If I had two systems going, room A and room B and a plugin I wasn't
using in room A was needed in room B but authorized from the iLok in
computer A, could I unplug the iLok key and fire up the other computer
to use the plugin without turning off the original 002? Does the iLok
communicate with the Mac during the session?

Or would the one I just unplugged go ape**** and call the DigiPolice
in the middle of a session and order me to buy more plugins because
they think I'm a plugin terrorist?

I'm looking at how to best allocate resources when I install plugins.
I DON'T want iLok problems with having to install and uninstall dv
configurations all over the place.

It's Digidesign, so I know that the solution is probably
AAARRRGGGHHH! but what has anyone's experience been?




Kurt Riemann

I will try this and see what happens. Todd

Todd Fitzgerald
Chief Engineer
OarFin Studios Minneapolis
www.oarfinrecords.com

On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 0:57:30 -0800, Kurt Riemann wrote
(in message ):

Does the iLok
communicate with the Mac during the session?
--------------------------------snip----------------------------------

As far as I know... no.

It is possible to boot up one system with the iLok attached, let ProTools
launch (and find all the plug-ins and confirm the iLok authorization), and
then disconnect the iLok and use it with another system.

It's real inconvenient to do this, though. And of course, if you have a
crash, you'll need to get the iLok back in order to re-boot ProTools and the
plug-ins. But what you ask for will work, in my experience.

--MFW

In article ,
Marc Wielage wrote:

It is possible to boot up one system with the iLok attached, let ProTools
launch (and find all the plug-ins and confirm the iLok authorization), and
then disconnect the iLok and use it with another system.



That's my understanding as well. Just don't quit PT on the first system
with the missing iLok.



David Correia
Celebration Sound
Warren, Rhode Island


www.CelebrationSound.com

Marc Wielage wrote:

Does the iLok
communicate with the Mac during the session?
--------------------------------snip----------------------------------

As far as I know... no.

It depends on the system and the plug-in. Pro Tools doesn't
"pre-authorize" all plug-ins on launch. If you launch Pro Tools, then
two hours later add a plug-in, it will expect to see the iLok there.

It's real inconvenient to do this, though. And of course, if you have a
crash, you'll need to get the iLok back in order to re-boot ProTools and the
plug-ins. But what you ask for will work, in my experience.

Well, this is awfully easy to check. Just launch Pro Tools, remove
the iLok, then launch most any plug-in. It will prompt you to insert
the iLok.

Some companies poll for the iLok every time you add another instance,
change a setting, load a preset, or whatever. It's up to the vendor.

Contrary to what a very few, very noisy people seem to think, I try to
keep it reasonable and tend to turn my head to a lot of this stuff.
But if studios are building multiple rooms, buying several Macs and
several Pro Tools rigs -- but then decide to cheap out on buying the
same amount of software -- I have a problem with that.

Most plug-in companies are three guys in a barn. If you're going to
give your money to billion dollar corporations and screw the little
guy, that's not cool.

--Erik

Erik Gavriluk wrote:
But if studios are building multiple rooms, buying several Macs and
several Pro Tools rigs -- but then decide to cheap out on buying the
same amount of software -- I have a problem with that.

If they bought hardware units they could be used in all the rooms (not
simultaneously, ok).
With todays plug-ins every single plug-in had to have its own iLok to
achieve that...

Peter
---
http://www.merlinsound.de

In article ,
Peter Duemmler wrote:
Erik Gavriluk wrote:
But if studios are building multiple rooms, buying several Macs and
several Pro Tools rigs -- but then decide to cheap out on buying the
same amount of software -- I have a problem with that.

If they bought hardware units they could be used in all the rooms (not
simultaneously, ok).
With todays plug-ins every single plug-in had to have its own iLok to
achieve that...

Well, supposedly you can have 127 devices on a USB bus, so it seems
quite feasible to do what you describe. Many bundles have only a few
keys to cover a lot of plugins, so there's not a 1:1 relationship
between files in the Plug Ins folder and iLoks.

It'd be a little expensive at $40 per iLok and some $$ for a pile of
hubs, but compared to the cost of the software, it isn't so bad
either.


Regards,

Monte McGuire

"Peter Duemmler" wrote:

If they bought hardware units they could be used in all the rooms (not
simultaneously, ok).
With todays plug-ins every single plug-in had to have its own iLok to
achieve that...

But they didn't buy hardware units, they bought software.

If you want to move your computer and it's attached iLok from studio
to studio, go for it.

If you want to subvert your license agreements because you're too
cheap to pay for your software for all your music computers -- despite
the fact that you gave money to billion dollar corporations like Apple
and AVID for each of those computer systems -- I have problems with
that on ethical, moral and legal grounds.

Erik Gavriluk wrote:

If you want to subvert your license agreements because you're too
cheap to pay for your software for all your music computers

When am I subverting the licence agreement?
When I´m using one iLok on different computers (one at a time)?

Or just when I´m taking the iLok from one computer with a running session
and running plug-ins to another computer and run a session / plug-ins there,
too?

Peter
---
http://www.merlinsound.de

"Peter Duemmler" wrote:

When am I subverting the licence agreement?
When I´m using one iLok on different computers (one at a time)?

Or just when I´m taking the iLok from one computer with a running session
and running plug-ins to another computer and run a session / plug-ins there,
too?

I didn't accuse you of doing anything. Likewise, I'm sure we both
know the game here.

If you personally possess anything resembling a consistent set of
morals and ethics, you know what to do. If you lack them, then
there's no point in me lecturing you.

--Erik

Erik Gavriluk wrote:
"Peter Duemmler" wrote:

When am I subverting the licence agreement?
When I´m using one iLok on different computers (one at a time)?

Or just when I´m taking the iLok from one computer with a running
session and running plug-ins to another computer and run a session /
plug-ins there, too?

I didn't accuse you of doing anything. Likewise, I'm sure we both
know the game here.

If you personally possess anything resembling a consistent set of
morals and ethics, you know what to do. If you lack them, then
there's no point in me lecturing you.

I´m not doing either of the above, I only have one audio computer running.
I was just asking what of the above is subverting the agreement, because I
want to know.

Peter
---
http://www.merlinsound.de