Is there a Tom's Hardware-like site out there that will compare these 3 main
home-studio soundcard lines head-to-head?

I really can't decide between the three companies.

M.

Arny's:
http://www.pcavtech.com/
--
Phil Wilson

"Michael C. Monroe" wrote in message
...
Is there a Tom's Hardware-like site out there that will compare these 3
main home-studio soundcard lines head-to-head?

I really can't decide between the three companies.

M.

The last soundcard evaluated there is dated 4 years ago.

"Phil Wilson" wrote in message
news:PXX7d.10405$mS1.4143@fed1read05...
Arny's:
http://www.pcavtech.com/
--
Phil Wilson

"Michael C. Monroe" wrote in message
...
Is there a Tom's Hardware-like site out there that will compare these 3
main home-studio soundcard lines head-to-head?

I really can't decide between the three companies.

"Jon J. Yeager" wrote in message


The last soundcard evaluated there is dated 4 years ago.

This would be a false claim.

3 of many Counter-examples:

http://www.pcavtech.com/soundcards/LynxTWO/index.htm

First posted 2/28/2002

http://www.pcavtech.com/soundcards/d...010lt/2496.htm

First posted 7/23/2004

http://www.pcavtech.com/soundcards/delta-1010/2496.htm

first posted 7/22/2004

Sorry, I clicked on the first link on top of the soundcard section (full
report) which hasn't been updated since 3/22/2000 according to the page
itself.

Not sure how I was supposed to get to these newer pages of yours, but thanks
for pointing them out.

Guess I should have
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Jon J. Yeager" wrote in message


The last soundcard evaluated there is dated 4 years ago.

This would be a false claim.

3 of many Counter-examples:

http://www.pcavtech.com/soundcards/LynxTWO/index.htm

First posted 2/28/2002

http://www.pcavtech.com/soundcards/d...010lt/2496.htm

First posted 7/23/2004

http://www.pcavtech.com/soundcards/delta-1010/2496.htm

first posted 7/22/2004

"Jon J. Yeager" wrote in message

Sorry, I clicked on the first link on top of the soundcard section
(full report) which hasn't been updated since 3/22/2000 according to
the page itself.

Not sure how I was supposed to get to these newer pages of yours, but
thanks for pointing them out.

http://www.pcavtech.com/soundcards/compare/index.htm

Sorry, I clicked on the first link on top of the soundcard section (full
report) which hasn't been updated since 3/22/2000 according to the page
itself.

Not sure how I was supposed to get to these newer pages of yours, but thanks
for pointing them out.

Guess I should have
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Jon J. Yeager" wrote in message


The last soundcard evaluated there is dated 4 years ago.

This would be a false claim.

3 of many Counter-examples:

http://www.pcavtech.com/soundcards/LynxTWO/index.htm

First posted 2/28/2002

http://www.pcavtech.com/soundcards/d...010lt/2496.htm

First posted 7/23/2004

http://www.pcavtech.com/soundcards/delta-1010/2496.htm

first posted 7/22/2004

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Jon J. Yeager" wrote in message


The last soundcard evaluated there is dated 4 years ago.

This would be a false claim.

Still no reports on RME cards after all these years?

"Kurt Albershardt" wrote in message
...
Still no reports on RME cards after all these years?

Send him one and I bet he'll test it.
Better yet, send it to me and I will do a more thorough test for you :-)

TonyP.

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Jon J. Yeager" wrote in message


The last soundcard evaluated there is dated 4 years ago.

This would be a false claim.

Still no reports on RME cards after all these years?

"Jon J. Yeager" wrote in message


The last soundcard evaluated there is dated 4 years ago.

This would be a false claim.

3 of many Counter-examples:

http://www.pcavtech.com/soundcards/LynxTWO/index.htm

First posted 2/28/2002

http://www.pcavtech.com/soundcards/d...010lt/2496.htm

First posted 7/23/2004

http://www.pcavtech.com/soundcards/delta-1010/2496.htm

first posted 7/22/2004

The last soundcard evaluated there is dated 4 years ago.

"Phil Wilson" wrote in message
news:PXX7d.10405$mS1.4143@fed1read05...
Arny's:
http://www.pcavtech.com/
--
Phil Wilson

"Michael C. Monroe" wrote in message
...
Is there a Tom's Hardware-like site out there that will compare these 3
main home-studio soundcard lines head-to-head?

I really can't decide between the three companies.

Arny's:
http://www.pcavtech.com/
--
Phil Wilson

"Michael C. Monroe" wrote in message
...
Is there a Tom's Hardware-like site out there that will compare these 3
main home-studio soundcard lines head-to-head?

I really can't decide between the three companies.

M.

Michael C. Monroe wrote:

I really can't decide between the three companies.

If your budget supports it, buy the Lynx (or an RME.)

Michael C. Monroe wrote:

I really can't decide between the three companies.

If your budget supports it, buy the Lynx (or an RME.)

"Michael C. Monroe" wrote in message
...
Is there a Tom's Hardware-like site out there that will compare these 3
main home-studio soundcard lines head-to-head?

I really can't decide between the three companies.

FWIW, I have the Lynx Two and previously owned the Echo Layla 20. That's
not really a fair comparison because the newer Layla is probably better, but
I certainly have been very happy with the sound quality of the Lynx Two.

I have had frequent problems with Windows drivers for both though, which can
really be maddening. I would rate the hardware for Lynx A+ and for Layla B.
I would rate the software driver support for both companies a D.

--Nick

I use a LynxONE. Have not owned Echo or M-Audio products. The LynxONE
hardware is solid, dependable, audio quality is superb. The LynxTWO has
even better specifications than my LynxONE. The LynxONE does NOT have WDM
drivers, MME or ASIO are all that is supported, and there are no plans to
develop WDM for LynxONE. The LynxTWO has just begun public beta testing of
WDM drivers, it also has MME and ASIO.

I did have an issue crop up with the LynxONE driver. Lynx Support was
reluctant to 'fix' it for me, instead citing the issue as a problem with the
application software vendor's design of initializing the soundcard drivers.
Lynx Support gave me detailed write up of the problem and cause, and a link
to a Microsoft article on windows driver initialization and the issue in
question (a change in the way the init should be handled, in Win2k and XP,
which changed since NT 4.0). Lynx Support also worked with the software
vendor to help their developers get their software corrected. This did take
some time, and in the meantime, the software did not work my Lynx, I had to
switch to the onboard sound module on the motherboard for that application.

A short time later, the same issue came up again, with another application
vendor. I sent this vendor the same information about the error, and
contacted Lynx Support to let them know of this application. Lynx Support
was again wlling to work with the developers. But this time, the
application vendor was not forthcoming with code changes.

Lynx Support responded to my frustration by giving me a new driver that
would 'forgive' the incorrect initialization calls from these applications.

So, yes, it was frustrating and I did not have the use of the Lynx card for
certain applications for a period. But I can't complain with the level of
support I received from Lynx, and although it was against their better
judgement, they changed their driver code rather than stick to principle on
'what is right'.

When my budget can support the purchase of a LynxTwo, I will buy one.

My $0.02 USD.
--
Sue Morton

"Nick" wrote in message
. net...
"Michael C. Monroe" wrote in message
...
Is there a Tom's Hardware-like site out there that will compare these 3
main home-studio soundcard lines head-to-head?

I really can't decide between the three companies.

FWIW, I have the Lynx Two and previously owned the Echo Layla 20. That's
not really a fair comparison because the newer Layla is probably better,
but I certainly have been very happy with the sound quality of the Lynx
Two.

I have had frequent problems with Windows drivers for both though, which
can really be maddening. I would rate the hardware for Lynx A+ and for
Layla B. I would rate the software driver support for both companies a D.

--Nick

Working in the lab until Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:51:23 GMT, "Sue Morton"
only managed to write:

I use a LynxONE. Have not owned Echo or M-Audio products.
.... snippo, for windproof snippage ...

I appreciate the detailed info about the Lynx audio cards. I might be
taking it closer to heart (and wallet!) very soon, and here's why ...

I've been a user of Cakewalk and Echo products for about 7 years now,
and last year I upgraded to Sonar3 PE (from CW pro 8) - worked fine with
my 98-vintage Gina 20bit card.

In the past two months and prior to actually installing and using Sonar3
PE, I have attempted to complete my staged DAW upgrades with a new
motherboard/CPU setup - to an ASUS A8V deluxe with a socket 939 CPU (AMD
Athlon 64). Unfortunately, I found an incompatibility issue between
Echo's audio cards and the VIA K8T800 pro chipset. I cannot accept
credit for this noble, if dubious honor, as I can only assume there are
others that have 'discovered' this problem since Echo was aware of it,
if only just. The issue was confirmed to me by a tech at Echo
electronics, who just today emailed me with the info that, further, the
communication between Echo and VIA in Taiwan seems to have reached a
dead end.

So, as far as a review of customer service goes, I have to say that
while tech support at Echo are somehwat hard to get a hold of on the
phone, they are responsive to detailed emails, and have been very honest
about the problems and (in this case) the grim reality of not being able
to get around them. So far, Marcel has even been helping me somewhat in
finding a replacement chipset that will work, but this hasn't been
fruitful for my somewhat unusual high-performance CPU selection.

In the meantime, of course, I have a useless Gina 3G on my hands - as it
turns out the mobo is cheaper to replace than the Gina, but I'm worried
about which one to try to replace it with. I might also get a new mobo
that's compatible, but too noisy (all the nVidia nForce3 or nForce4
chipsets for this CPU that I've seen feature active cooling systems,
which tend to be on the noisy side) - one of the main reasons for going
with this setup in the first place was that the noise to performance
ratio was so good.

A riskier option would be to go for a replacement soundcard interface
(much more $) ... and that's what I am curious about and the end reason
why I'm posting this here. Anyone out there have Echo/M-Audio/Lynx/E-MU
cards that have them working on a PC that has a socket 939 CPU/mobo? If
so, what chipset works for you?

I fear I've either wasted the $ on the Gina 3G or wasted the $ on the
CPU/mobo. Heigh ho. I guess I could always use the CPU/mobo on some
other computer and replace this one's CPU/mobo with a known working one.


- Jon

PS: sorry for the dramatics on this first-ever post to this group, but
I'm quite annoyed as one might imagine

--
"TASAGABATASA" - JWeb

This is a pretty boring webpage:
www.nmia.com/~madswede

You could definitely move the CPU/mobo to a different case and use it for
just about anything - backups, internet gateway, etc. Even as a second
music rig for pure digital realm where having a high-end ADDA card wouldn't
matter. You can ALWAYS use a second computer!

Regarding the LynxONE. Mine is in a box with an ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe mobo,
Intel chipset, P4 3.0ghz HT CPU. I haven't yet had any compatibility issues
with this hardware and anything I've thrown at it.

The LynxONE is a superb card. If I could justify the expense I'd go for a
LynxTWO when it goes, but I'll likely try an Echo product instead.

My only gripe with the LynxONE is that it has MME and ASIO drivers only, no
WDM drivers. For music production using Sonar, Cool Edit, etc. this is no
issue, both MME and ASIO perform flawlessly. My gripe is because the
LynxONE cannot be used as a replacement for the default system sound.
Because of the lack of WDM, the OS does some strange sounding emulation
using the MME drivers, for software like Windows Media Player, Finale, etc.
that only use the default system sound. So my little onboard sound module
on the ASUS - which is quite good for its kind, actually - is the default
system sound, and I have a set of speakers plugged in for that. The rest of
the cabling is on the Lynx and goes to various peripherals.
--
Sue Morton


"Jon Nelson" wrote in message
...
I've been a user of Cakewalk and Echo products for about 7 years now,
and last year I upgraded to Sonar3 PE (from CW pro 8) - worked fine with
my 98-vintage Gina 20bit card.
snip
I fear I've either wasted the $ on the Gina 3G or wasted the $ on the
CPU/mobo. Heigh ho. I guess I could always use the CPU/mobo on some
other computer and replace this one's CPU/mobo with a known working one.

I've used the Gina24, currently using the Layla24 although I now use
strictly Intel chips on all my PCs.

I tried an AMD/VIA combo in the past and had nothing but problems
(although I thought the Gina24 worked with it).

IMHO I'd dump the AMD on ebay.

Echo products seem to be pretty good for the $, and the drivers
generally are well supported in the PC environment.

I do have to replace a scratchy heaphone volume control on the Layla,
but Echo shipped me the parts I need for free, so they seem responsive.

--Peter

Jon Nelson wrote:
Working in the lab until Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:51:23 GMT, "Sue Morton"
only managed to write:


I use a LynxONE. Have not owned Echo or M-Audio products.

... snippo, for windproof snippage ...

I appreciate the detailed info about the Lynx audio cards. I might be
taking it closer to heart (and wallet!) very soon, and here's why ...

I've been a user of Cakewalk and Echo products for about 7 years now,
and last year I upgraded to Sonar3 PE (from CW pro 8) - worked fine with
my 98-vintage Gina 20bit card.

In the past two months and prior to actually installing and using Sonar3
PE, I have attempted to complete my staged DAW upgrades with a new
motherboard/CPU setup - to an ASUS A8V deluxe with a socket 939 CPU (AMD
Athlon 64). Unfortunately, I found an incompatibility issue between
Echo's audio cards and the VIA K8T800 pro chipset. I cannot accept
credit for this noble, if dubious honor, as I can only assume there are
others that have 'discovered' this problem since Echo was aware of it,
if only just. The issue was confirmed to me by a tech at Echo
electronics, who just today emailed me with the info that, further, the
communication between Echo and VIA in Taiwan seems to have reached a
dead end.

So, as far as a review of customer service goes, I have to say that
while tech support at Echo are somehwat hard to get a hold of on the
phone, they are responsive to detailed emails, and have been very honest
about the problems and (in this case) the grim reality of not being able
to get around them. So far, Marcel has even been helping me somewhat in
finding a replacement chipset that will work, but this hasn't been
fruitful for my somewhat unusual high-performance CPU selection.

In the meantime, of course, I have a useless Gina 3G on my hands - as it
turns out the mobo is cheaper to replace than the Gina, but I'm worried
about which one to try to replace it with. I might also get a new mobo
that's compatible, but too noisy (all the nVidia nForce3 or nForce4
chipsets for this CPU that I've seen feature active cooling systems,
which tend to be on the noisy side) - one of the main reasons for going
with this setup in the first place was that the noise to performance
ratio was so good.

A riskier option would be to go for a replacement soundcard interface
(much more $) ... and that's what I am curious about and the end reason
why I'm posting this here. Anyone out there have Echo/M-Audio/Lynx/E-MU
cards that have them working on a PC that has a socket 939 CPU/mobo? If
so, what chipset works for you?

I fear I've either wasted the $ on the Gina 3G or wasted the $ on the
CPU/mobo. Heigh ho. I guess I could always use the CPU/mobo on some
other computer and replace this one's CPU/mobo with a known working one.


- Jon

PS: sorry for the dramatics on this first-ever post to this group, but
I'm quite annoyed as one might imagine

Quick! Hide before Ted sees you!

"Jon Nelson" wrote in message
...
Working in the lab until Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:51:23 GMT, "Sue Morton"
only managed to write:

I use a LynxONE. Have not owned Echo or M-Audio products.
... snippo, for windproof snippage ...

I use a LynxONE. Have not owned Echo or M-Audio products. The LynxONE
hardware is solid, dependable, audio quality is superb. The LynxTWO has
even better specifications than my LynxONE. The LynxONE does NOT have WDM
drivers, MME or ASIO are all that is supported, and there are no plans to
develop WDM for LynxONE. The LynxTWO has just begun public beta testing of
WDM drivers, it also has MME and ASIO.

I did have an issue crop up with the LynxONE driver. Lynx Support was
reluctant to 'fix' it for me, instead citing the issue as a problem with the
application software vendor's design of initializing the soundcard drivers.
Lynx Support gave me detailed write up of the problem and cause, and a link
to a Microsoft article on windows driver initialization and the issue in
question (a change in the way the init should be handled, in Win2k and XP,
which changed since NT 4.0). Lynx Support also worked with the software
vendor to help their developers get their software corrected. This did take
some time, and in the meantime, the software did not work my Lynx, I had to
switch to the onboard sound module on the motherboard for that application.

A short time later, the same issue came up again, with another application
vendor. I sent this vendor the same information about the error, and
contacted Lynx Support to let them know of this application. Lynx Support
was again wlling to work with the developers. But this time, the
application vendor was not forthcoming with code changes.

Lynx Support responded to my frustration by giving me a new driver that
would 'forgive' the incorrect initialization calls from these applications.

So, yes, it was frustrating and I did not have the use of the Lynx card for
certain applications for a period. But I can't complain with the level of
support I received from Lynx, and although it was against their better
judgement, they changed their driver code rather than stick to principle on
'what is right'.

When my budget can support the purchase of a LynxTwo, I will buy one.

My $0.02 USD.
--
Sue Morton

"Nick" wrote in message
. net...
"Michael C. Monroe" wrote in message
...
Is there a Tom's Hardware-like site out there that will compare these 3
main home-studio soundcard lines head-to-head?

I really can't decide between the three companies.

FWIW, I have the Lynx Two and previously owned the Echo Layla 20. That's
not really a fair comparison because the newer Layla is probably better,
but I certainly have been very happy with the sound quality of the Lynx
Two.

I have had frequent problems with Windows drivers for both though, which
can really be maddening. I would rate the hardware for Lynx A+ and for
Layla B. I would rate the software driver support for both companies a D.

--Nick

Nick wrote:

I have the Lynx Two and previously owned the Echo Layla 20. That's
not really a fair comparison because the newer Layla is probably better, but
I certainly have been very happy with the sound quality of the Lynx Two.

I have had frequent problems with Windows drivers for both though, which can
really be maddening. I would rate the hardware for Lynx A+ and for Layla B.
I would rate the software driver support for both companies a D.

I bought my RME Digiface primarily for the quality of its drivers & support. I have not been disappointed.

Nick wrote:

I have the Lynx Two and previously owned the Echo Layla 20. That's
not really a fair comparison because the newer Layla is probably better, but
I certainly have been very happy with the sound quality of the Lynx Two.

I have had frequent problems with Windows drivers for both though, which can
really be maddening. I would rate the hardware for Lynx A+ and for Layla B.
I would rate the software driver support for both companies a D.

I bought my RME Digiface primarily for the quality of its drivers & support. I have not been disappointed.

On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:05:17 GMT, "Nick"
wrote:

FWIW, I have the Lynx Two and previously owned the Echo Layla 20. That's
not really a fair comparison because the newer Layla is probably better, but
I certainly have been very happy with the sound quality of the Lynx Two.

I have had frequent problems with Windows drivers for both though, which can
really be maddening. I would rate the hardware for Lynx A+ and for Layla B.
I would rate the software driver support for both companies a D.

What problems? Are you using reasonably modern hardware and Windows
XP?


CubaseFAQ www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm
"Possibly the world's least impressive web site": George Perfect

"Laurence Payne" wrote in
message
On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:05:17 GMT, "Nick"
wrote:

FWIW, I have the Lynx Two and previously owned the Echo Layla 20.
That's not really a fair comparison because the newer Layla is
probably better, but I certainly have been very happy with the sound
quality of the Lynx Two.

I have had frequent problems with Windows drivers for both though,
which can really be maddening. I would rate the hardware for Lynx
A+ and for Layla B. I would rate the software driver support for
both companies a D.

What problems? Are you using reasonably modern hardware and Windows
XP?

Agreed, these negative comments about Lynx drivers amaze me. I've used both
the LynxONE and LynxTWO drviers with a variety of hardware and software,
both reguilar audio recording software and also for measurements. While some
of this software sometimes runs into problems with other vendor's drivers,
Lynx software always performs flawlessly for me.

"Laurence Payne" wrote in
message
On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:05:17 GMT, "Nick"
wrote:

FWIW, I have the Lynx Two and previously owned the Echo Layla 20.
That's not really a fair comparison because the newer Layla is
probably better, but I certainly have been very happy with the sound
quality of the Lynx Two.

I have had frequent problems with Windows drivers for both though,
which can really be maddening. I would rate the hardware for Lynx
A+ and for Layla B. I would rate the software driver support for
both companies a D.

What problems? Are you using reasonably modern hardware and Windows
XP?

Agreed, these negative comments about Lynx drivers amaze me. I've used both
the LynxONE and LynxTWO drviers with a variety of hardware and software,
both reguilar audio recording software and also for measurements. While some
of this software sometimes runs into problems with other vendor's drivers,
Lynx software always performs flawlessly for me.

In article writes:

On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:05:17 GMT, "Nick"
(I think) wrote:

I have had frequent problems with Windows drivers for both though, which can
really be maddening. I would rate the hardware for Lynx A+ and for Layla B.
I would rate the software driver support for both companies a D.

What problems? Are you using reasonably modern hardware and Windows
XP?

I have a Lynx L22 in a computer that's running Win98SE. It worked fine
when I first installed it (first generation drivers and firmware) and
continued to work until they got a couple of steps ahead of the OS
with the drivers and I had to downgrade a version at a time (I skipped
a few versions and just got "the latest" when the muse struck me)
until it started working again, and that's where it sits. It isn't
going to work any worse and it does what I need it to do, so there's
no need to upgrade further - either drivers or OS.

I suppose that one of these days I'll replace that computer, it will
have WinXP or 2000 on it, and I'll have to play the driver game
again. But I tend to leave things alone when they work.


--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

In article writes:

On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:05:17 GMT, "Nick"
(I think) wrote:

I have had frequent problems with Windows drivers for both though, which can
really be maddening. I would rate the hardware for Lynx A+ and for Layla B.
I would rate the software driver support for both companies a D.

What problems? Are you using reasonably modern hardware and Windows
XP?

I have a Lynx L22 in a computer that's running Win98SE. It worked fine
when I first installed it (first generation drivers and firmware) and
continued to work until they got a couple of steps ahead of the OS
with the drivers and I had to downgrade a version at a time (I skipped
a few versions and just got "the latest" when the muse struck me)
until it started working again, and that's where it sits. It isn't
going to work any worse and it does what I need it to do, so there's
no need to upgrade further - either drivers or OS.

I suppose that one of these days I'll replace that computer, it will
have WinXP or 2000 on it, and I'll have to play the driver game
again. But I tend to leave things alone when they work.


--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:05:17 GMT, "Nick"
wrote:

FWIW, I have the Lynx Two and previously owned the Echo Layla 20. That's
not really a fair comparison because the newer Layla is probably better,
but
I certainly have been very happy with the sound quality of the Lynx Two.

I have had frequent problems with Windows drivers for both though, which
can
really be maddening. I would rate the hardware for Lynx A+ and for Layla
B.
I would rate the software driver support for both companies a D.

What problems?

A wide variety of problems from mere quirkiness to not working at all.

Are you using reasonably modern hardware and Windows
XP?

Yes. I upgrade my computer every 3 years.

It is impossible to know if such problems are the driver, the audio
software, or something else. I suspect the drivers.

--Nick

In article writes:

What problems?
A wide variety of problems from mere quirkiness to not working at all.
Are you using reasonably modern hardware and Windows
XP?

Yes. I upgrade my computer every 3 years.

Ah, that's your problem. Leave it alone if it's working. I upgrade my
computers when they break which, unfortunately, hasn't been often
enough lately.


--
I'm really Mike Rivers )
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
news:znr1096916320k@trad...

In article
writes:

What problems?
A wide variety of problems from mere quirkiness to not working at all.
Are you using reasonably modern hardware and Windows
XP?

Yes. I upgrade my computer every 3 years.

Ah, that's your problem.

Yes I know. Unfortunately I have to make a living using the computer for
other things, like programming. Seems like everytime I get a Windows
upgrade or install much of anything, it breaks the music applications. I've
gotten pretty good at getting things working though there have been times
where I've had to start over with a fresh install of everything.

--Nick

"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
news:znr1096916320k@trad...

In article
writes:

What problems?
A wide variety of problems from mere quirkiness to not working at all.
Are you using reasonably modern hardware and Windows
XP?

Yes. I upgrade my computer every 3 years.

Ah, that's your problem.

Yes I know. Unfortunately I have to make a living using the computer for
other things, like programming. Seems like everytime I get a Windows
upgrade or install much of anything, it breaks the music applications. I've
gotten pretty good at getting things working though there have been times
where I've had to start over with a fresh install of everything.

--Nick

In article writes:

What problems?
A wide variety of problems from mere quirkiness to not working at all.
Are you using reasonably modern hardware and Windows
XP?

Yes. I upgrade my computer every 3 years.

Ah, that's your problem. Leave it alone if it's working. I upgrade my
computers when they break which, unfortunately, hasn't been often
enough lately.


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"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:05:17 GMT, "Nick"
wrote:

FWIW, I have the Lynx Two and previously owned the Echo Layla 20. That's
not really a fair comparison because the newer Layla is probably better,
but
I certainly have been very happy with the sound quality of the Lynx Two.

I have had frequent problems with Windows drivers for both though, which
can
really be maddening. I would rate the hardware for Lynx A+ and for Layla
B.
I would rate the software driver support for both companies a D.

What problems?

A wide variety of problems from mere quirkiness to not working at all.

Are you using reasonably modern hardware and Windows
XP?

Yes. I upgrade my computer every 3 years.

It is impossible to know if such problems are the driver, the audio
software, or something else. I suspect the drivers.

--Nick

On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:05:17 GMT, "Nick"
wrote:

FWIW, I have the Lynx Two and previously owned the Echo Layla 20. That's
not really a fair comparison because the newer Layla is probably better, but
I certainly have been very happy with the sound quality of the Lynx Two.

I have had frequent problems with Windows drivers for both though, which can
really be maddening. I would rate the hardware for Lynx A+ and for Layla B.
I would rate the software driver support for both companies a D.

What problems? Are you using reasonably modern hardware and Windows
XP?


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FWIW, I have the Lynx Two and previously owned the Echo Layla 20. That's
not really a fair comparison because the newer Layla is probably better, but
I certainly have been very happy with the sound quality of the Lynx Two.

I have had frequent problems with Windows drivers for both though, which can
really be maddening. I would rate the hardware for Lynx A+ and for Layla B.
I would rate the software driver support for both companies a D.

--Nick

I have a Lynx II that replaced an Echo Gina 24. The Lynx sounds much
better than the Gina ever did. However, I've owned two Echo cards and
they have been rock solid performers. Great drivers and support when
I asked for it. The lynx
just sounds better. FWIW, I use the Lynx ASIO drivers in Sonar 4.
Lynx doesn't have a production WDM driver yet.

DaveT

FWIW, I have the Lynx Two and previously owned the Echo Layla 20. That's
not really a fair comparison because the newer Layla is probably better, but
I certainly have been very happy with the sound quality of the Lynx Two.

I have had frequent problems with Windows drivers for both though, which can
really be maddening. I would rate the hardware for Lynx A+ and for Layla B.
I would rate the software driver support for both companies a D.

--Nick

I have a Lynx II that replaced an Echo Gina 24. The Lynx sounds much
better than the Gina ever did. However, I've owned two Echo cards and
they have been rock solid performers. Great drivers and support when
I asked for it. The lynx
just sounds better. FWIW, I use the Lynx ASIO drivers in Sonar 4.
Lynx doesn't have a production WDM driver yet.

DaveT

"Michael C. Monroe" wrote in message
...
Is there a Tom's Hardware-like site out there that will compare these 3
main home-studio soundcard lines head-to-head?

I really can't decide between the three companies.

FWIW, I have the Lynx Two and previously owned the Echo Layla 20. That's
not really a fair comparison because the newer Layla is probably better, but
I certainly have been very happy with the sound quality of the Lynx Two.

I have had frequent problems with Windows drivers for both though, which can
really be maddening. I would rate the hardware for Lynx A+ and for Layla B.
I would rate the software driver support for both companies a D.

--Nick

I really can't decide between the three companies.


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