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Hello,
I am looking to buy some speakers (2.1) for my new desktop in the
$100-$150(maybe $200) range. I've heard some good things about the
Monsoon MM 1000's, 702's and Planar 14's. Which of these is the best?
The speakers will be used mainly for music listening, not gaming. It
seems as though the company no longer makes theses speakers though...
Is there anywhere online that still sells Monsoon Speakers? If not,
can anyone recommend some other computer speakers in this price range?
Thanks a bunch for any info,

David
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David Martin wrote:


Hello,
I am looking to buy some speakers (2.1) for my new desktop in the
$100-$150(maybe $200) range. I've heard some good things about the
Monsoon MM 1000's, 702's and Planar 14's. Which of these is the best?
The speakers will be used mainly for music listening, not gaming. It
seems as though the company no longer makes theses speakers though...
Is there anywhere online that still sells Monsoon Speakers? If not,
can anyone recommend some other computer speakers in this price range?
Thanks a bunch for any info,

David








Eminent Technology, based in Tallahassee, Florida was the originator of planar
loudspeakers specifically designed for use with computers.

http://www.eminent-tech.com/main.html

You can read about the LFT-11 system at the above website.

While the system, even without an amplifier, is more than your budget, I'd do
the following:

(1) Get in touch with Bruce Thigpen, the President of Eminent Technology, and
ask if it is possible to buy the speakers *without the woofer component" and if
so, what would be the cost. You can presumably always add the woofer later
(provided the main speakers will work OK indepencently - something to check
with Mr. Thigpen). Since they seel direct as well as through dealers, you
could also ask if the have "B-grade" or "blemished" stock on hand for a
suitable discount. It's not all that uncommon for manufacturers to sometimes
have product with cosmetic blemishes which are usually quite minor and don't
affect the performance. If so, you might be able to get a considerable
discount.

(2) Call around to some Eminent Technology dealers (listed on the web site) and
see if they have any demos or used speakers in stock.

(3) Check out both Audiiogon and eBay to see if they have any ET computer
speaker systems for sale.

(4) Check suitable computer magazines that have classified sections to see if
any computer users might be selling this system.

If the computer speakers represent the same level of performance as their
LFT-VIII full size planar hybrids, then they will be well worth the money.






Bruce J. Richman



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Hello,
I am looking to buy some speakers (2.1) for my new desktop in the
$100-$150(maybe $200) range. I've heard some good things about the
Monsoon MM 1000's, 702's and Planar 14's. Which of these is the best?
The speakers will be used mainly for music listening, not gaming. It
seems as though the company no longer makes theses speakers though...
Is there anywhere online that still sells Monsoon Speakers? If not,
can anyone recommend some other computer speakers in this price range?
Thanks a bunch for any info,


AFAIK Songistix, the manufacturer of Monsoon speakers, is out of business. I
checked a few shopping/comparison sites and found that they had no active
links to retailer sites for what used to be popular Monsoon speakers.


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"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message

David Martin wrote:


Hello,
I am looking to buy some speakers (2.1) for my new desktop in the
$100-$150(maybe $200) range. I've heard some good things about the
Monsoon MM 1000's, 702's and Planar 14's. Which of these is the best?
The speakers will be used mainly for music listening, not gaming. It
seems as though the company no longer makes theses speakers though...
Is there anywhere online that still sells Monsoon Speakers? If not,
can anyone recommend some other computer speakers in this price
range? Thanks a bunch for any info,


Eminent Technology, based in Tallahassee, Florida was the originator
of planar loudspeakers specifically designed for use with computers.

http://www.eminent-tech.com/main.html

You can read about the LFT-11 system at the above website.


The LFT-11 is the logical predecessor of the Monsoon flat panel speakers.
Emintent Technology were licensed by Songistix. According to top Monsoon
technical staff from the days when Songistix was still in business, the ET
speaker is a credible offering.


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Hello,
I am looking to buy some speakers (2.1) for my new desktop in the
$100-$150(maybe $200) range. I've heard some good things about the
Monsoon MM 1000's, 702's and Planar 14's. Which of these is the best?
The speakers will be used mainly for music listening, not gaming. It
seems as though the company no longer makes theses speakers though...
Is there anywhere online that still sells Monsoon Speakers? If not,
can anyone recommend some other computer speakers in this price range?
Thanks a bunch for any info,


AFAIK Songistix, the manufacturer of Monsoon speakers, is out of business. I
checked a few shopping/comparison sites and found that they had no active
links to retailer sites for what used to be popular Monsoon speakers.


http://www.bestselectionsunlimited.com/662252.html

Here is the current range that's still being made:

http://www.eastech.com/english/index.htm

And here are two of three of the models that was asked about:

http://www.eastech.com/Products_webs...ll%20Sheet.pdf
http://www.eastech.com/Products_webs...ll%20Sheet.pdf

The Planar14 that was asked about is at the first link. Note that
availability is listed as limited, so don't know how successful the
ordering would be. The Eastech site has an email link - perhaps that
person could be written to to find out about availability of all
products. Or, even better, write the guy listed at the bottom of this
press release, since they are the branch responsible for marketing:

http://www.3dsoundsurge.com/press/pr2610.html

As an aside, I heard the speakers in a store setting and was
underwhelmed. I compared them directly with about 4 or 5 different
systems and they seemed anemic sounding compared to the $60
Altec-Lansing system that I ended up getting, which was on sale for
$39 (a closeout). Admittedly, the listening conditions weren't the
best, but I'd do my best to try to audition the speakers before
buying. I have an affinity for planars and the like and I really was
hoping that they'd be the ticket. The particular system that I
listened to was't the ticket, however.


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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 07:14:51 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
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"David" wrote in message
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Hello,
I am looking to buy some speakers (2.1) for my new desktop in the
$100-$150(maybe $200) range. I've heard some good things about the
Monsoon MM 1000's, 702's and Planar 14's. Which of these is the
best? The speakers will be used mainly for music listening, not
gaming. It seems as though the company no longer makes theses
speakers though... Is there anywhere online that still sells
Monsoon Speakers? If not, can anyone recommend some other computer
speakers in this price range? Thanks a bunch for any info,


AFAIK Songistix, the manufacturer of Monsoon speakers, is out of
business. I checked a few shopping/comparison sites and found that
they had no active links to retailer sites for what used to be
popular Monsoon speakers.


http://www.bestselectionsunlimited.com/662252.html


Availability: "Limited avaialability". Translated" no new production, when
stock is gone, that is that.

Here is the current range that's still being made:


http://www.eastech.com/english/index.htm


Just a home page of a complex web site. I'm not going to search the whole
web site looking for easter eggs.


And here are two of three of the models that was asked about:

http://www.eastech.com/Products_webs...ll%20Sheet.pdf


Not available to consumers from this site. Purpose of page appears to be
demonstrating OEM capability.

http://www.eastech.com/Products_webs...ll%20Sheet.pdf


Product not available to consumers from this site. Purpose of page appears
to be demonstrating OEM capability.

The Planar14 that was asked about is at the first link. Note that
availability is listed as limited, so don't know how successful the
ordering would be. The Eastech site has an email link - perhaps that
person could be written to to find out about availability of all
products. Or, even better, write the guy listed at the bottom of this
press release, since they are the branch responsible for marketing:


Wild speculation noted.

http://www.3dsoundsurge.com/press/pr2610.html

Just a corporate press release. Product not available to consumers from this
site. Purpose of page appears to be relvant to OEMs and distributors.


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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 09:57:59 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
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"dave weil" wrote in message
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 07:14:51 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"David" wrote in message
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Hello,
I am looking to buy some speakers (2.1) for my new desktop in the
$100-$150(maybe $200) range. I've heard some good things about the
Monsoon MM 1000's, 702's and Planar 14's. Which of these is the
best? The speakers will be used mainly for music listening, not
gaming. It seems as though the company no longer makes theses
speakers though... Is there anywhere online that still sells
Monsoon Speakers? If not, can anyone recommend some other computer
speakers in this price range? Thanks a bunch for any info,

AFAIK Songistix, the manufacturer of Monsoon speakers, is out of
business. I checked a few shopping/comparison sites and found that
they had no active links to retailer sites for what used to be
popular Monsoon speakers.


http://www.bestselectionsunlimited.com/662252.html


Availability: "Limited avaialability". Translated" no new production, when
stock is gone, that is that.


Not necessarily. That's just speculation on your part. That's why I
mentioned possible unavailability myself. Second, it might be a
situation of not stocking it or having to order it from Canada or the
Far East. I don't know, which is why I didn't speculate on it and why
I said, "The Planar14 that was asked about is at the first link. Note
that availability is listed as limited, so don't know how successful
the ordering would be. The Eastech site has an email link - perhaps
that person could be written to to find out about availability of all
products.

Here is the current range that's still being made:


http://www.eastech.com/english/index.htm


Just a home page of a complex web site. I'm not going to search the whole
web site looking for easter eggs.


That's why I posted the links of the relevant PDFs - actually easy to
find because you click products and then speakers. There are actually
another three or four models with PDFs as well.

And here are two of three of the models that was asked about:

http://www.eastech.com/Products_webs...ll%20Sheet.pdf


Not available to consumers from this site. Purpose of page appears to be
demonstrating OEM capability.


I didn't say that it was available to consumers at that site. This
just shows that they are possibly or probably "in production",
especially considering that they have been produced in the past.
That's why I suggested contacting the contact person to find out about
availability in North America. It's possible that they're currently in
the process of getting them to stores. Now *that* is just speculation,
but it's easily answered by the poster simply contacting the email
link.

http://www.eastech.com/Products_webs...ll%20Sheet.pdf


Product not available to consumers from this site. Purpose of page appears
to be demonstrating OEM capability.


See above.

The Planar14 that was asked about is at the first link. Note that
availability is listed as limited, so don't know how successful the
ordering would be. The Eastech site has an email link - perhaps that
person could be written to to find out about availability of all
products. Or, even better, write the guy listed at the bottom of this
press release, since they are the branch responsible for marketing:


Wild speculation noted.


Arnold, you really are a piece of work. There is no "wild speculation"
at all.

http://www.3dsoundsurge.com/press/pr2610.html

Just a corporate press release. Product not available to consumers from this
site. Purpose of page appears to be relvant to OEMs and distributors.


There's a link to a person where these questions can be addressed.

You know Arnold, your tone here is unwarranted. All I did was give the
original poster information for followup. And I didn't make any
comments that could be interpreted as a slam against you.
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You know Arnold, your tone here is unwarranted. All I did was give the
original poster information for followup.


All I did was give the original poster information for followup.

And I didn't make any
comments that could be interpreted as a slam against you.


And I didn't make any personal comments that could be interpreted as a slam
against you.

Just goes to show....


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David wrote:

Hello,
I am looking to buy some speakers (2.1) for my new desktop in the
$100-$150(maybe $200) range.


I'd get a small amplifier and a pair of real 2-way bookshelf speakers.
That "sub" on the typical 2.1 system is really the 5-6 inch woofer
that you should have in each speaker. AND, the crossover point
is so high so as to still be directional. Ie - you can plainly
tell there's a third speaker in the room. A proper sub is
nearly impossible to sonicaly locate as it doesn't do much
above 50-60hz.

That said - um...
Used amplifier. Really doesn't matter. I like 10 yr old Kenwood
Dolby Digital models myself as they are good 2-channel amps
and everyone is tossing them away to get the new DTS models.
$50 should easily get you one used.

That leaves a fair chunk for speakers. Obviously used if you
can manage it. Tannoy M and MX are good, Mirage and Athena
are as well, and so are Paradigm. Other brands exist, but
these four manufacturers make consistently good budget speakers
in addition ot their higher-end model lines.

Oh - one more choice I recommend:
If you already have an amplifier, Magnepan makes a small
pair of planar speakers for $300. Gorgeous sound but
not much bass. You'll eventually need a sub to go with
these, but the top-end is stunning compared to anything
under $1000 that you've heard.

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Wild speculation noted.


Arnold, you really are a piece of work.


There's probably something better on TV.


--
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"dave weil" wrote in message


You know Arnold, your tone here is unwarranted. All I did was give the
original poster information for followup.


All I did was give the original poster information for followup.

And I didn't make any
comments that could be interpreted as a slam against you.


And I didn't make any personal comments that could be interpreted as a slam
against you.

Just goes to show....


Bull****:

"Wild speculation noted".

Did you say that or not? I think that the reasonable person might say
that your tone through the whole thing was dismissive.

But thanks for ccpying my sentence above. It warms the cockles of my
heart.



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dave weil a écrit :

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 11:08:01 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:


"dave weil" wrote in message
m


You know Arnold, your tone here is unwarranted. All I did was give the
original poster information for followup.


All I did was give the original poster information for followup.


And I didn't make any
comments that could be interpreted as a slam against you.


And I didn't make any personal comments that could be interpreted as a slam
against you.

Just goes to show....



Bull****:

"Wild speculation noted".

Did you say that or not? I think that the reasonable person might say
that your tone through the whole thing was dismissive.

But thanks for ccpying my sentence above. It warms the cockles of my
heart.


Note that if you was so "polite" you would have answered to the guy who
has started the thread and not to Arnold's...
Sometime I am afraid to see how you can be dishonest Dave. :-(

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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 11:08:01 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"dave weil" wrote in message


You know Arnold, your tone here is unwarranted. All I did was give
the original poster information for followup.


All I did was give the original poster information for followup.

And I didn't make any
comments that could be interpreted as a slam against you.


And I didn't make any personal comments that could be interpreted as
a slam against you.

Just goes to show....


Bull****:

"Wild speculation noted".


Addresses the comment, not the commentator.





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dave weil a écrit :

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 11:08:01 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:


"dave weil" wrote in message
om


You know Arnold, your tone here is unwarranted. All I did was give the
original poster information for followup.

All I did was give the original poster information for followup.


And I didn't make any
comments that could be interpreted as a slam against you.

And I didn't make any personal comments that could be interpreted as a slam
against you.

Just goes to show....



Bull****:

"Wild speculation noted".

Did you say that or not? I think that the reasonable person might say
that your tone through the whole thing was dismissive.

But thanks for ccpying my sentence above. It warms the cockles of my
heart.


Note that if you was so "polite" you would have answered to the guy who
has started the thread and not to Arnold's...
Sometime I am afraid to see how you can be dishonest Dave. :-(


It wasn't until Arnold said that they were out of business that I
decided to check into it, because it seemed that I had seen something
recently about the brand.

Does that make sense to you?
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dave weil a écrit :

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:56:31 +0200, Lionel
wrote:


dave weil a écrit :


On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 11:08:01 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:



"dave weil" wrote in message
m



You know Arnold, your tone here is unwarranted. All I did was give the
original poster information for followup.

All I did was give the original poster information for followup.



And I didn't make any
comments that could be interpreted as a slam against you.

And I didn't make any personal comments that could be interpreted as a slam
against you.

Just goes to show....


Bull****:

"Wild speculation noted".

Did you say that or not? I think that the reasonable person might say
that your tone through the whole thing was dismissive.

But thanks for ccpying my sentence above. It warms the cockles of my
heart.


Note that if you was so "polite" you would have answered to the guy who
has started the thread and not to Arnold's...
Sometime I am afraid to see how you can be dishonest Dave. :-(



It wasn't until Arnold said that they were out of business that I
decided to check into it, because it seemed that I had seen something
recently about the brand.

Does that make sense to you?


Yes this make sens to me but this is not true.
You perfectly know that doing that you was trolling Arnold. Since the
time you are trolling him at the same hour every day you perfectly know
what will be his reaction if you attach such answer to one of his post.

Your above obfuscation is hypocrite, dishonest since you exactly got
what you was looking for. ;-)
Don't spit in your soup, Dave.


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Dave Weil wrote:


On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:56:31 +0200, Lionel
wrote:

dave weil a écrit :

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 11:08:01 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:


"dave weil" wrote in message
m


You know Arnold, your tone here is unwarranted. All I did was give the
original poster information for followup.

All I did was give the original poster information for followup.


And I didn't make any
comments that could be interpreted as a slam against you.

And I didn't make any personal comments that could be interpreted as a

slam
against you.

Just goes to show....


Bull****:

"Wild speculation noted".

Did you say that or not? I think that the reasonable person might say
that your tone through the whole thing was dismissive.

But thanks for ccpying my sentence above. It warms the cockles of my
heart.


Note that if you was so "polite" you would have answered to the guy who
has started the thread and not to Arnold's...
Sometime I am afraid to see how you can be dishonest Dave. :-(


It wasn't until Arnold said that they were out of business that I
decided to check into it, because it seemed that I had seen something
recently about the brand.

Does that make sense to you?








Since Lionel has no more cortical tissue than an amoeba, and about the same
comprehension level, he's attempted to simplify his petty, distorted, little
world by use of the following rules: (1) Agree with Krueger = "good", (2)
Disagree with Krueger = "bad". Anything more complex or more honest than that
is beyond his reach.

Bruce J. Richman



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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 17:00:47 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
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"Wild speculation noted".


Addresses the comment, not the commentator.


Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Actually, it addresses the nature of the the noter.
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Bruce J. Richman a écrit :

Dave Weil wrote:



On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:56:31 +0200, Lionel
wrote:


dave weil a écrit :


On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 11:08:01 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:



"dave weil" wrote in message
om



You know Arnold, your tone here is unwarranted. All I did was give the
original poster information for followup.

All I did was give the original poster information for followup.



And I didn't make any
comments that could be interpreted as a slam against you.

And I didn't make any personal comments that could be interpreted as a


slam

against you.

Just goes to show....


Bull****:

"Wild speculation noted".

Did you say that or not? I think that the reasonable person might say
that your tone through the whole thing was dismissive.

But thanks for ccpying my sentence above. It warms the cockles of my
heart.

Note that if you was so "polite" you would have answered to the guy who
has started the thread and not to Arnold's...
Sometime I am afraid to see how you can be dishonest Dave. :-(


It wasn't until Arnold said that they were out of business that I
decided to check into it, because it seemed that I had seen something
recently about the brand.

Does that make sense to you?









Since Lionel has no more cortical tissue than an amoeba, and about the same
comprehension level, he's attempted to simplify his petty, distorted, little
world by use of the following rules: (1) Agree with Krueger = "good", (2)
Disagree with Krueger = "bad". Anything more complex or more honest than that
is beyond his reach.


Doctor Richman is in a terrible pain since I wrote him that I don't like
him.
I don't know why but he is always refering to Arnold Krueger... Sounds
like if he hasn't had any professional life. :-)
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:18:24 +0200, Lionel
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dave weil a écrit :

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:56:31 +0200, Lionel
wrote:


dave weil a écrit :


On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 11:08:01 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:



"dave weil" wrote in message
om



You know Arnold, your tone here is unwarranted. All I did was give the
original poster information for followup.

All I did was give the original poster information for followup.



And I didn't make any
comments that could be interpreted as a slam against you.

And I didn't make any personal comments that could be interpreted as a slam
against you.

Just goes to show....


Bull****:

"Wild speculation noted".

Did you say that or not? I think that the reasonable person might say
that your tone through the whole thing was dismissive.

But thanks for ccpying my sentence above. It warms the cockles of my
heart.

Note that if you was so "polite" you would have answered to the guy who
has started the thread and not to Arnold's...
Sometime I am afraid to see how you can be dishonest Dave. :-(



It wasn't until Arnold said that they were out of business that I
decided to check into it, because it seemed that I had seen something
recently about the brand.

Does that make sense to you?


Yes this make sens to me but this is not true.


It *is* true.

You perfectly know that doing that you was trolling Arnold.


First of all, I *wasn't*. If I *had* been trolling Arnold, I would
have made some snide remarks about his ability to find things on the
web. I did not.

Since the
time you are trolling him at the same hour every day you perfectly know
what will be his reaction if you attach such answer to one of his post.


I see. So if I think that Arnold hasn't given useful information to
some poster, I should just keep the possible pertinent info to myself,
right?

Your above obfuscation is hypocrite, dishonest since you exactly got
what you was looking for. ;-)


This just isn't true. I certainly wasn't ecpecting a thank you from
Arnold, since it didn't matter to him one way or the other, but I
wasn't asking for a poke in the eye either.

Don't spit in your soup, Dave.


The question now is "Why are *you* trolling *me*"?
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 17:00:47 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:


"Wild speculation noted".


Addresses the comment, not the commentator.


Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.


Actually, it addresses the nature of the the noter.


Oh my goodness, that person uhhhh, errr (the terror, the humanity!)
speculates!!!

Will the horrors ever cease?

;-)




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dave weil a écrit :

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:18:24 +0200, Lionel
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dave weil a écrit :


On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:56:31 +0200, Lionel
wrote:



dave weil a écrit :



On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 11:08:01 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:




"dave weil" wrote in message
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You know Arnold, your tone here is unwarranted. All I did was give the
original poster information for followup.

All I did was give the original poster information for followup.




And I didn't make any
comments that could be interpreted as a slam against you.

And I didn't make any personal comments that could be interpreted as a slam
against you.

Just goes to show....


Bull****:

"Wild speculation noted".

Did you say that or not? I think that the reasonable person might say
that your tone through the whole thing was dismissive.

But thanks for ccpying my sentence above. It warms the cockles of my
heart.

Note that if you was so "polite" you would have answered to the guy who
has started the thread and not to Arnold's...
Sometime I am afraid to see how you can be dishonest Dave. :-(


It wasn't until Arnold said that they were out of business that I
decided to check into it, because it seemed that I had seen something
recently about the brand.

Does that make sense to you?


Yes this make sens to me but this is not true.



It *is* true.


Ok if you want... The most important is that you and me know that it's
not true. ;-)

You perfectly know that doing that you was trolling Arnold.



First of all, I *wasn't*. If I *had* been trolling Arnold, I would
have made some snide remarks about his ability to find things on the
web. I did not.


No, no you would have done that if you was a stupid troller or a newbie.
You have at least 5 years of experience on RAO and you are not so stupid.

Since the
time you are trolling him at the same hour every day you perfectly know
what will be his reaction if you attach such answer to one of his post.



I see. So if I think that Arnold hasn't given useful information to
some poster, I should just keep the possible pertinent info to myself,
right?


This is not the way it as been done.

Your above obfuscation is hypocrite, dishonest since you exactly got
what you was looking for. ;-)



This just isn't true. I certainly wasn't ecpecting a thank you from
Arnold, since it didn't matter to him one way or the other, but I
wasn't asking for a poke in the eye either.


You poked your eye yourself on this one, since your post was less
pertinent in term of useful informations than his one.

Don't spit in your soup, Dave.



The question now is "Why are *you* trolling *me*"?


Because it's funny. :-D
But modestly I cannot teach the pleasure of trolling to an artist like
you, eh accordian Master ? :-)
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 17:27:48 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Oh my goodness, that person uhhhh, errr (the terror, the humanity!)
speculates!!!


"Wildly" speculates, You left that part out.

Will the horrors ever cease?


Only when you cease posting, perhaps, note.

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"dave weil" wrote in message

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 17:27:48 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Oh my goodness, that person uhhhh, errr (the terror, the humanity!)
speculates!!!


"Wildly" speculates, You left that part out.


Is that better or worse than bestiality? ;-)

Will the horrors ever cease?


Only when you cease posting, perhaps, note.


Posts's theme of undying hatred and bad faith noted.


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dave weil a écrit :

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:35:45 +0200, Lionel
wrote:


This just isn't true. I certainly wasn't ecpecting a thank you from
Arnold, since it didn't matter to him one way or the other, but I
wasn't asking for a poke in the eye either.


You poked your eye yourself on this one, since your post was less
pertinent in term of useful informations than his one.



Well, that is yet to be determined. I found a possible site for
purchase of one of the models that the poster wanted. Arnold found
nothing. I found information that *might* indicate that the products
are currently available, Arnold found nothing. Reading his posts, one
would think that the brand dropped off the face of the earth. At least
we know that the brand has a caretaker and might still be in the
business of offering the products.

And nowhere did I chide Arnold for his inability to use a search
engine. Until now, of course. Maybe he spelled it Moonsoon or
something (that's happened in the past regarding something he was
trying to find on the Stereophile web site).


So, Arnold loses,


Again. ;-)
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:35:45 +0200, Lionel
wrote:

This just isn't true. I certainly wasn't ecpecting a thank you from
Arnold, since it didn't matter to him one way or the other, but I
wasn't asking for a poke in the eye either.


You poked your eye yourself on this one, since your post was less
pertinent in term of useful informations than his one.


Well, that is yet to be determined. I found a possible site for
purchase of one of the models that the poster wanted. Arnold found
nothing. I found information that *might* indicate that the products
are currently available, Arnold found nothing. Reading his posts, one
would think that the brand dropped off the face of the earth. At least
we know that the brand has a caretaker and might still be in the
business of offering the products.

And nowhere did I chide Arnold for his inability to use a search
engine. Until now, of course. Maybe he spelled it Moonsoon or
something (that's happened in the past regarding something he was
trying to find on the Stereophile web site).


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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:53:13 +0200, Lionel
wrote:

dave weil a écrit :

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:35:45 +0200, Lionel
wrote:


This just isn't true. I certainly wasn't ecpecting a thank you from
Arnold, since it didn't matter to him one way or the other, but I
wasn't asking for a poke in the eye either.

You poked your eye yourself on this one, since your post was less
pertinent in term of useful informations than his one.



Well, that is yet to be determined. I found a possible site for
purchase of one of the models that the poster wanted. Arnold found
nothing. I found information that *might* indicate that the products
are currently available, Arnold found nothing. Reading his posts, one
would think that the brand dropped off the face of the earth. At least
we know that the brand has a caretaker and might still be in the
business of offering the products.

And nowhere did I chide Arnold for his inability to use a search
engine. Until now, of course. Maybe he spelled it Moonsoon or
something (that's happened in the past regarding something he was
trying to find on the Stereophile web site).


So, Arnold loses,


Again. ;-)


He only lost when he got all twitchy about my post.
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"dave weil" wrote in message



Will the horrors ever cease?


Are you immortal?


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"David" wrote in message
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Hello,
I am looking to buy some speakers (2.1) for my new desktop in the
$100-$150(maybe $200) range. I've heard some good things about the
Monsoon MM 1000's, 702's and Planar 14's. Which of these is the best?
The speakers will be used mainly for music listening, not gaming. It
seems as though the company no longer makes theses speakers though...
Is there anywhere online that still sells Monsoon Speakers? If not,
can anyone recommend some other computer speakers in this price range?
Thanks a bunch for any info,

David


Try the Swans M-200. A superior speaker for the money. And still available.
Or if you really want good stuff the Genelec and Mackie active monitors are
the way to go but they're much more $$$.

I got the Swans for $199 here in SATX. I also have the MM-700's and their
shortcoming is the woofer integration or maybe it is just a boomy woofer...

Cheers,

Margaret



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