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Default Is there any point in reading Stereophile...

.... if you have less than $80,000 to spend on a music system?


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Schizoid Man wrote:
... if you have less than $80,000 to spend on a music system?

Perhaps you would prefer AudioXPress.

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... if you have less than $80,000 to spend on a music system?

Perhaps you would prefer AudioXPress.

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Schizoid Man wrote:
... if you have less than $80,000 to spend on a music system?

Perhaps you would prefer AudioXPress.

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... if you have less than $80,000 to spend on a music system?

I get a kick out of it, yet I've come to completely discount the
"recommended" list.

The magazine is a very enjoyable fantasy to me. As I read about a bejeweled
piece of equipment, I imagine, "What if the material world were composed of
objects with the beauty of diamonds that, by mere possesion and use, created
a serene space of hedony?"

I seem to be able to put aside the reality that there are equipments that
look like refrigerators and sound like jewels, and their are equipments that
look like jewels and sound like refrigerators.


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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:23:24 -0800, Schizoid Man wrote:
... if you have less than $80,000 to spend on a music system?


There's no reason to read sterophile if as rich as bill gates or anything
in between.

There is no correlation between equipment being well made and clean sounding
and a good review in sterophile.

These clowns even thought the tice clock worked!

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... if you have less than $80,000 to spend on a music system?


Yes. There's a bunch of relatively cheap gear in there, and one of the
reviewers specializes in inexpensive speakers. The current issue has
reviews of Paradigm Studio 60s and the PSB Image B25 speakers, as well
as two Rega turntables.

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Actually AFAIK they said the regular un-Ticed Radio Shack clock also
worked and they weren't sure which worked better!

Obviously they knew it was a crock, but they couldn't come out and say
it.

Stereophile is okay to read for amusement, and occasionally they make
a good point-but people that buy most of the stuff therein often have
issues. I remember 'Gizmo' Harvey ;he really was nuts.



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... if you have less than $80,000 to spend on a music
system?

Or too Broke-a$$ to afford a subscription.

Which are you ?


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Schizoid Man wrote:
... if you have less than $80,000 to spend on a music system?

Perhaps you would prefer AudioXPress.

You'll certainly more than from SP, from real life experts like Robt.
Bullock, Tom Nousaine, and Joseph, D'Appolito.


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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:23:24 -0800, Schizoid Man wrote:
... if you have less than $80,000 to spend on a music system?


There's no reason to read sterophile if as rich as bill gates or anything
in between.

There is no correlation between equipment being well made and clean
sounding
and a good review in sterophile.

These clowns even thought the tice clock worked!

And when they do measure tweaks like Atkinson did with green pens and such,
and the measurements don't show anything happening, they still insist that
they should be used because one or more of the knuckleheads that used them
said he heard magic.


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Actually AFAIK they said the regular un-Ticed Radio Shack clock also
worked and they weren't sure which worked better!

Obviously they knew it was a crock, but they couldn't come out and say
it.

Stereophile is okay to read for amusement, and occasionally they make
a good point-but people that buy most of the stuff therein often have
issues. I remember 'Gizmo' Harvey ;he really was nuts.

If you want SP to give a good review of a speaker and have it sound
wonderful to their reviewers it need to have major flaws in linearity and be
very expensive. A speaker with flat FR and a lower price tag won't get
nearly the same praise.


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Actually AFAIK they said the regular un-Ticed Radio Shack clock also
worked and they weren't sure which worked better!

Obviously they knew it was a crock, but they couldn't come out and say
it.

Stereophile is okay to read for amusement, and occasionally they make
a good point-but people that buy most of the stuff therein often have
issues. I remember 'Gizmo' Harvey ;he really was nuts.

If you want SP to give a good review of a speaker and have it sound
wonderful to their reviewers it need to have major flaws in linearity and be
very expensive. A speaker with flat FR and a lower price tag won't get
nearly the same praise.


Nah. All you need is to order a year of full page ads.

I'm surprised bose has never tried this trick to get an A rating.
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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 02:16:03 GMT, Michael McKelvy
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Actually AFAIK they said the regular un-Ticed Radio Shack clock also
worked and they weren't sure which worked better!

Obviously they knew it was a crock, but they couldn't come out and say
it.

Stereophile is okay to read for amusement, and occasionally they make
a good point-but people that buy most of the stuff therein often have
issues. I remember 'Gizmo' Harvey ;he really was nuts.

If you want SP to give a good review of a speaker and have it sound
wonderful to their reviewers it need to have major flaws in linearity and
be
very expensive. A speaker with flat FR and a lower price tag won't get
nearly the same praise.


Nah. All you need is to order a year of full page ads.


I should have remembered, my apologies.

I'm surprised bose has never tried this trick to get an A rating.


Even SP has lines they will not cross.


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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 02:16:03 GMT, Michael McKelvy
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Actually AFAIK they said the regular un-Ticed Radio Shack clock also
worked and they weren't sure which worked better!

Obviously they knew it was a crock, but they couldn't come out and
say it.

Stereophile is okay to read for amusement, and occasionally they
make a good point-but people that buy most of the stuff therein
often have issues. I remember 'Gizmo' Harvey ;he really was nuts.

If you want SP to give a good review of a speaker and have it sound
wonderful to their reviewers it need to have major flaws in
linearity and be very expensive. A speaker with flat FR and a lower
price tag won't get nearly the same praise.


Nah. All you need is to order a year of full page ads.


LOL! Probably true...

I'm surprised Bose has never tried this trick to get an A rating.


I think it would probably work.


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... if you have less than $80,000 to spend on a music system?


I don't think there's much sense reading Stereophile period. I used to
subscribe to it, but it's gotten really silly after Holt left. I think you
can get outrageous deals on subscriptions, like .07 per copy. I didn't even
renew that.




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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:23:24 -0800, Schizoid Man wrote:
... if you have less than $80,000 to spend on a music system?


There's no reason to read sterophile if as rich as bill gates or
anything in between.

There is no correlation between equipment being well made and clean
sounding
and a good review in sterophile.

These clowns even thought the tice clock worked!

And when they do measure tweaks like Atkinson did with green pens and
such, and the measurements don't show anything happening, they still
insist that they should be used because one or more of the knuckleheads
that used them said he heard magic.



I make note of which writers keeps ****iki stones and other nonsense
listed. That way I know which reviewer is full of it and which one might
actually be worth reading.

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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:23:24 -0800, Schizoid Man wrote:
... if you have less than $80,000 to spend on a music system?

There's no reason to read sterophile if as rich as bill gates or
anything in between.

There is no correlation between equipment being well made and clean
sounding
and a good review in sterophile.

These clowns even thought the tice clock worked!

And when they do measure tweaks like Atkinson did with green pens and
such, and the measurements don't show anything happening, they still
insist that they should be used because one or more of the knuckleheads
that used them said he heard magic.



I make note of which writers keeps ****iki stones and other nonsense
listed. That way I know which reviewer is full of it and which one might
actually be worth reading.

r

Is it a really short list for the latter?


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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:23:24 -0800, Schizoid Man
wrote:
... if you have less than $80,000 to spend on a music system?

There's no reason to read sterophile if as rich as bill gates or
anything in between.

There is no correlation between equipment being well made and clean
sounding
and a good review in sterophile.

These clowns even thought the tice clock worked!

And when they do measure tweaks like Atkinson did with green pens
and such, and the measurements don't show anything happening, they
still insist that they should be used because one or more of the
knuckleheads that used them said he heard magic.



I make note of which writers keeps ****iki stones and other nonsense
listed. That way I know which reviewer is full of it and which one
might actually be worth reading.


Is it a really short list for the latter?


I've listed them here before. Just two.


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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:23:24 -0800, Schizoid Man
wrote:
... if you have less than $80,000 to spend on a music system?

There's no reason to read sterophile if as rich as bill gates or
anything in between.

There is no correlation between equipment being well made and clean
sounding
and a good review in sterophile.

These clowns even thought the tice clock worked!

And when they do measure tweaks like Atkinson did with green pens and
such, and the measurements don't show anything happening, they still
insist that they should be used because one or more of the
knuckleheads that used them said he heard magic.



I make note of which writers keeps ****iki stones and other nonsense
listed. That way I know which reviewer is full of it and which one
might actually be worth reading.

r

Is it a really short list for the latter?



Since the list of reviewers/writers is short anyway, a subset would be
shorter yet.

I know of one off the top of my head. There may be a few more whom I feel
I cannot trust to give the correct time of day let alone a proper review.
Things however are rarely black or white. I still find that reviewer
entertaining sometimes. Maybe I am easily entertained. (:)

r

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Since the list of reviewers/writers is short anyway, a subset would be
shorter yet.

I know of one off the top of my head. There may be a few more whom I feel
I cannot trust to give the correct time of day let alone a proper review.
Things however are rarely black or white. I still find that reviewer
entertaining sometimes. Maybe I am easily entertained. (:)


Go on. Give us the name.




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"Rich.Andrews" wrote in message

Since the list of reviewers/writers is short anyway, a subset would be
shorter yet.

I know of one off the top of my head. There may be a few more whom I feel
I cannot trust to give the correct time of day let alone a proper review.
Things however are rarely black or white. I still find that reviewer
entertaining sometimes. Maybe I am easily entertained. (:)


Go on. Give us the name.




I think you are fairly bright. Why don't you try to guess which reviewer(s)
has a credibility problem IMHO.

r
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