Home |
Search |
Today's Posts |
#1
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]()
What materials? I suppose it needs a surface that wont reflect mid and
high frequences. sincerely Lars Farm -- lars farm // http://www.farm.se |
#2
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]()
best materials are plastics such as polyethylene but you could also try
wood, the disc should not be too thin Lars Farm wrote: What materials? I suppose it needs a surface that wont reflect mid and high frequences. sincerely Lars Farm |
#3
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]() Lars Farm wrote: What materials? I suppose it needs a surface that wont reflect mid and high frequences. Yes. I used lamb's wool on mine but I really have no idea how good that is. I would suspect not very from my disappointment in the recordings I made with it and Earthworks TC30K's. Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
#4
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]()
What materials? I suppose it needs a surface that wont reflect mid and
high frequences. The MBHO pre-made one (ain't I lazy?) is made out of a thick PVC, a good quarter inch or so. The material glued to it appears to be simply foam. |
#5
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]()
In article 1gfce88.h0aftj4idwaoN%mail.addr.can.be.found@www. farm.se,
(Lars Farm) wrote: What materials? I suppose it needs a surface that wont reflect mid and high frequences. I use lambskin, wool side out on mine. -- Mike Clayton |
#6
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]() |
#7
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]() Mike Clayton wrote: In article , wrote: Lars Farm wrote: What materials? I suppose it needs a surface that wont reflect mid and high frequences. Yes. I used lamb's wool on mine but I really have no idea how good that is. I would suspect not very from my disappointment in the recordings I made with it and Earthworks TC30K's. I use lamb skin velcroed to a 12" 5 ply plywood disc, with suitable threaded studs to take the microphone clamps. I've used it with AKG 480B omnis and Schoeps omnis with excellent results. Bob's and my mileage obviously vary. Yeah, I seem to be about the only person I've heard report on a Jecklin that was not happy with it. The center of mine was two LP's sandwiching a 3/8" cork core glued between. The mics were a matched pair with calibration curves. I mounted the mics themselves on a dual Sabra bracket and placed the disk between them rather than mounting them to the disk. I've still got it, so someday I need to revisit the thing and see if I can figure out what was (or wasn't) wrong. Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
#8
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]() |
#9
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]()
Bob Cain wrote:
Mike Clayton wrote: In article , wrote: Lars Farm wrote: What materials? I suppose it needs a surface that wont reflect mid and high frequences. Yes. I used lamb's wool on mine but I really have no idea how good that is. I would suspect not very from my disappointment in the recordings I made with it and Earthworks TC30K's. I use lamb skin velcroed to a 12" 5 ply plywood disc, with suitable threaded studs to take the microphone clamps. I've used it with AKG 480B omnis and Schoeps omnis with excellent results. Bob's and my mileage obviously vary. Yeah, I seem to be about the only person I've heard report on a Jecklin that was not happy with it. The center of mine was two LP's sandwiching a 3/8" cork core glued between. The mics were a matched pair with calibration curves. I mounted the mics themselves on a dual Sabra bracket and placed the disk between them rather than mounting them to the disk. I've still got it, so someday I need to revisit the thing and see if I can figure out what was (or wasn't) wrong. Did you place the mics at the center? Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein -- ******************************************* * My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk * ******************************************* |
#10
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]() Peter Larsen wrote: Yeah, I seem to be about the only person I've heard report on a Jecklin that was not happy with it. The center of mine was two LP's sandwiching a 3/8" cork core glued between. The mics were a matched pair with calibration curves. I mounted the mics themselves on a dual Sabra bracket and placed the disk between them rather than mounting them to the disk. I've still got it, so someday I need to revisit the thing and see if I can figure out what was (or wasn't) wrong. Did you place the mics at the center? Yeah, I had little tassles that came out from the LP center hole to get them at the center and at the correct distance. Hmmm, I'll bet you are going to tell me that that's the wrong thing to do. :-) Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
#11
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]()
Bob Cain wrote:
Peter Larsen wrote: [jecklin woes] Did you place the mics at the center? Yeah, I had little tassles that came out from the LP center hole to get them at the center and at the correct distance. Hmmm, I'll bet you are going to tell me that that's the wrong thing to do. :-) I don't know this for sure. But I would offset the mic position from center to around 3:5 on the diameter, and btw. also use an elipsoid with that width to length ratio. Otoh a good Jecklin setup that I have heard was just a piece of rectangular plywood with carpet tiles on the sides. From memory it was something like 6 to 8 inches long and some 3 to 4 inches high. Basically I think your 12" setup is too much larger than an average head to sound right - not that I understand why it should be "head sized", but so appears to be the case. A Jecklin setup to my knowledge, and no - I haven't ever tried one, nor do I plan to so do, is likely to always give a passable result, and thus can be a good choice for "no sound check" location recordings. Bob Kind regards Peter Larsen -- ******************************************* * My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk * ******************************************* |
#12
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]() Bob Cain wrote: Peter Larsen wrote: [jecklin woes] Did you place the mics at the center? Yeah, I had little tassles that came out from the LP center hole to get them at the center and at the correct distance. Hmmm, I'll bet you are going to tell me that that's the wrong thing to do. :-) I don't know this for sure. But I would offset the mic position from center to around 3:5 on the diameter, and btw. also use an elipsoid with that width to length ratio. Otoh a good Jecklin setup that I have heard was just a piece of rectangular plywood with carpet tiles on the sides. From memory it was something like 6 to 8 inches long and some 3 to 4 inches high. Basically I think your 12" setup is too much larger than an average head to sound right - not that I understand why it should be "head sized", but so appears to be the case. A Jecklin setup to my knowledge, and no - I haven't ever tried one, nor do I plan to so do, is likely to always give a passable result, and thus can be a good choice for "no sound check" location recordings. Bob Kind regards Peter Larsen -- ******************************************* * My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk * ******************************************* A Jecklin is not suitable for a "no sound check" situation' Placement is a lot more critical than ORTF and small variations can produce big balance differences. I find that placing the capsules at the center of the disc is a big no no and I place them further toward the front. I do use the strings to get consistancy on spacing. My current disc is of the dimensions given in the original OSS recording system by Jurg Jecklin 300 mm. My origina slightly larger 12" discalso worked well but the additional size wasn't necessary. My disc is plywood, covered with foam and felt. Richard H. Kuschel "I canna change the law of physics."-----Scotty |
Reply |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
![]() |
||||
Thread | Forum | |||
45 Hi-Res Disc Reviews | Marketplace | |||
Seek untrackable vinyl disc titles and numbers | High End Audio | |||
Stereo saying "No Disc" please help! | Tech | |||
Jecklin disc construction using cow-hide | Pro Audio | |||
SACD listing Addenda | High End Audio |