All morning long - It's hilarious to watch Fox talk about bias! LOL

Fox is a joke and is trying to drag real news networks down to their level.

Remember, Fox isn't news. It's right-wing infotainment.

Altasrecrd wrote:
All morning long - It's hilarious to watch Fox talk about bias! LOL

Fox is a joke and is trying to drag real news networks down to their
level.

Remember, Fox isn't news. It's right-wing infotainment.


On the morning of jan 10th 2004? jesus that's a bit late.

I was amazed that when i was working at a CBS station, we had people
protesting Dan Rather outside. but that was back in September.
I talked to these "protesters" and they seemed like zombies.

Well, it's a shame that a network like CBS totally abandoned any semblance
of objective journalism and made themselves such a parody that they are
assailable in this way.

There is no longer any objective news reporting by *any* network. It's all
sensationalism and agenda now. The only reason that the other networks
haven't started ripping CBS is that their blood is in the water too.


"Altasrecrd" wrote in message
...

All morning long - It's hilarious to watch Fox talk about bias! LOL

Fox is a joke and is trying to drag real news networks down to their
level.

Remember, Fox isn't news. It's right-wing infotainment.

Hey here's an idea:

DON'T WATCH IT!!

"Altasrecrd" wrote in message
...

All morning long - It's hilarious to watch Fox talk about bias! LOL

Fox is a joke and is trying to drag real news networks down to their
level.

Remember, Fox isn't news. It's right-wing infotainment.

Iain Fraser wrote:
Hey here's an idea:

DON'T WATCH IT!!

Well, that's basically the problem. Where CAN someone watch?

I actually saw Fox News for the first time ever, last week with the news
of the tsunami. I thought the coverage was pretty terrible, in part because
they really provided no background information at all. They didn't talk about
the geography, they didn't have lots of nifty maps showing where the epicenter
was and where the shock waves travelled. They really provided very little
information about the actual disaster, just about the results of it.

It also had a somewhat condescending attitude about American injuries and
fatalities there being more worthy of coverage than everyone else, which is
why I assume there was so much attention paid to places like Phuket.

Of course, I didn't see any of the other TV networks at the time, so I don't
know if they are just as bad or even worse. But I was very disappointed in
the completeness and depth Fox coverage. I want Uncle Walter back.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Scott Dorsey wrote:

Of course, I didn't see any of the other TV networks at the time, so I don't
know if they are just as bad or even worse. But I was very disappointed in
the completeness and depth Fox coverage. I want Uncle Walter back.

Fox is the TV version of the tabloids. Think 'The Star', 'The Globe'
etc. They highlight people's misery, they think that is all people want
to see. I dunno, maybe they're right.

Scott Dorsey wrote:
Iain Fraser wrote:
Hey here's an idea:

DON'T WATCH IT!!

Well, that's basically the problem. Where CAN someone watch?

PBS is a good start. Having gotten rid of our TV a few months ago, I
don't know if their coverage was any better than anyone else's.

I actually saw Fox News for the first time ever, last week with the
news of the tsunami. I thought the coverage was pretty terrible, in
part because they really provided no background information at all.
They didn't talk about the geography, they didn't have lots of nifty
maps showing where the epicenter was and where the shock waves
travelled. They really provided very little information about the
actual disaster, just about the results of it.

Given that the average American's grasp of (and interest in) geography
doesn't extend much beyond the route to the nearest McDonald's or
Wal-Mart, maybe they understand their audience all too well.

It also had a somewhat condescending attitude about American injuries
and fatalities there being more worthy of coverage than everyone
else, which is why I assume there was so much attention paid to
places like Phuket.

I was in England when it happened, and the BBC, iTV, and Sky News all
had the same bias toward Brits. All three networks *did* have a lot of
maps and seemed to expect that their viewers knew where these places
are. I think the early coverage from Phuket was a natural result of the
networks having assets in the area. British news was mostly from that
area for the first day or two.

Of course, I didn't see any of the other TV networks at the time, so
I don't know if they are just as bad or even worse. But I was very
disappointed in the completeness and depth Fox coverage. I want
Uncle Walter back.
Indeed -- he was The Voice of Truth Unassailable.

Cheers,
-DrBoom

That's bull****. Every station is that way.


"Joe Sensor" wrote in message
...
Scott Dorsey wrote:

Of course, I didn't see any of the other TV networks at the time, so I
don't
know if they are just as bad or even worse. But I was very disappointed
in
the completeness and depth Fox coverage. I want Uncle Walter back.

Fox is the TV version of the tabloids. Think 'The Star', 'The Globe' etc.
They highlight people's misery, they think that is all people want to see.
I dunno, maybe they're right.

Am I the only one tired of reading all of the political views, opinions
of non audio topics, etc. in an audio newsgroup? Please take your
political views to another forum. I'm not saying that audio people
shouldn't have views etc. to express, just do it in another forum. This
is suppose to be audio. Nobody gives a **** how smart you think you are
or that you can do a job better than the President etc in here.
Aaron Householter
studio1117

Altasrecrd wrote: "Fox can't shut up about CBS"

The question is why can't YOU shut up about it on RAP? Or shut up
about politics, or shut up about Fox News? Are you are prosyletizing
or just jerking off?

There really is no defensable reason for you to try to paper over
RAP with these kinds of threads.

Will Miho
NY Music & TV Audio Guy
Staff Audio / Fox News / M-AES
"The large print giveth and the fine print taketh away..."
Tom Waits

Iain Fraser wrote:

That's bull****. Every station is that way.

To some extent, I agree. But Fox is a most extreme example.

I mean how long were they dedicated to the Scott Peterson trial 24/7?
Pathetic.

And the others were not?

Come on



"Joe Sensor" wrote in message
...
Iain Fraser wrote:

That's bull****. Every station is that way.

To some extent, I agree. But Fox is a most extreme example.

I mean how long were they dedicated to the Scott Peterson trial 24/7?
Pathetic.

CBS reported that the investigation was concluded and four producers
involved in the original reports were either fired or asked to resign. The
commission doing the investigating did not indicate the network was guilty
of bias, but they were guilty of poor journalistic practice in the "rush to
air" the report before confirming the authenticity of the doucments in
question.

Reminds me of NBC's rigging that pickup truck to explode a few years ago in
an "investigation" of GM pickup trucks' side-mounted fuel tanks.

"nmm" wrote in message
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Altasrecrd wrote:
All morning long - It's hilarious to watch Fox talk about bias! LOL

Fox is a joke and is trying to drag real news networks down to their
level.

Remember, Fox isn't news. It's right-wing infotainment.


On the morning of jan 10th 2004? jesus that's a bit late.

I was amazed that when i was working at a CBS station, we had people
protesting Dan Rather outside. but that was back in September.
I talked to these "protesters" and they seemed like zombies.

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
CBS reported that the investigation was concluded and four producers
involved in the original reports were either fired or asked to resign. The
commission doing the investigating did not indicate the network was guilty
of bias, but they were guilty of poor journalistic practice in the "rush to
air" the report before confirming the authenticity of the doucments in
question.

Reminds me of NBC's rigging that pickup truck to explode a few years ago in
an "investigation" of GM pickup trucks' side-mounted fuel tanks.


It reminds me the GW dodged his cushy assignment while JK was being shot
at and saving lives in vietnam
george

WillStG wrote:
Altasrecrd wrote: "Fox can't shut up about CBS"

The question is why can't YOU shut up about it on RAP? Or shut up
about politics, or shut up about Fox News? Are you are prosyletizing
or just jerking off?

There really is no defensable reason for you to try to paper over
RAP with these kinds of threads.

Just trying to create a "Fair and balanced' rebuttal to all your america
hateing right wing bull****
George

Iain Fraser wrote:

And the others were not?

Come on

Nope. They spent a fraction of the time that Fox spent.






"Joe Sensor" wrote in message
...

Iain Fraser wrote:


That's bull****. Every station is that way.

To some extent, I agree. But Fox is a most extreme example.

I mean how long were they dedicated to the Scott Peterson trial 24/7?
Pathetic.

"George Gleason" wrote in message
...
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:

Reminds me of NBC's rigging that pickup truck to explode a few years ago
in
an "investigation" of GM pickup trucks' side-mounted fuel tanks.


It reminds me the GW dodged his cushy assignment while JK was being shot
at and saving lives in vietnam
george

Well, yeah, that too :-)

I love it when ppl say stuff they don't really know.

"Joe Sensor" wrote in message
...
Iain Fraser wrote:

And the others were not?

Come on

Nope. They spent a fraction of the time that Fox spent.






"Joe Sensor" wrote in message
...

Iain Fraser wrote:


That's bull****. Every station is that way.

To some extent, I agree. But Fox is a most extreme example.

I mean how long were they dedicated to the Scott Peterson trial 24/7?
Pathetic.

On 10 Jan 2005 12:52:19 -0500, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

Iain Fraser wrote:
Hey here's an idea:

DON'T WATCH IT!!

Well, that's basically the problem. Where CAN someone watch?

The internet...

Al

On 10 Jan 2005 11:30:28 -0800, "WillStG" wrote:

Altasrecrd wrote: "Fox can't shut up about CBS"

The question is why can't YOU shut up about it on RAP? Or shut up
about politics, or shut up about Fox News? Are you are prosyletizing
or just jerking off?

There really is no defensable reason for you to try to paper over
RAP with these kinds of threads.

Maybe he just is trolling for guys like you who can always be counted
on rise to the bait and extend the thread.

Brad Fit

I screwed up my back this morning shovelling 891203467.67 tons of snow off
our drive and decks so I spent the day watching TV in my easy chair
(Felxeril, ice packs and heatpacks onboard) and decided to watch the news
channels for a while, just to see if this thread had any real legs.

By far, the most coverage given to this story was on MSNBC and I mean wayyyy
more than anyone else.. All of the channels blathered about it way too much
but Fox no more than others.

I always wonder about folks who are so fascinated with something they
disagree with that they becme obsessed with it to the point of (at least
temporary) insanity and therefore end up becoming exactly like the evil
thing they purport to dislike so much.

I'm with the poster here who suggested NPR. I listen to it in the mornings.
I think it's a pretty good way to get a handle on the basics and though it
too seems sometimes biased, it hasn't lost it's sense of credibility..

Doug Joyce
Animix Productions
Durango Colorado (buried under the snow somewhere)


"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
...
Iain Fraser wrote:
Hey here's an idea:

DON'T WATCH IT!!

Well, that's basically the problem. Where CAN someone watch?

I actually saw Fox News for the first time ever, last week with the news
of the tsunami. I thought the coverage was pretty terrible, in part
because
they really provided no background information at all. They didn't talk
about
the geography, they didn't have lots of nifty maps showing where the
epicenter
was and where the shock waves travelled. They really provided very little
information about the actual disaster, just about the results of it.

It also had a somewhat condescending attitude about American injuries and
fatalities there being more worthy of coverage than everyone else, which
is
why I assume there was so much attention paid to places like Phuket.

Of course, I didn't see any of the other TV networks at the time, so I
don't
know if they are just as bad or even worse. But I was very disappointed
in
the completeness and depth Fox coverage. I want Uncle Walter back.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:04:24 GMT, "Iain Fraser"
wrote:

That's bull****. Every station is that way. snip

In various degrees. In the past, the Big 3 networks shied away from
sensationalism and stuck to core journalism. In the last 15 years or
so, however, sensationalism started creeping into their network
broadcasts incrementally. I'd say it got a lot worse when Faux showed
up, because of their ratings spike, causing brass from the others to
follow suit...after all, ratings are profit.

This is a good point to interject that if you want and absence of this
garbage, you do have two choices...PBS and the BBC, both being freed
from the constraits of "profitability."

dB

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:11:14 GMT, "Iain Fraser"
wrote:

And the others were not? snip

Faux was indeed the worst, sinking to a level most associated with
Jerry Springer. However, don't let CNN or the networs, OR their
affiliates off the hook, either. The Peterson coverage was, in a
word, excessive, exacerbated by the verdict.

dB

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:34:59 -0330, Pat Janes
wrote:

The coverage on BBC World was excellent. snip

It is probably the most credible English language television/radio
news service extant.

dB

On 10 Jan 2005 11:30:28 -0800, "WillStG" wrote:

The question is why can't YOU shut up about it on RAP? Or shut up
about politics, or shut up about Fox News? Are you are prosyletizing
or just jerking off?

There really is no defensable reason for you to try to paper over
RAP with these kinds of threads. snip

Yes, there is...after all, YOU were the one that started all this Faux
crap. Maybe now you'll STFU.'

dB

I thought that this whole slide into mediocrity happened when the News
divisions of the networks increasingly came me under the control of the
Entertainment Division(s), correct?

dave


"DeserTBoB" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:04:24 GMT, "Iain Fraser"
wrote:

That's bull****. Every station is that way. snip

In various degrees. In the past, the Big 3 networks shied away from
sensationalism and stuck to core journalism. In the last 15 years or
so, however, sensationalism started creeping into their network
broadcasts incrementally. I'd say it got a lot worse when Faux showed
up, because of their ratings spike, causing brass from the others to
follow suit...after all, ratings are profit.

This is a good point to interject that if you want and absence of this
garbage, you do have two choices...PBS and the BBC, both being freed
from the constraits of "profitability."

dB

It reminds me the GW dodged his cushy assignment while JK was being shot
at and saving lives in vietnam
george

Well, yeah, that too :-)


That's the real story.

Talk ****ing audio or don't type in this newsgroup ass clowns. You guys
wanna talk politics like a couple of uninformed, high school debaters
do it somewhere else. The name of this group is REC.AUDIO.PRO not
dumb****s.discussing.other.****

It's bad enough when the occasional ad gets in here or some dumb ****
starts a flame war that goes on waaaaayyyy toooo loooong, So cut the
crap.
Aaron Householter
studio1117

DING DING!!

"Dave" wrote in message
...
I thought that this whole slide into mediocrity happened when the News
divisions of the networks increasingly came me under the control of the
Entertainment Division(s), correct?

dave


"DeserTBoB" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:04:24 GMT, "Iain Fraser"
wrote:

That's bull****. Every station is that way. snip

In various degrees. In the past, the Big 3 networks shied away from
sensationalism and stuck to core journalism. In the last 15 years or
so, however, sensationalism started creeping into their network
broadcasts incrementally. I'd say it got a lot worse when Faux showed
up, because of their ratings spike, causing brass from the others to
follow suit...after all, ratings are profit.

This is a good point to interject that if you want and absence of this
garbage, you do have two choices...PBS and the BBC, both being freed
from the constraits of "profitability."

dB

--

Somewhere in Texas, a village is missing its idiot.
wrote in message
oups.com...
Talk ****ing audio or don't type in this newsgroup ass clowns. You guys
wanna talk politics like a couple of uninformed, high school debaters
do it somewhere else. The name of this group is REC.AUDIO.PRO not
dumb****s.discussing.other.****

It's bad enough when the occasional ad gets in here or some dumb ****
starts a flame war that goes on waaaaayyyy toooo loooong, So cut the
crap.
Aaron Householter
studio1117


I take it you haven't been around here long.

Ya know Bob.........I was channel surfing while ago and saw a particularly
****ed-off looking Alan Colmes as I scrolled through so I backed up and
landed there. Bernard Goldberg was lecturing Alan Colmes about something or
another as relates to the CBS thing and so I hung around to watch the
fireworks. Well guess who was up next. Newtie Gingrich and you know
what???.....he's come out with a new contract for America, he's going to be
canvassing Iowa and New Hampshire pretty soon with his *new philosophy*, is
hoping that *both* parties will take it to heart, but just in case it is not
taken to heart after his own fashion, he's not ruling out a run for
president. He's probably going to get some major traction too. You brought
this **** on yourselves and the rest of us.


"DeserTBoB" wrote in message
...
On 10 Jan 2005 11:30:28 -0800, "WillStG" wrote:

The question is why can't YOU shut up about it on RAP? Or shut up
about politics, or shut up about Fox News? Are you are prosyletizing
or just jerking off?

There really is no defensable reason for you to try to paper over
RAP with these kinds of threads. snip

Yes, there is...after all, YOU were the one that started all this Faux
crap. Maybe now you'll STFU.'

dB

"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
...
Iain Fraser wrote:
Hey here's an idea:

DON'T WATCH IT!!

Well, that's basically the problem. Where CAN someone watch?

The most consistantly balanced news I've ever watched on a regular basis was
the BBC, even on American politics.

Sean

And you-all can't shut up about Fox.
Pot? Kettle? Black?

"Iain Fraser" wrote
Remember, Fox isn't news. It's right-wing infotainment.

Does that make CNN, et.al. left-wing propatainment?

Richard Crowley wrote:

"Iain Fraser" wrote

Remember, Fox isn't news. It's right-wing infotainment.


Does that make CNN, et.al. left-wing propatainment?


Hmmm, good point. It ain't right-wing info-anything.

George Gleason wrote:
Just trying to create a "Fair and balanced' rebuttal to all your
america
hateing right wing bull****

That might be true if I was papering over RAP with posts crowing
over CBS's comeuppance. But there aren't any, are there George, just
more left wing BS from "Atlasrecrd" who has to "remind" people to hate
my employer, Gee, a guy making death threat posts against my kid
called that a "reminder" too. How about that?

So I call bull**** George on you making excuses for "Atlasrecrd",
who is quite prolific with the same kind of tripe on alt.politics. Even
his buddies on the alt.assasination.jfk and alt/conspiracy/jfk groups
seem to think Matt our Chicago Boy is a bit unhinged.

And if he's gonna steal Nathan Eldred's handle (Atlasrec), he
should at least sign his own name.

Will Miho
NY Music and TV Audio Guy
Staff Audio / Fox News / M-AES
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..."
Tom Waits

WillStG wrote:
George Gleason wrote:

Just trying to create a "Fair and balanced' rebuttal to all your

america

hateing right wing bull****


That might be true if I was papering over RAP with posts crowing
over CBS's comeuppance. But there aren't any, are there George, just
more left wing BS from "Atlasrecrd" who has to "remind" people to hate
my employer, Gee, a guy making death threat posts against my kid
called that a "reminder" too. How about that?

So I call bull**** George on you making excuses for "Atlasrecrd",
who is quite prolific with the same kind of tripe on alt.politics. Even
his buddies on the alt.assasination.jfk and alt/conspiracy/jfk groups
seem to think Matt our Chicago Boy is a bit unhinged.

And if he's gonna steal Nathan Eldred's handle (Atlasrec), he
should at least sign his own name.

Will Miho
NY Music and TV Audio Guy
Staff Audio / Fox News / M-AES
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..."
Tom Waits


Will you need to ask the others why they post what they do
also notice I neither wished you a burrito or having your head chopped off
I spoke for myself only
You post "I Hate america rightwing agenda" I balance with lets make
America great ideas
I call bull**** on your posts.
George

Don Cooper wrote:
It reminds me the GW dodged his cushy assignment while JK was
being shot
at and saving lives in vietnam
george

Well, yeah, that too :-)


That's the real story.


And that as why the CBS story happened. It was Bush campaign strategy.
Attack On the Strong points.
That's why we have the Swift Boat Liars, who had to legally distance
themselves from the Bush people, even though that was where their money
was coming from. Bush used a similar strategy against John McCain in
the 2000 primaries; claiming McCain collaberated with the enemy.


The CBS story was an absolute set up. Rather being somewhat farcicle,
and CBS having a longtime feud with the Bush family; Since Cronkite
confronted Bush 41 about CIA agents should be posing as reporters. So
the backroom Bush campaign set the whole thing up, to take attention
away from the real issue. Bush was AWOL when in the guard, and lost his
Pilot's status due to Drug testing. Bush still hasn't released the
"Record Of the Flight Examiner" because that would either clear him, or
convict him on these charges. I think he would have released it if he
were to be cleared.



And where is the investigation into the leaking of the names of CIA
agents by the Bush team in an act of revenge. Or the Investigation into
the bugging of UN officials.

American Media is a Joke, From CNN, CBS, to Faux, and the rest no
journalistic credibility whatsoever.

Gingrich is the Dems' dream candidate for '08.

Wow - seconds on conspiracy anyone?


"nmm" wrote in message
oups.com...

Don Cooper wrote:
It reminds me the GW dodged his cushy assignment while JK was
being shot
at and saving lives in vietnam
george

Well, yeah, that too :-)


That's the real story.


And that as why the CBS story happened. It was Bush campaign strategy.
Attack On the Strong points.
That's why we have the Swift Boat Liars, who had to legally distance
themselves from the Bush people, even though that was where their money
was coming from. Bush used a similar strategy against John McCain in
the 2000 primaries; claiming McCain collaberated with the enemy.


The CBS story was an absolute set up. Rather being somewhat farcicle,
and CBS having a longtime feud with the Bush family; Since Cronkite
confronted Bush 41 about CIA agents should be posing as reporters. So
the backroom Bush campaign set the whole thing up, to take attention
away from the real issue. Bush was AWOL when in the guard, and lost his
Pilot's status due to Drug testing. Bush still hasn't released the
"Record Of the Flight Examiner" because that would either clear him, or
convict him on these charges. I think he would have released it if he
were to be cleared.



And where is the investigation into the leaking of the names of CIA
agents by the Bush team in an act of revenge. Or the Investigation into
the bugging of UN officials.

American Media is a Joke, From CNN, CBS, to Faux, and the rest no
journalistic credibility whatsoever.