Arny's apparently sincere commitment to debate John Atkinson at the
Stereophile show should be applauded, IMO, even by those who dislike and
distrust him. It is not going to be an easy venue for him because it is fair
to assume that at least 90 % of the participants who know anything about him
will be opposed to him before he has said a word. Let's face it, not many of
us would dare to enter a venue where one has to transform one's image from
an internet lout to a bona fide audio expert while delivering a highly
objectionable message on a highly emotional topic to a hostile audience.

Arny is smart enough to know that even if he "loses", he may win. Only the
manner of the loss could affect the outcome unfavorably. However it doesn't
change the fact that he is sticking his neck out there.

Cheers,

Margaret

*** Honing my axe :-) ***

The Roy Briggs wrote:


On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 21:07:04 GMT, "Margaret von B."
wrote:

Arny's apparently sincere commitment to debate John Atkinson at the
Stereophile show should be applauded, IMO, even by those who dislike and
distrust him.

He hasn't got there yet.

I would only applaud Arnii if he plugged himself into the wall and
stood in a bath of ECT conductant.


That could be somewhat curative. Assuming he survives, he might experience the
short-term memory loss found in many ECT patients. That would nicely
compliment his long-term memory loss re. RAO. Why - he might even forget to
lie !!!!




It is not going to be an easy venue for him because it is fair
to assume that at least 90 % of the participants who know anything about him

will be opposed to him before he has said a word.

Arnii is known, despised and laughed at on all the audio groups. He's
been chucked off RAHE, and is hated on the pro group and the uk group.
All George's fault, I'm sure.

Agreed. And since McKelvy and Lionel support and agree with almost everything
he says, they should be equally hated and despised.





Let's face it, not many of
us would dare to enter a venue where one has to transform one's image from
an internet lout to a bona fide audio expert while delivering a highly
objectionable message on a highly emotional topic to a hostile audience.

That's why it's going to be so hilarious--in the extremely remote
chance he actually goes thorough with it.

Arny is smart enough to know that even if he "loses", he may win. Only the
manner of the loss could affect the outcome unfavorably. However it doesn't
change the fact that he is sticking his neck out there.

*** Honing my axe :-) ***

Damn ... my thoughts exactly. :-)








There are less painful ways to commit suicide.



Bruce J. Richman

Margaret von B. a écrit :

Arny's apparently sincere commitment to debate John Atkinson at the
Stereophile show should be applauded, IMO, even by those who dislike and
distrust him. It is not going to be an easy venue for him because it is fair
to assume that at least 90 % of the participants who know anything about him
will be opposed to him before he has said a word. Let's face it, not many of
us would dare to enter a venue where one has to transform one's image from
an internet lout to a bona fide audio expert while delivering a highly
objectionable message on a highly emotional topic to a hostile audience.

Arny is smart enough to know that even if he "loses", he may win. Only the
manner of the loss could affect the outcome unfavorably. However it doesn't
change the fact that he is sticking his neck out there.

Unfortunatly your fair conception of the debate isn't share by all
"audio" lovers.
Some of them seems more interested in the *nasty* story than in the
audio debate.
Bruce Richman pretend that Mr Atkinson has invited Arnold Krueger to
hold him accountable of Krueger's "paranoid" accusations.

Where you read discussion richman would like to read execution...

We are very far from audio, sad isn't it ?

Lionel lies again:


Margaret von B. a écrit :

Arny's apparently sincere commitment to debate John Atkinson at the
Stereophile show should be applauded, IMO, even by those who dislike and
distrust him. It is not going to be an easy venue for him because it is
fair
to assume that at least 90 % of the participants who know anything about
him
will be opposed to him before he has said a word. Let's face it, not many
of
us would dare to enter a venue where one has to transform one's image from
an internet lout to a bona fide audio expert while delivering a highly
objectionable message on a highly emotional topic to a hostile audience.

Arny is smart enough to know that even if he "loses", he may win. Only the
manner of the loss could affect the outcome unfavorably. However it doesn't

change the fact that he is sticking his neck out there.

Unfortunatly your fair conception of the debate isn't share by all
"audio" lovers.
Some of them seems more interested in the *nasty* story than in the
audio debate.

Lionel has openly admitted that he is"nasty" and a "flamer", so it is quite
clear that his interest in audiio debate - especially on RAO, if not elsewhere
- is minimal.



Bruce Richman pretend that Mr Atkinson has invited Arnold Krueger to
hold him accountable of Krueger's "paranoid" accusations.

That is a bald faced lie. Since I don't know Mr. Atkinson's reasons for
inviting Krueger, I can *speculate* or *hypothesize* - not "pretend" - a
deliberate lie by Lionel - abvout John's reasons for inviting Krueger to RAO.
I consider it highly likely that given Krueger's history of libelous false
claims directed at Mr. Atkinson and his publication, that at least *one* of the
reasons for the invitation would be to discuss these claims. I don't presume
to know Mr. Atkinson's motivations, and therefore am just offering an opinion
based on their RAO history. I also think that the debate is likely to include
such subjects as audio reviewer methodology, objective vs. subjective
evaluations of audio equipment, double blind testing, the qualifications of
audio reviewers, etc.

Since Mr. Atkinson has made it clear that any topic is open for discussion,
it's pretty obvious that a number of topics may come up.

If it were not for the fact that Howard Ferstler and Tom Nousaine are both
associated with other audio publications that compete to some extent with
Stereoiphile, I think it's possible that they might have been asked rather than
Krueger. OTOH, neither has been as vocal about specifically targeting Atkinson
with negative comments as Krueger.





Where you read discussion richman would like to read execution...


Lionel is once again lying. He has no factual evidence to support this
hysterical false claim.


We are very far from audio, sad isn't it ?


And your posts on RAO do what to correct this situation?

Does your incessant flaming help?


When was the last time you posted anything even remotely audio related that did
not also contain one or more petty, jjuvenile insults directed at one of your
many RAO targets?

Why don't you post something that is purely audio-related for a change?


Bruce J. Richman

Bruce J. Richman a écrit :

That is a bald faced lie. Since I don't know Mr. Atkinson's reasons for
inviting Krueger, I can *speculate* or *hypothesize* - not "pretend" - a
deliberate lie by Lionel - abvout John's reasons for inviting Krueger to RAO.
I consider it highly likely that given Krueger's history of libelous false
claims directed at Mr. Atkinson and his publication, that at least *one* of the
reasons for the invitation would be to discuss these claims. I don't presume
to know Mr. Atkinson's motivations, and therefore am just offering an opinion
based on their RAO history. I also think that the debate is likely to include
such subjects as audio reviewer methodology, objective vs. subjective
evaluations of audio equipment, double blind testing, the qualifications of
audio reviewers, etc.

"Since Krueger's paranoid claims *are* oftren about Atkinson and his
allleged cliques and conspiracies (via his magazine) to attack his
"scientific" bloviations on RAO, I think it's fair to assume that Mr.
Atkinson intends to hold Krueger accountable at the Home Entertainment
Show for the various accusations (paranoid in tone) that Krueger has
leveled against him and Stereophile.
It is one thing for Krueger to make all sorts of accusations on
RAO. It will be quite another for him to have to attend them in person,
in a public forum, with Mr. Atkinson present."

No comment.

"Margaret von B." wrote in message
...
Arny's apparently sincere commitment to debate John Atkinson at the
Stereophile show should be applauded, IMO, even by those who dislike and
distrust him. It is not going to be an easy venue for him because it is
fair to assume that at least 90 % of the participants who know anything
about him will be opposed to him before he has said a word. Let's face it,
not many of us would dare to enter a venue where one has to transform
one's image from an internet lout to a bona fide audio expert while
delivering a highly objectionable message on a highly emotional topic to a
hostile audience.

Arny is smart enough to know that even if he "loses", he may win. Only the
manner of the loss could affect the outcome unfavorably. However it
doesn't change the fact that he is sticking his neck out there.

Cheers,

Margaret

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"Margaret von B." wrote in message
...
Arny's apparently sincere commitment to debate John Atkinson at the
Stereophile show should be applauded, IMO, even by those who dislike and
distrust him. It is not going to be an easy venue for him because it is
fair to assume that at least 90 % of the participants who know anything
about him will be opposed to him before he has said a word. Let's face it,
not many of us would dare to enter a venue where one has to transform
one's image from an internet lout to a bona fide audio expert while
delivering a highly objectionable message on a highly emotional topic to a
hostile audience.

Arny is smart enough to know that even if he "loses", he may win. Only the
manner of the loss could affect the outcome unfavorably. However it
doesn't change the fact that he is sticking his neck out there.

Cheers,

Margaret

*** Honing my axe :-) ***






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"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message

Lionel lies again:

Bruce Richman pretend that Mr Atkinson has invited Arnold Krueger to
hold him accountable of Krueger's "paranoid" accusations.

That is a bald faced lie.

it's clearly a paraphrase of the following:

"Since Krueger's paranoid claims *are* oftren about Atkinson *and his
allleged
cliques and conspiracies (via his magazine) to attack his "s*cientific"
bloviations on RAO, I think it's fair to assume that Mr. Atk*inson intends
to
hold Krueger accountable at the Home Entertainment Show for *the various
accusations (paranoid in tone) that Krueger has leveled agai*nst him and
Stereophile."

The identity of the author of this paragraph can be found at:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...6497180ec67f04

I'll save everybody the web browsing and cut to the chase - the author is
Bruce Richman.

Richman's characterization of Lionel's concise paraphrase of what he posted
just a few days ago as a "bald faced lie" is one of the more disingenuous
insults to common decency that Richman has ever inflicted on this group. I
can't believe that self-pronounced guardians of the truth like Dave and
Stephen can let this flagrant lie go unchallenged.

Arny Krueger wrote:


"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message

Lionel lies again:

Bruce Richman pretend that Mr Atkinson has invited Arnold Krueger to
hold him accountable of Krueger's "paranoid" accusations.

That is a bald faced lie.

it's clearly a paraphrase of the following:

"Since Krueger's paranoid claims *are* oftren about Atkinson *and his
allleged
cliques and conspiracies (via his magazine) to attack his "s*cientific"
bloviations on RAO, I think it's fair to assume that Mr. Atk*inson intends
to
hold Krueger accountable at the Home Entertainment Show for *the various
accusations (paranoid in tone) that Krueger has leveled agai*nst him and
Stereophile."

The identity of the author of this paragraph can be found at:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...6497180ec67f04

I'll save everybody the web browsing and cut to the chase - the author is
Bruce Richman.

Richman's characterization of Lionel's concise paraphrase of what he posted
just a few days ago as a "bald faced lie" is one of the more disingenuous
insults to common decency that Richman has ever inflicted on this group. I
can't believe that self-pronounced guardians of the truth like Dave and
Stephen can let this flagrant lie go unchallenged.










Krueger's failure to reproduce the entiire postr in which I'm quoted out of
context is typical of this proven liar's deceptive efforts on RAO. Lionel - in
his predictable support of Krueger - claimed that I was "pretending" to make
"petty and miserable" assertions about the debate. Krueger', as usual, tries
to ignore this, and also, as is habit, tries to encouirage others to join his
smear campaign.

Itr will indeed to be interesting to see whether Krueger can defend his
documented libelous attacks on Atkinson at hte Home Entertainment Show, It is
a documented fact that at one point, Krueger was told that he could be facing
legal action over some of his comments about Atkinson and/or Stereophile.

I'm sure he would like it if no mention of these despicable attacks was made
either here or at the debate -as would his supoorter, Lionel - but in the real
world, people can be held accountable for their actions, which I think he'll
find out if he shows up.



Bruce J. Richman

In , Bruce J. Richman wrote :


[snip Richman's paranoid garbage]

You are a miserably and pitifully paranoid, Doc.

I don't care if my definition fit your pseudo-professional/scientific
criterias but I sure that, in your case, it is the simpliest expression of
the common sens.

In , Bruce J. Richman wrote :

[snip Richman's paranoid garbage]

You are a miserable and pitiful paranoid, Doc.

I don't care if my definition fit your pseudo-professional/scientific
criterias but I sure that, in your case, it is the simpliest expression of
the common sens.

(Lionel's idiotic and quite delusioinal rantings deleted since they make no
sense).

Lionel, as can be expected, proved himself unable to either comprehend or
engage in ratinoal conversation.

His idiocy remains on display for all to see.



Bruce J. Richman

"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
...

"Margaret von B." wrote in message
...
Arny's apparently sincere commitment to debate John Atkinson at the
Stereophile show should be applauded, IMO, even by those who dislike and
distrust him. It is not going to be an easy venue for him because it is
fair to assume that at least 90 % of the participants who know anything
about him will be opposed to him before he has said a word. Let's face
it,
not many of us would dare to enter a venue where one has to transform
one's image from an internet lout to a bona fide audio expert while
delivering a highly objectionable message on a highly emotional topic to
a
hostile audience.

Arny is smart enough to know that even if he "loses", he may win. Only
the
manner of the loss could affect the outcome unfavorably. However it
doesn't change the fact that he is sticking his neck out there.

Cheers,

Margaret

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Clyde,

Do you do this just to annoy everyone else?

Cheers,

Margaret

"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:


"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message

Lionel lies again:

Bruce Richman pretend that Mr Atkinson has invited Arnold Krueger
to hold him accountable of Krueger's "paranoid" accusations.

That is a bald faced lie.

it's clearly a paraphrase of the following:

"Since Krueger's paranoid claims *are* oftren about Atkinson *and his
allleged
cliques and conspiracies (via his magazine) to attack his
"s*cientific" bloviations on RAO, I think it's fair to assume that
Mr. Atk*inson intends to
hold Krueger accountable at the Home Entertainment Show for *the
various accusations (paranoid in tone) that Krueger has leveled
agai*nst him and Stereophile."

The identity of the author of this paragraph can be found at:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...6497180ec67f04

I'll save everybody the web browsing and cut to the chase - the
author is Bruce Richman.

Richman's characterization of Lionel's concise paraphrase of what he
posted just a few days ago as a "bald faced lie" is one of the more
disingenuous insults to common decency that Richman has ever
inflicted on this group. I can't believe that self-pronounced
guardians of the truth like Dave and Stephen can let this flagrant
lie go unchallenged.

Krueger's failure to reproduce the entiire postr in which I'm quoted
out of context is typical of this proven liar's deceptive efforts on
RAO.

This is yet another bald-faced lie from Richman. I reproduced the entire
post via a precise link to Google.

Lionel - in his predictable support of Krueger - claimed that I
was "pretending" to make "petty and miserable" assertions about the
debate.

I think that your assertions speak for themselves.

Krueger', as usual, tries to ignore this, and also, as is
habit, tries to encourage others to join his smear campaign.

I need no smear campaign as Richman's own words are sufficiently damaging.

Itr will indeed to be interesting to see whether Krueger can defend
his documented libelous attacks on Atkinson at hte Home Entertainment
Show,

Here is yet another example of Richman making threats against me on behalf
of Atkinson.

It is a documented fact that at one point, Krueger was told
that he could be facing legal action over some of his comments about
Atkinson and/or Stereophile.

I believe this is a true statement. Perhaps Atkinson is going to import me
into New York to serve me!

I'm sure he would like it if no mention of these despicable attacks
was made either here or at the debate -as would his supoorter, Lionel
but in the real world, people can be held accountable for their
actions, which I think he'll find out if he shows up.

Here is yet another example of Richman making threats against me on behalf
of Atkinson.

"Margaret von B." wrote in message
...
Arny's apparently sincere commitment to debate John Atkinson at the
Stereophile show should be applauded, IMO, even by those who dislike and
distrust him. It is not going to be an easy venue for him because it is
fair to assume that at least 90 % of the participants who know anything
about him will be opposed to him before he has said a word. Let's face it,
not many of us would dare to enter a venue where one has to transform
one's image from an internet lout to a bona fide audio expert while
delivering a highly objectionable message on a highly emotional topic to a
hostile audience.

Arny is smart enough to know that even if he "loses", he may win. Only the
manner of the loss could affect the outcome unfavorably. However it
doesn't change the fact that he is sticking his neck out there.

Cheers,

Margaret

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Arny Krueger wrote:


"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:


"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message

Lionel lies again:

Bruce Richman pretend that Mr Atkinson has invited Arnold Krueger
to hold him accountable of Krueger's "paranoid" accusations.

That is a bald faced lie.

it's clearly a paraphrase of the following:

"Since Krueger's paranoid claims *are* oftren about Atkinson *and his
allleged
cliques and conspiracies (via his magazine) to attack his
"s*cientific" bloviations on RAO, I think it's fair to assume that
Mr. Atk*inson intends to
hold Krueger accountable at the Home Entertainment Show for *the
various accusations (paranoid in tone) that Krueger has leveled
agai*nst him and Stereophile."

The identity of the author of this paragraph can be found at:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...6497180ec67f04

I'll save everybody the web browsing and cut to the chase - the
author is Bruce Richman.

Richman's characterization of Lionel's concise paraphrase of what he
posted just a few days ago as a "bald faced lie" is one of the more
disingenuous insults to common decency that Richman has ever
inflicted on this group. I can't believe that self-pronounced
guardians of the truth like Dave and Stephen can let this flagrant
lie go unchallenged.

Krueger's failure to reproduce the entiire postr in which I'm quoted
out of context is typical of this proven liar's deceptive efforts on
RAO.

This is yet another bald-faced lie from Richman. I reproduced the entire
post via a precise link to Google.


This is just a semantic word game being played by Krueger. It's quite obvious
that he chose one paragraph out of several that I wrote to reproduce here.
Providing a link is NOT the same as actually reproducing a post. So once
again, Krueger is simply displaying his usual dishonesty in what he has
written.



Lionel - in his predictable support of Krueger - claimed that I
was "pretending" to make "petty and miserable" assertions about the
debate.

I think that your assertions speak for themselves.


No assertions were made. Only an opinion was offered. And the use of the word
"pretend", was Lionel's not mine. Therefore, you're once again aiming your
flames at the wrong person.




Krueger', as usual, tries to ignore this, and also, as is
habit, tries to encourage others to join his smear campaign.

I need no smear campaign as Richman's own words are sufficiently damaging.



There is nothing whatsoever damaging in them, since they merely offer and
educated guess re.one of Mr. Atkinson's probably reasons for inviting Krueger
to the Home Entertainment Show.

What is quite damaging however, is a documented Google record in which Krueger,
has, on several occasions, libeled both Mr. Atkinson and Stereophile.

Making libelous false claims is a particular type of nasty behavior for which
Krueger is widely known and despised on RAO. He's targeted several other
individuals, incliuding Scott Wheeler and myself, so his smears of Atkinson
are right in character for him.



Itr will indeed to be interesting to see whether Krueger can defend
his documented libelous attacks on Atkinson at hte Home Entertainment
Show,

Here is yet another example of Richman making threats against me on behalf
of Atkinson.



Krueger is clearly imagining things here. There is no threat being made by me
or anybody else against Krueger in this thread. Any threats would be solely
the product of Krueger's diseased mind.

I( merely have pointed out that it is quite likely that Krueger's cloaims about
"snake oil", "conspiracies", etc. in reference to Stereophile and its editor
are quite likely to be one of the subjects that one or both of them might bring
up.



It is a documented fact that at one point, Krueger was told
that he could be facing legal action over some of his comments about
Atkinson and/or Stereophile.

I believe this is a true statement. Perhaps Atkinson is going to import me
into New York to serve me!


The Google record clearly indicates that at one point, legal action was hinted
at in response to some of Krueger's more outrageous and libelous false claims
about Stereophile and its editor.

Making light of the documented Google record does not change the facts and/or
the history of Krueger's RAO interactions with Mr. Atkinson.


I'm sure he would like it if no mention of these despicable attacks
was made either here or at the debate -as would his supoorter, Lionel
but in the real world, people can be held accountable for their
actions, which I think he'll find out if he shows up.

Here is yet another example of Richman making threats against me on behalf
of Atkinson.




Krueger is once again giving us an example of his raging paranoia, If he
believes that anything I've said above constitutes a threat on behalf of either
myself or Mr. Atkinson, he's becoming more delusional and out of touch with
reality with each sentence he writes.

Where is the evidence for this paranoid claim of Krueger's? Where is the
threat?

Having to defend one's published lies about another person as found in the RAO
record during the course of a debate is NOT A THREAT. And being held
accountable is not a threat either.


Bruce J. Richman

Bruce J. Richman wrote:



Krueger is clearly imagining things here. There is no threat being made by me
or anybody else against Krueger in this thread. Any threats would be solely
the product of Krueger's diseased mind.

....

The Google record clearly indicates that at one point, legal action was hinted
at in response to some of Krueger's more outrageous and libelous false claims
about Stereophile and its editor.

.....


Krueger is once again giving us an example of his raging paranoia, If he
believes that anything I've said above constitutes a threat on behalf of either
myself or Mr. Atkinson, he's becoming more delusional and out of touch with
reality with each sentence he writes.

.....

The ****borgs pants are on fire. He is in a state of panic. Almost every
single excuse for him to cop-out of the debate has been predicted here
by his enemies (even including getting lost in his own basement!!!)
.... He certainly does not want to prove any of the said predictions
right. He is somewhat able to think of the possibly "not-so-nice" (so as
not to sound threatning) consequences of actually showing up, so he
knows that he can't really afford to show up. On the other, he DOES NOT
want to prove Middius, for instance, right! So the man is facing a
schism of huge proportions. His already over-the-top paranoid and
irritated, unhappy existence is now in a state of overload, PANIC. He
always thought that he would, using whatever means possible, try to
*steal* audio enjoyment, without facing any of the consequences of his
base, beastly, contemptible actions, but now, it seems there is no
choice but to face the music (pun intended).

Fella a écrit :


On the other, he DOES NOT want to prove Middius, for instance, right!

Sorry to massacre your post Fella but you don't seem to know what we
call here the "Middius constant" and/or "Middius' malediction".

It is one of these innumerable human axioms that cannot be explained but
that can be easily verifiable :

"Occuring events will be *always* contrary to a Middius' prediction".

Just wait and see... ;-)

"Clyde Slick" wrote in message


I'm hoping that somebody who is annoyed by it will send me a new
mouse!

Never heard of surfing the web for computer parts?

I sincerily hope you can afford this:

http://www.logicalplus.com/bllom2psmowi.html

According to Pricewatch, the total cost shipped is $4. It's actually a very
decent mouse.

Of course, you'll probably need professional help to install it...

Lionel said:


On the other, he DOES NOT want to prove Middius, for instance, right!

Sorry to massacre your post Fella but you don't seem to know what we
call here the "Middius constant" and/or "Middius' malediction".

It is one of these innumerable human axioms that cannot be explained but
that can be easily verifiable :

"Occuring events will be *always* contrary to a Middius' prediction".

You are close, but this is the real reason.

It's a matter of duality, call it yin and yang if you want:

For every Krueger, there has to be a Middius (and vice-versa).

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

Sander deWaal a écrit :
Lionel said:


On the other, he DOES NOT want to prove Middius, for instance, right!

Sorry to massacre your post Fella but you don't seem to know what we
call here the "Middius constant" and/or "Middius' malediction".

It is one of these innumerable human axioms that cannot be explained but
that can be easily verifiable :

"Occuring events will be *always* contrary to a Middius' prediction".


You are close, but this is the real reason.

It's a matter of duality, call it yin and yang if you want:

Male and female ? ;-)


For every Krueger, there has to be a Middius (and vice-versa).

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message


For every Krueger, there has to be a Middius (and vice-versa).

Nope. Only on RAO.

Lionel wrote:

Fella a écrit :


On the other, he DOES NOT want to prove Middius, for instance, right!


Sorry to massacre your post Fella

It's OK, no sweat, go ahead, massacre my post.


but you don't seem to know what we
call here the "Middius constant" and/or "Middius' malediction".

Ok, so this is some common denominator where "normals" and borgs meet?


"Occuring events will be *always* contrary to a Middius' prediction".


Well, perhaps Midius does his predictions so that the contrary does come
true, in some of the cases at least.

See, in this case, Lionel, I don't think there is single "normal" here
that would not want the ****borg to show up at that event, including
Middius. The ****borg is going to finally face the music.

Arny Krueger wrote:


Of course, you'll probably need professional help to install it...

Haha! Yet *another* good one by a borg.

George M. Middius wrote:



I don't think that was a joke. Have you ever seen any of the audio
equipment designed by 'borgs? Inaccessibility is the watchword.

Yes well, I can imagine that the equipment they design would be quite
paralell to the websites they design, www.pcavtech.com.

Mickmickey, while bravely fighting arny's battle, asked if I wanted a
refund. Actualy yes, I do, that site could well be classified as a crime
against humanity.


Remember that pile of junk Krooger showed us that he called
an "audio setup" or something?

Perhaps I've missed that one (which is nice). Arny's "audio setup"
(YIKES! PUKE!) would certainly be enough of a factor to lock him up and
throw away the key.

That was the detritus of Krooger's attempts
to "fix" some equipment he broke. No tool too obscure, no fitting too
inappropriate: If it doesn't fit, it's made for ****.


Agreed. Though still, needing proffessional help to install a mouse ..
it was a good joke, considering Slick's persistence on using that old
rat he uses and all the double posts, etc, it was also fitting.

Ruud Broens wrote:

he's trying to do all the prime numbers to a 100 with
blank posts - he's already gone up to 11...
Rudy



11 ! Missed that one (which is nice).

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message


I'm hoping that somebody who is annoyed by it will send me a new
mouse!

Never heard of surfing the web for computer parts?

I sincerily hope you can afford this:

http://www.logicalplus.com/bllom2psmowi.html

According to Pricewatch, the total cost shipped is $4. It's actually a
very decent mouse.

Of course, you'll probably need professional help to install it...


And being an OEM product, it probably doesn't come with a user manual and
quick start guide so it will be useless to him.


Cheers,

Margaret

"Margaret von B." wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message


I'm hoping that somebody who is annoyed by it will send me a new
mouse!

Never heard of surfing the web for computer parts?

I sincerily hope you can afford this:

http://www.logicalplus.com/bllom2psmowi.html

According to Pricewatch, the total cost shipped is $4. It's actually
a very decent mouse.

Of course, you'll probably need professional help to install it...

And being an OEM product, it probably doesn't come with a user manual
and quick start guide so it will be useless to him.

Agreed that given Art's demonstrated mental proficiency, even with the user
manual and quick start guide, this or any other mouse would be totally
useless.

For the rest of us with IQs in the triple-digits...

This particular mouse uses drivers that have been built into Win98, Win98SE,
WIN2000, and WinXP since day one for each OS. I'm a little hazy about
Win95SR2 and Win95, but I think they are there as well.

You plug this mouse's little green plug into the little green PS/2 mouse
socket on the PCs back panel, turn on the machine, and when the OS finishes
booting, you've got a working mouse. The only way you can blow the
installation is to plug the mouse into the keyboard socket of some machines
(but others figure that out automagically), not wait for the OS to do its
thing, or not plug it in at all.

I've got Art figured for the performance-anxiety-laden, not plug it in at
all plan.

Arny Krueger wrote:



I've got Art figured for the performance-anxiety-laden, not plug it
in at
all plan.




Let's not discuss Art's sex life. :-0

"Arny Krueger" said:

You plug this mouse's little green plug into the little green PS/2 mouse
socket on the PCs back panel, turn on the machine, and when the OS finishes
booting, you've got a working mouse. The only way you can blow the
installation is to plug the mouse into the keyboard socket of some machines
(but others figure that out automagically), not wait for the OS to do its
thing, or not plug it in at all.


My mouse has a white plug. What do I do now?

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
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"Arny Krueger" said:

You plug this mouse's little green plug into the little green PS/2
mouse socket on the PCs back panel, turn on the machine, and when
the OS finishes booting, you've got a working mouse. The only way
you can blow the installation is to plug the mouse into the keyboard
socket of some machines (but others figure that out automagically),
not wait for the OS to do its thing, or not plug it in at all.


My mouse has a white plug. What do I do now?

If it works invoke the rule of: "If its not broken, don't fix it". ;-)

In the case of the mouse I recommended to Art, it was specific mouse whose
plug color I know from personal experience.

In the US, 95% or more of all mice from new production have green plugs.

"Arny Krueger" said:

My mouse has a white plug. What do I do now?

If it works invoke the rule of: "If its not broken, don't fix it". ;-)


That contradicts my view of life.
Rule # 1: if it has screws, it can be opened.
Rule # 2: dissemble it and find out how it works.
Rule # 3: it probably won't fit together again, so buy a new one.


In the case of the mouse I recommended to Art, it was specific mouse whose
plug color I know from personal experience.


I know, most modern mouses and keyboards have standardized colors.


In the US, 95% or more of all mice from new production have green plugs.


Here as well. I just love that old stuff .

BTW Art, you could try a touch screen ;-)

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
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"Arny Krueger" said:

You plug this mouse's little green plug into the little green PS/2 mouse
socket on the PCs back panel, turn on the machine, and when the OS
finishes
booting, you've got a working mouse. The only way you can blow the
installation is to plug the mouse into the keyboard socket of some
machines
(but others figure that out automagically), not wait for the OS to do its
thing, or not plug it in at all.


My mouse has a white plug. What do I do now?

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

Someone told me the white one is a butt-plug...

Cheers,

Margaret

"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
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: "Arny Krueger" said:
:
: My mouse has a white plug. What do I do now?
:
: If it works invoke the rule of: "If its not broken, don't fix it". ;-)
:
:
: That contradicts my view of life.
: Rule # 1: if it has screws, it can be opened.
: Rule # 2: dissemble it and find out how it works.
: Rule # 3: it probably won't fit together again, so buy a new one.
:
Even if it has torx. Don't do that with your HD , unless it's an old one,
like 3 years or even older :-) Some fine magnets in there..
Very shiny shaving mirror..

Rudy
disassembler

: In the case of the mouse I recommended to Art, it was specific mouse whose
: plug color I know from personal experience.
:
:
: I know, most modern mouses and keyboards have standardized colors.
:
:
: In the US, 95% or more of all mice from new production have green plugs.
:
:
: Here as well. I just love that old stuff .
:
: BTW Art, you could try a touch screen ;-)
:
: --
: Sander de Waal
: " SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

Arny Krueger wrote:


"Bruce J. Richman" emitted :

Itr will indeed to be interesting to see whether Krueger can defend his
documented libelous attacks on Atkinson at hte Home Entertainment Show, It
is
a documented fact that at one point, Krueger was told that he could be
facing
legal action over some of his comments about Atkinson and/or Stereophile.

In the absence of the ability to use his preferred emoticons in a
speaking forum, Krueger might remonstrate his position through the use
of cards carrying symbols to be held aloft at appropriate times (eg
";-)" or ":-(" or "ROTFL!"). This could prove to be especially
effective in conveying the true meaning of his message, if used in
conjunction with the right attire and props..
http://www.schoolsalad.com/The%20Sal...ages/clown.jpg


Yes, quite right. That would be a step up from going to work in his
underwear.


Well.. that's a bit of a Kroo-dream actually!
I'd recommend one of these be installed on the podium...
http://www.houseofwood.fsnet.co.uk/h...pain/large.htm


S i g n a l @ l i n e o n e . n e t
-----------------------------------
It's Grim down south..









Bruce J. Richman

"Margaret von B." said:

My mouse has a white plug. What do I do now?

Someone told me the white one is a butt-plug...


Naah.......can't be. Too small.

The She© concurs.

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

In , Fella wrote :

Lionel wrote:

Fella a écrit :


On the other, he DOES NOT want to prove Middius, for instance, right!


Sorry to massacre your post Fella

It's OK, no sweat, go ahead, massacre my post.


but you don't seem to know what we
call here the "Middius constant" and/or "Middius' malediction".

Ok, so this is some common denominator where "normals" and borgs meet?


"Occuring events will be *always* contrary to a Middius' prediction".


Well, perhaps Midius does his predictions so that the contrary does come
true, in some of the cases at least.

See, in this case, Lionel, I don't think there is single "normal" here
that would not want the ****borg to show up at that event, including
Middius. The ****borg is going to finally face the music.

I'm afraid that you are a little bit naive on this one Fella... But futur
will tell. ;-)

OTOH when Krueger will be in NY, people will be able to check if he is a
real human being, since...

*NOBODY* here has never met any George M. Middius even his (its) best
on-line friends... ;-)

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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I've got Art figured for the performance-anxiety-laden, not plug it in at
all plan.

I'm just tired of going in there every two weeks
to clean out the cat hairs.



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"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
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"Arny Krueger" said:

My mouse has a white plug. What do I do now?

If it works invoke the rule of: "If its not broken, don't fix it". ;-)


That contradicts my view of life.
Rule # 1: if it has screws, it can be opened.
Rule # 2: dissemble it and find out how it works.
Rule # 3: it probably won't fit together again, so buy a new one.


In the case of the mouse I recommended to Art, it was specific mouse whose
plug color I know from personal experience.


I know, most modern mouses and keyboards have standardized colors.


In the US, 95% or more of all mice from new production have green plugs.


Here as well. I just love that old stuff .

BTW Art, you could try a touch screen ;-)


How much $$$$$ will I be spending just to
make all you guys a little happier about not
having to read my blank posts? How will this
enrich my life?



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Someone told me the white one is a butt-plug...


It used to be white.




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