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Ken Drescher
 
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Brian,

Your recent zoning complaint claiming I am running an audio repair business out
of my residence was dismissed as unfounded after I had the zoning administrator
contact the investigator who SEARCHED our family's home (scaring my wife and
young children while I was at work) back in Nov. 2002 when you send your other
false complaint claiming I was holding stolen audio equipment in my home.

Both the County Zoning Office and Sheriffs Office have now been fully informed
about your continued harassment. Please reread Robert's latest advice. Trust
me, NO ONE will even miss you. Not even your old high school buddy in Chicago.

Here is what the Investigator sent me when I brought up your earlier harassment
so I could put the zoning administrator in contact with him:

Subj: Report
Date: 8/26/2004 2:46:57 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: confidential
To:

Ken,

There was no formal report on the matter from 2002. The info. we got came in
through a crimestoppers tip if I remember correctly. It was unfounded based on
our investigation. You can give my name and office number (#xxx-xxxx) to
anyone who may need to verify this and speak to me about this matter.

signed

For convenience I posted your earlier complaint below. When I receive the
latest BS zoning claim I'll post it publically too.

From: David Ellison ]
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 1:58 PM
To:
Cc:
Subject: Illegal Business Operation

Gentlemen:

I am writing to you because of numerous complaints we have received about a
business called "Audio.Net" being operated by someone named Ken Drescher at
10 King George Road, Greenville, SC 29615 in your county, and the State of
South Carolina. We understand from Greenwood (SIC) City that they are NOT in
their city limits. This €ścompany€? is advertising and selling used
secondhand audio equipment, and we have been advised that some of this
equipment is listed as 'stolen' on other databases.

This business is advertised at:
http://members.aol.com/KDresch/audio.net.html

Without proper registration, it is next to impossible for aggrevied
customers to seek legal redress against this person/company.

This business seems to be in violation of both zoning regulations in your
county and state, as well as business operation laws. These include:

ARTICLE II. SECONDHAND GOODS DEALERS
Sec. 28-31. Records of purchases.
Every person licensed to do business in the state who, in the course of such
business, buys what is commonly known as secondhand goods, shall keep a book
in which shall be written, at the time of every such purchase, a description
of the article purchased, with the name, race, color and residence of the
person from whom received and the day and hour when such purchase was made.
Such book shall be open to inspection by the chief of police or by any
police officer of the city at all reasonable times. A certified copy of such
daily records shall be made and filed before noon each day except Sunday in
the office of the chief of police.

We would appreciate your prompt investigation of this unlicensed business,
their operation of this business in a residential area, and any information
you might have on the individual conducting this unlicensed business in your
city/state.

Thank you.

David Ellison (AKA Brian McCarty)

For those of you really getting into how twisted Brian is. You can read on to
see his relationship with David Ellison. He uses David Ellision as an alias:

Brian used to post under the email address before
Robert Morien's "truths" forced Brian to post only using forged ID's. You can
read this Dec, 2001 archived newsgroup post from David Ellison
) to show David Ellison is indeed a McCarty alias:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=el...40worldjazz.co
m&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&scoring=r&selm=9508110803.AA48577%40pri menet
..com&rnum=5

All I can say is Brian McCarty is one screwed up scooper.

Ken Drescher

Pa href=http://members.aol.com/KDresch/audio.net.htmlaudio.net/a, Used
Audio ShopPNow entering our 9th year of operation.P100% Customer
Satisfaction Guaranteed since 1995.

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Brian, it really isn't that hard.
Take the pistol from your night table.
Now this is important: Be sure it is loaded.
Feel the cold blue steel.
Cock the action.
Put the barrel in your mouth.
Pull the trigger.

It's that simple, Brian. You have nothing left in life, except years of
loneliness. No one wants you. No one loves you.

Do the dutch and your troubles will be over.


"Ken Drescher" wrote in message
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Brian,

Your recent zoning complaint claiming I am running an audio repair

business out
of my residence was dismissed as unfounded after I had the zoning

administrator
contact the investigator who SEARCHED our family's home (scaring my wife

and
young children while I was at work) back in Nov. 2002 when you send your

other
false complaint claiming I was holding stolen audio equipment in my home.

Both the County Zoning Office and Sheriffs Office have now been fully

informed
about your continued harassment. Please reread Robert's latest advice.

Trust
me, NO ONE will even miss you. Not even your old high school buddy in

Chicago.

Here is what the Investigator sent me when I brought up your earlier

harassment
so I could put the zoning administrator in contact with him:

Subj: Report
Date: 8/26/2004 2:46:57 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: confidential
To:

Ken,

There was no formal report on the matter from 2002. The info. we got came

in
through a crimestoppers tip if I remember correctly. It was unfounded

based on
our investigation. You can give my name and office number (#xxx-xxxx) to
anyone who may need to verify this and speak to me about this matter.

signed

For convenience I posted your earlier complaint below. When I receive the
latest BS zoning claim I'll post it publically too.

From: David Ellison ]
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 1:58 PM
To:
Cc:
Subject: Illegal Business Operation

Gentlemen:

I am writing to you because of numerous complaints we have received about

a
business called "Audio.Net" being operated by someone named Ken Drescher

at
10 King George Road, Greenville, SC 29615 in your county, and the State of
South Carolina. We understand from Greenwood (SIC) City that they are NOT

in
their city limits. This "company" is advertising and selling used
secondhand audio equipment, and we have been advised that some of this
equipment is listed as 'stolen' on other databases.

This business is advertised at:
http://members.aol.com/KDresch/audio.net.html

Without proper registration, it is next to impossible for aggrevied
customers to seek legal redress against this person/company.

This business seems to be in violation of both zoning regulations in your
county and state, as well as business operation laws. These include:

ARTICLE II. SECONDHAND GOODS DEALERS
Sec. 28-31. Records of purchases.
Every person licensed to do business in the state who, in the course of

such
business, buys what is commonly known as secondhand goods, shall keep a

book
in which shall be written, at the time of every such purchase, a

description
of the article purchased, with the name, race, color and residence of the
person from whom received and the day and hour when such purchase was

made.
Such book shall be open to inspection by the chief of police or by any
police officer of the city at all reasonable times. A certified copy of

such
daily records shall be made and filed before noon each day except Sunday

in
the office of the chief of police.

We would appreciate your prompt investigation of this unlicensed business,
their operation of this business in a residential area, and any

information
you might have on the individual conducting this unlicensed business in

your
city/state.

Thank you.

David Ellison (AKA Brian McCarty)

For those of you really getting into how twisted Brian is. You can read

on to
see his relationship with David Ellison. He uses David Ellision as an

alias:

Brian used to post under the email address before
Robert Morien's "truths" forced Brian to post only using forged ID's. You

can
read this Dec, 2001 archived newsgroup post from David Ellison
) to show David Ellison is indeed a McCarty

alias:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=el...40worldjazz.co
m&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&scoring=r&selm=9508110803.AA48577%40pri menet
.com&rnum=5

All I can say is Brian McCarty is one screwed up scooper.

Ken Drescher

Pa href=http://members.aol.com/KDresch/audio.net.htmlaudio.net/a,

Used
Audio ShopPNow entering our 9th year of operation.P100% Customer
Satisfaction Guaranteed since 1995.



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"Robert Morein" wrote:

Brian, it really isn't that hard.
Take the pistol from your night table.
Now this is important: Be sure it is loaded.
Feel the cold blue steel.
Cock the action.
Put the barrel in your mouth.
Pull the trigger.


How come you never pull the trigger Boobie?
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A brief Brian L. McCarty FAQ:

Brian L. McCarty is an American national with permanent residency in the
Trinity Beach suburb of Cairns, Australia. He resides in the Coral Sands
Apartments complex, at 65 Vasey Esplanade.

McCarty was once a businessman with pretensions of legitmacy. After a string
of business failures, it appears he attempted investment fraud to refinance
his activities. He used these websites: WorldJAZZ.com (disconnected),
Coralseastudios.com (still up), and JAZZWORLDLTD.COM, a password protected
site, in conjunction with a notorious investment scam boiler room operation,
Benson-Dupont of Japan.

Brian L. McCarty's harassment of Ken Drescher using local police authorities
is not a one-time affair. He tried it a few years ago with Ken, and has also
targeted other sellers on this group. While living in Australia, he files
complaints under false names with local police authorities here. Ken has
kindly reproduced one such complaint, filed under the fictitious name "David
Ellison". McCarty has used this name back to 1996 as a fictitious business
partner.

With one exception, we are not aware of any case where action has been taken
based on these complaints. A "complaint" is generally acted on by local
authorities only if it is made by a resident. However, numerous individuals
have had to respond to police complaints. Ken's wife was frightened several
years ago by such an incident. He's been complaining aboutDonald Winslow in
Portland, Oregon, for two years now without effect. The complaint was
dismissed, but Brian keeps referring to "investigation is in progress."

In other cases, McCarty has employed telephone harassment against
individuals.

In each case, we have assisted in clearing up the matter by providing our
full dossiers on McCarty to the affected individuals and to law enforcement.

It appears that McCarty's brain has some weird mental arithmetic going, in
that he accuses others of doing exactly what he actually does, which is to
misrepresent himself via fraudulent business enterprises. On this newsgroup,
his targets are people who sell audio equipment. In McCarty's scams, his
targets are investors with money to burn.

Brian L. McCarty's actions are not merely misposting from the newsgroup.
McCarty harasses people in the real world, by trying to have them arrested,
and by trying to destroy their businesses.

This is what mental illness does to a person.
The penalties for Brian have been substantial.
As a direct result of Brian's harassment, the following things have
occurred:

1. ABN Amro pulled their funding, causing Coral Seas to collapse.
2. His attempt to revive Coral Seas using fake identities was exposed, and
that collapsed also.
3. The "WorldJAZZ" scam was forced to fold.
4. Jeff Wexler keeps his distance.
5. His recent application to the Cairns zoning board was rejected, because
they "happened" to know what's going on.
6. Professionals in Cairns who once welcomed him now keep away.

I can't say I know everything that's wrong about Brian, but he obviously has
a couple of "idee fixe":

1. that what he does on usenet isn't picked up by the real world.
2. that posting handles, ie., sockpuppets are a shield.

Some have remarked that I appear to be almost as crazy as McCarty. Well,
most of us have little corners of irrationality, but this is what McCarty
did to me and my friends:

1. He put my neighbor, an elderly lady, in the hospital. Her husband was
near death in a nursing home, and McCarty called her at 2 a.m. every night
for a month. Every time he called, she thought it was the nursing home
telling her that her hubby had died. After a month of this, she collapsed.
2. He damaged my relations with another neighbor.
3. He destroyed Ted Lindblad's business, and called Ted's pastor and told
him that Ted was a child molestor.
4. He brought the sheriff to Ken Drescher's home with accusations that he
was dealing in stolen goods.
5. He got a man kicked out of his house in Dover, Delaware, on the malarkey
charge that he was running a business out of his house, because it was
packed to the gills with hifi equipment (isn't that dangerous! .
6. He infiltrated my film project and maliciously sent out messages to the
participants in my name, destroying my relationship with one of the
participants.
7. For six weeks, he used the About.com mailing lists to email-bomb almost a
dozen people.
8. Various other things.

So, to those of you who think this is a flame war, it isn't really. It's a
real confrontation that spills onto usenet.

It is strange that Brian is unable to comprehend that there are real
consequences for him, his wife Sandra, and his son, for keeping up this
behavior.



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"Robert Morein" wrote:

A brief Brian L. McCarty FAQ:



1. He put my neighbor, an elderly lady, in the hospital. Her husband was
near death in a nursing home, and McCarty called her at 2 a.m. every night
for a month. Every time he called, she thought it was the nursing home
telling her that her hubby had died. After a month of this, she collapsed.


Obviously she couldn't afford call screening or the simple expedient of
reporting this to the phone company/police.

2. He damaged my relations with another neighbor.


I've said it befo That's one hell of a neighbor that Brian can damage
your relations while living in Australia



3. He destroyed Ted Lindblad's business, and called Ted's pastor and told
him that Ted was a child molestor.


And Ted's pastor believed Brian over Ted? Ted must be one hell of a
believable person


4. He brought the sheriff to Ken Drescher's home with accusations that he
was dealing in stolen goods.
5. He got a man kicked out of his house in Dover, Delaware, on the malarkey
charge that he was running a business out of his house, because it was
packed to the gills with hifi equipment (isn't that dangerous! .
6. He infiltrated my film project and maliciously sent out messages to the
participants in my name, destroying my relationship with one of the
participants.


The participant didn't believe you? Wonder why?


7. For six weeks, he used the About.com mailing lists to email-bomb almost a
dozen people.


And About.com was as helpful to you as Comcast.net is to everyone else.


8. Various other things.


These sound juicy. Come on, tell us, tell us, tell us.


So, to those of you who think this is a flame war, it isn't really. It's a
real confrontation that spills onto usenet.


So that makes it the opposite of a flame war: a one sided ****ing
contest.



It is strange that Brian is unable to comprehend that there are real
consequences for him, his wife Sandra, and his son, for keeping up this
behavior.





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"Robert Morein" wrote in message
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snip...

So, to those of you who think this is a flame war, it isn't really. It's a
real confrontation that spills onto usenet.


YES! It is a flame war as far as readers of usenet are concerned.

NO! It's a usenet confrontation that spills into your personal life because
of your obsession with trying to destroy Brian. If you and your zealot
sidekicks just ignored him from the beginning (yes, I know he's a pain in
the ass) and chose not to attack him with all your assinine personal
assaults, you would probably have been spared all the "real" abuse you have
received from him.

Just my opinion - we're all entitled to one.

John


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"John Richards" wrote in message
...

"Robert Morein" wrote in message
...

snip...

So, to those of you who think this is a flame war, it isn't really. It's

a
real confrontation that spills onto usenet.


YES! It is a flame war as far as readers of usenet are concerned.

NO! It's a usenet confrontation that spills into your personal life

because
of your obsession with trying to destroy Brian. If you and your zealot
sidekicks just ignored him from the beginning (yes, I know he's a pain in
the ass) and chose not to attack him with all your assinine personal
assaults, you would probably have been spared all the "real" abuse you

have
received from him.

Just my opinion - we're all entitled to one.

John

John,
If the conflict were solely between McCarty and me, it would be
difficult to refute you. However, there have been absolutely silent victims
in this. A man was selling hifi equipment out of his house. I will not name
him here. While living in Australia, McCarty filed a complaint with the city
in which this man lived. The city chose to ignore it. McCarty then
threatened to sue them for failing to make the municipal website accessible
to the blind. The city reluctantly acted, and required that this man remove
the stock from his house. This inconvenienced him so badly, he sold his
house and moved to another city, where he carries on business, BUT NOT ON
USENET. At no time did the city or anyone else determine that there was
criminal activity. There were no complaints against this man here. He was
well regarded.

In another case, McCarty claimed to authorities that a hifi store was
selling stolen goods. Unknown to him, this store was part of a two-store
incorporated chain, with all their paperwork in order.

Donald Winslow has never said anything about McCarty at all. He sells
cables and a smattering of other things. Two years ago, McCarty complained
to Portland, Oregon. The complaint was dismissed as groundless, but Mr.
Winslow has to constantly put up with McCarty's harassment.

IMHO, you perceive the situation too much from the buyer's point of
view. There are many buyers who subconsciously believe that many dealers are
profiteers. There should always be a healthy competition between buyers and
sellers in setting the price. McCarty seems to have some sort of a
deep-seated anti-profit motive. He has a mental problem that is both caused
and has caused his various business failures. He has an ego like a bladder
that expands to fill all available space. In the past, he has declared his
intention to control posting on this group, essentially to make it his fief.

I admit it gives me continuing pleasure to make McCarty pay terribly for
his obsession. Brian once said we'd never get rid of him. That may be true,
but I'm pleased to see that he has suffered horribly for it. Everyone is
responsible for their actions in this world. Brian derives his pleasure from
making other people on this newsgroup suffer. Actually, there has been
little effect on me personally. Brian has tried to harass me, my friends,
and neighbors, but it doesn't work. I simply show them the dossiers, and
they have been very understanding.

My ethics require me to be responsible to the plight of fellow human
beings. While I understand that my posts may be a nusiance to some, they
inform the many newbie lurkers, so that they can quickly learn to ignore
Brian, as the rest of us do so well when we choose to buy and sell.



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"Robert Morein" wrote in message
...

"John Richards" wrote in message
...

"Robert Morein" wrote in message
...

snip...

So, to those of you who think this is a flame war, it isn't really.

It's
a
real confrontation that spills onto usenet.


YES! It is a flame war as far as readers of usenet are concerned.

NO! It's a usenet confrontation that spills into your personal life

because
of your obsession with trying to destroy Brian. If you and your zealot
sidekicks just ignored him from the beginning (yes, I know he's a pain

in
the ass) and chose not to attack him with all your assinine personal
assaults, you would probably have been spared all the "real" abuse you

have
received from him.

Just my opinion - we're all entitled to one.

John

John,
If the conflict were solely between McCarty and me, it would be
difficult to refute you. However, there have been absolutely silent

victims
in this. A man was selling hifi equipment out of his house. I will not

name
him here. While living in Australia, McCarty filed a complaint with the

city
in which this man lived. The city chose to ignore it. McCarty then
threatened to sue them for failing to make the municipal website

accessible
to the blind. The city reluctantly acted, and required that this man

remove
the stock from his house. This inconvenienced him so badly, he sold his
house and moved to another city, where he carries on business, BUT NOT ON
USENET. At no time did the city or anyone else determine that there was
criminal activity. There were no complaints against this man here. He was
well regarded.


So what's this got to do with you or usenet?


In another case, McCarty claimed to authorities that a hifi store was
selling stolen goods. Unknown to him, this store was part of a two-store
incorporated chain, with all their paperwork in order.

Donald Winslow has never said anything about McCarty at all. He sells
cables and a smattering of other things. Two years ago, McCarty complained
to Portland, Oregon. The complaint was dismissed as groundless, but Mr.
Winslow has to constantly put up with McCarty's harassment.


Again, what's this got to do with you?


IMHO, you perceive the situation too much from the buyer's point of
view. There are many buyers who subconsciously believe that many dealers

are
profiteers. There should always be a healthy competition between buyers

and
sellers in setting the price. McCarty seems to have some sort of a
deep-seated anti-profit motive. He has a mental problem that is both

caused
and has caused his various business failures. He has an ego like a bladder
that expands to fill all available space. In the past, he has declared his
intention to control posting on this group, essentially to make it his

fief.

So, given your equally ego filled bladder, you get yourself into a ****ing
match with Brian and perpetuate it on usenet.


I admit it gives me continuing pleasure to make McCarty pay terribly

for
his obsession.


At times, I wonder if you are really just Brian's alterego.

Brian once said we'd never get rid of him. That may be true,
but I'm pleased to see that he has suffered horribly for it. Everyone is
responsible for their actions in this world. Brian derives his pleasure

from
making other people on this newsgroup suffer. Actually, there has been
little effect on me personally. Brian has tried to harass me, my friends,
and neighbors, but it doesn't work. I simply show them the dossiers, and
they have been very understanding.

My ethics require me to be responsible to the plight of fellow human
beings.


Bow to our saviour!

While I understand that my posts may be a nusiance to some, they
inform the many newbie lurkers, so that they can quickly learn to ignore
Brian, as the rest of us do so well when we choose to buy and sell.


Your agenda seems to be focused on your personal war with Brian rather than
on any sincere attempt to "inform" the newbies. You actually appear, from
some of your posts, to have become MORE deranged than Brian.

John


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"John Richards" wrote in message
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"Robert Morein" wrote in message
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"John Richards" wrote in message
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"Robert Morein" wrote in message
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[snip]



Your agenda seems to be focused on your personal war with Brian rather

than
on any sincere attempt to "inform" the newbies. You actually appear, from
some of your posts, to have become MORE deranged than Brian.

John

As far as I am aware, John, you have never done anything to defend the
individuals he attacks.
If your ethics require you to ignore the plights of strangers, I want no
part of them.
You have your church, and I have mine.

My ethics require me to take positive steps for the public good.


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"Robert Morein" wrote:

"John Richards" wrote in message
...

"Robert Morein" wrote in message
...

snip...

So, to those of you who think this is a flame war, it isn't really. It's

a
real confrontation that spills onto usenet.


YES! It is a flame war as far as readers of usenet are concerned.

NO! It's a usenet confrontation that spills into your personal life

because
of your obsession with trying to destroy Brian. If you and your zealot
sidekicks just ignored him from the beginning (yes, I know he's a pain in
the ass) and chose not to attack him with all your assinine personal
assaults, you would probably have been spared all the "real" abuse you

have
received from him.

Just my opinion - we're all entitled to one.

John

John,
If the conflict were solely between McCarty and me, it would be
difficult to refute you. However, there have been absolutely silent victims
in this. A man was selling hifi equipment out of his house. I will not name
him here. While living in Australia, McCarty filed a complaint with the city
in which this man lived.


First clue to city to ignore him.


The city chose to ignore it. McCarty then
threatened to sue them for failing to make the municipal website accessible
to the blind.


Seems like you are saying this City didn't follow the ADA. Seems like
this City is just waiting for another ADA suit.

The city reluctantly acted, and required that this man remove
the stock from his house.


On what basis? Isn't that what lawyers are for. I like the part about
"Injunctions".


This inconvenienced him so badly, he sold his
house and moved to another city, where he carries on business, BUT NOT ON
USENET.


And yet we don't see him spamming about Brian either.


At no time did the city or anyone else determine that there was criminal activity.


But they must have found a violation of Civil and/or Business Codes
otherwise he could have sued the City.


There were no complaints against this man here. He was well regarded.


Many a priest has been well regarded and had no complaints against him.


In another case, McCarty claimed to authorities that a hifi store was
selling stolen goods. Unknown to him, this store was part of a two-store
incorporated chain, with all their paperwork in order.


Which would make this particular store incapable of selling stolen goods?


Donald Winslow has never said anything about McCarty at all. He sells
cables and a smattering of other things. Two years ago, McCarty complained
to Portland, Oregon. The complaint was dismissed as groundless, but Mr.
Winslow has to constantly put up with McCarty's harassment.


And do we see Mr Winslow becoming a spammer because of this?



IMHO, you perceive the situation too much from the buyer's point of
view. There are many buyers who subconsciously believe that many dealers are
profiteers. There should always be a healthy competition between buyers and
sellers in setting the price. McCarty seems to have some sort of a
deep-seated anti-profit motive. He has a mental problem that is both caused
and has caused his various business failures.


And you don't?


He has an ego like a bladder
that expands to fill all available space. In the past, he has declared his
intention to control posting on this group, essentially to make it his fief.


I admit it gives me continuing pleasure to make McCarty pay terribly for
his obsession.


I bet Brian just laughs at your obsession over him.


Brian once said we'd never get rid of him. That may be true,
but I'm pleased to see that he has suffered horribly for it. Everyone is
responsible for their actions in this world. Brian derives his pleasure from
making other people on this newsgroup suffer. Actually, there has been
little effect on me personally.



But your posts say otherwise. Your neighbor hates you. You other
neighbor almost died because of Brian and one other lost his job because
his Priest/preacher believed him to be a pedophile (based on Brians
suggestion).


Brian has tried to harass me, my friends,
and neighbors, but it doesn't work. I simply show them the dossiers, and
they have been very understanding.


My ethics require me to be responsible to the plight of fellow human
beings. While I understand that my posts may be a nusiance to some, they
inform the many newbie lurkers, so that they can quickly learn to ignore
Brian, as the rest of us do so well when we choose to buy and sell.




Show us these warning postings to newbies. Most if not all of your spam
about Brian is initiated by you and isn't in response to anything Brian
does. Your church is the First Church of the Narcissist.


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