

own sake...high end audio might be a good hobby.

Maybe. Sometimes you get what you pay for. Sometimes you don't. With an
iffy
situation like this, why rely on a magazine that is basically a joke
book?


Maybe you have money
and no time, just call the high end saloon on lunch break-even dope
defense lawyers and brain surgeons have to eat-and have them deliver
what they think is best.

Good advice for people with more money than sense. I'd guess this would
be
part of the natural high end ragazine marketplace as well.


Have some time and curiosity and energy and
not so much cash? Building your own speakers and amps has to beat
watching stupid TV shows.

Other than building subwoofers, this is probably as bad advice as any.


Nothing in the world like flipping the
switch and watching filaments light up...even in 2005.

Now Cal's advice is as big of a joke as those high end ragazines and
web
site. ))

Personally Arny, if I had some idiot after me with a rifle over some
audio bull****, I'd give up on Usenet. It's a goddamned hobby. Unlike
building an airplane or even a boat, it isn't going to crash or sink.
This is not worth killing someone or even beating them up.

You really must have been an engineer. You do come off provocational
sometimes. Probably I do too, but I have several safety valves. I'm not
saying anything you did justifies someone going out there with
firearms, but you just can't call people idiots and cretins. Especially
if they are. Not if they can look you up and **** with you.

Why don't you channel your obvious intelligence and determination into
something besides holding up a picket sign in front of Harry Winston's
saying cubic zirconia is better? Who gives a **** if people want to buy
stuff that costs too much?

Arny wrote:

And, when Marc reported me to my local police as a pedophile and
TomYutz recommended that others do the same.......


another lie. prove I recommended this.

I didn't think so, liar. you gotta quit listening to Richie the failure.

thanks for that nickname, G.

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Personally Arny, if I had some idiot after me with a rifle over some
audio bull****, I'd give up on Usenet. It's a goddamned hobby. Unlike
building an airplane or even a boat, it isn't going to crash or sink.
This is not worth killing someone or even beating them up.

You really must have been an engineer. You do come off provocational
sometimes. Probably I do too, but I have several safety valves. I'm not
saying anything you did justifies someone going out there with
firearms, but you just can't call people idiots and cretins. Especially
if they are. Not if they can look you up and **** with you.

Why don't you channel your obvious intelligence and determination into
something besides holding up a picket sign in front of Harry Winston's
saying cubic zirconia is better? Who gives a **** if people want to buy
stuff that costs too much?


Arny is a liar. Nobody stalked him with a firearm.
You weren't here then, but Arny was also lying
when he claimed that someone from RAO sent him kiddie
porn by email.



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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message


Arny is a liar. Nobody stalked him with a firearm.

Here is one of the relevant threads:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...e77637851d5dd1

You weren't here then, but Arny was also lying
when he claimed that someone from RAO sent him kiddie
porn by email.

It was a case of mistaken identity. A MSP experts who saw the email and the
pix told me that it was most likely porn of adults, presented as if it was
children.

Tom said:

And, when Marc reported me to my local police as a pedophile and
TomYutz recommended that others do the same.......

another lie. prove I recommended this.
I didn't think so, liar. you gotta quit listening to Richie the failure.
thanks for that nickname, G.

At the time, you were a full-blown Kroopologist. That was my way of
recognizing your contribution to RAO.

Repeat after me: "Arnii the Kroo****. Arnii the Kroo****. Arnii the
Kroo****." Got that, Tom? ;-)

BTW, Krooger's klaim that "local police" were involved in investigating
his pedophilia is a transparent lie, as was his nonsensical blithering
about an "undercover" cop examining his nonexistent photos of infant-adult
androgynes being molested/mutilated. As has been demonstrated amply over
the years, Krooger is a compulsive liar, and everybody knows it. Even the
few lame-os who won't admit it.

"George M. Middius" wrote

;-)

is that some kind of secret handshake?



BTW, Krooger's klaim that "local police" were involved in investigating
his pedophilia is a transparent lie, as was his nonsensical blithering
about an "undercover" cop examining his nonexistent photos of infant-adult
androgynes being molested/mutilated.

i know. his proof is that he said so. just like Richie the Hippy's proof
that i urged him to participate. no proof other than their good word.
then when they do despicable stuff, their only aliby is "you can't prove
it was me."

isn't it also interesting that they both seem to have a ready supply of
sick porn material at the ready. hmmm..... there are a lot of
similarities
with those two boys. will arny have a ponytail when he attends
the debate? will Richie avoid the camera this time when he accepts
the "Dark Star" award for his bicycle repairman abilities?

Tom said:

isn't it also interesting that they both seem to have a ready supply of
sick porn material at the ready. hmmm..... there are a lot of
similarities with those two boys. will arny have a ponytail when he attends
the debate?

If Krooger shows up in New York, batten down the hatches. It's a good bet
the Apocalypse is upon us. ;-) == extra smarmy, just for you, Tom.


will Richie avoid the camera this time when he accepts
the "Dark Star" award for his bicycle repairman abilities?

I hope anybody who engages Thing for bicycle repairs takes note of the
Bill Winkis affair. In case anybody's forgotten, Dickie ripped off Winkis
by accepting money in advance for a drawing, then not delivering the
goods. At the time, he was living in Massachusetts. However, like Krooger,
the cops got after him. Dickie beat it out of town and went crawling back
to his daddy's place in the sticks.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message


Arny is a liar. Nobody stalked him with a firearm.

Here is one of the relevant threads:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...e77637851d5dd1

You weren't here then, but Arny was also lying
when he claimed that someone from RAO sent him kiddie
porn by email.

It was a case of mistaken identity. A MSP experts who saw the email and
the
pix told me that it was most likely porn of adults, presented as if it was
children.



That's only part of the lie.
You never received such email, kiddie or adult.



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Clyde Slick wrote:
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message


Arny is a liar. Nobody stalked him with a firearm.

Here is one of the relevant threads:


http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...e77637851d5dd1

You weren't here then, but Arny was also lying
when he claimed that someone from RAO sent him kiddie
porn by email.

It was a case of mistaken identity. A MSP experts who saw the email
and
the
pix told me that it was most likely porn of adults, presented as if
it was
children.



That's only part of the lie.
You never received such email, kiddie or adult.




Got any *evidence*(not the rantings of "Leon North")to support this
statement, Art? Or is it just more speculation from the Middius Clique?

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Clyde Slick wrote:
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message


Arny is a liar. Nobody stalked him with a firearm.

Here is one of the relevant threads:


http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...e77637851d5dd1

You weren't here then, but Arny was also lying
when he claimed that someone from RAO sent him kiddie
porn by email.

It was a case of mistaken identity. A MSP experts who saw the email
and
the
pix told me that it was most likely porn of adults, presented as if
it was
children.



That's only part of the lie.
You never received such email, kiddie or adult.




Got any *evidence*(not the rantings of "Leon North")to support this
statement, Art? Or is it just more speculation from the Middius Clique?


Its been posted here many times, originally
by Arny, himself.
The supposed emails Arnyt presented had bogus, forged headers.



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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message

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Clyde Slick wrote:
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message


Arny is a liar. Nobody stalked him with a firearm.

Here is one of the relevant threads:



http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...e77637851d5dd1

You weren't here then, but Arny was also lying
when he claimed that someone from RAO sent him kiddie
porn by email.

It was a case of mistaken identity. A MSP expert who saw the email and
the pix told me that it was most likely porn of adults, presented as
if it was
children.

That's only part of the lie.

Prove that its a lie.

You never received such email, kiddie or adult.

Prove it. Delusions of omniscience noted.

Got any *evidence*(not the rantings of "Leon North")to support this
statement, Art? Or is it just more speculation from the Middius
Clique?

Leon's claims fell apart under scrutiny.

Its been posted here many times, originally by Arny, himself.

The supposed emails Arny presented had bogus, forged headers.

I believe that is true in a sense - the headers were apparently munged to
protect the identity of the sender.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message

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Clyde Slick wrote:
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Clyde Slick" wrote in message


Arny is a liar. Nobody stalked him with a firearm.

Here is one of the relevant threads:



http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...e77637851d5dd1

You weren't here then, but Arny was also lying
when he claimed that someone from RAO sent him kiddie
porn by email.

It was a case of mistaken identity. A MSP expert who saw the email and
the pix told me that it was most likely porn of adults, presented as
if it was
children.

That's only part of the lie.

Prove that its a lie.

You never received such email, kiddie or adult.

Prove it. Delusions of omniscience noted.

Got any *evidence*(not the rantings of "Leon North")to support this
statement, Art? Or is it just more speculation from the Middius
Clique?

Leon's claims fell apart under scrutiny.

Its been posted here many times, originally by Arny, himself.

The supposed emails Arny presented had bogus, forged headers.

I believe that is true in a sense - the headers were apparently munged to
protect the identity of the sender.



It has been shown that the headers provided by Arny, as belonging
to the supposed emails, could not be real. ARny could not have
received an email so sonstrccucted.



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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message

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Clyde Slick wrote:
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Clyde Slick" wrote in message


Arny is a liar. Nobody stalked him with a firearm.

Here is one of the relevant threads:



http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...e77637851d5dd1

You weren't here then, but Arny was also lying
when he claimed that someone from RAO sent him kiddie
porn by email.

It was a case of mistaken identity. A MSP expert who saw the email
and
the pix told me that it was most likely porn of adults, presented as
if it was
children.

That's only part of the lie.

Prove that its a lie.

You never received such email, kiddie or adult.

Prove it. Delusions of omniscience noted.

Got any *evidence*(not the rantings of "Leon North")to support this
statement, Art? Or is it just more speculation from the Middius
Clique?

Leon's claims fell apart under scrutiny.

Its been posted here many times, originally by Arny, himself.

The supposed emails Arny presented had bogus, forged headers.

I believe that is true in a sense - the headers were apparently munged to
protect the identity of the sender.



It has been shown that the headers provided by Arny, as belonging
to the supposed emails, could not be real. ARny could not have
received an email so sonstrccucted.

hmmm, "constructed".



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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Clyde Slick" wrote in message

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Clyde Slick wrote:
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Clyde Slick" wrote in message


Arny is a liar. Nobody stalked him with a firearm.

Here is one of the relevant threads:




http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...e77637851d5dd1

You weren't here then, but Arny was also lying
when he claimed that someone from RAO sent him kiddie
porn by email.

It was a case of mistaken identity. A MSP expert who saw the
email and the pix told me that it was most likely porn of
adults, presented as
if it was
children.

That's only part of the lie.

Prove that its a lie.

You never received such email, kiddie or adult.

Prove it. Delusions of omniscience noted.

Got any *evidence*(not the rantings of "Leon North")to support this
statement, Art? Or is it just more speculation from the Middius
Clique?

Leon's claims fell apart under scrutiny.

Its been posted here many times, originally by Arny, himself.

The supposed emails Arny presented had bogus, forged headers.

I believe that is true in a sense - the headers were apparently
munged to protect the identity of the sender.

It has been shown that the headers provided by Arny, as belonging
to the supposed emails, could not be real.

Agreed that the bogus email's headers were falsifed to conceal their true
origin.

Arny could not have received an email so constructed.

Delusions of omnisicence noted.

Tom wrote:
Arny wrote:

And, when Marc reported me to my local police as a pedophile and
TomYutz recommended that others do the same.......


another lie. prove I recommended this.



Gladly:


http://tinyurl.com/6y7hk


Time for a new lie, scumball.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Clyde Slick" wrote in message

wrote in message
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Clyde Slick wrote:
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Clyde Slick" wrote in message


Arny is a liar. Nobody stalked him with a firearm.

Here is one of the relevant threads:




http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...e77637851d5dd1

You weren't here then, but Arny was also lying
when he claimed that someone from RAO sent him kiddie
porn by email.

It was a case of mistaken identity. A MSP expert who saw the
email and the pix told me that it was most likely porn of
adults, presented as
if it was
children.

That's only part of the lie.

Prove that its a lie.

You never received such email, kiddie or adult.

Prove it. Delusions of omniscience noted.

Got any *evidence*(not the rantings of "Leon North")to support this
statement, Art? Or is it just more speculation from the Middius
Clique?

Leon's claims fell apart under scrutiny.

Its been posted here many times, originally by Arny, himself.

The supposed emails Arny presented had bogus, forged headers.

I believe that is true in a sense - the headers were apparently
munged to protect the identity of the sender.

It has been shown that the headers provided by Arny, as belonging
to the supposed emails, could not be real.

Agreed that the bogus email's headers were falsifed to conceal their true
origin.

Arny could not have received an email so constructed.

Delusions of omnisicence noted.



Falsified by you.



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Richie Malesweski, Ozark Bicycle Service, Rogers, Arkansas wrote:

Time for a new lie, scumball.


I don't blame you for being ****ed, Richie.
You were duped. That had to hurt.
Apparently it still does.
But cheer up - Lisa thinks you're a STAR!!!!

Gonna ride in the chase vehicle again this year, stud?

"Tom" wrote in message


Richie Malesweski, Ozark Bicycle Service, Rogers, Arkansas wrote:

Time for a new lie, scumball.


I don't blame you for being ****ed, Richie.
You were duped. That had to hurt.

Thanks for admitting that you're a liar and proud of it, Tom.

The Big **** said:

Thanks for admitting

Why do you feel the need to fight other people's battles for them, Arnii?

Arny Krueger wrote:
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Richie Malesweski, Ozark Bicycle Service, Rogers, Arkansas wrote:

Time for a new lie, scumball.


I don't blame you for being ****ed, Richie.
You were duped. That had to hurt.

Thanks for admitting that you're a liar and proud of it, Tom.

You're welcome. However, how proud can I be for duping an old hippie?
Not that difficult. Have you admitted to your lying yet?

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Richie Malesweski, Ozark Bicycle Service, Rogers, Arkansas wrote:

Time for a new lie, scumball.


I don't blame you for being ****ed, Richie.
You were duped. That had to hurt.

Thanks for admitting that you're a liar and proud of it, Tom.

You're welcome. However, how proud can I be for duping an old hippie?

Good question, but you seem to be doing just that, Tom.

Not that difficult. Have you admitted to your lying yet?

What lie might that be Yom, and how can a proud liar like you be trusted to
tell it like it is?

"Arny Krueger" wrote

However, how proud can I be for duping an old hippie?

Good question, but you seem to be doing just that, Tom.

Just a little proud.


Have you admitted to your lying yet?

What lie might that be Tom?

The lie you told when you said I called your wife "Kroobitch".
Remember?

"Tom" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote

However, how proud can I be for duping an old hippie?

Good question, but you seem to be doing just that, Tom.

Just a little proud.


Have you admitted to your lying yet?

What lie might that be Tom?

The lie you told when you said I called your wife "Kroobitch".
Remember?

Look up the definition of lie, Tom. Get back when you actually comprehend
it.

Arny Krueger wrote:

"Tom" wrote

Have you admitted to your lying yet?

What lie might that be Tom?

The lie you told when you said I called your wife "Kroobitch".
Remember?

Look up the definition of lie, Tom. Get back when you
actually comprehend it.

Are you saying you did a quick Google search, found 3
posts from me which contained "Kroobitch", but never
read them? Are you saying you casually, irresponsibly,
carelessly libelled me? That's reprehensible!
Are you saying you made a mistake????????

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Arny Krueger wrote:

"Tom" wrote

Have you admitted to your lying yet?

What lie might that be Tom?

The lie you told when you said I called your wife "Kroobitch".
Remember?

Look up the definition of lie, Tom. Get back when you
actually comprehend it.

Are you saying you did a quick Google search, found 3
posts from me which contained "Kroobitch", but never
read them? Are you saying you casually, irresponsibly,
carelessly libelled me? That's reprehensible!
Are you saying you made a mistake????????

No Tom, it was a joke and you've fallen for it again and again.