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Stereo Amp to drive Phones?
Or you can put a 70-volt transformer across the amp's output for each pair of
headphones, setting up a mini-70v system. Now you have very low Z and reduced power available to each pair, and probably lots left over to drive a speaker which is maybe also on a 70v transformer but on a higher power tap. Arny Krueger wrote: How about trying a little engineering? Based on my studies for testing headphone amplifiers, I think it's safe to say that the worst case impedance of a pair of headphones is usually about 16 ohms. There are exceptions, but they are relatively rare. The impedance of a pair of headphones can range up into the 300-600 ohm range. Based on examination of a range of audio gear, I can say that a very common driving impedance for headphone jacks driven by dedicated amplifiers is about 16 ohms. Therefore, the value of the shunt resistor of our resistive voltage divider should probably be in the 16 -32 ohm range. 16 ohms if the series resistor is large, and more like 32 ohms if the series resistor is small. The power sensitivity of headphones varies greatly, but the voltage sensitivity is surprisingly similar. Typically 1 volt will drive headphones to a comfortable level, but some place around 5 volts ears and headphones can be damaged. I might suggest 2 volts as a reasonable target level. The operational voltage at the output of a power amp will vary with the efficiency of the speakers that are typically used with it, and the preferences of the listeners. A "small" 50 watt amp puts out about 20 volts at clipping, while a "large" 800 watt amp puts out 80 volts at clipping. The size of the series resistor should probably range from 16 ohms for a small amp and efficient speakers, to 300 ohms for a large amp and inefficient speakers. Thus, a headphone attenuator should probably be composed of an approximate 16-32 ohm resistor in parallel with the headphones, and a series resistor ranging from 32 to 300 ohms running to the amplifier output. Higher valued series resistors are indicated for use with high powered amps. YMMV. |
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Stereo Amp to drive Phones?
Michael Putrino wrote:
I've driven many AKG 600-ohm headphones with a 50 watt stereo transistor power amp with no resistor necessary. Just added a parallel break-out box into which the headphones plugged. The resistor is there in case something bad happens, like a headphone is shorted or left plugged in halfway so the two amp outputs are shorted together. You don't need it, but it is a good idea to have it there for safety. I would not do this with low-ohm headphones, or with a tube amp with an output transformer. You can make it work with a tube amp if you are careful about loading, or you use an output transformer designed to deal with sloppy loading (like the Bogen Challengers use... most of the crappy tube amps with 70V output taps will deal with varying loads well enough because they have to when driving 70V systems). --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Stereo Amp to drive Phones?
Thanks for the replies! This project will involve a 60-watt Adcom driving
AKG 240s and Fostex T20s. I could just upgrade my current headphone amp ( a PAIA kit), but I hate to spend the dough when I have spare amps lying around (and the time to do this project). I think the idea of a 70v system is good, but probably too expensive. Using resistors (that I probably have in a parts drawer) sounds like the way to go! I just need to remember how to wire a headphone jack -- one of those things that I've learned and forgotten four or five times... I appreciate the expertise! |
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Stereo Amp to drive Phones?
"Fader" wrote in message .. . Thanks for the replies! This project will involve a 60-watt Adcom driving AKG 240s and Fostex T20s. I could just upgrade my current headphone amp ( a PAIA kit), but I hate to spend the dough when I have spare amps lying around (and the time to do this project). I think the idea of a 70v system is good, but probably too expensive. Using resistors (that I probably have in a parts drawer) sounds like the way to go! I just need to remember how to wire a headphone jack -- one of those things that I've learned and forgotten four or five times... Tip is left. Ring is right. You can figure out what sleeve is all on your own.... Kendall |
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Stereo Amp to drive Phones?
I believe some phone jacks (including some that I have) actually have *four*
solder points to allow a momentary break of the signal to a speaker when the phones are inserted. Maybe this is why I've had a mental block that headphone jacks were difficult... Anyway, thanks, and I'll post the results of my soldering soon! |
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Stereo Amp to drive Phones?
Tip is left. Ring is right.
Ever notice that Spock's wife was T'pring? I often wondered if she worked in the Vulcan telecom industry. |
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Stereo Amp to drive Phones?
Also, what about running the headphone signal on xlr? (And I mean the
amplified speaker output). Didn't a Furman headphone amp do that and use passive boxes that attached to mic stands? I thought it did -- and it worked! It would definitely be easier to wire breakout boxes and interconnect them with xlr cable. |
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Stereo Amp to drive Phones?
"Fader" wrote in message ...
Does anyone know how to use a regular stereo amp (D-150, for instance) to drive headphones rather than speakers? I heard of this being done a long time ago, but can't remember. Thanks! Fader, I have a .jpg schematic of a headphone distribution circuit that I built to use with a Samson Servo 120 power amp. It works, sounds fine with my AKG K240s. If you want the schematic, email me privately. DaveT |
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Stereo Amp to drive Phones?
The resistor is there in case something bad happens, like a headphone is
shorted or left plugged in halfway so the two amp outputs are shorted together. You don't need it, but it is a good idea to have it there for safety. --scott I used this for 10 years without resistors...plugging and unplugging headphones many many times...and yes, somtimes left half-way inserted by accident. Most transistor power amps today (and for many years in the past as well) have short-circuit protection, and most of the time, headphones do not short when going bad...that I'm aware of; usually they have a break somewhere in their cable. He can use the resistors if he likes, but I still think they are not necessary. By the way, the amp was an old 50 watt per channel Kustom amp we had doing nothing else, so it came in handy for this purpose. Mike Putrino |
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