Just did a search looking for posts to RAO where Arny mentions Bruce and
where Bruce mentions Arny.

The results:

Posts where Arny is the author and the words Bruce J. Richman are in the
text: 270

Posts where Bruce J. Richman is the author and Arny Krueger is mentioned in
the text: 1,010.

Another search for posts where Bruce J. Richman is the author and the words
liar, hate monger, sociopath, or delusional appear: 609

Other searches:

Number of posts where George Middius is the author: 47,700.

Number of posts where Arny Krueger is the author: 37,900.

Number of posts where I am the author under the 3 user id's I have had:
6,699.

Michael McKelvy wrote:
Just did a search looking for posts to RAO where Arny mentions Bruce
and
where Bruce mentions Arny.

The results:

Posts where Arny is the author and the words Bruce J. Richman are in
the
text: 270

Posts where Bruce J. Richman is the author and Arny Krueger is
mentioned in
the text: 1,010.

Another search for posts where Bruce J. Richman is the author and the
words
liar, hate monger, sociopath, or delusional appear: 609

Other searches:

Number of posts where George Middius is the author: 47,700.

Number of posts where Arny Krueger is the author: 37,900.

Number of posts where I am the author under the 3 user id's I have
had:
6,699.

What you have above is what more knowledgable people than McKelvy call
"data dredging" or "how to lie with statistics".

To begin with, Krueger, as part of his usual attempts to ridicule and
belittle people, generally refers to people he dislikes only by their
last name. Theefore, McKelvy's phony attempt to compare Krueger's use
of the words "Bruce J. Richman" with any other variable is fraudulent.
Krueger generally refers to me as "Richman", not "Bruce J. Richman", so
any word search using "Bruce J. Richman" is deliberately designed to
present misleading statistics.

McKelvy's "Google searches" are obviously skewed to promote his agenda.
No scientific observer would draw any conclusions from them other than
that they involve cherry picking and a transparent attempt to once
again smear one of his many opponents.

And obviously, people who post more often than McKelvy, will use just
about *any* word more often then he does. It is interesting to note
that he deliberately avoids doing data searches about the use of terms
such as "delusional" and "conspiracy" by Krueger. We all know why. He
wouldn't like results obtained form using Google searches on a
frequent poster like Krueger.
As usual, meaningless data from McKelvy.

Bruce J. Richman wrote:
Michael McKelvy wrote:
Just did a search looking for posts to RAO where Arny mentions
Bruce
and
where Bruce mentions Arny.

The results:

Posts where Arny is the author and the words Bruce J. Richman are
in
the
text: 270

Posts where Bruce J. Richman is the author and Arny Krueger is
mentioned in
the text: 1,010.

Another search for posts where Bruce J. Richman is the author and
the
words
liar, hate monger, sociopath, or delusional appear: 609

Other searches:

Number of posts where George Middius is the author: 47,700.

Number of posts where Arny Krueger is the author: 37,900.

Number of posts where I am the author under the 3 user id's I have
had:
6,699.

What you have above is what more knowledgable people than McKelvy
call
"data dredging" or "how to lie with statistics".

To begin with, Krueger, as part of his usual attempts to ridicule and
belittle people, generally refers to people he dislikes only by their
last name. Theefore, McKelvy's phony attempt to compare Krueger's
use
of the words "Bruce J. Richman" with any other variable is
fraudulent.
Krueger generally refers to me as "Richman", not "Bruce J. Richman",
so
any word search using "Bruce J. Richman" is deliberately designed to
present misleading statistics.

McKelvy's "Google searches" are obviously skewed to promote his
agenda.
No scientific observer would draw any conclusions from them other
than
that they involve cherry picking and a transparent attempt to once
again smear one of his many opponents.

And obviously, people who post more often than McKelvy, will use just
about *any* word more often then he does. It is interesting to note
that he deliberately avoids doing data searches about the use of
terms
such as "delusional" and "conspiracy" by Krueger. We all know why.
He
wouldn't like results obtained form using Google searches on a
frequent poster like Krueger.
As usual, meaningless data from McKelvy.

In addition to the points raised above, I neglected to mention one
other very important reason why McKelvy's statistics are almost
worthless - especially when it comes to "word counts". As almost
everybody knows, posts often contain quotations from *previous* posts
in which certain words have been used. Therefore, frequency counts also
reflect the "repetition" words NOT BY THE AUTHOR BUT ONLY FROM A
PREVIOUS POST THAT IS INCLUDED. Google has no way of separating out
this variable. Once again, it's just another example of "How To Lie
With Statistics" - a practice that McKelvy has demonstrated he
endorses.

"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
ups.com...

Michael McKelvy wrote:
Just did a search looking for posts to RAO where Arny mentions Bruce
and
where Bruce mentions Arny.

The results:

Posts where Arny is the author and the words Bruce J. Richman are in
the
text: 270

Posts where Bruce J. Richman is the author and Arny Krueger is
mentioned in
the text: 1,010.

Another search for posts where Bruce J. Richman is the author and the
words
liar, hate monger, sociopath, or delusional appear: 609

Other searches:

Number of posts where George Middius is the author: 47,700.

Number of posts where Arny Krueger is the author: 37,900.

Number of posts where I am the author under the 3 user id's I have
had:
6,699.

What you have above is what more knowledgable people than McKelvy call
"data dredging" or "how to lie with statistics".

To begin with, Krueger, as part of his usual attempts to ridicule and
belittle people, generally refers to people he dislikes only by their
last name. Theefore, McKelvy's phony attempt to compare Krueger's use
of the words "Bruce J. Richman" with any other variable is fraudulent.
Krueger generally refers to me as "Richman", not "Bruce J. Richman", so
any word search using "Bruce J. Richman" is deliberately designed to
present misleading statistics.

Fine, I'll do it your way, I'll search for just Richman. There was no
deliberate attempt to mislead, but you knew that.

The number of post where Arny is the author and the word Richman is found is
388. A staggering difference.

McKelvy's "Google searches" are obviously skewed to promote his agenda.

Nope, just trying to find something about who does what.

No scientific observer would draw any conclusions from them other than
that they involve cherry picking and a transparent attempt to once
again smear one of his many opponents.


Tell how a scientist would do it, do you know any?

And obviously, people who post more often than McKelvy, will use just
about *any* word more often then he does. It is interesting to note
that he deliberately avoids doing data searches about the use of terms
such as "delusional" and "conspiracy" by Krueger.

OK let's try that.The number of posts where Arny is the author and either
the word delusional or conspiracy are used is 273. You're still ahead.

We all know why. He
wouldn't like results obtained form using Google searches on a
frequent poster like Krueger.
As usual, meaningless data from McKelvy.

As usual, hysterical rantings and delusions of omniscience from you.

"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
oups.com...

Bruce J. Richman wrote:
Michael McKelvy wrote:
Just did a search looking for posts to RAO where Arny mentions
Bruce
and
where Bruce mentions Arny.

The results:

Posts where Arny is the author and the words Bruce J. Richman are
in
the
text: 270

Posts where Bruce J. Richman is the author and Arny Krueger is
mentioned in
the text: 1,010.

Another search for posts where Bruce J. Richman is the author and
the
words
liar, hate monger, sociopath, or delusional appear: 609

Other searches:

Number of posts where George Middius is the author: 47,700.

Number of posts where Arny Krueger is the author: 37,900.

Number of posts where I am the author under the 3 user id's I have
had:
6,699.

What you have above is what more knowledgable people than McKelvy
call
"data dredging" or "how to lie with statistics".

To begin with, Krueger, as part of his usual attempts to ridicule and
belittle people, generally refers to people he dislikes only by their
last name. Theefore, McKelvy's phony attempt to compare Krueger's
use
of the words "Bruce J. Richman" with any other variable is
fraudulent.
Krueger generally refers to me as "Richman", not "Bruce J. Richman",
so
any word search using "Bruce J. Richman" is deliberately designed to
present misleading statistics.

McKelvy's "Google searches" are obviously skewed to promote his
agenda.
No scientific observer would draw any conclusions from them other
than
that they involve cherry picking and a transparent attempt to once
again smear one of his many opponents.

And obviously, people who post more often than McKelvy, will use just
about *any* word more often then he does. It is interesting to note
that he deliberately avoids doing data searches about the use of
terms
such as "delusional" and "conspiracy" by Krueger. We all know why.
He
wouldn't like results obtained form using Google searches on a
frequent poster like Krueger.
As usual, meaningless data from McKelvy.

In addition to the points raised above, I neglected to mention one
other very important reason why McKelvy's statistics are almost
worthless - especially when it comes to "word counts". As almost
everybody knows, posts often contain quotations from *previous* posts
in which certain words have been used. Therefore, frequency counts also
reflect the "repetition" words NOT BY THE AUTHOR BUT ONLY FROM A
PREVIOUS POST THAT IS INCLUDED. Google has no way of separating out
this variable. Once again, it's just another example of "How To Lie
With Statistics" - a practice that McKelvy has demonstrated he
endorses.

Keep dancing, you look more foolish every time.

Michael McKelvy wrote:
"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
oups.com...

Bruce J. Richman wrote:
Michael McKelvy wrote:
Just did a search looking for posts to RAO where Arny mentions
Bruce
and
where Bruce mentions Arny.

The results:

Posts where Arny is the author and the words Bruce J. Richman
are
in
the
text: 270

Posts where Bruce J. Richman is the author and Arny Krueger is
mentioned in
the text: 1,010.

Another search for posts where Bruce J. Richman is the author
and
the
words
liar, hate monger, sociopath, or delusional appear: 609

Other searches:

Number of posts where George Middius is the author: 47,700.

Number of posts where Arny Krueger is the author: 37,900.

Number of posts where I am the author under the 3 user id's I
have
had:
6,699.

What you have above is what more knowledgable people than McKelvy
call
"data dredging" or "how to lie with statistics".

To begin with, Krueger, as part of his usual attempts to ridicule
and
belittle people, generally refers to people he dislikes only by
their
last name. Theefore, McKelvy's phony attempt to compare Krueger's
use
of the words "Bruce J. Richman" with any other variable is
fraudulent.
Krueger generally refers to me as "Richman", not "Bruce J.
Richman",
so
any word search using "Bruce J. Richman" is deliberately designed
to
present misleading statistics.

McKelvy's "Google searches" are obviously skewed to promote his
agenda.
No scientific observer would draw any conclusions from them other
than
that they involve cherry picking and a transparent attempt to once
again smear one of his many opponents.

And obviously, people who post more often than McKelvy, will use
just
about *any* word more often then he does. It is interesting to
note
that he deliberately avoids doing data searches about the use of
terms
such as "delusional" and "conspiracy" by Krueger. We all know
why.
He
wouldn't like results obtained form using Google searches on a
frequent poster like Krueger.
As usual, meaningless data from McKelvy.

In addition to the points raised above, I neglected to mention one
other very important reason why McKelvy's statistics are almost
worthless - especially when it comes to "word counts". As almost
everybody knows, posts often contain quotations from *previous*
posts
in which certain words have been used. Therefore, frequency counts
also
reflect the "repetition" words NOT BY THE AUTHOR BUT ONLY FROM A
PREVIOUS POST THAT IS INCLUDED. Google has no way of separating
out
this variable. Once again, it's just another example of "How To
Lie
With Statistics" - a practice that McKelvy has demonstrated he
endorses.

Keep dancing, you look more foolish every time.

Keep trying to lie with statistics. Your stupidity is proven to more
and more people on a daily basis.

Michael McKelvy wrote:
"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
ups.com...

Michael McKelvy wrote:
Just did a search looking for posts to RAO where Arny mentions
Bruce
and
where Bruce mentions Arny.

The results:

Posts where Arny is the author and the words Bruce J. Richman are
in
the
text: 270

Posts where Bruce J. Richman is the author and Arny Krueger is
mentioned in
the text: 1,010.

Another search for posts where Bruce J. Richman is the author and
the
words
liar, hate monger, sociopath, or delusional appear: 609

Other searches:

Number of posts where George Middius is the author: 47,700.

Number of posts where Arny Krueger is the author: 37,900.

Number of posts where I am the author under the 3 user id's I have
had:
6,699.

What you have above is what more knowledgable people than McKelvy
call
"data dredging" or "how to lie with statistics".

To begin with, Krueger, as part of his usual attempts to ridicule
and
belittle people, generally refers to people he dislikes only by
their
last name. Theefore, McKelvy's phony attempt to compare Krueger's
use
of the words "Bruce J. Richman" with any other variable is
fraudulent.
Krueger generally refers to me as "Richman", not "Bruce J.
Richman", so
any word search using "Bruce J. Richman" is deliberately designed
to
present misleading statistics.

Fine, I'll do it your way, I'll search for just Richman. There was no

deliberate attempt to mislead, but you knew that.


Actually, I only know that you were attempting to lie with statistics
just like you lie about numerous other things involving Krueger and
myself. I also know that you ignorance re. statistical analysis
disqualifies you from drawing any conclusions about the bogus
statistics you tried to present.


The number of post where Arny is the author and the word Richman is
found is
388. A staggering difference.

Which has to be added to the 260 you already posted, liar. An increawe
of over 100%, liar abd fool. Just keep trying to spin the statistics
while the rest of us laugh at your obvious attempts to deceive the
public. And then we can add on other posts in which he just uses terms
like "Bruce" or "Brucie" or perhaps, in a rare moment of clarity "Dr.
Richman" (although I doubt if he ever used the last one).



McKelvy's "Google searches" are obviously skewed to promote his
agenda.

Nope, just trying to find something about who does what.


Why don't you tell us about what Krueger and Lionel do? I'm sure we'd
all be interested in your astute statistical observations. (chuckle)

Are you aware of the fact that just a simple statement such as "Arny
Krueger said" counts in your word count, even though no negative
content is involved?




No scientific observer would draw any conclusions from them other
than
that they involve cherry picking and a transparent attempt to once
again smear one of his many opponents.


Tell how a scientist would do it, do you know any?


You don't. That's for sure. Since you have probably never taken a
course in statistics, you wouldn't understand it, anyhow. You've
already gotten just a small example of how scientific approaches to
statistics work. If you want more, contact the Library of Congress or
the University of Texas at Austin and see if they'lss send you a copy
of the following document: "A Test of the Theme Interference Hypothesis
in Mental Health Consultation" by Bruce J. Richman, Ph.D.
(Doctoral Disserttaion)

or for amore simple example involving less sophisticated statistics,
contact Boston College and ssk them to send you a copy of "The John F.
Kennedy Family Service Center: An Analysis of a Multi-Service Agency"
by Bruce J. Richman (Master's Degree Thesis)

You'll find plenty of statistics, along with numerous refernces in
both.



And obviously, people who post more often than McKelvy, will use
just
about *any* word more often then he does. It is interesting to
note
that he deliberately avoids doing data searches about the use of
terms
such as "delusional" and "conspiracy" by Krueger.

OK let's try that.The number of posts where Arny is the author and
either
the word delusional or conspiracy are used is 273. You're still
ahead.

We all know why. He
wouldn't like results obtained form using Google searches on a
frequent poster like Krueger.
As usual, meaningless data from McKelvy.

As usual, hysterical rantings and delusions of omniscience from you.

McKelvy's customary, routine lies, hyperbole and idiotic statements are
hereby noted. As is alw3ays the case, he's an idiot "full of sound and
fury, signifying nothing".

Paul Dormer wrote:
"Michael McKelvy" emitted :

Fine, I'll do it your way, I'll search for just Richman. There was
no
deliberate attempt to mislead, but you knew that.

The number of post where Arny is the author and the word Richman is
found is
388. A staggering difference.

Now check again using "Rich man", "Richmand", "Reichman" and all the
permutations Krueger has used to put goons like yourself off the
scent.


S i g n a l @ l i n e o n e . n e t
-----------------------------------
It's Grim down south..

Just did a search looking for posts to RAO where Arny mentions Bruce and
where Bruce mentions Arny.

The results:

Posts where Arny is the author and the words Bruce J. Richman are in the
text: 270


A totally meaningless statistic.
I could call you a complete moron without your name ever appearing
in the post.

You are a complete moron.

A poster wrote:


Just did a search looking for posts to RAO where Arny mentions
Bruce and
where Bruce mentions Arny.

The results:

Posts where Arny is the author and the words Bruce J. Richman are
in the
text: 270


A totally meaningless statistic.
I could call you a complete moron without your name ever appearing
in the post.

You are a complete moron.

Yes, he is. The poster to whom you are responding has just gone on a
fishing expedition, and as usual, has come up empty.

Thanks, astute observer, for verifying and corroborating his lack of
knowledge about statistics.

"Clyde Slick" wrote in message

Just did a search looking for posts to RAO where Arny mentions Bruce
and where Bruce mentions Arny.

The results:

Posts where Arny is the author and the words Bruce J. Richman are in
the text: 270

A totally meaningless statistic.

Proably not. I try to ignore most of Richman's personal attacks on me. It is
simply what he does.

I could call you a complete moron without your name ever appearing
in the post.

Just because something could happen, doesn't mean that it did happen. For
example Art, you could have been born with a brain.

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Clyde Slick" wrote in message

Just did a search looking for posts to RAO where Arny mentions
Bruce
and where Bruce mentions Arny.

The results:

Posts where Arny is the author and the words Bruce J. Richman are
in
the text: 270

A totally meaningless statistic.

Proably not. I try to ignore most of Richman's personal attacks on
me. It is
simply what he does.


Prove it. McKelvy's statistics are truly meaqningless since they have
nothing to do with attacks, only word counts. OTOH, a count of the
number of attack threads started by Kruege with either my name or that
of another postrer in the title would be more indicative of what goes
on in RAO.

It's too bad that Ed Shain's classic thread was not ignored. LOL !!!!





I could call you a complete moron without your name ever appearing
in the post.

Just because something could happen, doesn't mean that it did happen.
For
example Art, you could have been born with a brain.

"Paul Dormer" wrote in message
...
"Michael McKelvy" emitted :

Fine, I'll do it your way, I'll search for just Richman. There was no
deliberate attempt to mislead, but you knew that.

The number of post where Arny is the author and the word Richman is found
is
388. A staggering difference.

Now check again using "Rich man", "Richmand", "Reichman" and all the
permutations Krueger has used to put goons like yourself off the
scent.


Go ahead. Tell us what you find.

"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
ups.com...

Paul Dormer wrote:
"Michael McKelvy" emitted :

Fine, I'll do it your way, I'll search for just Richman. There was
no
deliberate attempt to mislead, but you knew that.

The number of post where Arny is the author and the word Richman is
found is
388. A staggering difference.

Now check again using "Rich man", "Richmand", "Reichman" and all the
permutations Krueger has used to put goons like yourself off the
scent.



LOL !!! Well spoken. I'll buy off on that LOT's !!!! Thanks for
confirming that McKelvy has less brain power than an amoeba.

In addition, most of us know (excluding McKelvy) that word counts in
and of themselves mean absolutely nothiung as to the intent or content
in the author's post.

It would be much more informative, for example, to do a frequency count
of the number of attack threads started by Krueger with either my name
or that of other poster's in the title.

You still win.

And then of course, all remember the informal, yet very revealing
counting that Ed Shain did in which he listed all the difierent people
that had been in fights with Krueger in the classic thread entitled
"Have You Had A Bad Krueger Experience". You, I and many others are
among the many, many people on that list.

Yes, all the really nasty people made the list.

And that doesn't even
include more recent RAO posters that also would qualify for inclusion.

Let's see if McKelvy wants to use his "eggspurt statistishun" skills to
analyze that!!!! LOL !!!!

Where did I claim anything other than what I said the information was.
In order to have attacked you, it stands to reason that your name would be
included in the post. Very clearly he has not used your name as many times
as you have used his. It seems reasonable to assume then, that you have had
much more to say about him than he has about you. Since nearly everything
you say about Arny is negative, it also stands to reason that you have
attacked him far more than the other way round.

"Paul Dormer" wrote in message

"Michael McKelvy" emitted :

Fine, I'll do it your way, I'll search for just Richman. There was no
deliberate attempt to mislead, but you knew that.

The number of post where Arny is the author and the word Richman is
found is 388. A staggering difference.

Now check again using "Rich man", "Richmand", "Reichman" and all the
permutations Krueger has used to put goons like yourself off the
scent.

Google searching shows that I made less than 10 "rich man" posts, none of
which targeted Brucie.

Google searching shows that I made zero "richmand" posts.

Google searching shows that I made zero "reichman" posts.

Got any more red herrings, Dormer?

"Michael McKelvy" wrote in message
ink.net

Where did I claim anything other than what I said the information was.
In order to have attacked you, it stands to reason that your name
would be included in the post. Very clearly he has not used your
name as many times as you have used his. It seems reasonable to
assume then, that you have had much more to say about him than he has
about you. Since nearly everything you say about Arny is negative,
it also stands to reason that you have attacked him far more than the
other way round.

Please don't try to confuse the Middius clique with the facts. They *know*
the truth, whatever George tells them it is today.

"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
oups.com
Arny Krueger wrote:
"Clyde Slick" wrote in message

Just did a search looking for posts to RAO where Arny mentions
Bruce and where Bruce mentions Arny.

The results:

Posts where Arny is the author and the words Bruce J. Richman are
in the text: 270

A totally meaningless statistic.

Proably not. I try to ignore most of Richman's personal attacks on
me. It is simply what he does.


Prove it. McKelvy's statistics are truly meaqningless since they have
nothing to do with attacks, only word counts.

Brucie, nothing is meanqningless, since there is no such word. Nice try at
making a meaningless statement that might be true.

OTOH, a count of the
number of attack threads started by Kruege with either my name or that
of another postrer in the title would be more indicative of what goes
on in RAO.

Bruce, there is nobody who posts here by the name of Kruege. Nice try at
making another meaningless statement that might be true.

It's too bad that Ed Shain's classic thread was not ignored. LOL !!!!

It's too bad that Ed's attack thread was not ignored??????????

Do try to make sense next time, Brucie.

"Paul Dormer" wrote in message
...
"Michael McKelvy" emitted :

Fine, I'll do it your way, I'll search for just Richman. There was no
deliberate attempt to mislead, but you knew that.

The number of post where Arny is the author and the word Richman is found
is
388. A staggering difference.

Now check again using "Rich man", "Richmand", "Reichman" and all the
permutations Krueger has used to put goons like yourself off the
scent.


Empty your voice mail box.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
oups.com
Arny Krueger wrote:
"Clyde Slick" wrote in message

Just did a search looking for posts to RAO where Arny mentions
Bruce and where Bruce mentions Arny.

The results:

Posts where Arny is the author and the words Bruce J. Richman are
in the text: 270

A totally meaningless statistic.

Proably not. I try to ignore most of Richman's personal attacks on
me. It is simply what he does.


Prove it. McKelvy's statistics are truly meaqningless since they have
nothing to do with attacks, only word counts.

Brucie, nothing is meanqningless, since there is no such word. Nice try at
making a meaningless statement that might be true.

OTOH, a count of the
number of attack threads started by Kruege with either my name or that
of another postrer in the title would be more indicative of what goes
on in RAO.

Bruce, there is nobody who posts here by the name of Kruege. Nice try at
making another meaningless statement that might be true.

It's too bad that Ed Shain's classic thread was not ignored. LOL !!!!

It's too bad that Ed's attack thread was not ignored??????????

Do try to make sense next time, Brucie.


Good thing he's not a real Doctor who write prescriptions.

Michael McKelvy wrote:
"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
ups.com...

Paul Dormer wrote:
"Michael McKelvy" emitted :

Fine, I'll do it your way, I'll search for just Richman. There
was
no
deliberate attempt to mislead, but you knew that.

The number of post where Arny is the author and the word Richman
is
found is
388. A staggering difference.

Now check again using "Rich man", "Richmand", "Reichman" and all
the
permutations Krueger has used to put goons like yourself off the
scent.



LOL !!! Well spoken. I'll buy off on that LOT's !!!! Thanks for
confirming that McKelvy has less brain power than an amoeba.

In addition, most of us know (excluding McKelvy) that word counts
in
and of themselves mean absolutely nothiung as to the intent or
content
in the author's post.

It would be much more informative, for example, to do a frequency
count
of the number of attack threads started by Krueger with either my
name
or that of other poster's in the title.

You still win.

Bull****. You're lying again.


And then of course, all remember the informal, yet very revealing
counting that Ed Shain did in which he listed all the difierent
people
that had been in fights with Krueger in the classic thread entitled
"Have You Had A Bad Krueger Experience". You, I and many others
are
among the many, many people on that list.

Yes, all the really nasty people made the list.

Bull****. All the people that Krueger has attacked made the list. And
iut continues to grow.



And that doesn't even
include more recent RAO posters that also would qualify for
inclusion.

Let's see if McKelvy wants to use his "eggspurt statistishun"
skills to
analyze that!!!! LOL !!!!

Where did I claim anything other than what I said the information
was.
In order to have attacked you, it stands to reason that your name
would be
included in the post. Very clearly he has not used your name as many
times
as you have used his. It seems reasonable to assume then, that you
have had
much more to say about him than he has about you. Since nearly
everything
you say about Arny is negative, it also stands to reason that you
have
attacked him far more than the other way round.


Your statistics prove nothing, as I and several other posters have
already shown. They are also misleading and not presented in a way
that accounts for how word counts are really derived.

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Michael McKelvy" wrote in message
ink.net

Where did I claim anything other than what I said the information
was.
In order to have attacked you, it stands to reason that your name
would be included in the post. Very clearly he has not used your
name as many times as you have used his. It seems reasonable to
assume then, that you have had much more to say about him than he
has
about you. Since nearly everything you say about Arny is negative,
it also stands to reason that you have attacked him far more than
the
other way round.

Please don't try to confuse the Middius clique with the facts. They
*know*
the truth, whatever George tells them it is today.

And the proof for any of this nonsense is where, exactly?

McKelvy's statistics contain no facts, just numbers derived from data
dredging and selective searches that fail to account for how word
counts are really derived.

Michael McKelvy wrote:
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
oups.com
Arny Krueger wrote:
"Clyde Slick" wrote in message

Just did a search looking for posts to RAO where Arny mentions
Bruce and where Bruce mentions Arny.

The results:

Posts where Arny is the author and the words Bruce J. Richman
are
in the text: 270

A totally meaningless statistic.

Proably not. I try to ignore most of Richman's personal attacks
on
me. It is simply what he does.


Prove it. McKelvy's statistics are truly meaqningless since they
have
nothing to do with attacks, only word counts.

Brucie, nothing is meanqningless, since there is no such word. Nice
try at
making a meaningless statement that might be true.

OTOH, a count of the
number of attack threads started by Kruege with either my name or
that
of another postrer in the title would be more indicative of what
goes
on in RAO.

Bruce, there is nobody who posts here by the name of Kruege. Nice
try at
making another meaningless statement that might be true.

It's too bad that Ed Shain's classic thread was not ignored. LOL
!!!!

It's too bad that Ed's attack thread was not ignored??????????

Do try to make sense next time, Brucie.


Try and read between the lines, Arnie. I realize your comprehension
skills are seriously limited, so I'll spell it out for you. Over 900
responses to the thread entitled "Have You Had A Bad Krueger
Experience".



Good thing he's not a real Doctor who write prescriptions.

You're not a real person who knows what he's talking about.
Psychologist already have prescribing privileges in both New Mexico and
Luisiana, with many more states lining up to grant psychologists
prescribing privileges. Also nurse practitioners are not "real
doctors", but have prescribing privileges.

Thanks for once again exhibiting your ignorance about psychologtists.
Thanks also for making a fool of yourself in your desperate attempt to
launch an other unprovoked personal attack.

Thanks for lying about psychologistz. Try and tell people it was just
an opinion, you lying scumbag.

LOL !!!!!

Arny Krueger wrote:


"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
roups.com
Arny Krueger wrote:
"Clyde Slick" wrote in message

Just did a search looking for posts to RAO where Arny mentions
Bruce and where Bruce mentions Arny.

The results:

Posts where Arny is the author and the words Bruce J. Richman are
in the text: 270

A totally meaningless statistic.

Proably not. I try to ignore most of Richman's personal attacks on
me. It is simply what he does.


Prove it. McKelvy's statistics are truly meaqningless since they have
nothing to do with attacks, only word counts.

Brucie, nothing is meanqningless, since there is no such word. Nice try at
making a meaningless statement that might be true.

OTOH, a count of the
number of attack threads started by Kruege with either my name or that
of another postrer in the title would be more indicative of what goes
on in RAO.

Bruce, there is nobody who posts here by the name of Kruege. Nice try at
making another meaningless statement that might be true.

It's too bad that Ed Shain's classic thread was not ignored. LOL !!!!

It's too bad that Ed's attack thread was not ignored??????????

Do try to make sense next time, Brucie.










Nice attempt to use typographical errors as a dodge to avoid responsibility for
the fact that Ed Shain's post entitled "Have You Had A Bad Krueger Experience?"
contains the names of numerous individuals that you have attacked, Krueger. (I
added the last word, so that the statistics "expert", D.M., would have more
data for his "word count:").

Poor attempt to cover up McKelvy's silly post about Google word counts in which
all he demonstrated was that he doesn't understand statistics.


Bruce J. Richman

"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
oups.com...

Michael McKelvy wrote:
"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
ups.com...

Paul Dormer wrote:
"Michael McKelvy" emitted :

Fine, I'll do it your way, I'll search for just Richman. There
was
no
deliberate attempt to mislead, but you knew that.

The number of post where Arny is the author and the word Richman
is
found is
388. A staggering difference.

Now check again using "Rich man", "Richmand", "Reichman" and all
the
permutations Krueger has used to put goons like yourself off the
scent.



LOL !!! Well spoken. I'll buy off on that LOT's !!!! Thanks for
confirming that McKelvy has less brain power than an amoeba.

In addition, most of us know (excluding McKelvy) that word counts
in
and of themselves mean absolutely nothiung as to the intent or
content
in the author's post.

It would be much more informative, for example, to do a frequency
count
of the number of attack threads started by Krueger with either my
name
or that of other poster's in the title.

You still win.

Bull****. You're lying again.

Not when it comes to attacks of you aganst him and him aganst you.


And then of course, all remember the informal, yet very revealing
counting that Ed Shain did in which he listed all the difierent
people
that had been in fights with Krueger in the classic thread entitled
"Have You Had A Bad Krueger Experience". You, I and many others
are
among the many, many people on that list.

Yes, all the really nasty people made the list.

Bull****. All the people that Krueger has attacked made the list. And
iut continues to grow.

Prove it.

And that doesn't even
include more recent RAO posters that also would qualify for
inclusion.

Let's see if McKelvy wants to use his "eggspurt statistishun"
skills to
analyze that!!!! LOL !!!!

Where did I claim anything other than what I said the information
was.
In order to have attacked you, it stands to reason that your name
would be
included in the post. Very clearly he has not used your name as many
times
as you have used his. It seems reasonable to assume then, that you
have had
much more to say about him than he has about you. Since nearly
everything
you say about Arny is negative, it also stands to reason that you
have
attacked him far more than the other way round.


Your statistics prove nothing, as I and several other posters have
already shown.

You've shown again that you can't deal with the facts.

They are also misleading and not presented in a way
that accounts for how word counts are really derived.

Did I say they were more than mere numbers? Did I say they had any
significance? Did I say they proved you were doing anything other than what
the number said? No. I simply wanted to get an idea of who was posting the
most and using certain words. Clearly you have the lead in some areas.
Aren't you proud?

"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
...
Arny Krueger wrote:


"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
groups.com
Arny Krueger wrote:
"Clyde Slick" wrote in message

Just did a search looking for posts to RAO where Arny mentions
Bruce and where Bruce mentions Arny.

The results:

Posts where Arny is the author and the words Bruce J. Richman are
in the text: 270

A totally meaningless statistic.

Proably not. I try to ignore most of Richman's personal attacks on
me. It is simply what he does.


Prove it. McKelvy's statistics are truly meaqningless since they have
nothing to do with attacks, only word counts.

Brucie, nothing is meanqningless, since there is no such word. Nice try at
making a meaningless statement that might be true.

OTOH, a count of the
number of attack threads started by Kruege with either my name or that
of another postrer in the title would be more indicative of what goes
on in RAO.

Bruce, there is nobody who posts here by the name of Kruege. Nice try at
making another meaningless statement that might be true.

It's too bad that Ed Shain's classic thread was not ignored. LOL !!!!

It's too bad that Ed's attack thread was not ignored??????????

Do try to make sense next time, Brucie.










Nice attempt to use typographical errors as a dodge to avoid
responsibility for
the fact that Ed Shain's post entitled "Have You Had A Bad Krueger
Experience?"
contains the names of numerous individuals that you have attacked,
Krueger. (I
added the last word, so that the statistics "expert", D.M., would have
more
data for his "word count:").

Poor attempt to cover up McKelvy's silly post about Google word counts in
which
all he demonstrated was that he doesn't understand statistics.



Poor attempt to spin a word count into a statistical analysis.

Paul Dormer wrote:
"Arny Krueger" emitted :

Please don't try to confuse the Middius clique with the facts. They
*know*
the truth, whatever George tells them it is today.

The conspiracy theory deepens... ;-)




Yep. Paranoia tends to expand over time.



S i g n a l @ l i n e o n e . n e t
-----------------------------------
It's Grim down south..

Bruce J. Richman wrote:


Paul Dormer wrote:
"Arny Krueger" emitted :

Please don't try to confuse the Middius clique with the facts. They
*know*
the truth, whatever George tells them it is today.

The conspiracy theory deepens... ;-)




Yep. Paranoia tends to expand over time.

You are the daily sad proof of this statement. ;-)

Paul Dormer wrote:
"George M. Middius" emitted :

whatever George tells them it is today.

The conspiracy theory deepens... ;-)

I have to say I'm nonplussed at the lack of obedience by my "dupe"
Bruce.
It's so distressing when my vaunted mind-control powers turn out to
be
more theoretical than actual.

Have to agree with you there Bruce.


Me too, Clyde.






S i g n a l @ l i n e o n e . n e t
-----------------------------------
It's Grim down south..

Lionel wrote:
Bruce J. Richman wrote:


Paul Dormer wrote:
"Arny Krueger" emitted :

Please don't try to confuse the Middius clique with the facts.
They
*know*
the truth, whatever George tells them it is today.

The conspiracy theory deepens... ;-)




Yep. Paranoia tends to expand over time.

You are the daily sad proof of this statement. ;-)


And you're an idiot who doesn't know what he's taliing about - as
usual.

"Paul Dormer" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" emitted :

Fine, I'll do it your way, I'll search for just Richman. There was
no deliberate attempt to mislead, but you knew that.

The number of post where Arny is the author and the word Richman is
found is 388. A staggering difference.

Now check again using "Rich man", "Richmand", "Reichman" and all the
permutations Krueger has used to put goons like yourself off the
scent.

Google searching shows that I made less than 10 "rich man" posts,
none of which targeted Brucie.

Google searching shows that I made zero "richmand" posts.

Google searching shows that I made zero "reichman" posts.

Got any more red herrings, Dormer?

They were examples, idiot.

Sorry to suggest that your comments had anything to do with reality, Dormer.
Got any new fantasies you want to present as truth?

Michael McKelvy wrote:



Another search for posts where Bruce J. Richman is the author and the
words
liar, hate monger, sociopath, or delusional appear: 609


Let's not forget "liar". "sockpuppet" and "character assassination":
http://tinyurl.com/4ayl5

Enjoy!! ;-)

wrote:
Michael McKelvy wrote:



Another search for posts where Bruce J. Richman is the author and
the
words
liar, hate monger, sociopath, or delusional appear: 609


Let's not forget "liar". "sockpuppet" and "character assassination":
http://tinyurl.com/4ayl5

Enjoy!! ;-)


So now we have a crazy sockpuppet bragging about his delusional attack
threads. Does anybody believe this nameless imbecile? Those that do
line up for the next space ship to the Twilight Zone.

With attackers like this, the likelihood of anybody believeing anything
they say is next to zero.


ROFLMAO !!!!!

Michael McKelvy wrote:
"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
...
Arny Krueger wrote:


"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
groups.com
Arny Krueger wrote:
"Clyde Slick" wrote in message

Just did a search looking for posts to RAO where Arny mentions
Bruce and where Bruce mentions Arny.

The results:

Posts where Arny is the author and the words Bruce J. Richman
are
in the text: 270

A totally meaningless statistic.

Proably not. I try to ignore most of Richman's personal attacks
on
me. It is simply what he does.


Prove it. McKelvy's statistics are truly meaqningless since they
have
nothing to do with attacks, only word counts.

Brucie, nothing is meanqningless, since there is no such word. Nice
try at
making a meaningless statement that might be true.

OTOH, a count of the
number of attack threads started by Kruege with either my name or
that
of another postrer in the title would be more indicative of what
goes
on in RAO.

Bruce, there is nobody who posts here by the name of Kruege. Nice
try at
making another meaningless statement that might be true.

It's too bad that Ed Shain's classic thread was not ignored. LOL
!!!!

It's too bad that Ed's attack thread was not ignored??????????

Do try to make sense next time, Brucie.










Nice attempt to use typographical errors as a dodge to avoid
responsibility for
the fact that Ed Shain's post entitled "Have You Had A Bad Krueger
Experience?"
contains the names of numerous individuals that you have attacked,
Krueger. (I
added the last word, so that the statistics "expert", D.M., would
have
more
data for his "word count:").

Poor attempt to cover up McKelvy's silly post about Google word
counts in
which
all he demonstrated was that he doesn't understand statistics.



Poor attempt to spin a word count into a statistical analysis.

No evidence of any statistical analysis by you and no comments made
about it by me. You simply posted mislkeading statistics based on
inadequate search methods, ignored word counts that would not fit your
agenda, and then tried in later posts, to claim that your "statistics"
showed attack frequencies.

A;; of this playing with numbers and drawing conclusions by you, was,
of course as phony as your usual statements.

Poor attempt by you to distort and misrepresent what I actually said
noted.

Poor attempt to avoid criticism and take responsibility for sloppy word
count methods designed to promote your agenda noted.

Michael McKelvy wrote:


Number of posts where I am the author under the 3 user id's I have had:
6,699.

One of your posts is equal to a half a dozen of the others in
terms of bull, so I see no real difference.

Joseph Oberlander wrote:
Michael McKelvy wrote:


Number of posts where I am the author under the 3 user id's I have
had:
6,699.

One of your posts is equal to a half a dozen of the others in
terms of bull, so I see no real difference.


LOL !!!

Joseph Oberlander wrote:
Michael McKelvy wrote:


Number of posts where I am the author under the 3 user id's I have
had:
6,699.

One of your posts is equal to a half a dozen of the others in
terms of bull, so I see no real difference.
Not bull, just "opinions".


LOL !!!!

Arny Krueger wrote:

"Paul Dormer" wrote in message


"Michael McKelvy" emitted :


Fine, I'll do it your way, I'll search for just Richman. There was no
deliberate attempt to mislead, but you knew that.

The number of post where Arny is the author and the word Richman is
found is 388. A staggering difference.

Now check again using "Rich man", "Richmand", "Reichman" and all the
permutations Krueger has used to put goons like yourself off the
scent.


Google searching shows that I made less than 10 "rich man" posts, none of
which targeted Brucie.

Google searching shows that I made zero "richmand" posts.

Google searching shows that I made zero "reichman" posts.

Got any more red herrings, Dormer?



How's about "BJ" ?

"Paul Dormer" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" emitted :

Fine, I'll do it your way, I'll search for just Richman. There
was no deliberate attempt to mislead, but you knew that.

The number of post where Arny is the author and the word Richman
is found is 388. A staggering difference.

Now check again using "Rich man", "Richmand", "Reichman" and all
the permutations Krueger has used to put goons like yourself off
the scent.

Google searching shows that I made less than 10 "rich man" posts,
none of which targeted Brucie.

Google searching shows that I made zero "richmand" posts.

Google searching shows that I made zero "reichman" posts.

Got any more red herrings, Dormer?

They were examples, idiot.

Sorry to suggest that your comments had anything to do with reality,
Dormer. Got any new fantasies you want to present as truth?

My comments have *everything* to do with reality.

Well, your reality, Dormer. You know the one where it was I that trashed
your hard drive, not your overclocked CPU.

It is an obserbalbve
fact that you oftentimes "accidently on purpose.." refer to a person
using an incorrect spelling of their name.

Let's see Dormer, in your reality obserbalbve isn't a misspelled word,
right? And this isn't a gross exagerration, right?

I could not recall the various permutations you have used over the
years when referring to Bruce Richman, but feel free to wade through
the hundreds of thousands of posts you have made to find them...

Your posting envy isn't my problem, Dormer.

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:17:00 -0500, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:

Let's see Dormer, in your reality obserbalbve isn't a misspelled word,
right? And this isn't a gross exagerration, right?

Lets see Krueger, in your reality exagerration isn't a misspelled
word, right?

dave weil said:

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:17:00 -0500, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:

Let's see Dormer, in your reality obserbalbve isn't a misspelled word,
right? And this isn't a gross exagerration, right?

Lets see Krueger, in your reality exagerration isn't a misspelled
word, right?

Let's see Weil, in your reality "lets" isn't a misspelled word, right?
( Unless it refers to people from Letland of course.)


Sorry, couldn't resist.

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "