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Lukas
 
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I want to find out more about ortofon turntable arms. They
don't produce them anymore, and Ortofon company in Denmark doesn't
even have any info about them neither spare parts for them.

I have one and it needs some restoration so any help in identyfiing
the model as well as obtaining spares would be highly appreciated.

I also look for working wire recorder so if you have one to sell or
trade just drop me a line.

Thanks

Lukas
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On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:41:36 -0500, Kalman Rubinson
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Who knows? You might but there's no connection. B&O and Ortofon are
different companies.


David Hafler/ Dynaco imported both in the US in the old days.

To identify the model, the OP should post a photograph.


Yup.

Chris Hornbeck
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Kalman Rubinson
 
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On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 00:59:03 GMT, Chris Hornbeck
wrote:

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:41:36 -0500, Kalman Rubinson
wrote:

Who knows? You might but there's no connection. B&O and Ortofon are
different companies.


David Hafler/ Dynaco imported both in the US in the old days.


Really? I am surprised. In the early days, Ortofon was imported
under the ESL brand name which, iirc, was located in NY. I'd like to
see some info on the Hafler link.

Kal


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Lukas wrote:

I want to find out more about ortofon turntable arms. They don't
produce them anymore, and Ortofon company in Denmark doesn't even have
any info about them neither spare parts for them.

I have one and it needs some restoration


Mine too - lol. The 12" beast. RMG 309 ? Came out of 'Star Sound
Studios' London. The AS 212 was a nice arm. Wish I had bought one.

so any help in identyfiing the model as well as obtaining spares would
be highly appreciated.

I also look for working wire recorder so if you have one to sell or
trade just drop me a line.


You collect antique gear ?


Graham

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Raymond Peter Thomas
 
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Cutting to the chase somewhat, are you sure you really want to play your
valued records using an arm which typically required a 'downforce' on the
cartridge/stylus of 3-5 grams ? I don't know how records of that era
survived such treatment, it's not like they had specialized stylus profiles
or anything to reduce the psi on the groove. I believe the Ortofon cartridge
of that era was quite revered, a bit like the Decca London. Might pay to
post your inquiry to the hifi fraternity newsgroups, such as aus.hi-fi (a
quite good source of info)
Ray
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On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 00:59:03 GMT, Chris Hornbeck
wrote:

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:41:36 -0500, Kalman Rubinson
wrote:

Who knows? You might but there's no connection. B&O and Ortofon are
different companies.


David Hafler/ Dynaco imported both in the US in the old days.


Really? I am surprised. In the early days, Ortofon was imported
under the ESL brand name which, iirc, was located in NY. I'd like to
see some info on the Hafler link.

Kal



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Raymond Peter Thomas wrote:

Cutting to the chase somewhat, are you sure you really want to play your
valued records using an arm which typically required a 'downforce' on the
cartridge/stylus of 3-5 grams ?


Not so.

The RMG 309 has a beautifully calibrated rotatable couterbalance calibrated 0-5
in 1 gram increments. Being infinitely adjustable, select your own tracking
force, normally 1.5 - 2 in my case with a Shure or Stanton.

I don't know how records of that era survived such treatment, it's not like
they had specialized stylus profiles or anything to reduce the psi on the
groove. I believe the Ortofon cartridge of that era was quite revered,


Uhuh. I must somewhere have the one that came with the arm but it was only mono
IIRC. One of the first moving coils that I know of.

a bit like the Decca London. Might pay to post your inquiry to the hifi
fraternity newsgroups, such as aus.hi-fi (a quite good source of info)


Graham


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Oh, you're right..and obviously writing of a much more recent model. I was
thinking of an early-mid 1960's model...perhaps the Ortofon SPU ? Does that
ring bells for anyone?
Ray
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"Pooh Bear" wrote in message
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Raymond Peter Thomas wrote:

Cutting to the chase somewhat, are you sure you really want to play your
valued records using an arm which typically required a 'downforce' on

the
cartridge/stylus of 3-5 grams ?


Not so.

The RMG 309 has a beautifully calibrated rotatable couterbalance

calibrated 0-5
in 1 gram increments. Being infinitely adjustable, select your own

tracking
force, normally 1.5 - 2 in my case with a Shure or Stanton.

I don't know how records of that era survived such treatment, it's not

like
they had specialized stylus profiles or anything to reduce the psi on

the
groove. I believe the Ortofon cartridge of that era was quite revered,


Uhuh. I must somewhere have the one that came with the arm but it was only

mono
IIRC. One of the first moving coils that I know of.

a bit like the Decca London. Might pay to post your inquiry to the hifi
fraternity newsgroups, such as aus.hi-fi (a quite good source of info)


Graham




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On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 01:50:09 +1030, "Raymond Peter Thomas"
wrote:

Oh, you're right..and obviously writing of a much more recent model. I was
thinking of an early-mid 1960's model...perhaps the Ortofon SPU ? Does that
ring bells for anyone?


Yup and they still come up on eBay these days.

Kal
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"Pooh Bear" wrote in message
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Lukas wrote:

I want to find out more about ortofon turntable arms. They don't
produce them anymore, and Ortofon company in Denmark doesn't even have
any info about them neither spare parts for them.

I have one and it needs some restoration


Mine too - lol. The 12" beast. RMG 309 ? Came out of 'Star Sound
Studios' London. The AS 212 was a nice arm. Wish I had bought one.

so any help in identyfiing the model as well as obtaining spares would
be highly appreciated.

I also look for working wire recorder so if you have one to sell or
trade just drop me a line.


You collect antique gear ?


Graham

I have a Thorens 125 with a Ortofon RS-212 arm fitted with Shure Type V-15
cartridge that tracks at 1 to 1.5 grams with no problems.For more info on
Ortofon arms check out the Vinyl Asylum forum.

Geoley


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"Raymond Peter Thomas" wrote in message ...
Oh, you're right..and obviously writing of a much more recent model. I was
thinking of an early-mid 1960's model...perhaps the Ortofon SPU ? Does that
ring bells for anyone?
Ray



Ortofon makes moving coil cartridges from mid 40 I think.
The SPU range of MC pick-ups is still produced including stereo,
mono and 78rpm type stylus. More info at www.Ortofon.dk
There are two basic types of SPU: A and GM.
The cartridge is mounted in its oryginal ortofon headshell. A type is
samaller tham GM.
Ortofon tonearms vary in lenght - there are arms for SPU A and SPU GM
pickups.
Consequently tonearm RMA 309 fits SPU A type cartridge while RMG 309
fits SPU GM.
Tracking force can be adjusted (depending of the arm) from 0 to 10g.

Lukas
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Pooh Bear wrote in message ...
Lukas wrote:

I want to find out more about ortofon turntable arms. They don't
produce them anymore, and Ortofon company in Denmark doesn't even have
any info about them neither spare parts for them.

I have one and it needs some restoration


Mine too - lol. The 12" beast. RMG 309 ? Came out of 'Star Sound
Studios' London. The AS 212 was a nice arm. Wish I had bought one.

so any help in identyfiing the model as well as obtaining spares would
be highly appreciated.

I also look for working wire recorder so if you have one to sell or
trade just drop me a line.


You collect antique gear ?


Not exactly. I am interested in proffesional range of turntables,
cartridges, tonearms and other vinyl playback related items. But
rather for using those items than collecting them. I simply like to
hear them play.

I mentioned wire recorder as it is needed to transfer some old
recordings (or maybe finding only that they are gone) to more modern
media like CD.

Lukas
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Lukas wrote:

I mentioned wire recorder as it is needed to transfer some old
recordings (or maybe finding only that they are gone) to more modern
media like CD.


The problem is that there is no one wire recorder standard...they all
had different speeds, speed rate changes, diameters and levels. So if
you have a Minifon wire you can't play it back on a Webster Chicago
machine. You need to know what it was made on.
--scott

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Lukas wrote:

I may send photos as soon as I make some to somebody who is willing to
undertake a job of identyfiing.


The way to do it is to put them on your website and post a link. A
website for that purpose can be very simple and just contain the
image(s), possibly even with no html required (depends on the webserver
configuration ...).

Lukas



Kind regards

Peter Larsen

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Edi Zubovic wrote in message . ..
On 30 Oct 2003 14:38:28 -0800, (Lukas) wrote:


I know that early EMT broadcast turntables were delivered with Ortofon
tonearms and cartridges. The EMT OFS series cartridges were also
manufactured by Ortofon. There is an excellent Italian site about EMT:

http://www.stefanopasini.it/EMT%2095...dex%20page.htm


I know about it. I have early EMT OFS 25 and it is basically the same
that Ortofon SPU. The only difference is the headshell, and connector.
As far as I know they were produced by Ortofon for EMT.


and here are some information about Thorens BTD 12S and EMT 928
tonearms (which look the same at first sight):

http://www.stefanopasini.it/Thorens%...0EMT%20929.htm

I know Stefano pages, but thanks anyway.

Lukas


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You may find pictures at:

http://republika.pl/tonearm

Lukas
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(Lukas) said:

I want to find out more about ortofon turntable arms. They
don't produce them anymore, and Ortofon company in Denmark doesn't
even have any info about them neither spare parts for them.

I have one and it needs some restoration so any help in identyfiing
the model as well as obtaining spares would be highly appreciated.


If you can send me a picture of it, I might be able to identify it and
get some spare parts for you.
As I'm located in the Netherlands, it's still relatively easy to get
parts overhere.
If yours is an Orthophon 212, I might have some spare parts lying
around

I also look for working wire recorder so if you have one to sell or
trade just drop me a line.


On our local Internet marketplaces, every now and then a wire recorder
is advertised.
Going prices are from some Euro 200 to infinity.
Count in some shipping to your country, which is Poland if I'm not
mistaking?
If you like, I can try to get hold of one here.
Remember that most gear selling here is 220V/50 Hz, so you'll probably
need a transformer and, in some instances, when an asyncrhonous motor
is used, a frequency convertor annex AC power amplifier to run the
motor if you're on 60 Hz.
Changing motor pulleys doesn't always work since some gear is driven
directly from the motor axle via an interchange wheel, the diameter of
which doesn't have influence on the wire speed.

BTW; I'm off to Germany next week without Usenet and e-mail access, so
don't be offended if it takes till after next week to get an answer
from me.

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