A good friend is looking to buy a Fostex or Tascam 1/2 inch 16-track machine
so he can transfer a bunch of old tapes. This is for a one-time use so the
cheaper the better. It doesn't even have to be able to record, just play
back. Reply to me through the Email Ethan link on my web site
www.ethanwiner.com. Thanks.

I can't remember the name, but there's a place in Glendale, I believe,
somewhere here in L.A., which specializes in transferring analog tape
of all types to the digital type of your choice. Rhino Records does
all its transfers there.
They've got great analog gear as well as A/D convertors, and I'm
sure it would be cheaper than buying a machine, repairing it, etc.
Plus, if your tapes need to be baked, re-spliced, etc. they're set up
for all of that restoration stuff. If you're out of town, just ship
it by mail.
Anyone know what that studio is called? They're nice people,
too, as I recall.
Cheers, Rick Novak.

"Ethan Winer" wrote ...
A good friend is looking to buy a Fostex or Tascam 1/2 inch 16-track machine
so he can transfer a bunch of old tapes. This is for a one-time use so the
cheaper the better. It doesn't even have to be able to record, just play
back. Reply to me through the Email Ethan link on my web site
www.ethanwiner.com. Thanks.

I can't remember the name, but there's a place in Glendale, I believe,
somewhere here in L.A., which specializes in transferring analog tape
of all types to the digital type of your choice. Rhino Records does
all its transfers there.
They've got great analog gear as well as A/D convertors, and I'm
sure it would be cheaper than buying a machine, repairing it, etc.
Plus, if your tapes need to be baked, re-spliced, etc. they're set up
for all of that restoration stuff. If you're out of town, just ship
it by mail.
Anyone know what that studio is called? They're nice people,
too, as I recall.
Cheers, Rick Novak.

"Ethan Winer" wrote ...
A good friend is looking to buy a Fostex or Tascam 1/2 inch 16-track machine
so he can transfer a bunch of old tapes. This is for a one-time use so the
cheaper the better. It doesn't even have to be able to record, just play
back. Reply to me through the Email Ethan link on my web site
www.ethanwiner.com. Thanks.

On 4 Dec 2004 12:17:58 -0800, (rickymix) wrote:

I can't remember the name, but there's a place in Glendale, I believe,
somewhere here in L.A., which specializes in transferring analog tape
of all types to the digital type of your choice. Rhino Records does
all its transfers there. snip

That MIGHT be the old Lorin Whitney Studio (former home of his famous
Robert-Morton theater pipe organ heard on various released as
disparate as Jesse Crawford to Frank Zappa), later bought out by MCA.
I'm not sure if it is still an MCA operation. Disney was in there a
lot, too.

dB

On 4 Dec 2004 12:17:58 -0800, (rickymix) wrote:

I can't remember the name, but there's a place in Glendale, I believe,
somewhere here in L.A., which specializes in transferring analog tape
of all types to the digital type of your choice. Rhino Records does
all its transfers there. snip

That MIGHT be the old Lorin Whitney Studio (former home of his famous
Robert-Morton theater pipe organ heard on various released as
disparate as Jesse Crawford to Frank Zappa), later bought out by MCA.
I'm not sure if it is still an MCA operation. Disney was in there a
lot, too.

dB

On 4 Dec 2004 12:17:58 -0800, (rickymix) wrote:

I can't remember the name, but there's a place in Glendale, I believe,
somewhere here in L.A., which specializes in transferring analog tape
of all types to the digital type of your choice. Rhino Records does
all its transfers there.


This sounds like a good idea especially since the Tascam and Fostex
half inchers are not compatable.


Frank /~ http://newmex.com/f10
@/

On 4 Dec 2004 12:17:58 -0800, (rickymix) wrote:

I can't remember the name, but there's a place in Glendale, I believe,
somewhere here in L.A., which specializes in transferring analog tape
of all types to the digital type of your choice. Rhino Records does
all its transfers there.


This sounds like a good idea especially since the Tascam and Fostex
half inchers are not compatable.


Frank /~ http://newmex.com/f10
@/

In article "Ethan Winer" ethanw at ethanwiner dot com writes:

A good friend is looking to buy a Fostex or Tascam 1/2 inch 16-track machine
so he can transfer a bunch of old tapes. This is for a one-time use so the
cheaper the better.

How many tapes does he have to transfer? Hundreds? Dozens? A couple?

People seem to think they have to own all the tools (the cheaper the
better) even for doing a one-time job. Wouldn't it make more sense for
him to find someone with a suitable deck in good shape and rent or
borrow it for a while rather than buy what's likely to be a junker?
I'll bet there are plenty of those that are known to be in good shape
but sitting idle most of the time and would be available as loaners.

Or doesn't he care about the quality of the transfers, but just wants
to do it?



--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

In article "Ethan Winer" ethanw at ethanwiner dot com writes:

A good friend is looking to buy a Fostex or Tascam 1/2 inch 16-track machine
so he can transfer a bunch of old tapes. This is for a one-time use so the
cheaper the better.

How many tapes does he have to transfer? Hundreds? Dozens? A couple?

People seem to think they have to own all the tools (the cheaper the
better) even for doing a one-time job. Wouldn't it make more sense for
him to find someone with a suitable deck in good shape and rent or
borrow it for a while rather than buy what's likely to be a junker?
I'll bet there are plenty of those that are known to be in good shape
but sitting idle most of the time and would be available as loaners.

Or doesn't he care about the quality of the transfers, but just wants
to do it?



--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

1/2 " 16 analog decks are going up in value right now. I don't think you are
going to find the el cheapo one you are looking for. People are parting out
broken ones, as its hard to get parts.
I have a Fostex G16, and its a pretty sweet little deck. I don't use it much,
but I'm hanging on to it just the same...

good luck!

1/2 " 16 analog decks are going up in value right now. I don't think you are
going to find the el cheapo one you are looking for. People are parting out
broken ones, as its hard to get parts.
I have a Fostex G16, and its a pretty sweet little deck. I don't use it much,
but I'm hanging on to it just the same...

good luck!

Frank Vuotto wrote:

(rickymix) wrote:

I can't remember the name, but there's a place in Glendale, I believe,
somewhere here in L.A., which specializes in transferring analog tape
of all types to the digital type of your choice. Rhino Records does
all its transfers there.


This sounds like a good idea especially since the Tascam and Fostex
half inchers are not compatable.

This ain't in Glendale, but seems like a similar option:

http://www.sonicraft.com/a2dx/a2dx_tech.html

--
ha

BLCKOUT420 wrote:

1/2 " 16 analog decks are going up in value right now. I don't think you are
going to find the el cheapo one you are looking for. People are parting out
broken ones, as its hard to get parts.
I have a Fostex G16, and its a pretty sweet little deck. I don't use it much,
but I'm hanging on to it just the same...

good luck!

i'd hand deliver those tapes if i were you.

Guys,

Thanks for all the replies. I'm forwarding them to my friend.

Mike: I'm not sure how many tapes there are, but it's probably a few dozen
or more 10" reels. He has been looking on eBay, and so far has lost several
bids at up to $450 which is about all he's willing to spend. I agree with
those that say he should hire someone to do it, and I've told him that. Even
if he finds a machine for $450, he's still looking at *many* hours of his
own time to do the work.

--Ethan

Ethan Winer ethanw at ethanwiner dot com wrote:
Thanks for all the replies. I'm forwarding them to my friend.

Mike: I'm not sure how many tapes there are, but it's probably a few dozen
or more 10" reels. He has been looking on eBay, and so far has lost several
bids at up to $450 which is about all he's willing to spend. I agree with
those that say he should hire someone to do it, and I've told him that. Even
if he finds a machine for $450, he's still looking at *many* hours of his
own time to do the work.

Not to mention that, after buying the machine for $450, he's going to be
spending a couple hundred bucks to replace the pinch roller, disassemble
the motor to clean and lube the bearings, sweep-test everything and make
sure it can be aligned for flat response, and clean all the contacts. And
that is assuming it's not full of bad caps and the heads are new.

Buying a machine that has sat in storage for years, like most of these
machines have, and then expecting to put it into service without a substantial
investment, is going to result in some real surprises.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

"BLCKOUT420" wrote in message
...
1/2 " 16 analog decks are going up in value right now. I don't think you
are
going to find the el cheapo one you are looking for. People are parting
out
broken ones, as its hard to get parts.
I have a Fostex G16, and its a pretty sweet little deck. I don't use it
much,
but I'm hanging on to it just the same...

And I'm selling two N.O.S. pinch rollers for the Fostex B16 machine. Cheap.

Anyone knows if they would fit other Fostex 1/2" machines (E and G series)?

Predrag

"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
...
Ethan Winer ethanw at ethanwiner dot com wrote:
Thanks for all the replies. I'm forwarding them to my friend.

Mike: I'm not sure how many tapes there are, but it's probably a few
dozen
or more 10" reels. He has been looking on eBay, and so far has lost
several
bids at up to $450 which is about all he's willing to spend. I agree with
those that say he should hire someone to do it, and I've told him that.
Even
if he finds a machine for $450, he's still looking at *many* hours of his
own time to do the work.

Not to mention that, after buying the machine for $450, he's going to be
spending a couple hundred bucks to replace the pinch roller, disassemble
the motor to clean and lube the bearings, sweep-test everything and make
sure it can be aligned for flat response, and clean all the contacts. And
that is assuming it's not full of bad caps and the heads are new.

Buying a machine that has sat in storage for years, like most of these
machines have, and then expecting to put it into service without a
substantial
investment, is going to result in some real surprises.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

I guess I got lucky then: I recently transferred six reels on a Tascam
16-track 1" machine that had been in storage for 13 years and it came out
beautifully. I did BAKE the tapes beforehand, however, and thoroughly
cleaned the machine. (The tapes were Ampex 456 and also around 13 years
old).

On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 19:26:39 +0100, "Predrag Trpkov"
wrote:


"BLCKOUT420" wrote in message
...
1/2 " 16 analog decks are going up in value right now. I don't think you
are
going to find the el cheapo one you are looking for. People are parting
out
broken ones, as its hard to get parts.
I have a Fostex G16, and its a pretty sweet little deck. I don't use it
much,
but I'm hanging on to it just the same...

And I'm selling two N.O.S. pinch rollers for the Fostex B16 machine. Cheap.

Anyone knows if they would fit other Fostex 1/2" machines (E and G series)?

Predrag



What's the part #?


http://liondogmusic.com

I can't remember the name, but there's a place in Glendale, I believe,
somewhere here in L.A., which specializes in transferring analog tape
of all types to the digital type of your choice. BRBR

Are you thinking of Penguin Recorders, which is actually in Eagle Rock? The
guy's name is John Strother & he seems to have one of every format in the known
analog world. Tell him I sent you. His number is 323-259-8612.

Scott Fraser

Ethan Winer wrote:

Guys,

Thanks for all the replies. I'm forwarding them to my friend.

Mike: I'm not sure how many tapes there are, but it's probably a few dozen
or more 10" reels. He has been looking on eBay, and so far has lost several
bids at up to $450 which is about all he's willing to spend. I agree with
those that say he should hire someone to do it, and I've told him that. Even
if he finds a machine for $450, he's still looking at *many* hours of his
own time to do the work.

--Ethan

I'd maybe suggest hiring a known working machine for a while rather than
buying something of an unknown machine. You also need to hire/buy the
same make of machine that the tape was recorded on as I believe Fostex
used Dolby C while Tascam used Dbx. In my experience with these machines
you are likely to have problems with worn heads causing uneven bass
response and dirty phono connectors.

Be prepared to bake the tapes if they're Ampex and they've been stored
in the merest hint of dampness.

Cheers.

James.

Predrag Trpkov wrote:

And I'm selling two N.O.S. pinch rollers for the Fostex B16 machine. Cheap.

Anyone knows if they would fit other Fostex 1/2" machines (E and G series)?

Don't know, but I am as paranoid about NOS rubber parts as I am about
NOS electrolytics....
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Bingo! That's it, John Strother at Penguin Recorders. Thanks Scott!
Penguin did an interesting thing with their drum booth, too.
Instead of raising the ceiling, they lowered the floor about eight
feet! Dug a hole right into the dirt under the house. Pretty clever,
and it sounded good when I clapped my hands down in there. Has anyone
here actually recorded in it? Given the intoxication level of a lot of
the bands I tend to work with, I was always too worried that someone
would stumble into the drum pit. That would have been a unique way to
ruin a take! :) Funny if it happened in a movie, but not in real
life. Cheers, Rick.

Bingo! That's it, John Strother at Penguin Recorders. Thanks Scott!
Penguin did an interesting thing with their drum booth, too.
Instead of raising the ceiling, they lowered the floor about eight
feet! Dug a hole right into the dirt under the house. Pretty clever,
and it sounded good when I clapped my hands down in there. Has anyone
here actually recorded in it? Given the intoxication level of a lot of
the bands I tend to work with, I was always too worried that someone
would stumble into the drum pit. That would have been a unique way to
ruin a take! :) Funny if it happened in a movie, but not in real
life. Cheers, Rick.

Oops, sorry for the double-posts y'all. What the hell is going on with
Google? "Improvements" that make things worse? Classic! Rick.

Oops, sorry for the double-posts y'all. What the hell is going on with
Google? "Improvements" that make things worse? Classic! Rick.

"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
...
Predrag Trpkov wrote:

And I'm selling two N.O.S. pinch rollers for the Fostex B16 machine.
Cheap.

Anyone knows if they would fit other Fostex 1/2" machines (E and G
series)?

Don't know, but I am as paranoid about NOS rubber parts as I am about
NOS electrolytics....

Fair enough, but they've been left in the small plastic bag that they came
in, stored in a dry place and still look and feel sound to me. Anyway, I
have no problem sending them to the interested party first and getting the
money after they prove to be functioning well. I'm only asking $30 including
shipping anywhere in the world. OK, make it $25, let's put them to use
somewhere.

If I understand well, how they hold up over time greatly varies from one
type of rubber to another. Some of them decay very little or not at all.
Some of them decompose spectacularily. If they look good now and function
well at first, do you think it's possible that they start rapidly failing
all of the sudden, after a month or so?

Predrag

In article .com,
wrote:
Oops, sorry for the double-posts y'all. What the hell is going on with
Google? "Improvements" that make things worse? Classic! Rick.

Hey, when AOL first set up their Usenet service, every posting that an
AOL user made was duplicated eight times. That, combined with the fact
that huge numbers of AOL users piled onto the admin.* groups since they
were at the top of the list, got AOL's feed nearly canned.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

On 2004-12-06, wrote:

ruin a take! :) Funny if it happened in a movie, but not in real
life. Cheers, Rick.

Ow, the top of a drum kit tends to be pointy.

Predrag Trpkov wrote:
"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
...

Don't know, but I am as paranoid about NOS rubber parts as I am about
NOS electrolytics....

Fair enough, but they've been left in the small plastic bag that they came
in, stored in a dry place and still look and feel sound to me. Anyway, I
have no problem sending them to the interested party first and getting the
money after they prove to be functioning well. I'm only asking $30 including
shipping anywhere in the world. OK, make it $25, let's put them to use
somewhere.

Hell, for that price it's worth the money to buy them even if they are
decayed. Bad rollers can be recapped and if the bearings are fine (which
they should be if they are NOS), for $25 plus the cost of recapping you
would still come out ahead.

If I understand well, how they hold up over time greatly varies from one
type of rubber to another. Some of them decay very little or not at all.
Some of them decompose spectacularily. If they look good now and function
well at first, do you think it's possible that they start rapidly failing
all of the sudden, after a month or so?

I don't really understand rubber deterioration. I know that most of the
natural rubbers crosslink and become hard and slippery. This is what happens
to old Ampex rollers and Sono-Mag rollers. Most of the urethanes do the
opposite, and the links between the long chain molecules break down, causing
them to get soft and mushy. But thee are also a bunch of other kinds of
rubbers too, and I don't know how they fail or what the speed of failure is.
--scott




--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Scott Dorsey wrote:

Fair enough, but they've been left in the small plastic bag that they came
in, stored in a dry place and still look and feel sound to me. Anyway, I
have no problem sending them to the interested party first and getting the
money after they prove to be functioning well. I'm only asking $30 including
shipping anywhere in the world. OK, make it $25, let's put them to use
somewhere.

Hell, for that price it's worth the money to buy them even if they are
decayed. Bad rollers can be recapped and if the bearings are fine (which
they should be if they are NOS), for $25 plus the cost of recapping you
would still come out ahead.


Would that apply to MTR90 rollers too? I've just replaced mine with new
rollers from Precision Motor Works and I was about to dispose of the old
ones (the rubber totally melted in just a few weeks). Do you have any
idea who might be able to recap the old ones?

Cheers.

James.

James Perrett wrote:
Scott Dorsey wrote:

Fair enough, but they've been left in the small plastic bag that they came
in, stored in a dry place and still look and feel sound to me. Anyway, I
have no problem sending them to the interested party first and getting the
money after they prove to be functioning well. I'm only asking $30 including
shipping anywhere in the world. OK, make it $25, let's put them to use
somewhere.

Hell, for that price it's worth the money to buy them even if they are
decayed. Bad rollers can be recapped and if the bearings are fine (which
they should be if they are NOS), for $25 plus the cost of recapping you
would still come out ahead.

Would that apply to MTR90 rollers too? I've just replaced mine with new
rollers from Precision Motor Works and I was about to dispose of the old
ones (the rubber totally melted in just a few weeks). Do you have any
idea who might be able to recap the old ones?

Yes, and I think Precision Motor Works will do recapping! So will Athan!

There's probably someone in the UK that will do it. Ask your local offset
printing house who they use for rebuilding press rollers.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

"James Perrett" wrote in message
...
Scott Dorsey wrote:

Fair enough, but they've been left in the small plastic bag that they
came
in, stored in a dry place and still look and feel sound to me. Anyway,
I
have no problem sending them to the interested party first and getting
the
money after they prove to be functioning well. I'm only asking $30
including
shipping anywhere in the world. OK, make it $25, let's put them to use
somewhere.

Hell, for that price it's worth the money to buy them even if they are
decayed. Bad rollers can be recapped and if the bearings are fine
(which
they should be if they are NOS), for $25 plus the cost of recapping you
would still come out ahead.


Would that apply to MTR90 rollers too? I've just replaced mine with new
rollers from Precision Motor Works and I was about to dispose of the old
ones (the rubber totally melted in just a few weeks). Do you have any
idea who might be able to recap the old ones?


Check this: http://www.TerrysRubberRollers.com

Predrag

Predrag Trpkov wrote:



Would that apply to MTR90 rollers too? I've just replaced mine with new
rollers from Precision Motor Works and I was about to dispose of the old
ones (the rubber totally melted in just a few weeks). Do you have any
idea who might be able to recap the old ones?

Check this: http://www.TerrysRubberRollers.com

Predrag

Thanks Scott and Predrag for those ideas - I'll certainly hang on to
them and look into having them rebuilt for spares.

Cheers.

James.

Don't listen to this guy, his name is BOB SCARBOROUGH from Arizona, he
has (5) different usernames on ebay-
DESERTBOB-DESERTBOB1-DESERTBOB2-DESERTBOB3-VOXPOPPER- he runs up
negative feedbacks, then changes to another username

he bought a VHS dub from me, returned it for another one, then left
negative feedback disguised as a neutral

he also bought an alignment tape from me, made a copy for himself, then
returned it for a full refund

now he's following my auctions daily, and dogging my Usenet posts- all
are warned, to BAN ALL HIS USERNAMES FROM YOUR EBAY AUCTIONS

On 1 Jan 2005 07:48:37 -0800, wrote:

Don't listen to this guy, his name is BOB SCARBOROUGH from Arizona, he
has (5) different usernames on ebay-
DESERTBOB-DESERTBOB1-DESERTBOB2-DESERTBOB3-VOXPOPPER- he runs up
negative feedbacks, then changes to another username snip

I've been trying to shut down this fraudster,
, aka 66fourdoor on ebay, for months. This
is his limp attempt at a comeback. I do have to hand it to this
clown...he's learned how to manipulate the ebay feedback system to his
advantage and has also conned a number of ebay buyers with his dubbed
"alignment" carts and cassettes.

I've made him my favorite chew toy. Will Miho has to play second
fiddle.

dB