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Arny Krueger
 
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There's a story going around that Stereophile pseudonomous author Sam Tellig
once wrote and article recommending that readers treat their CDs with
Armor-All as a tweak. Supposedly, the actual results of the treatment was
damaging.

Can anyone confirm or deny this story?


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Arny Krueger wrote:
There's a story going around that Stereophile pseudonomous author
Sam Tellig once wrote [an] article recommending that readers treat
their CDs with Armor-All as a tweak.


That is correct, in the early 1990s.

Supposedly, the actual results of the treatment was damaging.


When there was damage, it appeared to emante from the scratches
accidentally introduced by too rough a treatment. These scratches
can be polished out.

In 1991 I treated one of identiucal pairs of CDs with ArmorAll.
Every couple of years I get the treated discs out to see if they
still play. They do.

I am also investigating the incidence of c!/C2 errors compared
with the untreated CDs for an article to appear in a future issue
of Stereophile.

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile



John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

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John "Unctuous" Atkinson wrote:



emante

and

identiucal


A lot of typos in your posts lately, Slick. Get a spell checker (or an
editor). ;-)

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"Lionel" wrote in message
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a écrit :
John "Unctuous" Atkinson wrote:



emante


and

identiucal



A lot of typos in your posts lately, Slick. Get a spell checker (or an
editor). ;-)


YOu should propose him to get a brain first. :-(


If 'YOu' had half a brain, 'You' would have half a brain.



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Clyde Slick a écrit :
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a écrit :

John "Unctuous" Atkinson wrote:


emante


and


identiucal



A lot of typos in your posts lately, Slick. Get a spell checker (or an
editor). ;-)


YOu should propose him to get a brain first. :-(



If 'YOu' had half a brain, 'You' would have half a brain.


Why haven't you given any answer to my proposal stupid
*coward* asshole ?
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"Lionel" wrote

YOu should propose him to get a brain first. :-(


Why are you insulting the man?


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Tom said to Lionella:

Why are you insulting the man?


Because Slut is afraid of Krooger.




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Tom a écrit :
"Lionel" wrote

YOu should propose him to get a brain first. :-(



Why are you insulting the man?


Why ? Just because Sackman is detestable.
He is a kind of fascist pitiful coward. Hereafter an excerpt
of our last exchange :

-------------------------------------------------------------

He said :

"I'm not even a Francophobe, because I'm not really scared
of your ilk, just annoyed and disgusted by them."


I answered :

I understand and I share your point of view.
In fact Hitler wasn't really anti-semitic you know, he was
just "annoyed" and "disgusted" by Jewish people...

-------------------------------------------------------------

Just to give you an idea of the respectability of his point
of views.
Between you and me compared to Sackman's statements, what
you/they call the "Krueger's audio heresies" are childish
arguments. :-(
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"John Atkinson" wrote in message
ps.com...

Arny Krueger wrote:
There's a story going around that Stereophile pseudonomous author
Sam Tellig once wrote [an] article recommending that readers treat
their CDs with Armor-All as a tweak.


That is correct, in the early 1990s.

Supposedly, the actual results of the treatment was damaging.


When there was damage, it appeared to emante from the scratches
accidentally introduced by too rough a treatment. These scratches
can be polished out.

In 1991 I treated one of identiucal pairs of CDs with ArmorAll.
Every couple of years I get the treated discs out to see if they
still play. They do.

I am also investigating the incidence of c!/C2 errors compared
with the untreated CDs for an article to appear in a future issue
of Stereophile.

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile



John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

Bob Morein
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Arny Krueger wrote:
There's a story going around that Stereophile pseudonomous author
Sam Tellig once wrote [an] article recommending that readers treat
their CDs with Armor-All as a tweak.


Atkinson wrote:
That is correct, in the early 1990s.


Supposedly, the actual results of the treatment was damaging.



When there was damage, it appeared to emante from the scratches
accidentally introduced by too rough a treatment. These scratches
can be polished out.

In 1991 I treated one of identiucal pairs of CDs with ArmorAll.
Every couple of years I get the treated discs out to see if they
still play. They do.


I am also investigating the incidence of c!/C2 errors compared
with the untreated CDs for an article to appear in a future issue
of Stereophile.


John Atkinson


SO I WONDER

Why you can't muster up that much energy to see why anybody recomending
Shakti Stones is probably into substance abuse.

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John Atkinson wrote:

Arny Krueger wrote:


There's a story going around that Stereophile pseudonomous author
Sam Tellig once wrote [an] article recommending that readers treat
their CDs with Armor-All as a tweak.


That is correct, in the early 1990s.

Supposedly, the actual results of the treatment was damaging.


When there was damage, it appeared to emante from the scratches
accidentally introduced by too rough a treatment. These scratches
can be polished out.

In 1991 I treated one of identiucal pairs of CDs with ArmorAll.
Every couple of years I get the treated discs out to see if they
still play. They do.

I am also investigating the incidence of c!/C2 errors compared
with the untreated CDs for an article to appear in a future issue
of Stereophile.


How could anyone with an IQ above 85 be suckered into
coating their CD recordings with Armor All? At best it would
do nothing bad or good (although fooling with it would eat
up a lot of time doing the applying) and at worst it could
damage the discs.

Apparently, in some cases it did just that. I believe that
Tellig did a follow-up column later on that explained how to
remove Armor All.

What a joke.

Howard Ferstler
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MINe 109
 
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In article ,
Howard Ferstler wrote:

John Atkinson wrote:

Arny Krueger wrote:


There's a story going around that Stereophile pseudonomous author
Sam Tellig once wrote [an] article recommending that readers treat
their CDs with Armor-All as a tweak.


That is correct, in the early 1990s.

Supposedly, the actual results of the treatment was damaging.


When there was damage, it appeared to emante from the scratches
accidentally introduced by too rough a treatment. These scratches
can be polished out.

In 1991 I treated one of identiucal pairs of CDs with ArmorAll.
Every couple of years I get the treated discs out to see if they
still play. They do.

I am also investigating the incidence of c!/C2 errors compared
with the untreated CDs for an article to appear in a future issue
of Stereophile.


How could anyone with an IQ above 85 be suckered into
coating their CD recordings with Armor All? At best it would
do nothing bad or good (although fooling with it would eat
up a lot of time doing the applying) and at worst it could
damage the discs.

Apparently, in some cases it did just that. I believe that
Tellig did a follow-up column later on that explained how to
remove Armor All.

What a joke.


Now you get it: a joke. Or do you think he was serious with his $1.25
tweak, too?

Stephen
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MINe 109 wrote:

In article ,
Howard Ferstler wrote:


How could anyone with an IQ above 85 be suckered into
coating their CD recordings with Armor All? At best it would
do nothing bad or good (although fooling with it would eat
up a lot of time doing the applying) and at worst it could
damage the discs.

Apparently, in some cases it did just that. I believe that
Tellig did a follow-up column later on that explained how to
remove Armor All.

What a joke.


Now you get it: a joke. Or do you think he was serious with his $1.25
tweak, too?


I think he was being serious, just like so many other
misguided, sub-educated, and downright dumb tweako
journalists are serious. Like John, this guy was not aware
of just how impressionable the magazine's readers were (and
remain). Remember, he had to publish a retraction that also
described how to remove the Armor All. I think he was dead
serious with both columns, and his readers were dead
serious, too.

Howard Ferstler
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Harold the Pinhead Tweako Knucklehead Plagiarizer said:

I think he was being serious, just like so many other
misguided, sub-educated, and downright dumb tweako
journalists are serious.


Clearly you're drawing a correlation between frequency of publication
and degree of misguidedness, maleducatedness, and dumbness. The more
published a person is, the more he has those undesirable traits.

You've done well, Clerkie. Whoever said you can't do statistics was
clearly underrating you. ;-)






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In article ,
Howard Ferstler wrote:

MINe 109 wrote:

In article ,
Howard Ferstler wrote:


How could anyone with an IQ above 85 be suckered into
coating their CD recordings with Armor All? At best it would
do nothing bad or good (although fooling with it would eat
up a lot of time doing the applying) and at worst it could
damage the discs.

Apparently, in some cases it did just that. I believe that
Tellig did a follow-up column later on that explained how to
remove Armor All.

What a joke.


Now you get it: a joke. Or do you think he was serious with his $1.25
tweak, too?


I think he was being serious, just like so many other
misguided, sub-educated, and downright dumb tweako
journalists are serious. Like John, this guy was not aware
of just how impressionable the magazine's readers were (and
remain). Remember, he had to publish a retraction that also
described how to remove the Armor All. I think he was dead
serious with both columns, and his readers were dead
serious, too.


You think the $1.25 tweak was "dead serious"?

Stephen
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"MINe 109" wrote in message

In article ,
Howard Ferstler wrote:


How could anyone with an IQ above 85 be suckered into
coating their CD recordings with Armor All? At best it would
do nothing bad or good (although fooling with it would eat
up a lot of time doing the applying) and at worst it could
damage the discs.


Apparently, in some cases it did just that. I believe that
Tellig did a follow-up column later on that explained how to
remove Armor All.


What a joke.


Now you get it: a joke.


Where's the illustrated guide that helps Stereophile readers separate the
jokes from the real stuff?

Or do you think he was serious with his $1.25
tweak, too?


That's the basis of an important question - is Stereophile serious about the
RCL or is that yet another joke?


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In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"MINe 109" wrote in message

In article ,
Howard Ferstler wrote:


How could anyone with an IQ above 85 be suckered into
coating their CD recordings with Armor All? At best it would
do nothing bad or good (although fooling with it would eat
up a lot of time doing the applying) and at worst it could
damage the discs.


Apparently, in some cases it did just that. I believe that
Tellig did a follow-up column later on that explained how to
remove Armor All.


What a joke.


Now you get it: a joke.


Where's the illustrated guide that helps Stereophile readers separate the
jokes from the real stuff?


He-he-he.

Or do you think he was serious with his $1.25
tweak, too?


That's the basis of an important question - is Stereophile serious about the
RCL or is that yet another joke?


No, it's a handy marketing tool, like a car magazine's annual picks.

Stephen
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"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message


How could anyone with an IQ above 85 be suckered into
coating their CD recordings with Armor All?


You're asking the right question of the right guy.

At best it would
do nothing bad or good (although fooling with it would eat
up a lot of time doing the applying) and at worst it could
damage the discs.


That appears to be how it all worked out in the end.

Apparently, in some cases it did just that. I believe that
Tellig did a follow-up column later on that explained how to
remove Armor All.

What a joke.


...except to the hapless Stereophile readers who ruined parts of their CD
collection.


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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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There's a story going around that Stereophile pseudonomous author Sam

Tellig
once wrote and article recommending that readers treat their CDs with
Armor-All as a tweak. Supposedly, the actual results of the treatment was
damaging.

Can anyone confirm or deny this story?

The story is false.
It was spread by Kevin Spacey to hide the fact that his hands had slipped
with a green marker.




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Alex Rodriguez said:

I'm pretty sure I recall reading that article in Stereophile. I never did it
as I don't believe that any treatment to an unscratched CD is going to provide
any improvement.


Bear in mind that Krooger believes $1000 checks are superior to actual
toilet paper. Perhaps he has cast-iron ears to go with his cast-iron butt.




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