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fire bottles
 
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Default I can't believe it

I cannot believe their are still some retards in the world that actually
believe that solid state amps can sound as good as tubes.

but, wait, yes I can

since 51% of our country just certified that they are mentally retarded last
week, then I guess it all makes sense!


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"fire bottles" said:

I cannot believe their are still some retards in the world that actually
believe that solid state amps can sound as good as tubes.


They can. Just a matter of designing.

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" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "
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"fire bottles" wrote in message ...
I cannot believe their are still some retards in the world that actually
believe that solid state amps can sound as good as tubes.

but, wait, yes I can

since 51% of our country just certified that they are mentally retarded last
week, then I guess it all makes sense!


Hmmmm...

John Kerry = Vacuum Tube?

Expensive, biased, unreliable, anacronistic, preferred by snotty geeks
and losers...

I'll buy that.
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fire bottles wrote:

I cannot believe their are still some retards in the world that actually
believe that solid state amps can sound as good as tubes.


And I have some trouble believing anyone who thinks a ( valve or other ) amp can
sound superior when the speaker output has to pass through a lump of iron called
a transformer with all its own attendant non-linarites !

I actually have nothing *against* valves - just the quasi-religious belief in
their superiority exhibited by some ppl.

The absence of the equivalent of npn/pnp complementary types in the valve domain
also limts their usability.


Graham

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"pyjamarama" wrote in message
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"fire bottles" wrote in message
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I cannot believe their are still some retards in the world that actually
believe that solid state amps can sound as good as tubes.

but, wait, yes I can

since 51% of our country just certified that they are mentally retarded
last
week, then I guess it all makes sense!


Hmmmm...

John Kerry = Vacuum Tube?

Expensive, biased, unreliable, anacronistic, preferred by snotty geeks
and losers...

I'll buy that.


I have never seen a tube flip flop.


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Clyde Slick wrote:

"pyjamarama" wrote in message
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"fire bottles" wrote in message
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I cannot believe their are still some retards in the world that actually
believe that solid state amps can sound as good as tubes.

but, wait, yes I can

since 51% of our country just certified that they are mentally retarded
last
week, then I guess it all makes sense!


Hmmmm...

John Kerry = Vacuum Tube?

Expensive, biased, unreliable, anacronistic, preferred by snotty geeks
and losers...

I'll buy that.


I have never seen a tube flip flop.


You should have gone to Manchester ( UK ) University.


Graham


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"Clyde Slick" said:

I have never seen a tube flip flop.


ECC90 makes for an excellent flipflop.

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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
...

"pyjamarama" wrote in message
om...
"fire bottles" wrote in message
...
I cannot believe their are still some retards in the world that

actually
believe that solid state amps can sound as good as tubes.

but, wait, yes I can

since 51% of our country just certified that they are mentally

retarded
last
week, then I guess it all makes sense!


Hmmmm...

John Kerry = Vacuum Tube?

Expensive, biased, unreliable, anacronistic, preferred by snotty

geeks
and losers...

I'll buy that.


I have never seen a tube flip flop.


You must be considerably younger than I am. I've seen lots of them;
designed lots of them. Flip-flops and other logic components were
among the first things to be replaced by transistors. What a relief!!

Norm Strong


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Norman Strong wrote:


"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
...

"pyjamarama" wrote in message
om...
"fire bottles" wrote in message
...
I cannot believe their are still some retards in the world that

actually
believe that solid state amps can sound as good as tubes.

but, wait, yes I can

since 51% of our country just certified that they are mentally

retarded
last
week, then I guess it all makes sense!

Hmmmm...

John Kerry = Vacuum Tube?

Expensive, biased, unreliable, anacronistic, preferred by snotty

geeks
and losers...

I'll buy that.


I have never seen a tube flip flop.


You must be considerably younger than I am. I've seen lots of them;
designed lots of them. Flip-flops and other logic components were
among the first things to be replaced by transistors. What a relief!!

Norm Strong



Of course, transistors and other solid state components never fail, right?

At least when a tube goes bad, it's generally user-replaceable by most owners.
This is definitely not the case with transistors and/or other solid state
parts.


Bruce J. Richman





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Sander deWaal wrote:

(Bruce J. Richman) said:

You must be considerably younger than I am. I've seen lots of them;
designed lots of them. Flip-flops and other logic components were
among the first things to be replaced by transistors. What a relief!!


Of course, transistors and other solid state components never fail, right?



To be honest, transistors almost never fail in switching circuits.
They have near infinite life, as opposed to tubes.


I've had transistors and other parts fail (resistors, capacitors) in various
pieces of solid state equipment that I've owned. Of course, not being an
electronics engineero or repairman, I had to take the equipment to a service
center for an appropriate diagnosis.




At least when a tube goes bad, it's generally user-replaceable by most

owners.
This is definitely not the case with transistors and/or other solid state
parts.


It is to me :-)



The average person owning such equipment, however, has neither the expertise or
equipment (e.g. voltmeter, oscilloscope, etc.) to determine why a particular
circuit malfunctions and/or what parts might need replacement. When a tube
fails, it's pretty obvious and easy to replace by the average user.






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Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "








Bruce J. Richman



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Sander deWaal wrote:


(Bruce J. Richman) said:

To be honest, transistors almost never fail in switching circuits.
They have near infinite life, as opposed to tubes.


I've had transistors and other parts fail (resistors, capacitors) in various
pieces of solid state equipment that I've owned. Of course, not being an
electronics engineero or repairman, I had to take the equipment to a service
center for an appropriate diagnosis.


Yep, but you're most likely talking about audio/video stuff.


I was.

Transistors used as switches or performing logical functions like
flipflops, dividers, gates etc. are very reliable.
Remember there are millions of transistors in your PC !


Has anybody developed a tube-based sound card?

The average person owning such equipment, however, has neither the expertise

or
equipment (e.g. voltmeter, oscilloscope, etc.) to determine why a particular
circuit malfunctions and/or what parts might need replacement. When a tube
fails, it's pretty obvious and easy to replace by the average user.


Normal worn tubes can be replaced, but in case a tube fails due to
e.g. leaky coupling caps, the replacement tube will soon fail as well.
Many guitar players have this experience!


I never had that problem during my clarinet and tenor saxophone playing days.



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Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "




Bruce J. Richman



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(Bruce J. Richman) said:

Has anybody developed a tube-based sound card?


Close.
http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/aopentube/

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Paul Dormer said:

Has anybody developed a tube-based sound card?


http://www.pcplus.co.uk/reviews/defa...ubsectionid=42


;-)


Great minds.........

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Paul Dormer said:

Has anybody developed a tube-based sound card?


Close.
http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/aopentube/


Beat you!! :-)


Hey, I have a life ;-)

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Paul Dormer said:

Has anybody developed a tube-based sound card?


http://www.pcplus.co.uk/reviews/defa...ubsectionid=42


;-)


Great minds.........


Think...


Umm........Aretha Franklin?

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Paul Dormer said:

BTW finally sorted ye olde DVD burning issues. The Office shall be
with you soon! ;-)


Good, this old man finally got with the times and bought himself a DVD
player.

Well, She Who Must Be Obeyed prompted me, actually.

Thanks!

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Sander de Waal
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Sander deWaal wrote:


Paul Dormer said:

Has anybody developed a tube-based sound card?



http://www.pcplus.co.uk/reviews/defa...rticleid=11242

&subsectionid=372&subsubsectionid=42

;-)


Great minds.........

--


I'll buy off on that - LOT's. I guess we all know whose "mind" (?) will be
AWOL.


Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "





Bruce J. Richman





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Sander deWaal wrote:


Paul Dormer said:

Has anybody developed a tube-based sound card?



http://www.pcplus.co.uk/reviews/defa...&articleid=112

42&subsectionid=372&subsubsectionid=42

;-)


Great minds.........


Think...


Umm........Aretha Franklin?

--


She wouldn't last 5 minutes on RAO. Not enough R-E-S-P-E-C-T.


Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "





Bruce J. Richman



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