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New PC computer Setup to use MOTU 24I/O?
I need to construct 3 PC systems for 24 track recording/playback for live club
setups. The MOTU 24 I/O is the only solution to fit the budget...as well as available rack space. I have older MOTU setups..1224 and 2408 working on a machine now and have never had real trouble as long as proper drivers were installed. In building new machines, anyone have suggestions for MOBO's, processors..etc that work well with the MOTU hardware? Thanks, John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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New PC computer Setup to use MOTU 24I/O?
"Blind Joni" wrote in message
I need to construct 3 PC systems for 24 track recording/playback for live club setups. The MOTU 24 I/O is the only solution to fit the budget...as well as available rack space. I have older MOTU setups..1224 and 2408 working on a machine now and have never had real trouble as long as proper drivers were installed. In building new machines, anyone have suggestions for MOBO's, processors..etc that work well with the MOTU hardware? Let me get out my old mobo. Okay, it's an Asus A7s333. Notice I said "old." Don't get it. I bought it because my Delta 1010 didn't work with the Via-based board I had. Two weeks later I decided to upgrade to a 24i and the 324 card wouldn't install. I bought a new motherboard and all is great now. It's an MSI K7N2 and is working just fine. Keep in mind that these are all AMD motherboards. I'm running an Athlon XP 1.24 GHz processor and I like it. If you're a Pentium person then all bets are off and you can disregard my entire post. |
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New PC computer Setup to use MOTU 24I/O?
"Blind Joni" wrote in message ... I need to construct 3 PC systems for 24 track recording/playback for live club setups. The MOTU 24 I/O is the only solution to fit the budget...as well as available rack space. I have older MOTU setups..1224 and 2408 working on a machine now and have never had real trouble as long as proper drivers were installed. In building new machines, anyone have suggestions for MOBO's, processors..etc that work well with the MOTU hardware? Thanks, John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 I'm using a MOTU HD192 and 2408 MkIII with a PCI-424 card ( of course ) on a ASUS P4PE motherboard and it seems to work well. Adaptec SCSI card, Matrox dual video and UAD-1 cards too. 1 MB RAM. Best of luck! John L Rice |
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New PC computer Setup to use MOTU 24I/O?
"Blind Joni" wrote in message ... I need to construct 3 PC systems for 24 track recording/playback for live club setups. The MOTU 24 I/O is the only solution to fit the budget...as well as available rack space. I have older MOTU setups..1224 and 2408 working on a machine now and have never had real trouble as long as proper drivers were installed. In building new machines, anyone have suggestions for MOBO's, processors..etc that work well with the MOTU hardware? Thanks, Hi, I'm using the 2408MK3 (424 card) with an Asus-P4G8X Deluxe mother board. I love it. It works great, even with other firewire devices installed. No problems! Also, when you couldn't install the MOTU before, what error message were you getting? I've been able to correct some install issues with MOTU gear and other PC's. |
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New PC computer Setup to use MOTU 24I/O?
I have a 24 I/O (with PCI-424 card) running perfectly on a Asus P4C800
Delux with a Pentium 4 3.0 ghz with HT. No problems at all, about 4 months so far of daily use. Adam Calaitzis Toyland Recording Studio www.toyland.com.au "Blind Joni" wrote in message ... I need to construct 3 PC systems for 24 track recording/playback for live club setups. The MOTU 24 I/O is the only solution to fit the budget...as well as available rack space. I have older MOTU setups..1224 and 2408 working on a machine now and have never had real trouble as long as proper drivers were installed. In building new machines, anyone have suggestions for MOBO's, processors..etc that work well with the MOTU hardware? Thanks, John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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New PC computer Setup to use MOTU 24I/O?
I've got the 24i/o and 2408MkIII running on the Asus P4PE with the Intel
3.06 GHz Pentium 4 CPU As I've built a lot of systems, I too had problems when I tried using VIA chipsets and interfacing outboard audio/video devices. So now I stay away from VIA chipsets (for Athlon CPUs) and stay with Intel P4. "Blind Joni" wrote in message ... I need to construct 3 PC systems for 24 track recording/playback for live club setups. The MOTU 24 I/O is the only solution to fit the budget...as well as available rack space. I have older MOTU setups..1224 and 2408 working on a machine now and have never had real trouble as long as proper drivers were installed. In building new machines, anyone have suggestions for MOBO's, processors..etc that work well with the MOTU hardware? Thanks, John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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New PC computer Setup to use MOTU 24I/O?
thanks everyone!!
John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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Rob / Adam, maybe you can help....was New PC computer Setup to use MOTU 24I/O?
Rob, I'm running a 24i/o on an ASUS P4PE with a 2.4 GHz P4, 512M RAM and I
get what appear to be random "skips" on recording. Doesn't appear to be related to track count ( happens if I record 2 tracks or 18 tracks. the skip happens on all tracks). Shows up as a discontinuous waveform with a click, as if a chunk of audio didn't make it to the HD. Running Windows ME, Cubase 5, Matrox G400 . No LAN, no modem, no nothing. Cubase doesn't show heavy usage of either the CPU or the HD. Got any ideas? thanks, Karl "Rob" wrote in message news:sQLsb.190945$Tr4.541147@attbi_s03... I've got the 24i/o and 2408MkIII running on the Asus P4PE with the Intel 3.06 GHz Pentium 4 CPU As I've built a lot of systems, I too had problems when I tried using VIA chipsets and interfacing outboard audio/video devices. So now I stay away from VIA chipsets (for Athlon CPUs) and stay with Intel P4. "Blind Joni" wrote in message ... I need to construct 3 PC systems for 24 track recording/playback for live club setups. The MOTU 24 I/O is the only solution to fit the budget...as well as available rack space. I have older MOTU setups..1224 and 2408 working on a machine now and have never had real trouble as long as proper drivers were installed. In building new machines, anyone have suggestions for MOBO's, processors..etc that work well with the MOTU hardware? Thanks, John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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Rob / Adam, maybe you can help....was New PC computer Setup to use MOTU 24I/O?
Shows up as a discontinuous waveform with a click,
as if a chunk of audio didn't make it to the HD. Running Windows ME The ME is the problem I would say. John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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Rob / Adam, maybe you can help....was New PC computer Setup to use MOTU 24I/O?
What makes you think that...karl
"Blind Joni" wrote in message ... Shows up as a discontinuous waveform with a click, as if a chunk of audio didn't make it to the HD. Running Windows ME The ME is the problem I would say. John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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Rob / Adam, maybe you can help....was New PC computer Setupto use MOTU 24I/O?
Even Microsoft admits that ME is the worst POS they ever put out (no,
they don't call it that). H-P has an in-warranty upgrade to XP for those home users who figure it out within a year. Judy and Karl wrote: What makes you think that...karl "Blind Joni" wrote in message ... Shows up as a discontinuous waveform with a click, as if a chunk of audio didn't make it to the HD. Running Windows ME The ME is the problem I would say. John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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Rob / Adam, maybe you can help....was New PC computer Setup to use MOTU 24I/O?
"Judy and Karl" wrote in message
... Rob, I'm running a 24i/o on an ASUS P4PE with a 2.4 GHz P4, 512M RAM and I get what appear to be random "skips" on recording. Doesn't appear to be related to track count ( happens if I record 2 tracks or 18 tracks. the skip happens on all tracks). Shows up as a discontinuous waveform with a click, as if a chunk of audio didn't make it to the HD. Running Windows ME, Cubase 5, Matrox G400 . No LAN, no modem, no nothing. Cubase doesn't show heavy usage of either the CPU or the HD. Got any ideas? I'd agree with John on ME being the culprit. ME just plain sucks (sorry for saying that if you like it). It doesn't increase the capabilities past 98SE and it's no where near as stable and capable like Win2k or XP. Upgrade to XP and you should be fine. Probably one of your better bets anyway, whether one is trying to record or not. But in this case, ME was never a solid performer with multi-media. And when you want to record, I'm sure, as you've noted, you don't want to be hearing glitches or small missing parts. Any computer shows around your parts? Usually you can get XP fairly easily and for a good bit less than retail. -- Roger W. Norman SirMusic Studio Purchase your copy of the Fifth of RAP CD set at www.recaudiopro.net. See how far $20 really goes. |
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Rob / Adam, maybe you can help....was New PC computer Setup to use MOTU 24I/O?
"S O'Neill" wrote in message
... Even Microsoft admits that ME is the worst POS they ever put out (no, they don't call it that). H-P has an in-warranty upgrade to XP for those home users who figure it out within a year. Yep. MS ought to pay everyone that bought it back or give them XP for free. What a **** thing for MS to do. I know I've ranted about paying consumers being beta testers with apps today, but in the case of ME it was alpha testing and the release never went past beta. It just got released. **** think for MS to do. I thought just a little bit better of them than that. -- Roger W. Norman SirMusic Studio Purchase your copy of the Fifth of RAP CD set at www.recaudiopro.net. See how far $20 really goes. Judy and Karl wrote: What makes you think that...karl "Blind Joni" wrote in message ... Shows up as a discontinuous waveform with a click, as if a chunk of audio didn't make it to the HD. Running Windows ME The ME is the problem I would say. John A. Chiara SOS Recording Studio Live Sound Inc. Albany, NY www.sosrecording.net 518-449-1637 |
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Rob / Adam, maybe you can help....was New PC computer Setup to use MOTU 24I/O?
thanks Roger, will do. karl
"Roger W. Norman" wrote in message ... "Judy and Karl" wrote in message ... Rob, I'm running a 24i/o on an ASUS P4PE with a 2.4 GHz P4, 512M RAM and I get what appear to be random "skips" on recording. Doesn't appear to be related to track count ( happens if I record 2 tracks or 18 tracks. the skip happens on all tracks). Shows up as a discontinuous waveform with a click, as if a chunk of audio didn't make it to the HD. Running Windows ME, Cubase 5, Matrox G400 . No LAN, no modem, no nothing. Cubase doesn't show heavy usage of either the CPU or the HD. Got any ideas? I'd agree with John on ME being the culprit. ME just plain sucks (sorry for saying that if you like it). It doesn't increase the capabilities past 98SE and it's no where near as stable and capable like Win2k or XP. Upgrade to XP and you should be fine. Probably one of your better bets anyway, whether one is trying to record or not. But in this case, ME was never a solid performer with multi-media. And when you want to record, I'm sure, as you've noted, you don't want to be hearing glitches or small missing parts. Any computer shows around your parts? Usually you can get XP fairly easily and for a good bit less than retail. -- Roger W. Norman SirMusic Studio Purchase your copy of the Fifth of RAP CD set at www.recaudiopro.net. See how far $20 really goes. |
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Rob / Adam, maybe you can help....was New PC computer Setup to use MOTU 24I/O?
"Roger W. Norman" wrote in message
"Judy and Karl" wrote in message ... Rob, I'm running a 24i/o on an ASUS P4PE with a 2.4 GHz P4, 512M RAM and I get what appear to be random "skips" on recording. Doesn't appear to be related to track count ( happens if I record 2 tracks or 18 tracks. the skip happens on all tracks). Shows up as a discontinuous waveform with a click, as if a chunk of audio didn't make it to the HD. Running Windows ME, Cubase 5, Matrox G400 . No LAN, no modem, no nothing. Cubase doesn't show heavy usage of either the CPU or the HD. Got any ideas? This is the classic lost data problem. It could be hardware-related i.e., bus domination by a video card, or it could be resource constraint related i.e., too many resident programs. If this is a general-purpose machine that also surfs the web, issues like spyware and viruss become significant. I've seen a lot of machines brought back from the edge by "Ad-Aware", freeware spyware remover. I'd agree with John on ME being the culprit. ME just plain sucks (sorry for saying that if you like it). It doesn't increase the capabilities past 98SE and it's no where near as stable and capable like Win2k or XP. Upgrade to XP and you should be fine. Probably one of your better bets anyway, whether one is trying to record or not. But in this case, ME was never a solid performer with multi-media. And when you want to record, I'm sure, as you've noted, you don't want to be hearing glitches or small missing parts. Any computer shows around your parts? Usually you can get XP fairly easily and for a good bit less than retail. Totally agreed that ME was one of MS's worst ideas in the last decade. Totally agreed that XP is a dramatic upgrade in just about every way. However the ME stench is so bad that upgrading from ME to XP should be avoided in deference to a clean install of XP. It turns out that one can get rid of the more objectionable parts of ME with judicious use of MSCONFIG and/or REGEDIT fields related to MSCONFIG. Do things right and you're pretty close to SE, for what that's worth in the current context. Many of ME's featchurs were implemented as resident programs that are loaded after boot. Keep them from being loaded, and you have a cleaner system. However, the basic stench of inherent unreliability and junk code can not be totally removed without deep-sixing ME. |
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Rob / Adam, maybe you can help....was New PC computer Setup to use MOTU 24I/O?
thanks arny, just did a clean install of xp last night. now i'll see if it
fixes the problem. thanks for the more in-depth analysis of the OS. karl "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Roger W. Norman" wrote in message "Judy and Karl" wrote in message ... Rob, I'm running a 24i/o on an ASUS P4PE with a 2.4 GHz P4, 512M RAM and I get what appear to be random "skips" on recording. Doesn't appear to be related to track count ( happens if I record 2 tracks or 18 tracks. the skip happens on all tracks). Shows up as a discontinuous waveform with a click, as if a chunk of audio didn't make it to the HD. Running Windows ME, Cubase 5, Matrox G400 . No LAN, no modem, no nothing. Cubase doesn't show heavy usage of either the CPU or the HD. Got any ideas? This is the classic lost data problem. It could be hardware-related i.e., bus domination by a video card, or it could be resource constraint related i.e., too many resident programs. If this is a general-purpose machine that also surfs the web, issues like spyware and viruss become significant. I've seen a lot of machines brought back from the edge by "Ad-Aware", freeware spyware remover. I'd agree with John on ME being the culprit. ME just plain sucks (sorry for saying that if you like it). It doesn't increase the capabilities past 98SE and it's no where near as stable and capable like Win2k or XP. Upgrade to XP and you should be fine. Probably one of your better bets anyway, whether one is trying to record or not. But in this case, ME was never a solid performer with multi-media. And when you want to record, I'm sure, as you've noted, you don't want to be hearing glitches or small missing parts. Any computer shows around your parts? Usually you can get XP fairly easily and for a good bit less than retail. Totally agreed that ME was one of MS's worst ideas in the last decade. Totally agreed that XP is a dramatic upgrade in just about every way. However the ME stench is so bad that upgrading from ME to XP should be avoided in deference to a clean install of XP. It turns out that one can get rid of the more objectionable parts of ME with judicious use of MSCONFIG and/or REGEDIT fields related to MSCONFIG. Do things right and you're pretty close to SE, for what that's worth in the current context. Many of ME's featchurs were implemented as resident programs that are loaded after boot. Keep them from being loaded, and you have a cleaner system. However, the basic stench of inherent unreliability and junk code can not be totally removed without deep-sixing ME. |
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Rob / Adam, maybe you can help....was New PC computer Setup to use MOTU 24I/O?
OK, I'll agree that a clean install of XP is warrented any time you can
afford to do it. If one has legal applications that will not install on XP then that's a different subject. Either one commits to an entire new OS/application re-install or one simply upgrades. That means peripheral drivers, raid drivers/mobo drivers, etc, along with the applications. So let's make it clear. Anyone wanting to do an upgrade into a clean directory had better have all the updates from MS first. Otherwise a lot of things aren't going to run or they will run wrong. -- Roger W. Norman SirMusic Studio Purchase your copy of the Fifth of RAP CD set at www.recaudiopro.net. See how far $20 really goes. "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Roger W. Norman" wrote in message "Judy and Karl" wrote in message ... Rob, I'm running a 24i/o on an ASUS P4PE with a 2.4 GHz P4, 512M RAM and I get what appear to be random "skips" on recording. Doesn't appear to be related to track count ( happens if I record 2 tracks or 18 tracks. the skip happens on all tracks). Shows up as a discontinuous waveform with a click, as if a chunk of audio didn't make it to the HD. Running Windows ME, Cubase 5, Matrox G400 . No LAN, no modem, no nothing. Cubase doesn't show heavy usage of either the CPU or the HD. Got any ideas? This is the classic lost data problem. It could be hardware-related i.e., bus domination by a video card, or it could be resource constraint related i.e., too many resident programs. If this is a general-purpose machine that also surfs the web, issues like spyware and viruss become significant. I've seen a lot of machines brought back from the edge by "Ad-Aware", freeware spyware remover. I'd agree with John on ME being the culprit. ME just plain sucks (sorry for saying that if you like it). It doesn't increase the capabilities past 98SE and it's no where near as stable and capable like Win2k or XP. Upgrade to XP and you should be fine. Probably one of your better bets anyway, whether one is trying to record or not. But in this case, ME was never a solid performer with multi-media. And when you want to record, I'm sure, as you've noted, you don't want to be hearing glitches or small missing parts. Any computer shows around your parts? Usually you can get XP fairly easily and for a good bit less than retail. Totally agreed that ME was one of MS's worst ideas in the last decade. Totally agreed that XP is a dramatic upgrade in just about every way. However the ME stench is so bad that upgrading from ME to XP should be avoided in deference to a clean install of XP. It turns out that one can get rid of the more objectionable parts of ME with judicious use of MSCONFIG and/or REGEDIT fields related to MSCONFIG. Do things right and you're pretty close to SE, for what that's worth in the current context. Many of ME's featchurs were implemented as resident programs that are loaded after boot. Keep them from being loaded, and you have a cleaner system. However, the basic stench of inherent unreliability and junk code can not be totally removed without deep-sixing ME. |
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