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SCSI to USB conversion?
I have a Roland VS-880EX, which only has a SCSI interface for external
drives. When I got it, I decided not to buy the external CD-R drive. I bought a 250MB zip drive for backup and archive. I mix down to DAT. Now, I find zip disks are becoming scarce; Best Buy doesn't even sell them any more. I thought I might as well get an external CD-R. The official Roland product lists for $399 and sells for about $250 or so. Other SCSI external CD-Rs are nearly nonexistent while USB devices become more & more prevalent and are in the $75-100 range. Has anybody used or even seen a device to convert SCS to USB? I've seen the reverse: a cable converter to allow connection of a SCSI drive to a PC with USB ports. |
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Theodore Kloba wrote: I have a Roland VS-880EX, which only has a SCSI interface for external drives. When I got it, I decided not to buy the external CD-R drive. I bought a 250MB zip drive for backup and archive. I mix down to DAT. Now, I find zip disks are becoming scarce; Best Buy doesn't even sell them any more. I thought I might as well get an external CD-R. The official Roland product lists for $399 and sells for about $250 or so. Other SCSI external CD-Rs are nearly nonexistent while USB devices become more & more prevalent and are in the $75-100 range. Has anybody used or even seen a device to convert SCS to USB? I've seen the reverse: a cable converter to allow connection of a SCSI drive to a PC with USB ports. There are SCSI PCI cards, but you'd still want to put a drive between the computer and the VS-880. I thought Roland made internal burners ( that might just be a regular ATA type drive ) to go with teh VS series. Check ebay in the used Mac SCSI drives, though i leant a friend my LaCie SCSI burner ( external ) and it wouldn't work with the VS-1880, there are no drivers for it in the operating system. |
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There isa guy on ebay who deals in external Roland SCSI drives among other
equipment.He has good prices Theodore Kloba wrote in message oups.com... I have a Roland VS-880EX, which only has a SCSI interface for external drives. When I got it, I decided not to buy the external CD-R drive. I bought a 250MB zip drive for backup and archive. I mix down to DAT. Now, I find zip disks are becoming scarce; Best Buy doesn't even sell them any more. I thought I might as well get an external CD-R. The official Roland product lists for $399 and sells for about $250 or so. Other SCSI external CD-Rs are nearly nonexistent while USB devices become more & more prevalent and are in the $75-100 range. Has anybody used or even seen a device to convert SCS to USB? I've seen the reverse: a cable converter to allow connection of a SCSI drive to a PC with USB ports. |
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"Theodore Kloba" wrote in message oups.com... I have a Roland VS-880EX, which only has a SCSI interface for external drives. When I got it, I decided not to buy the external CD-R drive. I bought a 250MB zip drive for backup and archive. I mix down to DAT. Now, I find zip disks are becoming scarce; Best Buy doesn't even sell them any more. I thought I might as well get an external CD-R. The official Roland product lists for $399 and sells for about $250 or so. Other SCSI external CD-Rs are nearly nonexistent while USB devices become more & more prevalent and are in the $75-100 range. Has anybody used or even seen a device to convert SCS to USB? I've seen the reverse: a cable converter to allow connection of a SCSI drive to a PC with USB ports. This is a fairly common device, but it will cost you from 50 to 75 dollars. You are very likely going to find a used scsi burner for much less. jb |
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Unfortunately, being the owner of such a drive, I can tell you they're noisy
and slow. They do seem to be reliable though. On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:03:02 GMT, "Troy" wrote: There isa guy on ebay who deals in external Roland SCSI drives among other equipment.He has good prices Theodore Kloba wrote in message roups.com... I have a Roland VS-880EX, which only has a SCSI interface for external drives. When I got it, I decided not to buy the external CD-R drive. I bought a 250MB zip drive for backup and archive. I mix down to DAT. Now, I find zip disks are becoming scarce; Best Buy doesn't even sell them any more. I thought I might as well get an external CD-R. The official Roland product lists for $399 and sells for about $250 or so. Other SCSI external CD-Rs are nearly nonexistent while USB devices become more & more prevalent and are in the $75-100 range. Has anybody used or even seen a device to convert SCS to USB? I've seen the reverse: a cable converter to allow connection of a SCSI drive to a PC with USB ports. |
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nmm wrote:
There are SCSI PCI cards, but you'd still want to put a drive between the computer and the VS-880. Yes... I'd rather not even involve my PC in the backup process if it's not necessary. I thought Roland made internal burners ( that might just be a regular ATA type drive ) to go with teh VS series. The newer ones, yes. The VS-880EX can only use and external SCSI burner. It has one internal hard drive and no bays for more. Check ebay in the used Mac SCSI drives, though i leant a friend my LaCie SCSI burner ( external ) and it wouldn't work with the VS-1880, there are no drivers for it in the operating system. Not only that, but Roland has no list of compatible SCSI CD-R drives; they do have a list for external HDs, magneto-optical, and a bunch of other stuff. |
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Troy wrote:
There isa guy on ebay who deals in external Roland SCSI drives among other equipment.He has good prices Any idea what his eBay ID is? |
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reddred wrote:
This is a fairly common device, but it will cost you from 50 to 75 dollars. You are very likely going to find a used scsi burner for much less. Any idea of a source for it? I thought it *should* be common, but I only found the reverse version. |
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Theodore Kloba wrote:
reddred wrote: This is a fairly common device, but it will cost you from 50 to 75 dollars. You are very likely going to find a used scsi burner for much less. Any idea of a source for it? I thought it *should* be common, but I only found the reverse version. I don't think you're likely to find one at all. Controlling SCSI with USB is not so hard. The USB standard already provides for mass storage devices, and it would be possible to present the SCSI devices as just mass storage devices to the USB bus. But a true USB controller that hooks up via SCSI (the direction you want) would be a lot harder. The main reason is that you can plug in a whole lot of things into a USB port. What happens if you plug in a printer? The USB end of the converter would be able to interface with these things, but there is no standard way to present them on the SCSI bus for the SCSI controller to understand them. Likewise with many other devices. So, if you made such a device, it would have to support only storage devices. That would make it less useful, and you'd have lots of customers who were upset when they found out there was a very limited number of USB things they can plug in and have them work. I'm not saying such a device is impossible, but given that there are lots of difficulties in making it, and given that most people already have USB ports on their computer but don't have SCSI ports, the ability to put a USB port on a SCSI bus is not in very much demand. So if it's hard to make and nobody would want to buy it, my guess is it probably doesn't exist. - Logan |
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"Theodore Kloba" wrote in message oups.com... reddred wrote: This is a fairly common device, but it will cost you from 50 to 75 dollars. You are very likely going to find a used scsi burner for much less. Any idea of a source for it? I thought it *should* be common, but I only found the reverse version. I'm really sorry, Mr. Shaw is correct. Your best bet is to go find an appropriate scsi drive - though my suspicion is that your choice will be limited to a few select drives. jb |
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Mike Rivers wrote
Seems like I remember something like that. One of those lessons in life that I'm still trying to remember is that when you buy something that has options that you think you might have even a teeny need for, you'd better get the options then rather than wait. Othewise they won't be available when you want them. Of course at the time I got the VS-880EX, there was not even a teeny need for the CD-R, since I had (& still have) the SCSI zip drive for archives and a DAT for mixdown. Now the zip media is the only thing missing. Maybe I'll find an online dealer and buy a boatload. |
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In article .com writes: Now the zip media is the only thing missing. Maybe I'll find an online dealer and buy a boatload. Seems like the last time I was at Micro Center, I saw packs of Zip disks. There's their listing on the web: http://tinyurl.com/3tc7a They'll take your money on line. You can probably find cheaper prices on eBay, from someone who wants $19.99 for shipping and handling or some other such nonsense. -- I'm really Mike Rivers ) However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over, lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo |
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Mike Rivers wrote:
In article .com writes: Now the zip media is the only thing missing. Maybe I'll find an online dealer and buy a boatload. Seems like the last time I was at Micro Center, I saw packs of Zip disks. There's their listing on the web: http://tinyurl.com/3tc7a Sheeeeesh, those are expensive. $30 for 300MB storage? It would be a lot easier to just get that SCSI CD-RW. There's a Plextor SCSI one on eBay right now with Buy It Now price of about $75 that says even says it's "compatiable with earlier versions of the Roland VS recorders". - Logan |
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Fortunately I have the Zip 250, so I get 1GB for $40. I ended up
buying elsewhere for about the same price. One advantage to the zip (over CDR) is that If I move a song to the zip, it's still in a playable format. If I decide to remix after archiving, I don't have to transfer the data again. I can just open it up right there. |
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