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Looking for ideas and suggestions.
I've done a couple of gratis audio recordings for the Puget Sound Theater Organ Society of a unique theater organ and piano that is installed in a private home / mansion. Here is a link to information on the home and instrument: http://www.pstos.org/instruments/wa/...view-manor.htm The piano (which is a Yamaha Diskclavier and can be played from the organ via midi) is not an issue as I've had great success with a pair of Schoeps CMC6/MK4's. For the organ I have used two methods so far and am looking to refine my methods as there are now a couple of paying gigs recording these instruments for a CD (no audience) and surround DVD performance with audience. My first outing I placed a pair of Schoeps BLM-03C's on the flat front edge of the balcony which can be seen on the right side of the third to the last picture on the web site. The sound was very solid with amazing capture of low end. I felt it was a bit distant for the quieter less dynamic portions of the performance and because the blowers are fairly close to the room, the blower rumble became more noticeable. For my second outing last week I flew a Pearl MS-8 mid side mic from the balcony on an 18 foot boom pole extended toward the center of the pipe array. I've not yet had a chance to hear the results on anything other than headphones at the recording as the tapes went with away with the video folks who were documenting the concert. Here's a link to the Pearl Mic: http://www.pearl.se/ems8.htm I liked what I was hearing in the headphones but still feel that there could be improvement. One idea I have is to go with the BLM's again but mount them on two squares of Plexiglas flown in the center with a 45 degree angle between them. Should I be considering multiple mics for an instrument like this with possibly omnis or wide cardiods near various sections of the instrument as there are trumpets, horns, drums and all manner of different contraptions? I'd love to hear from those of you with experience in recording theater organs. Charles Tomaras Seattle, WA |
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"Charles Tomaras" wrote ...
Looking for ideas and suggestions. I've done a couple of gratis audio recordings for the Puget Sound Theater Organ Society of a unique theater organ and piano that is installed in a private home / mansion. Here is a link to information on the home and instrument: http://www.pstos.org/instruments/wa/...view-manor.htm The piano (which is a Yamaha Diskclavier and can be played from the organ via midi) is not an issue as I've had great success with a pair of Schoeps CMC6/MK4's. For the organ I have used two methods so far and am looking to refine my methods as there are now a couple of paying gigs recording these instruments for a CD (no audience) and surround DVD performance with audience. My first outing I placed a pair of Schoeps BLM-03C's on the flat front edge of the balcony which can be seen on the right side of the third to the last picture on the web site. The sound was very solid with amazing capture of low end. I felt it was a bit distant for the quieter less dynamic portions of the performance "Traditional" classical pipe organs are critically dependent on the space in which they are installed. Indeed they are "voiced" in-situ (12th-octave EQ from centuries ago! :-) But even theater organs are dependent on their acoustics. Is that wall-to-wall carpeting on the main floor? When you say "quieter" do you mean parts of the music that were played with softer/fewer ranks of pipes, or parts that were played with the expression shutters closed? Possible solution(s) might be different for these two scenarios. and because the blowers are fairly close to the room, the blower rumble became more noticeable. Many (most?) of the recordings of pipe organs that I have heard, particularly the "rescued" theater organs, make no apologies for the mechanical noise (wind supply, tremolo bellows, combination mechanisms, expression shutters, etc.) as they are an accepted part of the "experience" of the venerable but complex instruments. For my second outing last week I flew a Pearl MS-8 mid side mic from the balcony on an 18 foot boom pole extended toward the center of the pipe array. I've not yet had a chance to hear the results on anything other than headphones at the recording as the tapes went with away with the video folks who were documenting the concert. Here's a link to the Pearl Mic: http://www.pearl.se/ems8.htm I liked what I was hearing in the headphones but still feel that there could be improvement. One idea I have is to go with the BLM's again but mount them on two squares of Plexiglas flown in the center with a 45 degree angle between them. Should I be considering multiple mics for an instrument like this with possibly omnis or wide cardiods near various sections of the instrument as there are trumpets, horns, drums and all manner of different contraptions? I'd love to hear from those of you with experience in recording theater organs. I've seen/heard/done recordings done both ways: "classic stereo" micing; and "multi-track spotlight/section micing". Depends on the instrument, the performance space, the music, and the preference of the producer/sponsor. I'd love to work on the project if you need another volunteer on either the audio or the video side. (I'm in PDX.) Audio/video/pipe organ references on my personal website. www.rcrowley.com |
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"Richard Crowley" wrote in message ... "Charles Tomaras" wrote ... Looking for ideas and suggestions. I've done a couple of gratis audio recordings for the Puget Sound Theater Organ Society of a unique theater organ and piano that is installed in a private home / mansion. Here is a link to information on the home and instrument: http://www.pstos.org/instruments/wa/...view-manor.htm The piano (which is a Yamaha Diskclavier and can be played from the organ via midi) is not an issue as I've had great success with a pair of Schoeps CMC6/MK4's. For the organ I have used two methods so far and am looking to refine my methods as there are now a couple of paying gigs recording these instruments for a CD (no audience) and surround DVD performance with audience. My first outing I placed a pair of Schoeps BLM-03C's on the flat front edge of the balcony which can be seen on the right side of the third to the last picture on the web site. The sound was very solid with amazing capture of low end. I felt it was a bit distant for the quieter less dynamic portions of the performance "Traditional" classical pipe organs are critically dependent on the space in which they are installed. Indeed they are "voiced" in-situ (12th-octave EQ from centuries ago! :-) But even theater organs are dependent on their acoustics. Is that wall-to-wall carpeting on the main floor? When you say "quieter" do you mean parts of the music that were played with softer/fewer ranks of pipes, or parts that were played with the expression shutters closed? Possible solution(s) might be different for these two scenarios. As I was in an adjoining room and only able to see the performer and not the pipes I'd have to say both with the shutters closed and with just fewer pipes and less air. and because the blowers are fairly close to the room, the blower rumble became more noticeable. Many (most?) of the recordings of pipe organs that I have heard, particularly the "rescued" theater organs, make no apologies for the mechanical noise (wind supply, tremolo bellows, combination mechanisms, expression shutters, etc.) as they are an accepted part of the "experience" of the venerable but complex instruments. I don't mind the high end hiss of the air supply nor the mechanical sounds of the everything else, it's more a low end rumble from the blower motors that I'm told in many installations are much further or better isolated from the performance space. I would imagine that some judicuous post eq or noise removal could go a long way towards minimizing this low end especially on more exposed passages where low end pipes are not being emphasized. For my second outing last week I flew a Pearl MS-8 mid side mic from the balcony on an 18 foot boom pole extended toward the center of the pipe array. I've not yet had a chance to hear the results on anything other than headphones at the recording as the tapes went with away with the video folks who were documenting the concert. Here's a link to the Pearl Mic: http://www.pearl.se/ems8.htm I liked what I was hearing in the headphones but still feel that there could be improvement. One idea I have is to go with the BLM's again but mount them on two squares of Plexiglas flown in the center with a 45 degree angle between them. Should I be considering multiple mics for an instrument like this with possibly omnis or wide cardiods near various sections of the instrument as there are trumpets, horns, drums and all manner of different contraptions? I'd love to hear from those of you with experience in recording theater organs. I've seen/heard/done recordings done both ways: "classic stereo" micing; and "multi-track spotlight/section micing". Depends on the instrument, the performance space, the music, and the preference of the producer/sponsor. I'd love to work on the project if you need another volunteer on either the audio or the video side. (I'm in PDX.) I'll keep you in mind as we get closer to the next project which will be in late winter or early spring. We are hopefully going to record Jonas Nordwall who resides in Portland. Audio/video/pipe organ references on my personal website. www.rcrowley.com |
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Charles Tomaras wrote:
I don't mind the high end hiss of the air supply nor the mechanical sounds of the everything else, it's more a low end rumble from the blower motors that I'm told in many installations are much further or better isolated from the performance space. I would imagine that some judicuous post eq or noise removal could go a long way towards minimizing this low end especially on more exposed passages where low end pipes are not being emphasized. Some of that is conducted vibration that good shock mounting can reduce. Some of it is due to air currents more than actual noise, and if you can move the mikes around you can often find places in the room where it is much lower. Shut the air conditioning system off! Most people forget all about the HVAC noise. Most of this is broadband stuff so I don't see EQ helping much, but you might try some of the digital noise reduction software just to see if you like the results. I'm going to recommend baffled omni stuff because of the distant imaging and because of the very flat low end. But that flat low end can often make the noise problems worse. I'll keep you in mind as we get closer to the next project which will be in late winter or early spring. We are hopefully going to record Jonas Nordwall who resides in Portland. Where? I did a gig once at an absolutely amazing presbyterian church in Portland, which does seem to be a great place for organ music. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Charles Tomaras wrote:
Looking for ideas and suggestions. I've done a couple of gratis audio recordings for the Puget Sound Theater Organ Society of a unique theater organ and piano that is installed in a private home / mansion. Here is a link to information on the home and instrument: http://www.pstos.org/instruments/wa/...view-manor.htm Just curious, has Rex Khoury ever been in there? |
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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message ... Charles Tomaras wrote: I don't mind the high end hiss of the air supply nor the mechanical sounds of the everything else, it's more a low end rumble from the blower motors that I'm told in many installations are much further or better isolated from the performance space. I would imagine that some judicuous post eq or noise removal could go a long way towards minimizing this low end especially on more exposed passages where low end pipes are not being emphasized. Some of that is conducted vibration that good shock mounting can reduce. Some of it is due to air currents more than actual noise, and if you can move the mikes around you can often find places in the room where it is much lower. Shut the air conditioning system off! Most people forget all about the HVAC noise. Most of this is broadband stuff so I don't see EQ helping much, but you might try some of the digital noise reduction software just to see if you like the results. I'm going to recommend baffled omni stuff because of the distant imaging and because of the very flat low end. But that flat low end can often make the noise problems worse. Any sites or URL's you can recommend where "baffled" omni's are shown or discussed? I'll keep you in mind as we get closer to the next project which will be in late winter or early spring. We are hopefully going to record Jonas Nordwall who resides in Portland. Where? I did a gig once at an absolutely amazing presbyterian church in Portland, which does seem to be a great place for organ music. --scott The recording will be in the Wurlitzer house in Gig Harbor, WA that I have been speaking about. If I'm not mistaken Jonas Nordwall is the organist at the church you mention. |
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"S O'Neill" wrote in message ... Charles Tomaras wrote: Looking for ideas and suggestions. I've done a couple of gratis audio recordings for the Puget Sound Theater Organ Society of a unique theater organ and piano that is installed in a private home / mansion. Here is a link to information on the home and instrument: http://www.pstos.org/instruments/wa/...view-manor.htm Just curious, has Rex Khoury ever been in there? I'm not familiar with that name so I can't comment. |
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Charles Tomaras wrote:
Scott Dorsey wrote: I'm going to recommend baffled omni stuff because of the distant imaging and because of the very flat low end. But that flat low end can often make the noise problems worse. Any sites or URL's you can recommend where "baffled" omni's are shown or discussed? I think the tutorial on stereophony on the Josephson web site mentions them. They also have some discussion on building a Jecklin disc which is one of the more common baffle arrangement. (The Schoeps sphere is effectively quite similar, as are a couple other baffle systems). I'll keep you in mind as we get closer to the next project which will be in late winter or early spring. We are hopefully going to record Jonas Nordwall who resides in Portland. Where? I did a gig once at an absolutely amazing presbyterian church in Portland, which does seem to be a great place for organ music. The recording will be in the Wurlitzer house in Gig Harbor, WA that I have been speaking about. If I'm not mistaken Jonas Nordwall is the organist at the church you mention. At the time, James Welty was the organist there, but I think he left some time in 1992 or so. Absolutely fabulous organ, though, and a room that was as good as the organ. We are fortunate enough to have several excellent theatre organs in this area, including the Mighty Wurlitzer at the Byrd Theatre in Richmond, VA. It is just amazing to sit on the edge of the stage and listen to the clattering and whirring from the mechanism, though. Lots and lots of big telegraph relays... --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message ... We are fortunate enough to have several excellent theatre organs in this area, including the Mighty Wurlitzer at the Byrd Theatre in Richmond, VA. It is just amazing to sit on the edge of the stage and listen to the clattering and whirring from the mechanism, though. Lots and lots of big telegraph relays... --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Don't know if you read the full description of the organ mechanism I've been talking about, but on this one they have eliminated all those old relays and replaced them with computer relays. It's in the second part of this article if you missed it. The organ will even control the Yamaha Disklavier piano which was used to great effect in the most recent performance called Ragmatazz. The pianist was playing solo ragtime while the organist joined him and seamlessly took over control of the piano as the pianist lifted his hands from the keys and was merely pretending to play. Got a great response from the audience. http://www.pstos.org/instruments/wa/...view-manor.htm "With 48 ranks of pipes and numerous accessories to command, this console is lighter than ever before as all of its work is done by a computer system that requires only electronic components in the console and a single ribbon, about three inches wide, connecting it to the control panel. The wizardry of Mr. Wilcox has made all of this possible, and the technical skill of Ed Zollman has brought it to completion." |
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Charles Tomaras wrote:
Don't know if you read the full description of the organ mechanism I've been talking about, but on this one they have eliminated all those old relays and replaced them with computer relays. It's in the second part of this article if you missed it. The organ will even control the Yamaha Disklavier piano which was used to great effect in the most recent performance called Ragmatazz. The Mighty Wurlitzer at the Byrd can also control a piano as well as a harp from the main console, although it is done with several racks of relays and a solenoid cable out to the piano that is probably two inches around. And no velocity control, of course. "With 48 ranks of pipes and numerous accessories to command, this console is lighter than ever before as all of its work is done by a computer system that requires only electronic components in the console and a single ribbon, about three inches wide, connecting it to the control panel. The wizardry of Mr. Wilcox has made all of this possible, and the technical skill of Ed Zollman has brought it to completion." Doesn't that just take a lot of the fun out of it? There's something oddly awe-inspiring about the whole electromechanical thing, if only because of the sheer size of it all. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message ... "With 48 ranks of pipes and numerous accessories to command, this console is lighter than ever before as all of its work is done by a computer system that requires only electronic components in the console and a single ribbon, about three inches wide, connecting it to the control panel. The wizardry of Mr. Wilcox has made all of this possible, and the technical skill of Ed Zollman has brought it to completion." Doesn't that just take a lot of the fun out of it? There's something oddly awe-inspiring about the whole electromechanical thing, if only because of the sheer size of it all. --scott I don't know...I kind of see it as the past meeting the present. There's still plenty of electromechanical stuff happening! I know the organists love the responsiveness of the instrument. When I get my hands back on the tapes in a week or so I'll post a tune or two to my FTP site and send you a link. Is Windows Media 9 a problem for you? Broadband? I'd sure hate to dumb it down to a tiny file. Charlie |
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"Charles Tomaras" wrote in message
... Looking for ideas and suggestions. I've done a couple of gratis audio recordings for the Puget Sound Theater Organ Society of a unique theater organ and piano that is installed in a private home / mansion. Here is a link to information on the home and instrument: http://www.pstos.org/instruments/wa/...view-manor.htm The article says, and the pictures look like, the pipes are installed behind large glass windows. Where does the sound get out? Jerry Steiger |
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"Charles Tomaras" wrote in message
news Any sites or URL's you can recommend where "baffled" omni's are shown or discussed? The Josephson site Scott mentioned is: http://www.josephson.com/tn5.html A picture of Scott's own disk is at: http://www.techwood.org/kludge/mikes.html If you want to buy one ready-made, these folks sell one: http://www.core-sound.com/jecklin.html I though I had a link or two for building your own, but I don't seem to be able to find them now. Jerry Steiger |
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"Jerry Steiger" wrote in message ... "Charles Tomaras" wrote in message news Any sites or URL's you can recommend where "baffled" omni's are shown or discussed? The Josephson site Scott mentioned is: http://www.josephson.com/tn5.html A picture of Scott's own disk is at: http://www.techwood.org/kludge/mikes.html If you want to buy one ready-made, these folks sell one: http://www.core-sound.com/jecklin.html I though I had a link or two for building your own, but I don't seem to be able to find them now. Jerry Steiger Thanks! |
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"Jerry Steiger" wrote in message ... "Charles Tomaras" wrote in message ... Looking for ideas and suggestions. I've done a couple of gratis audio recordings for the Puget Sound Theater Organ Society of a unique theater organ and piano that is installed in a private home / mansion. Here is a link to information on the home and instrument: http://www.pstos.org/instruments/wa/...view-manor.htm The article says, and the pictures look like, the pipes are installed behind large glass windows. Where does the sound get out? Jerry Steiger Glass is really only on the bottom panes...everything else is shuttered or open. I haven't listened to many theater organs for a comparison, but this one sure sounds grand! |
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"Jerry Steiger" wrote in message ... "Charles Tomaras" wrote in message ... Looking for ideas and suggestions. I've done a couple of gratis audio recordings for the Puget Sound Theater Organ Society of a unique theater organ and piano that is installed in a private home / mansion. Here is a link to information on the home and instrument: http://www.pstos.org/instruments/wa/...view-manor.htm The article says, and the pictures look like, the pipes are installed behind large glass windows. Where does the sound get out? In the second photo, you will see the large expression shutters above the windows. And in the fifth, you can see another large shutter above the console (presumably a separate section?) |
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Hi all
Pipe organs are my main area of interest in audio and have been since the early 50's although I don't play at all, but I sure enjoy listening to a well played recital be it church, concert (the Balboa Park Austin) and theater organ. I was a member of ATOS and did some recording for friends that issued 12" LP records on the San Gabriel Civic Auditorium Wurlitzer back in the middle 70's and also at the Joe Koons Motorcycle Shop in Long Beach, CA. The Joe Koons Saturday evening organ concerts were well known to LATOS members. Many well known theater organists played the 3 manual 34 rank Wurlitzer-Welte installed in the back of the shop, sadly all gone now. The Portland (OR) area featured some great instruments and my favorite was the 47 rank Wurlitzer installed in the Organ Grinder Restaurant in South East Portland and played by my favorite theater organist, Jonas Nordwall. One of Jonas's best recordings IME is a CD produced by Organ Grinder Recordings titled "Bits, Bytes & Pipes" Volume II. Just my thoughts looking back. Anyone interested in the Joe Koons organ story I have an article written in a local Long Beach paper all about Joe and his pipe organ. Just email me and I'll send it to you. Cheers Geoley |
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[Organ Grinder Pizza, Portland, Oregon] I remember visiting that restaurant in the '70's with a guitarist friend of mine. ONE of my most memorable dining experiences , not for the pizza as much as the organ music. Quite a fun evening. WHen I lived in Salem for awhile in 1981 I never got a chance to go there again but I believe it was still going strong. Does it still exist today? Alas, no. Removed years ago and now resides in Arizona(?) somewhere. |
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I remember visiting that restaurant in the '70's with a guitarist friend of mine. ONE of my most memorable dining experiences , not for the pizza as much as the organ music. Quite a fun evening. WHen I lived in Salem for awhile in 1981 I never got a chance to go there again but I believe it was still going strong. Does it still exist today? Closed ~7 years ago. Organ parted out according to Usenet lore. :-( |
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I don't know...I kind of see it as the past meeting the present. There's still plenty of electromechanical stuff happening! I know the organists love the responsiveness of the instrument. When I get my hands back on the tapes in a week or so I'll post a tune or two to my FTP site and send you a link. Is Windows Media 9 a problem for you? Broadband? I'd sure hate to dumb it down to a tiny file. Charlie Hey Charles, please post the link for all of us! Don't worry about the size of the file. I would personally prefer an mp3 though can cope with wmv. Even those on dial-up won't complain if they love theatre organs. That Wilcox console looks fantastic and easier to play than the seven-manual monsters. The surrounding are very homely and welcoming both to play and to sit and listen. I can only imagine what it sounds like. I play the organ, although not so well. There are no excellent players in my area, so CDs are the only way for me to hear great players. -m |
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"Richard Crowley" wrote in message
... In the second photo, you will see the large expression shutters above the windows. And in the fifth, you can see another large shutter above the console (presumably a separate section?) Thanks, Richard and Charles. Pretty obvious once you take more than a passing glance at the pictures. But it's so much easier to ask you guys than to work it out myself! Jerry Steiger |
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"Charles Tomaras" wrote in
: I don't mind the high end hiss of the air supply nor the mechanical sounds of the everything else, it's more a low end rumble from the blower motors that I'm told in many installations are much further or better isolated from the performance space. I would imagine that some judicuous post eq or noise removal could go a long way towards minimizing this low end especially on more exposed passages where low end pipes are not being emphasized. Some noises give the instrument character. The rumble of the blower motors, however, is just bothersome. I use a two-pronged approach. 1) Have the performer play the lowest note the organ can produce by itself. Measure the frequency (usually 17 or 34 Hz) and cut everything below that. 2) Record the room with the organ on but silent to get a clean noise sample and use that in digital noise reduction. The smoother and quieter the sample, the more accurate the noise reduction. (quieter = no transients, no trucks or sirens outside, etc. Just the blower noise.) Shock mounts are only marginally effective at the low frequencies of the rumble. They'll help, but you'll still need to remove some racket--or live with it. Use the normal noise reduction techniques as well. Turn off the air conditioning (unless it would affect the pitch), and record during off hours with less traffic/environmental noise. |
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What about...
Moving around the auditorium to find spots where the blower rumble is at a minimum? With any luck, one or more of these places might be suitable for recording. |
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"William Sommerwerck" wrote in
: What about... Moving around the auditorium to find spots where the blower rumble is at a minimum? With any luck, one or more of these places might be suitable for recording. If the blower noise was a point source you might find a null in the room. I find that the noise is usually carried by the structure of the building which means it will be fairly even across the room. |
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"am" wrote in message ... I don't know...I kind of see it as the past meeting the present. There's still plenty of electromechanical stuff happening! I know the organists love the responsiveness of the instrument. When I get my hands back on the tapes in a week or so I'll post a tune or two to my FTP site and send you a link. Is Windows Media 9 a problem for you? Broadband? I'd sure hate to dumb it down to a tiny file. Charlie Hey Charles, please post the link for all of us! Will do, but it will probably be a week or so more before I get to it. I just have the multi-track tapes (DAT's went with the video) and I've got a week long gig that will take up all my time for a while. |
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"Carey Carlan" wrote in message . 206... "Charles Tomaras" wrote in : I don't mind the high end hiss of the air supply nor the mechanical sounds of the everything else, it's more a low end rumble from the blower motors that I'm told in many installations are much further or better isolated from the performance space. I would imagine that some judicuous post eq or noise removal could go a long way towards minimizing this low end especially on more exposed passages where low end pipes are not being emphasized. Some noises give the instrument character. The rumble of the blower motors, however, is just bothersome. I use a two-pronged approach. 1) Have the performer play the lowest note the organ can produce by itself. Measure the frequency (usually 17 or 34 Hz) and cut everything below that. 2) Record the room with the organ on but silent to get a clean noise sample and use that in digital noise reduction. The smoother and quieter the sample, the more accurate the noise reduction. (quieter = no transients, no trucks or sirens outside, etc. Just the blower noise.) Shock mounts are only marginally effective at the low frequencies of the rumble. They'll help, but you'll still need to remove some racket--or live with it. Use the normal noise reduction techniques as well. Turn off the air conditioning (unless it would affect the pitch), and record during off hours with less traffic/environmental noise. Great ideas...thanks. |
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Will do, but it will probably be a week or so more before I get to it. I
just have the multi-track tapes (DAT's went with the video) and I've got a week long gig that will take up all my time for a while. No worries. I can wait. |
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Charles Tomaras wrote:
I haven't listened to many theater organs for a comparison, but this one sure sounds grand! Do go see & hear the one at the Paramount in downtown Seattle sometime. |
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"Kurt Albershardt" wrote in message ... Charles Tomaras wrote: I haven't listened to many theater organs for a comparison, but this one sure sounds grand! Do go see & hear the one at the Paramount in downtown Seattle sometime. Yes, I need to make it to one of the Silent Sunday movie series they put on. The organist from the Silent Sundays was at the concert in Gig Harbor I recorded. |
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Charles Tomaras wrote:
Do go see & hear the one at the Paramount in downtown Seattle sometime. Yes, I need to make it to one of the Silent Sunday movie series they put on. The organist from the Silent Sundays was at the concert in Gig Harbor I recorded. Saw "The Gold Rush" there last year and had a great time, really a wonderful evening. |
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Charles Tomaras wrote: Should I be considering multiple mics for an instrument like this with possibly omnis or wide cardiods near various sections of the instrument as there are trumpets, horns, drums and all manner of different contraptions? I'd love to hear from those of you with experience in recording theater organs. I'd stay away from spot miking and would capture the sound out in the hall. You might try a binaural recording and then playback over headphones. For stereo playback, try a Jecklin or Schneider Disk with a pair of fine omnis. Position them where you like the balance of sound. Or, consider Ray Kimber's IsoMike setup. -- Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912 |
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Theater Organ Recording
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Message-ID: X-Trace: bhmkggakljkaanefdbdpiflmbcekedmfhojhikkbagflhcbohc dpilbgoabjhejddillphahkfobdkeoenbnioaappeeookkifno efgjpidipfedbgjhmnnmpgicogmakggcecbhimnhdhdmclmjjc dmmjenhgch NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 14:03:34 EST Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 19:03:34 GMT Xref: intern1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com rec.audio.pro:1007542 On 2003-11-14 said: I remember visiting that restaurant in the '70's with a guitarist friend of mine. ONE of my most memorable dining experiences , snip WHen I lived in Salem for awhile in 1981 I never got a chance to go there again but I believe it was still going strong. Does it still exist today? Closed ~7 years ago. Organ parted out according to Usenet lore. :-( THat's too bad, but I'm sorry I never got back there in '81 when I lived in Salem. A fun evening and a neat instrument to listen to. Would have liked to have gotten a chance to play it. rEgards, Richard Webb Electric Spider Productions REplace anything before the @ symbol with elspider for real email -- |
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