My Newsreader is a PITA to look for groups in(it does not have a search
feature)

I am beginneing to add live video projection/production to my service
can anyone recommed a group or resource where I can lurk and learn about
cameras, switchers, efx, screens and techniques?
Thanks
George

rec.video.desktop
rec.video.production
rec.video

"George" wrote in message
...
My Newsreader is a PITA to look for groups in(it does not have a search
feature)

I am beginneing to add live video projection/production to my service
can anyone recommed a group or resource where I can lurk and learn about
cameras, switchers, efx, screens and techniques?
Thanks
George

rec.video.desktop
rec.video.production
rec.video

"George" wrote in message
...
My Newsreader is a PITA to look for groups in(it does not have a search
feature)

I am beginneing to add live video projection/production to my service
can anyone recommed a group or resource where I can lurk and learn about
cameras, switchers, efx, screens and techniques?
Thanks
George

In article _G%5d.5211$ku4.1304@trnddc01, "Joe"
wrote:

rec.video.desktop
rec.video.production
rec.video


Thanks I will check them out
Ge

In article _G%5d.5211$ku4.1304@trnddc01, "Joe"
wrote:

rec.video.desktop
rec.video.production
rec.video


Thanks I will check them out
Ge

George wrote in message ...
In article _G%5d.5211$ku4.1304@trnddc01, "Joe"
wrote:

rec.video.desktop
rec.video.production
rec.video


Thanks I will check them out
Ge



There's another poster at r.v.p. who posts as "George", so you may
want to use a different handle if you post there.

Mikey Wozniak
Nova Music Productions
This sig is haiku

George wrote in message ...
In article _G%5d.5211$ku4.1304@trnddc01, "Joe"
wrote:

rec.video.desktop
rec.video.production
rec.video


Thanks I will check them out
Ge



There's another poster at r.v.p. who posts as "George", so you may
want to use a different handle if you post there.

Mikey Wozniak
Nova Music Productions
This sig is haiku

In article ,
(Mikey) wrote:

George wrote in message
...
In article _G%5d.5211$ku4.1304@trnddc01, "Joe"
wrote:

rec.video.desktop
rec.video.production
rec.video


Thanks I will check them out
Ge



There's another poster at r.v.p. who posts as "George", so you may
want to use a different handle if you post there.

I doubt I will be posting
I don't have the solid experiance to get behind with video that I do
with audio
before you know it someone will be telling me is is desirable to clip a
video signal beacuse the trailing wave form will look better
George

In article ,
(Mikey) wrote:

George wrote in message
...
In article _G%5d.5211$ku4.1304@trnddc01, "Joe"
wrote:

rec.video.desktop
rec.video.production
rec.video


Thanks I will check them out
Ge



There's another poster at r.v.p. who posts as "George", so you may
want to use a different handle if you post there.

I doubt I will be posting
I don't have the solid experiance to get behind with video that I do
with audio
before you know it someone will be telling me is is desirable to clip a
video signal beacuse the trailing wave form will look better
George

"George" wrote ...
before you know it someone will be telling me is is desirable to clip a
video signal beacuse the trailing wave form will look better

White-clipping in the video is a lot easier on the eyes than FS
clipping on the audio track is on the ears! :-)

There are a few regulars and semi-regulars worthy of your kill-
file over on the video newsgroups, but on the whole they seem
a lot more on-topic than r.a.p

"George" wrote ...
before you know it someone will be telling me is is desirable to clip a
video signal beacuse the trailing wave form will look better

White-clipping in the video is a lot easier on the eyes than FS
clipping on the audio track is on the ears! :-)

There are a few regulars and semi-regulars worthy of your kill-
file over on the video newsgroups, but on the whole they seem
a lot more on-topic than r.a.p

"Richard Crowley" wrote in message ...
"George" wrote ...
before you know it someone will be telling me is is desirable to clip a
video signal beacuse the trailing wave form will look better

White-clipping in the video is a lot easier on the eyes than FS
clipping on the audio track is on the ears! :-)

There are a few regulars and semi-regulars worthy of your kill-
file over on the video newsgroups, but on the whole they seem
a lot more on-topic than r.a.p

So true, at least at a.v.p., where I mostly lurk. Rich Crowley has
been helpful to me - thanks again, Rich. What with all the flaming
here, it's nice to say good things for a change...

Mikey Wozniak
Nova Music Productions
This sig is haiku

"Richard Crowley" wrote in message ...
"George" wrote ...
before you know it someone will be telling me is is desirable to clip a
video signal beacuse the trailing wave form will look better

White-clipping in the video is a lot easier on the eyes than FS
clipping on the audio track is on the ears! :-)

There are a few regulars and semi-regulars worthy of your kill-
file over on the video newsgroups, but on the whole they seem
a lot more on-topic than r.a.p

So true, at least at a.v.p., where I mostly lurk. Rich Crowley has
been helpful to me - thanks again, Rich. What with all the flaming
here, it's nice to say good things for a change...

Mikey Wozniak
Nova Music Productions
This sig is haiku

George wrote:

In article ,
(Mikey) wrote:

There's another poster at r.v.p. who posts as "George", so you may
want to use a different handle if you post there.

I doubt I will be posting
I don't have the solid experiance to get behind with video that I do
with audio

Do you not have the "duty to bring forth protest to the great wrongs that
are being forced on this country" in rec.video.production that you claim
to have here in rec.audio.pro?

--
================================================== ======================
Michael Kesti | "And like, one and one don't make
| two, one and one make one."
| - The Who, Bargain

George wrote:

In article ,
(Mikey) wrote:

There's another poster at r.v.p. who posts as "George", so you may
want to use a different handle if you post there.

I doubt I will be posting
I don't have the solid experiance to get behind with video that I do
with audio

Do you not have the "duty to bring forth protest to the great wrongs that
are being forced on this country" in rec.video.production that you claim
to have here in rec.audio.pro?

--
================================================== ======================
Michael Kesti | "And like, one and one don't make
| two, one and one make one."
| - The Who, Bargain

Mikey wrote:

Rich Crowley has
been helpful to me - thanks again, Rich

He can't help himself; he's just a helpful guy. Amen.

--
ha

Mikey wrote:

Rich Crowley has
been helpful to me - thanks again, Rich

He can't help himself; he's just a helpful guy. Amen.

--
ha

George wrote:
In article ,
(Mikey) wrote:

There's another poster at r.v.p. who posts as "George", so you may
want to use a different handle if you post there.

I doubt I will be posting
I don't have the solid experiance to get behind with video that I do
with audio

Do you not have the "duty to bring forth protest to the great wrongs that
are being forced on this country" in rec.video.production that you claim
to have here in rec.audio.pro?

If they are great wrongs like autofocus that can't be disabled, cameras with
unbalanced audio inputs and undefeatable automatic gain control, as well
as the &^%$&^!!!! inability to manually white balance, I strongly think
folks have a duty to protest them in r.v.p.
--scott

I just finished watching the Space Ship One coverage... no two shots had
the same exposure or color... even the 2-shot of the announcers had some
freaking autoiris that kept cranking open and closed as the lighting changed.
Just awful. Why do people put up with this?
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

George wrote:
In article ,
(Mikey) wrote:

There's another poster at r.v.p. who posts as "George", so you may
want to use a different handle if you post there.

I doubt I will be posting
I don't have the solid experiance to get behind with video that I do
with audio

Do you not have the "duty to bring forth protest to the great wrongs that
are being forced on this country" in rec.video.production that you claim
to have here in rec.audio.pro?

If they are great wrongs like autofocus that can't be disabled, cameras with
unbalanced audio inputs and undefeatable automatic gain control, as well
as the &^%$&^!!!! inability to manually white balance, I strongly think
folks have a duty to protest them in r.v.p.
--scott

I just finished watching the Space Ship One coverage... no two shots had
the same exposure or color... even the 2-shot of the announcers had some
freaking autoiris that kept cranking open and closed as the lighting changed.
Just awful. Why do people put up with this?
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Why do people put up with this? BRBR

Because they don't know any better?


Scott Fraser

Why do people put up with this? BRBR

Because they don't know any better?


Scott Fraser

ScotFraser wrote:
Why do people put up with this? BRBR

Because they don't know any better?

People have been watching TV all their lives. What is the statistic now,
that the average American watches something like five hours of TV a day?
With that sort of experience, you'd think people would be more annoyed by
bad video since they have spent so much time watching at least decent video.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

ScotFraser wrote:
Why do people put up with this? BRBR

Because they don't know any better?

People have been watching TV all their lives. What is the statistic now,
that the average American watches something like five hours of TV a day?
With that sort of experience, you'd think people would be more annoyed by
bad video since they have spent so much time watching at least decent video.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Scott Dorsey wrote:

I just finished watching the Space Ship One coverage... no two shots had
the same exposure or color... even the 2-shot of the announcers had some
freaking autoiris that kept cranking open and closed as the lighting changed.
Just awful. Why do people put up with this?

They don't "put up" with it, because for the most part of the
population, attention spans are insufficient to allow such niceties to
be noticed.

You probably think I'm kidding.

--
ha

Scott Dorsey wrote:

I just finished watching the Space Ship One coverage... no two shots had
the same exposure or color... even the 2-shot of the announcers had some
freaking autoiris that kept cranking open and closed as the lighting changed.
Just awful. Why do people put up with this?

They don't "put up" with it, because for the most part of the
population, attention spans are insufficient to allow such niceties to
be noticed.

You probably think I'm kidding.

--
ha

hank alrich wrote:
Scott Dorsey wrote:

I just finished watching the Space Ship One coverage... no two shots had
the same exposure or color... even the 2-shot of the announcers had some
freaking autoiris that kept cranking open and closed as the lighting changed.
Just awful. Why do people put up with this?

They don't "put up" with it, because for the most part of the
population, attention spans are insufficient to allow such niceties to
be noticed.

You probably think I'm kidding.

Now they are doing an interview with a bunch of crew members, with the sun
over their shoulders. You can't make out any of their faces in the shot...
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

hank alrich wrote:
Scott Dorsey wrote:

I just finished watching the Space Ship One coverage... no two shots had
the same exposure or color... even the 2-shot of the announcers had some
freaking autoiris that kept cranking open and closed as the lighting changed.
Just awful. Why do people put up with this?

They don't "put up" with it, because for the most part of the
population, attention spans are insufficient to allow such niceties to
be noticed.

You probably think I'm kidding.

Now they are doing an interview with a bunch of crew members, with the sun
over their shoulders. You can't make out any of their faces in the shot...
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Scott Dorsey wrote:

hank alrich wrote:
Scott Dorsey wrote:

I just finished watching the Space Ship One coverage... no two shots
had the same exposure or color... even the 2-shot of the announcers had
some freaking autoiris that kept cranking open and closed as the
lighting changed. Just awful. Why do people put up with this?

They don't "put up" with it, because for the most part of the
population, attention spans are insufficient to allow such niceties to
be noticed.

You probably think I'm kidding.

Now they are doing an interview with a bunch of crew members, with the sun
over their shoulders. You can't make out any of their faces in the shot...

The air here this morning is crisp and clear, carrying the scent of dew
on the forest and meadow, with the sun illuminating the lovely fall
foliage. Soon I must play guitar. That's the bad news; the good news is
that I do not have television reception.

--
ha

Scott Dorsey wrote:

hank alrich wrote:
Scott Dorsey wrote:

I just finished watching the Space Ship One coverage... no two shots
had the same exposure or color... even the 2-shot of the announcers had
some freaking autoiris that kept cranking open and closed as the
lighting changed. Just awful. Why do people put up with this?

They don't "put up" with it, because for the most part of the
population, attention spans are insufficient to allow such niceties to
be noticed.

You probably think I'm kidding.

Now they are doing an interview with a bunch of crew members, with the sun
over their shoulders. You can't make out any of their faces in the shot...

The air here this morning is crisp and clear, carrying the scent of dew
on the forest and meadow, with the sun illuminating the lovely fall
foliage. Soon I must play guitar. That's the bad news; the good news is
that I do not have television reception.

--
ha

The air here this morning is crisp and clear, carrying the scent of dew
on the forest and meadow, with the sun illuminating the lovely fall
foliage. Soon I must play guitar. That's the bad news; the good news is
that I do not have television reception. BRBR

I hate you. I love you but I hate you.

Scott Fraser

The air here this morning is crisp and clear, carrying the scent of dew
on the forest and meadow, with the sun illuminating the lovely fall
foliage. Soon I must play guitar. That's the bad news; the good news is
that I do not have television reception. BRBR

I hate you. I love you but I hate you.

Scott Fraser

In article ,
"Michael R. Kesti" wrote:

George wrote:

In article ,
(Mikey) wrote:

There's another poster at r.v.p. who posts as "George", so you may
want to use a different handle if you post there.

I doubt I will be posting
I don't have the solid experiance to get behind with video that I do
with audio

Do you not have the "duty to bring forth protest to the great wrongs that
are being forced on this country" in rec.video.production that you claim
to have here in rec.audio.pro?

once I know the posters, and they know me then I will address them with
that
as of yet I still have not figured out how to get to them without
manually scanning 60,000NGs
george

In article ,
"Michael R. Kesti" wrote:

George wrote:

In article ,
(Mikey) wrote:

There's another poster at r.v.p. who posts as "George", so you may
want to use a different handle if you post there.

I doubt I will be posting
I don't have the solid experiance to get behind with video that I do
with audio

Do you not have the "duty to bring forth protest to the great wrongs that
are being forced on this country" in rec.video.production that you claim
to have here in rec.audio.pro?

once I know the posters, and they know me then I will address them with
that
as of yet I still have not figured out how to get to them without
manually scanning 60,000NGs
george

George wrote:

as of yet I still have not figured out how to get to them without
manually scanning 60,000NGs

Open your "Show All Groups" window and use "Find" to find group names
containing whatever you're after.

--
ha

George wrote:

as of yet I still have not figured out how to get to them without
manually scanning 60,000NGs

Open your "Show All Groups" window and use "Find" to find group names
containing whatever you're after.

--
ha

ScotFraser wrote:
Why do people put up with this? BRBR

Because they don't know any better?

"Scott Dorsey" wrote ...
People have been watching TV all their lives. What is the
statistic now, that the average American watches something
like five hours of TV a day? With that sort of experience,
you'd think people would be more annoyed by bad video
since they have spent so much time watching at least decent
video.

No single entity has done more to reduce the state of the art
of video than MTV, inventors of "shaky-cam". The insipid
"reality" shows finished off the job. (Although there is a
currently open question about audio for shows like "The
Apprentice" over on news:rec.arts.movies.production.sound)

ScotFraser wrote:
Why do people put up with this? BRBR

Because they don't know any better?

"Scott Dorsey" wrote ...
People have been watching TV all their lives. What is the
statistic now, that the average American watches something
like five hours of TV a day? With that sort of experience,
you'd think people would be more annoyed by bad video
since they have spent so much time watching at least decent
video.

No single entity has done more to reduce the state of the art
of video than MTV, inventors of "shaky-cam". The insipid
"reality" shows finished off the job. (Although there is a
currently open question about audio for shows like "The
Apprentice" over on news:rec.arts.movies.production.sound)

People have been watching TV all their lives. What is the statistic now,
that the average American watches something like five hours of TV a day?

And these are employed people? Sheesh, who has that kind of time?

With that sort of experience, you'd think people would be more annoyed by
bad video since they have spent so much time watching at least decent video.

But apparently they aren't learning anything from all that watching.

Scott Fraser

People have been watching TV all their lives. What is the statistic now,
that the average American watches something like five hours of TV a day?

And these are employed people? Sheesh, who has that kind of time?

With that sort of experience, you'd think people would be more annoyed by
bad video since they have spent so much time watching at least decent video.

But apparently they aren't learning anything from all that watching.

Scott Fraser

MTV, inventors of "shaky-cam".

Bad handheld camera technique , as chic arty ironic anti-technique, existed
long before MTV got into the act.


Scott Fraser