I'm not being lazy. I just missed a few days of RAP and when I logged on I
found about 350 iHP-120 posts. What was the original post about? Did the
thread get hijacked and morph into a cialis/viagra/mortgage thread or what?

what the hell is an IHP-120,


Joe Egan
EMP
Colchester, VT
www.eganmedia.com

It's a hard-disk-based pocket jukebox with lots of nice features, including a
very good stereo FM tuner and the ability to record directly to its hard drive,
via either cable or fiber optics. Connected to a USB 2.0 port, it looks like a
hard drive to most operating systems, so it's a snap to add or delete files.

Oh, yes. It has a real leather case!

It comes from a Korean firm called iRiver, though it's made in China.

Some people believe it sounds significantly better than the iPod, but I have no
way to compare them. All I can say is that, playing uncompressed WAV files, it
sounds awfully good.

http://www.iriveramerica.com/products/iHP-120.asp
http://www.iriveramerica.com/products/iHP-140.asp

BY The way IPODS play wav files as well



On 3/28/04 8:43 PM, in article , "William
Sommerwerck" wrote:

It's a hard-disk-based pocket jukebox with lots of nice features, including a
very good stereo FM tuner and the ability to record directly to its hard
drive,
via either cable or fiber optics. Connected to a USB 2.0 port, it looks like a
hard drive to most operating systems, so it's a snap to add or delete files.

Oh, yes. It has a real leather case!

It comes from a Korean firm called iRiver, though it's made in China.

Some people believe it sounds significantly better than the iPod, but I have
no
way to compare them. All I can say is that, playing uncompressed WAV files, it
sounds awfully good.

EganMedia wrote:

I'm not being lazy. I just missed a few days of RAP and when I
logged on I found about 350 iHP-120 posts. What was the original
post about? Did the thread get hijacked and morph into a
cialis/viagra/mortgage thread or what?

what the hell is an IHP-120,

An iHP-120 is a portable digital audio recorder/player, based on a miniature
20 GB hard drive and lithium batteries. Also see Nomad, iPod, etc.

Not bad tools for location recording - makes DAT and MD seem pretty
old-tech.

However, most of these boxes are used to play pre-recorded music. Real audio
guys load them with .WAV files, not MP3s.

Advantages - size & cost, You can buy a 20 GB Nomad Jukebox which is about
the size of a portable CD player (physically large for the genre) and get
change from $200. Disadvantages - pretty well tied to a computer for loading
and offloading files..

Not bad tools for location recording -- makes DAT
and MD seem pretty old-tech.

Only in terms of getting rid of the tape. I have a pocket DAT that, though
larger, still fits a pocket. It has decent mic preamps, a gain control, and a
level meter, features missing from all the pocket players I know of. I love my
iHP-120, but until someone comes along with a preamp * that provides these
problems, it isn't going to be used for recording.

* I believe someone makes a tiny preamp with gain controls and an ADC, but I've
lost the bookmark.


However, most of these boxes are used to play pre-recorded music.

If someone would only produce a player for recorded music -- or even better,
live musc -- it would be a major breakthrough.


Real audio guys load them with .WAV files, not MP3s.

20GB capacity pretty much eliminates the need to compress the files.


Advantages -- size & cost, You can buy a 20 GB Nomad
Jukebox which is about the size of a portable CD player
(physically large for the genre) and get change from $200.

The iRiver and Apple are small, to the point of being tiny.


Disadvantages -- pretty well tied to a computer for loading
and offloading files...

Isn't that like saying you have to buy CDs to use a Discman?

Until someone adds 'net access to a player (or vice versa), it seems you'll be
obliged to connect your player to some stationary device for downloading.

William Sommerwerck wrote:
Not bad tools for location recording -- makes DAT
and MD seem pretty old-tech.

Only in terms of getting rid of the tape. I have a pocket DAT that,
though larger, still fits a pocket. It has decent mic preamps, a gain
control, and a level meter, features missing from all the pocket
players I know of. I love my iHP-120, but until someone comes along
with a preamp * that provides these problems, it isn't going to be
used for recording.

Sorry about that player with no level meters.

* I believe someone makes a tiny preamp with gain controls and an
ADC, but I've lost the bookmark.

Core Sound?

http://www.core-sound.com/

However, most of these boxes are used to play pre-recorded music.

If someone would only produce a player for recorded music -- or even
better, live musc -- it would be a major breakthrough.

My players for live music are made up of human flesh and blood. We grow them
around here.

;-)

Real audio guys load them with .WAV files, not MP3s.

20GB capacity pretty much eliminates the need to compress the files.

Agreed. Been there, done that.

Advantages -- size & cost, You can buy a 20 GB Nomad
Jukebox which is about the size of a portable CD player
(physically large for the genre) and get change from $200.

The iRiver and Apple are small, to the point of being tiny.

For twice the price or more you got to get something for your money, right?

;-)

Disadvantages -- pretty well tied to a computer for loading
and offloading files...

Isn't that like saying you have to buy CDs to use a Discman?

I've run into a lot more people computer audio phobias than with CD player
phobias, not that I haven't run into the latter as well.

Until someone adds 'net access to a player (or vice versa), it seems
you'll be obliged to connect your player to some stationary device
for downloading.

I'm sure we'll shortly have portable music players with wireless net access
and built-in browsers. That's called a PDA with a hard drive and good
converters, no? Indeed, if there isn't an operational model or ten at
Creative's, Apple's, iRiver's, Dell's, Gateway's etc. I'd be totally
surprised.

Executive summary:

Truly awful user interface, can only record uncompressed stereo WAV files
that would fit onto a single CD-R even though the hard drive has enormous
capacity--but excellent battery life and reliability (so far for me).
Potentially a great little device if one can feed it an optical digital
input and work around the aforementioned awful user interface and limit
on how long a single sound file can be. Wish I'd had one of these (with
required ancillary equipment such as A/D converters) back in the 1970s.

David Satz wrote:
Executive summary:

Truly awful user interface, can only record uncompressed stereo WAV
files that would fit onto a single CD-R even though the hard drive
has enormous capacity--but excellent battery life and reliability (so
far for me).

In contrast the Nomad Jukebox 3 will record uncompressed stereo .wav files
of practically unlimited length.

The NJB3 UI seems to be richer as well.

Of course you pay a price - the NJB3 is bigger and heavier, but costs less
than half the price.

Until someone adds 'net access to a player (or vice versa),
it seems you'll be obliged to connect your player to some
stationary device for downloading.

I'm sure we'll shortly have portable music players with wireless
'net access and built-in browsers. That's called a PDA with a
hard drive and good converters, no? Indeed, if there isn't an
operational model or ten at Creative's, Apple's, iRiver's, Dell's,
Gateway's etc. I'd be totally surprised.

We aren't far away from the UDA -- Universal Digital Appliance -- that does
everything: computer, PDA, audio/video recording & playback, wireless access to
anything and everything, etc, etc, etc.

Truly awful user interface...

Not really. It's not as elegant as the iPod's, but it's usable. It also has more
features, which makes it inherently harder to master.


can only record uncompressed stereo WAV files
that would fit onto a single CD-R even though the
hard drive has enormous capacity.

That isn't a problem, if what you're recording has breaks so that you can stop
and start up again.

David Satz wrote:

Executive summary:

Truly awful user interface, can only record uncompressed stereo WAV files
that would fit onto a single CD-R even though the hard drive has enormous
capacity--but excellent battery life and reliability (so far for me).
Potentially a great little device if one can feed it an optical digital
input and work around the aforementioned awful user interface and limit
on how long a single sound file can be. Wish I'd had one of these (with
required ancillary equipment such as A/D converters) back in the 1970s.

Is recording from digital in limited to 16 bits?


Bob
--

"Things should be described as simply as possible, but no
simpler."

A. Einstein

Bob Cain wrote:
David Satz wrote:

Executive summary:

Truly awful user interface, can only record uncompressed stereo WAV
files that would fit onto a single CD-R even though the hard drive
has enormous capacity--but excellent battery life and reliability
(so far for me). Potentially a great little device if one can feed
it an optical digital input and work around the aforementioned awful
user interface and limit on how long a single sound file can be.
Wish I'd had one of these (with required ancillary equipment such as
A/D converters) back in the 1970s.

Is recording from digital in limited to 16 bits?

Yes.

I wrote:

can only record uncompressed stereo WAV files that would fit
onto a single CD-R even though the hard drive has enormous capacity.

whereupon William Sommerwerck wrote:

That isn't a problem, if what you're recording has breaks so that
you can stop and start up again.

The problem is that closing the current WAV file flushes the disk write
buffer, and that plus the whole process of writing the header, etc. takes
10+ seconds. Only after that can you start a new file. It's not like
in Sound Forge, where you can flip from one file to the next with a gap
of less than half a second. For some applications it's OK, but not for
others, is all. Plus, you can't just leave it and record unattended for
umpteen hours despite its excellent battery life and hard drive capacity,
which is frustrating.

I wrote:

can only record uncompressed stereo WAV files that would fit
onto a single CD-R even though the hard drive has enormous capacity.

whereupon William Sommerwerck wrote:

That isn't a problem, if what you're recording has breaks so that
you can stop and start up again.

The problem is that closing the current WAV file flushes the disk write
buffer, and that plus the whole process of writing the header, etc. takes
10+ seconds. Only after that can you start a new file. It's not like
in Sound Forge, where you can flip from one file to the next with a gap
of less than half a second. For some applications it's OK, but not for
others, is all. Plus, you can't just leave it and record unattended for
umpteen hours despite its excellent battery life and hard drive capacity,
which is frustrating.

Point taken.

Of course, even with "unlimited" recording time, you should still stop and
restart occasionally (if possible), just in case a crash should wipe out that
one big file.

In article writes:

Of course, even with "unlimited" recording time, you should still stop and
restart occasionally (if possible), just in case a crash should wipe out that
one big file.

I still haven't used my Jukebox 3 for anything critical without a
second machine running, but as any of our regular readers here know, I
use it a lot for carrying music to listen to on airplanes. I'll record
as much of the Saturday midnight bluegrass show on videotape as will
fit (the VCR has a timer to start recording when I'm in bed) and on
Sunday, I can set it up to play back into the Jukebox and go about my
day, having a cross-country load ready for Monday's plane trip.

When I use the Jukebox 3 for concert recording, I split it up into separate
files for each set. I can stand to lose a couple of seconds of the intro or
bumping around of mic stands on stage while the next group is setting up.
Makes finding things that much easier.

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you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

"William Sommerwerck" writes:
Of course, even with "unlimited" recording time, you should still stop and
restart occasionally (if possible), just in case a crash should wipe out that
one big file.

It uses the fat32 file system, which links the blocks in the file
together (i.e. each block points to the next block) rather than having
a block table in a separate place on the disk. So even if there's a
crash, it should be possible to retrieve the recording with standard
data recovery tools.

Bob Cain wrote:

Is recording from digital in limited to 16 bits?

To the best of my knowledge, it is.

Arny Krueger wrote:

I'm sure we'll shortly have portable music players with wireless net access
and built-in browsers. That's called a PDA with a hard drive and good
converters, no? Indeed, if there isn't an operational model or ten at
Creative's, Apple's, iRiver's, Dell's, Gateway's etc. I'd be totally
surprised.

See our PDAudio.

--
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Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com
Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912

Arny Krueger wrote:

Is recording from digital in limited to 16 bits?

Yes.

Up to 48 KS/s.

--
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Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com
Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912

See our PDAudio.

The name is a misnomer, because (as far as I can tell) it doesn't work with
PDAs -- only Pocket PCs.

"William Sommerwerck" wrote in message
...
See our PDAudio.

The name is a misnomer, because (as far as I can tell) it doesn't work
with
PDAs -- only Pocket PCs.


A Pocket PC is a PDA. Would you also say that Final Cut Pro isn't a
"computer" video editing system because it only works with Macs?

See our PDAudio.

The name is a misnomer, because (as far as I can tell)
it doesn't work with PDAs -- only Pocket PCs.

A Pocket PC is a PDA. Would you also say that Final Cut Pro isn't a
"computer" video editing system because it only works with Macs?

That's a really dumb comparison. A Macintosh is a computer.

There's a fairly clear dividing line between PDAs and Pocket PCs. The former are
intended to do a few things well, with the option of running a wide range of
not-very-complex software (GPS programs being the obvious exception). Pocket PCs
are supposed to be "real" Windows-based computers that will run just about any
PC software, but also have readily accessible PDA functions.

None of the Core Sound "PDAudio" products work with any brand or model of PDA.
The work only with Pocket PCs. Nothing wrong with that, but the designation is
misleading.

William Sommerwerck wrote:

There's a fairly clear dividing line between PDAs and Pocket PCs. The former are
intended to do a few things well, with the option of running a wide range of
not-very-complex software (GPS programs being the obvious exception). Pocket PCs
are supposed to be "real" Windows-based computers that will run just about any
PC software, but also have readily accessible PDA functions.

You might disagree, but in practive, all the little computers that run
Pocket PC are commonly called PDAs. They don't run PC software at all,
though there are some versions of popular software applications that
have been written specifically for Pocket PCs.

Our PDAudio-CF digital audio interface card can also be used with laptop
and desktop PCs.

The name was chosen to highlight its ability to turn a PDA into a high
resolution digital audio recorder.

For more details, please visit our Web site.

--
Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com
Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912

(Len Moskowitz) writes:
Our PDAudio-CF digital audio interface card can also be used with laptop
and desktop PCs.

The name was chosen to highlight its ability to turn a PDA into a high
resolution digital audio recorder.

Len,

Have you looked at the new Zaurus 6000? 400 mhz xscale processor,
Linux OS, CF2 slot, SD slot, and USB ***HOST*** interface (as opposed
to "device" interface). That is, the Zaurus's USB port is not like
the one on a USB keyboard, that you plug into a PC. Rather, it's like
the PC side, so you can plug a keyboard into it.

In particular, I'm imagining plugging a USB A-D converter (Duo,
Mini-Me, or whatever) into that USB host port, leaving the CF slot
free for a 4 GB Microdrive. That would let you record for 6+ hours at
44/16 resolution with a lot less extraneous hardware than the iPaq
PDAudio-CF system currently needs.

Sound doable/interesting?

Paul Rubin writes:

(Len Moskowitz) writes:
Our PDAudio-CF digital audio interface card can also be used with laptop
and desktop PCs.

The name was chosen to highlight its ability to turn a PDA into a high
resolution digital audio recorder.

Len,

Have you looked at the new Zaurus 6000? 400 mhz xscale processor,
Linux OS, CF2 slot, SD slot, and USB ***HOST*** interface (as opposed
to "device" interface). That is, the Zaurus's USB port is not like
the one on a USB keyboard, that you plug into a PC. Rather, it's like
the PC side, so you can plug a keyboard into it.

In particular, I'm imagining plugging a USB A-D converter (Duo,
Mini-Me, or whatever) into that USB host port, leaving the CF slot
free for a 4 GB Microdrive. That would let you record for 6+ hours at
44/16 resolution with a lot less extraneous hardware than the iPaq
PDAudio-CF system currently needs.

Sound doable/interesting?

This is exactly what I was thinking: Find a PDA with a USB and CF slot.
Then you can use any external USB device. It doesn't even need optical
output.

Can anyone suggest a *current* PDA that would do this? It should
- run linux (and alsa, www.asla-project.org)
- support USB devices
- support = 1GB CF media (CF is cheapest, and also you can use microdrives)

Richard

writes:
This is exactly what I was thinking: Find a PDA with a USB and CF slot.
Then you can use any external USB device. It doesn't even need optical
output.

No no, the point is there are two kinds of USB ports: "host" (what a PC
has), and "device" (what something like a keyboard or mouse or disk drive
or a/d converter has). You plug USB "devices" into USB "hosts".

Almost all PDA's have "device" USB ports, so you can plug them into a
PC and sync your address book. The Zaurus 6000 is unique in that it
has a host port. I don't know what you do to sync it with a PC.

The name was chosen to highlight its ability to turn
a PDA into a high-resolution digital audio recorder.

All well and good, but none of your products will work with my Palm Tungsten
T-3 -- or any other Palm or HandSpring or Sony Clie device.

Paul Rubin wrote:
writes:
This is exactly what I was thinking: Find a PDA with a USB and CF
slot. Then you can use any external USB device. It doesn't even
need optical output.

No no, the point is there are two kinds of USB ports: "host" (what a
PC has), and "device" (what something like a keyboard or mouse or
disk drive or a/d converter has). You plug USB "devices" into USB
"hosts".

Almost all PDA's have "device" USB ports, so you can plug them into a
PC and sync your address book. The Zaurus 6000 is unique in that it
has a host port. I don't know what you do to sync it with a PC.

Get an appropriate host-to-host adaptor, natch.

They've existed for PCs for years. The only thing what would vary in this
case, is the device driver for the PDA.

"Arny Krueger" writes:
Almost all PDA's have "device" USB ports, so you can plug them into a
PC and sync your address book. The Zaurus 6000 is unique in that it
has a host port. I don't know what you do to sync it with a PC.

Get an appropriate host-to-host adaptor, natch.

They've existed for PCs for years. The only thing what would vary in this
case, is the device driver for the PDA.

Right, there'd have to be some special software on one or both ends.
I wasn't aware that such adapters existed, and figured that was the reason.

I can't remember how to find this website again but about 6 months ago
I was thinking of buying an MP3 recorder like the Argus Jukebox and
while doing a bunch of Google searches for MP3 and portable digital
recorders, I found this PDA based multitrack with a A/D interface and
software. I thought it was very cool but it was way too expensive for
my needs (recording rehearsals). You may find it the same way I did
by using those key words in the search. Portable digital audio
recorder and MP3 recorder or "PDA digital audio recorder".


On 02 Apr 2004 02:06:02 -0500, wrote:

Paul Rubin writes:

(Len Moskowitz) writes:
Our PDAudio-CF digital audio interface card can also be used with laptop
and desktop PCs.

The name was chosen to highlight its ability to turn a PDA into a high
resolution digital audio recorder.

Len,

Have you looked at the new Zaurus 6000? 400 mhz xscale processor,
Linux OS, CF2 slot, SD slot, and USB ***HOST*** interface (as opposed
to "device" interface). That is, the Zaurus's USB port is not like
the one on a USB keyboard, that you plug into a PC. Rather, it's like
the PC side, so you can plug a keyboard into it.

In particular, I'm imagining plugging a USB A-D converter (Duo,
Mini-Me, or whatever) into that USB host port, leaving the CF slot
free for a 4 GB Microdrive. That would let you record for 6+ hours at
44/16 resolution with a lot less extraneous hardware than the iPaq
PDAudio-CF system currently needs.

Sound doable/interesting?

This is exactly what I was thinking: Find a PDA with a USB and CF slot.
Then you can use any external USB device. It doesn't even need optical
output.

Can anyone suggest a *current* PDA that would do this? It should
- run linux (and alsa, www.asla-project.org)
- support USB devices
- support = 1GB CF media (CF is cheapest, and also you can use microdrives)

Richard

writes:
I can't remember how to find this website again but about 6 months ago
I was thinking of buying an MP3 recorder like the Argus Jukebox and
while doing a bunch of Google searches for MP3 and portable digital
recorders, I found this PDA based multitrack with a A/D interface and
software. I thought it was very cool but it was way too expensive for
my needs (recording rehearsals). You may find it the same way I did
by using those key words in the search. Portable digital audio
recorder and MP3 recorder or "PDA digital audio recorder".

Um, you're probably thinking of the Core Sound PDAudio product, made by
Len, the guy I was responding to ;-). See http://core-sound.com.

In article ,
Paul Rubin wrote:

Almost all PDA's have "device" USB ports, so you can plug them into a
PC and sync your address book. The Zaurus 6000 is unique in that it
has a host port. I don't know what you do to sync it with a PC.

The Toshiba e805 and older e755 have USB host capability. They also
have one CF card slot and one SD card slot. We use their USB with
PDAudio to run external USB hard drives.

--
Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com
Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912

William Sommerwerck wrote:

The name was chosen to highlight its ability to turn
a PDA into a high-resolution digital audio recorder.

All well and good, but none of your products will work with my Palm Tungsten
T-3 -- or any other Palm or HandSpring or Sony Clie device.

We'd love to host PDAudio on them. Unfortunately, none of them have the
combination of computing power and the right interfaces (kind and
number).

At the moment, only the Pocket PCs can do 24/96 linear recording to hard
disk or flash memory.

--
Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com
Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912

(Len Moskowitz) writes:

In article ,
Paul Rubin wrote:

Almost all PDA's have "device" USB ports, so you can plug them into a
PC and sync your address book. The Zaurus 6000 is unique in that it
has a host port. I don't know what you do to sync it with a PC.

The Toshiba e805 and older e755 have USB host capability. They also
have one CF card slot and one SD card slot. We use their USB with
PDAudio to run external USB hard drives.

--
Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com
Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912

Thanks for the tip.

By the way, another idea is *anything* with PCMCIA. Are there any
small devices with that? Then you could connect anything you want.

By the way, I think you're on the right track with dedicated hardware and
software, Len. It is too pricey for me, but I have to admit I prefer
something on the level of a consumer device instead of a laptop. I've just
had so many headaches getting software to run that I don't need the hastle
when I go out to see a show. I think that's why everyone likes minidisc.
They are really simple to use and nearly foolproof. You just hit record and
start drinking beer...

Richard

Paul Rubin wrote:

Have you looked at the new Zaurus 6000? 400 mhz xscale processor,
Linux OS, CF2 slot, SD slot, and USB ***HOST*** interface (as opposed
to "device" interface). That is, the Zaurus's USB port is not like
the one on a USB keyboard, that you plug into a PC. Rather, it's like
the PC side, so you can plug a keyboard into it.

The SD slot interface doesn't ue the full 4-bit data path and has been
found to be too slow for high res audio.

Also Sharp has pretty much dropped Zaurus support and distribution here
in the US. That doesn't make it an attractive platform for developers.

In particular, I'm imagining plugging a USB A-D converter (Duo,
Mini-Me, or whatever) into that USB host port, leaving the CF slot
free for a 4 GB Microdrive. That would let you record for 6+ hours at
44/16 resolution with a lot less extraneous hardware than the iPaq
PDAudio-CF system currently needs.

An HP h2215 iPAQ takes both SD cards and CF cards. It's really small,
and is fast enough to record 16/44.1 linear PCM to an SD card. Plug in
a PDAudio-CF card and a 1 GB SD card, add a Mic2496 and you'll have what
you want in a smaller package than what you described.

--
Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com
Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912

All well and good, but none of your products will work
with my Palm Tungsten T-3 -- or any other Palm or
HandSpring or Sony Clie device.

We'd love to host PDAudio on them. Unfortunately, none
has the combination of computing power and the right
interfaces (kind and number).

I can't speak for the interface situation, but the Palm Tungsten T-3 has a 400
MHz processor.

Some reviewers questioned why such a fast processor was needed. It appears it
was chosen to permit playing video.

William Sommerwerck wrote:

We'd love to host PDAudio on them. Unfortunately, none
has the combination of computing power and the right
interfaces (kind and number).

I can't speak for the interface situation, but the Palm Tungsten T-3 has a 400
MHz processor.

It only has a single SD card slot and the Palm-only Universal Interface
connector.





--
Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com
Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912

(Len Moskowitz) writes:
Have you looked at the new Zaurus 6000? 400 mhz xscale processor,
Linux OS, CF2 slot, SD slot, and USB ***HOST*** interface (as opposed
to "device" interface). That is, the Zaurus's USB port is not like
the one on a USB keyboard, that you plug into a PC. Rather, it's like
the PC side, so you can plug a keyboard into it.

The SD slot interface doesn't ue the full 4-bit data path and has been
found to be too slow for high res audio.

The idea is to use the USB host port to communicate with an external
a/d converter, and use the CF slot to hold a 4GB microdrive. The SD
slot doesn't come into it. (Also, I was under the impression that the
SD slot supported the 4-bit data path, but didn't support SDIO, which
is a separate feature not really relevant here).

Also Sharp has pretty much dropped Zaurus support and distribution here
in the US. That doesn't make it an attractive platform for developers.

Are you sure?!!! I thought they just released a new model (SL-6000)
which would seem to mean continued support and distribution.

An HP h2215 iPAQ takes both SD cards and CF cards. It's really small,
and is fast enough to record 16/44.1 linear PCM to an SD card. Plug in
a PDAudio-CF card and a 1 GB SD card, add a Mic2496 and you'll have what
you want in a smaller package than what you described.

Cool, do you ever think of making a dedicated recorder? That would
have an HD, mic preamps, A/D's, and power supply all in one box, with
some tape recorder-like pushbuttons, plus a USB port (or even wifi) so
you could control it from your favorite Palm, Pocket PC, or Zaurus.