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Suggestions on getting good bass guitar track
Would like to track a bass guitar into sonar along with guitar,
keyboards, drums. My bass track is muddy. Any tips? What's the best mic (my cabinet is a 4x10), SWR SM 500 head. |
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jb wrote:
Would like to track a bass guitar into sonar along with guitar, keyboards, drums. My bass track is muddy. Any tips? What's the best mic (my cabinet is a 4x10), SWR SM 500 head. Try a good DI box to a separate track along with the amp track. The DI will give you some clarity to balance the amp. Make sure your room is up to the task. The frequendy range of bass guitar falls right in the area where most smaller rooms tend to have problems. If your room isn't up to snuff & you can't get it there, the DI is your best friend. If you can get the amp to sound good in the room, you have a lot more flexibility to mix the amp & DI. |
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Agent86 is right on. One of the best D.I.s for bass is called the
"Evil Twin". This box is out of production. However, Mercenary Audio is selling the Aguilar Tube DI http://www.mercenary.com/agam.html. Spendy, but worth a look. I'm booked into a studio next week that uses an old Telefunken tube pre for bass. Don't know the model number, but it works great as a bass DI. DaveT |
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wrote in message ups.com... Agent86 is right on. One of the best D.I.s for bass is called the "Evil Twin". This box is out of production. However, Mercenary Audio is selling the Aguilar Tube DI http://www.mercenary.com/agam.html. Spendy, but worth a look. I'm booked into a studio next week that uses an old Telefunken tube pre for bass. Don't know the model number, but it works great as a bass DI. And if you're looking for a cheaper solution, check out the Sans Amp bass DI. I use it a lot and it sounds really good. A good mic to start with a bass amp is a Sennheiser 421. --litepipe |
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In article . com,
wrote: Agent86 is right on. One of the best D.I.s for bass is called the "Evil Twin". This box is out of production. However, Mercenary Audio is selling the Aguilar Tube DI http://www.mercenary.com/agam.html. Spendy, but worth a look. I'm booked into a studio next week that uses an old Telefunken tube pre for bass. Don't know the model number, but it works great as a bass DI. DaveT Fletcher was classy enough to link to Bruce if you want one. If any of ya find out what they sell for, do post the price here. The following is from http://store.yahoo.com/mercenary-audio/eclair.html : Evil Twin As much as we'd love to sell it, Bruce has decided to sell direct and we respect his decision to do so. If you are interested in ordering an Eclair Engineering product please contact Bruce directly at the information below. Bruce Seifried Eclair Engineering PO Box 125 8 Village Hill Road Williamsburg, MA 01096 413-268-3669 David Correia Celebration Sound Warren, Rhode Island www.CelebrationSound.com |
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Would like to track a bass guitar into sonar along with guitar,
keyboards, drums. My bass track is muddy. Any tips? What's the best mic (my cabinet is a 4x10), SWR SM 500 head. Same list as kick drum mics, Audix D-5, Sennheiser 421, AKG D12 (out of production). I personally dislike the D112, not versatile enough for my rack. |
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Sugarite wrote:
Audix D-5, Is there a such thing? |
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bruce seifried wrote:
wrote: Agent86 is right on. One of the best D.I.s for bass is called the "Evil Twin". This box is out of production. Just to set the record straight, the Evil Twin *is* currently in production, and I will be shipping out the next batch in about four or five weeks. And I reiterate my enthusiasm for the ET; it's a wonderful device. I never bothered taking the pickup signal from my duo partner's cello until 1) we put a David Gage "Realist" on it, and 2) fed that to the Evil Twin. Now we always track that, too, just for the thrill of hearing it. Recently I was tracking a young player with a not great Cort bass. We could not believe the gorgeousity of the bass via the ET. That it is once again available new is a tribute to one man's fortitude. g Anybody looking for a DI over which to outrightly drool, get in line for this thing. -- ha |
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Sugarite wrote:
Would like to track a bass guitar into sonar along with guitar, keyboards, drums. My bass track is muddy. Any tips? What's the best mic (my cabinet is a 4x10), SWR SM 500 head. Same list as kick drum mics, Audix D-5, Sennheiser 421, AKG D12 (out of production). I personally dislike the D112, not versatile enough for my rack. Beyer M88 can be a very good bass amp mic, too. -- ha |
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"hank alrich" wrote in message .. . Sugarite wrote: Would like to track a bass guitar into sonar along with guitar, keyboards, drums. My bass track is muddy. Any tips? What's the best mic (my cabinet is a 4x10), SWR SM 500 head. Same list as kick drum mics, Audix D-5, Sennheiser 421, AKG D12 (out of production). I personally dislike the D112, not versatile enough for my rack. Beyer M88 can be a very good bass amp mic, too. Another thought: sometimes, when a bass track is muddy, I've had luck switching to a smaller, single-speaker cabinet. Also, as others have suggested, take a DI feed to a separate track. Peace, Paul |
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jb wrote: Would like to track a bass guitar into sonar along with guitar, keyboards, drums. My bass track is muddy. Any tips? What's the best mic (my cabinet is a 4x10), SWR SM 500 head. I like the PL20 (Electro-Voice RE20) in front of a bass cabinet when it's available. Right up against the grill, centered over the cone/dome seam. Play louder ! It takes some wattage to get a 10 to breakup on a bass and create some character. Don't compress a whole lot tracking. If want more punch for the bass when mixing, you can use some EQ to add presence (panned a bit more to one side) and center a compressed strip to beef the bottom. rd |
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Paul Stamler wrote:
"hank alrich" wrote... Sugarite wrote: Would like to track a bass guitar into sonar along with guitar, keyboards, drums. My bass track is muddy. Any tips? What's the best mic (my cabinet is a 4x10), SWR SM 500 head. Same list as kick drum mics, Audix D-5, Sennheiser 421, AKG D12 (out of production). I personally dislike the D112, not versatile enough for my rack. Beyer M88 can be a very good bass amp mic, too. Another thought: sometimes, when a bass track is muddy, I've had luck switching to a smaller, single-speaker cabinet. Also, as others have suggested, take a DI feed to a separate track. You just reminded me that often when I put an M88 on a multi-speaker bass cab, I close mic only one of the drivers. In particular, I have an ancient (I bought it in 1969) Traynor 4 x 10 bass cab that delivers nicely this way. -- ha |
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