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SACD vs. CD
There are a number of aspects to SACD that I am most curious about.
Would filtering be easier and thus cheaper with SACD thus enabling a low end SACD player to outperform the best high end CD players? SACD has dropped considerably and I was wondering if I should buy now or wait. Is there some technical aspect in a SACD player that might help in deciding which player to purchase? Reviews don't help much in justifying one model over another. I would like to know the technical reason why a given player sounds bad/OK/good/excellent. r -- Nothing beats the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with DLT tapes. |
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SACD vs. CD
"Rich Andrews." wrote in message .44... There are a number of aspects to SACD that I am most curious about. Would filtering be easier and thus cheaper with SACD thus enabling a low end SACD player to outperform the best high end CD players? Most modern CD players have hardly any filtering at all. The improved sound quality stems more from the increased resolution and bandwidth. SACD has dropped considerably and I was wondering if I should buy now or wait. Is there some technical aspect in a SACD player that might help in deciding which player to purchase? Reviews don't help much in justifying one model over another. Eventually SACD players will be priced similarly to CD players (i.e. next to nothing). The main thing is to ask youself if you find it worthwhile to purchase your entire CD collection anew in the SACD format, considering the marginal increase in sound quality. The main reasons that SACD for introducing we 1) another 20 years of patent royalties for its developers (Sony and Philips). 2) the built-in anti-piracy protection mechanisms which make it very lucrative for the record companies (note that the DMCA prohibits the cracking of any encryption; encryption is lacking on CD so it can be copied freely and there's nothing the record companies can do about it, hence they are screwing up the CD format by putting in so called anti-copying formatting) I would like to know the technical reason why a given player sounds bad/OK/good/excellent. Obviously the increased resolution (24bits) and bandwidth (50Khz audio signals can be recorded, which are beyond the human hearing range of 20Khz). But in light of the limitations of the anallog audio tapes on which most music is recorded, this may hardly be of any consequence. |
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SACD vs. CD
"Rich Andrews." wrote in message .44... There are a number of aspects to SACD that I am most curious about. Would filtering be easier and thus cheaper with SACD thus enabling a low end SACD player to outperform the best high end CD players? Most modern CD players have hardly any filtering at all. The improved sound quality stems more from the increased resolution and bandwidth. SACD has dropped considerably and I was wondering if I should buy now or wait. Is there some technical aspect in a SACD player that might help in deciding which player to purchase? Reviews don't help much in justifying one model over another. Eventually SACD players will be priced similarly to CD players (i.e. next to nothing). The main thing is to ask youself if you find it worthwhile to purchase your entire CD collection anew in the SACD format, considering the marginal increase in sound quality. The main reasons that SACD for introducing we 1) another 20 years of patent royalties for its developers (Sony and Philips). 2) the built-in anti-piracy protection mechanisms which make it very lucrative for the record companies (note that the DMCA prohibits the cracking of any encryption; encryption is lacking on CD so it can be copied freely and there's nothing the record companies can do about it, hence they are screwing up the CD format by putting in so called anti-copying formatting) I would like to know the technical reason why a given player sounds bad/OK/good/excellent. Obviously the increased resolution (24bits) and bandwidth (50Khz audio signals can be recorded, which are beyond the human hearing range of 20Khz). But in light of the limitations of the anallog audio tapes on which most music is recorded, this may hardly be of any consequence. |
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SACD vs. CD
"Rich Andrews." wrote in message .44... There are a number of aspects to SACD that I am most curious about. Would filtering be easier and thus cheaper with SACD thus enabling a low end SACD player to outperform the best high end CD players? Most modern CD players have hardly any filtering at all. The improved sound quality stems more from the increased resolution and bandwidth. SACD has dropped considerably and I was wondering if I should buy now or wait. Is there some technical aspect in a SACD player that might help in deciding which player to purchase? Reviews don't help much in justifying one model over another. Eventually SACD players will be priced similarly to CD players (i.e. next to nothing). The main thing is to ask youself if you find it worthwhile to purchase your entire CD collection anew in the SACD format, considering the marginal increase in sound quality. The main reasons that SACD for introducing we 1) another 20 years of patent royalties for its developers (Sony and Philips). 2) the built-in anti-piracy protection mechanisms which make it very lucrative for the record companies (note that the DMCA prohibits the cracking of any encryption; encryption is lacking on CD so it can be copied freely and there's nothing the record companies can do about it, hence they are screwing up the CD format by putting in so called anti-copying formatting) I would like to know the technical reason why a given player sounds bad/OK/good/excellent. Obviously the increased resolution (24bits) and bandwidth (50Khz audio signals can be recorded, which are beyond the human hearing range of 20Khz). But in light of the limitations of the anallog audio tapes on which most music is recorded, this may hardly be of any consequence. |
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SACD vs. CD
"Rich Andrews." wrote in message .44... There are a number of aspects to SACD that I am most curious about. Would filtering be easier and thus cheaper with SACD thus enabling a low end SACD player to outperform the best high end CD players? Most modern CD players have hardly any filtering at all. The improved sound quality stems more from the increased resolution and bandwidth. SACD has dropped considerably and I was wondering if I should buy now or wait. Is there some technical aspect in a SACD player that might help in deciding which player to purchase? Reviews don't help much in justifying one model over another. Eventually SACD players will be priced similarly to CD players (i.e. next to nothing). The main thing is to ask youself if you find it worthwhile to purchase your entire CD collection anew in the SACD format, considering the marginal increase in sound quality. The main reasons that SACD for introducing we 1) another 20 years of patent royalties for its developers (Sony and Philips). 2) the built-in anti-piracy protection mechanisms which make it very lucrative for the record companies (note that the DMCA prohibits the cracking of any encryption; encryption is lacking on CD so it can be copied freely and there's nothing the record companies can do about it, hence they are screwing up the CD format by putting in so called anti-copying formatting) I would like to know the technical reason why a given player sounds bad/OK/good/excellent. Obviously the increased resolution (24bits) and bandwidth (50Khz audio signals can be recorded, which are beyond the human hearing range of 20Khz). But in light of the limitations of the anallog audio tapes on which most music is recorded, this may hardly be of any consequence. |
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SACD vs. CD
"Rich Andrews." wrote in message
.44 There are a number of aspects to SACD that I am most curious about. Would filtering be easier and thus cheaper with SACD thus enabling a low end SACD player to outperform the best high end CD players? The SACD format has better overall frequency response and dynamic range in the audio band than the CD audio format. Current technology provides inexpensive converters that perform better than the CD audio format. Therefore we can safely say that the technical performance even of a modestly-priced optical disc player can be hamstrung by the limitations of the CD audio format. SACD has dropped considerably and I was wondering if I should buy now or wait. It has been announced that all new SACD players are multi-format. That means that if the SACD of DVD-A format is dropped, they will remain useful as players for other formats where new music is still being released, such as the CD audio format. I believe that Best Buy is currently selling a Pioneer multi-format player for about $160. It is no doubt an adequate player for all the formats it handles which include CD Audio, SACD, and DVD-A. Seems like buying it would be no great risk. Is there some technical aspect in a SACD player that might help in deciding which player to purchase? Reviews don't help much in justifying one model over another. You noticed eh? The really key performance aspects of an optical disc player is the number of formats it plays what you are interested in, and how well it plays those formats when the discs are in suboptimal condition. The ergonomics of the player should be very important to you as well if you are going to use it quite a bit. I would like to know the technical reason why a given player sounds bad/OK/good/excellent. If you do a level-matched, time-synched, bias-controlled listening test of various players, even inexpensive players, you will find that the actual recording is the most important variable, by far. |
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SACD vs. CD
"Rich Andrews." wrote in message
.44 There are a number of aspects to SACD that I am most curious about. Would filtering be easier and thus cheaper with SACD thus enabling a low end SACD player to outperform the best high end CD players? The SACD format has better overall frequency response and dynamic range in the audio band than the CD audio format. Current technology provides inexpensive converters that perform better than the CD audio format. Therefore we can safely say that the technical performance even of a modestly-priced optical disc player can be hamstrung by the limitations of the CD audio format. SACD has dropped considerably and I was wondering if I should buy now or wait. It has been announced that all new SACD players are multi-format. That means that if the SACD of DVD-A format is dropped, they will remain useful as players for other formats where new music is still being released, such as the CD audio format. I believe that Best Buy is currently selling a Pioneer multi-format player for about $160. It is no doubt an adequate player for all the formats it handles which include CD Audio, SACD, and DVD-A. Seems like buying it would be no great risk. Is there some technical aspect in a SACD player that might help in deciding which player to purchase? Reviews don't help much in justifying one model over another. You noticed eh? The really key performance aspects of an optical disc player is the number of formats it plays what you are interested in, and how well it plays those formats when the discs are in suboptimal condition. The ergonomics of the player should be very important to you as well if you are going to use it quite a bit. I would like to know the technical reason why a given player sounds bad/OK/good/excellent. If you do a level-matched, time-synched, bias-controlled listening test of various players, even inexpensive players, you will find that the actual recording is the most important variable, by far. |
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SACD vs. CD
"Rich Andrews." wrote in message
.44 There are a number of aspects to SACD that I am most curious about. Would filtering be easier and thus cheaper with SACD thus enabling a low end SACD player to outperform the best high end CD players? The SACD format has better overall frequency response and dynamic range in the audio band than the CD audio format. Current technology provides inexpensive converters that perform better than the CD audio format. Therefore we can safely say that the technical performance even of a modestly-priced optical disc player can be hamstrung by the limitations of the CD audio format. SACD has dropped considerably and I was wondering if I should buy now or wait. It has been announced that all new SACD players are multi-format. That means that if the SACD of DVD-A format is dropped, they will remain useful as players for other formats where new music is still being released, such as the CD audio format. I believe that Best Buy is currently selling a Pioneer multi-format player for about $160. It is no doubt an adequate player for all the formats it handles which include CD Audio, SACD, and DVD-A. Seems like buying it would be no great risk. Is there some technical aspect in a SACD player that might help in deciding which player to purchase? Reviews don't help much in justifying one model over another. You noticed eh? The really key performance aspects of an optical disc player is the number of formats it plays what you are interested in, and how well it plays those formats when the discs are in suboptimal condition. The ergonomics of the player should be very important to you as well if you are going to use it quite a bit. I would like to know the technical reason why a given player sounds bad/OK/good/excellent. If you do a level-matched, time-synched, bias-controlled listening test of various players, even inexpensive players, you will find that the actual recording is the most important variable, by far. |
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SACD vs. CD
"Rich Andrews." wrote in message
.44 There are a number of aspects to SACD that I am most curious about. Would filtering be easier and thus cheaper with SACD thus enabling a low end SACD player to outperform the best high end CD players? The SACD format has better overall frequency response and dynamic range in the audio band than the CD audio format. Current technology provides inexpensive converters that perform better than the CD audio format. Therefore we can safely say that the technical performance even of a modestly-priced optical disc player can be hamstrung by the limitations of the CD audio format. SACD has dropped considerably and I was wondering if I should buy now or wait. It has been announced that all new SACD players are multi-format. That means that if the SACD of DVD-A format is dropped, they will remain useful as players for other formats where new music is still being released, such as the CD audio format. I believe that Best Buy is currently selling a Pioneer multi-format player for about $160. It is no doubt an adequate player for all the formats it handles which include CD Audio, SACD, and DVD-A. Seems like buying it would be no great risk. Is there some technical aspect in a SACD player that might help in deciding which player to purchase? Reviews don't help much in justifying one model over another. You noticed eh? The really key performance aspects of an optical disc player is the number of formats it plays what you are interested in, and how well it plays those formats when the discs are in suboptimal condition. The ergonomics of the player should be very important to you as well if you are going to use it quite a bit. I would like to know the technical reason why a given player sounds bad/OK/good/excellent. If you do a level-matched, time-synched, bias-controlled listening test of various players, even inexpensive players, you will find that the actual recording is the most important variable, by far. |
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"Rich Andrews." wrote in message .44... There are a number of aspects to SACD that I am most curious about. Would filtering be easier and thus cheaper with SACD thus enabling a low end SACD player to outperform the best high end CD players? SACD has dropped considerably and I was wondering if I should buy now or wait. Is there some technical aspect in a SACD player that might help in deciding which player to purchase? Reviews don't help much in justifying one model over another. I would like to know the technical reason why a given player sounds bad/OK/good/excellent. r -- Nothing beats the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with DLT tapes. It wouldn't surprise me at all. I have been called to assist a great many people who bought a mic at the music store, hoping to get something better sounding than the crappy mics at the computer stores. They think spending $100 on a SM58 is somehow going to make their recordings less noisy or voice commands more clear for the software. Since the person didn't know exactly what they were doing, the clerks at the music store didn't know what to tell them. - FLINT |
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SACD vs. CD
"Rich Andrews." wrote in message .44... There are a number of aspects to SACD that I am most curious about. Would filtering be easier and thus cheaper with SACD thus enabling a low end SACD player to outperform the best high end CD players? SACD has dropped considerably and I was wondering if I should buy now or wait. Is there some technical aspect in a SACD player that might help in deciding which player to purchase? Reviews don't help much in justifying one model over another. I would like to know the technical reason why a given player sounds bad/OK/good/excellent. r -- Nothing beats the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with DLT tapes. It wouldn't surprise me at all. I have been called to assist a great many people who bought a mic at the music store, hoping to get something better sounding than the crappy mics at the computer stores. They think spending $100 on a SM58 is somehow going to make their recordings less noisy or voice commands more clear for the software. Since the person didn't know exactly what they were doing, the clerks at the music store didn't know what to tell them. - FLINT |
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SACD vs. CD
"Rich Andrews." wrote in message .44... There are a number of aspects to SACD that I am most curious about. Would filtering be easier and thus cheaper with SACD thus enabling a low end SACD player to outperform the best high end CD players? SACD has dropped considerably and I was wondering if I should buy now or wait. Is there some technical aspect in a SACD player that might help in deciding which player to purchase? Reviews don't help much in justifying one model over another. I would like to know the technical reason why a given player sounds bad/OK/good/excellent. r -- Nothing beats the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with DLT tapes. It wouldn't surprise me at all. I have been called to assist a great many people who bought a mic at the music store, hoping to get something better sounding than the crappy mics at the computer stores. They think spending $100 on a SM58 is somehow going to make their recordings less noisy or voice commands more clear for the software. Since the person didn't know exactly what they were doing, the clerks at the music store didn't know what to tell them. - FLINT |
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SACD vs. CD
"Rich Andrews." wrote in message .44... There are a number of aspects to SACD that I am most curious about. Would filtering be easier and thus cheaper with SACD thus enabling a low end SACD player to outperform the best high end CD players? SACD has dropped considerably and I was wondering if I should buy now or wait. Is there some technical aspect in a SACD player that might help in deciding which player to purchase? Reviews don't help much in justifying one model over another. I would like to know the technical reason why a given player sounds bad/OK/good/excellent. r -- Nothing beats the bandwidth of a station wagon filled with DLT tapes. It wouldn't surprise me at all. I have been called to assist a great many people who bought a mic at the music store, hoping to get something better sounding than the crappy mics at the computer stores. They think spending $100 on a SM58 is somehow going to make their recordings less noisy or voice commands more clear for the software. Since the person didn't know exactly what they were doing, the clerks at the music store didn't know what to tell them. - FLINT |
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