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Help w/ star grounding (50Hz hum problem)!
First a recap of my previous post: I have a mackie 1402, and a delta1010.
When the computer is turned on, and a channel insert from the mackie goes to a delta input, there is a 50Hz hum at the delta input (which is preventing me from recording!). If I remove the cable from the channel insert (happens regardless of cables - balanced, unbalanced and happens regardless of whether or not there is an input connected to the mackie). Sometimes after an hour or so, this 50Hz hum will go away at the delta input. For more info as well as pictures showing the delta signal levels and spectral peaks see this link www.guitar-dreams.com/misc/deltaproblem.html Basically there seems to be 2 problems. For a year, I have been plugging my US delta power adapter into a step down xformer (I am living in Germany). Now upon powering up the computer, the delta has full scale signal levels across all channels regrdless if anything is plugged into it (and regardless of motherboard, etc,etc). I think this 50Hz has caused too much heat to dissipate in the adapter and things have gone awry. So the ground hum that occurs when something from the mixer is plugged in to the delta is either a separate problem or is related to the first problem (again see the above link for more info). I have read the FAQ. It wasn't very helpful. I am not a technician and the stuff in that FAQ seems geared in that way. I am pretty visual, so when the FAQ starts talking about star grounding I can't see how to physically do it. I just know what in principle needs to be done. So if somenoe can give a clearer description or point me to another resource that would be great! I am a guitarist first and a sound engineer second (i.e. I am my own sound guy). Give me a guitar and I can work my magic with it, but give me a bunch of cables and tell me to implement a star ground, well, I am lost... regards, brian www.guitar-dreams.com |
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Help w/ star grounding (50Hz hum problem)!
Brian Huether wrote: First a recap of my previous post: I have a mackie 1402, and a delta1010. When the computer is turned on, and a channel insert from the mackie goes to a delta input, there is a 50Hz hum at the delta input (which is preventing me from recording!). If I remove the cable from the channel insert (happens regardless of cables - balanced, unbalanced and happens regardless of whether or not there is an input connected to the mackie). Sometimes after an hour or so, this 50Hz hum will go away at the delta input. For more info as well as pictures showing the delta signal levels and spectral peaks see this link www.guitar-dreams.com/misc/deltaproblem.html Basically there seems to be 2 problems. For a year, I have been plugging my US delta power adapter into a step down xformer (I am living in Germany). Now upon powering up the computer, the delta has full scale signal levels across all channels regrdless if anything is plugged into it (and regardless of motherboard, etc,etc). I think this 50Hz has caused too much heat to dissipate in the adapter and things have gone awry. So the ground hum that occurs when something from the mixer is plugged in to the delta is either a separate problem or is related to the first problem (again see the above link for more info). I have read the FAQ. It wasn't very helpful. I am not a technician and the stuff in that FAQ seems geared in that way. I am pretty visual, so when the FAQ starts talking about star grounding I can't see how to physically do it. I just know what in principle needs to be done. So if somenoe can give a clearer description or point me to another resource that would be great! I am a guitarist first and a sound engineer second (i.e. I am my own sound guy). Give me a guitar and I can work my magic with it, but give me a bunch of cables and tell me to implement a star ground, well, I am lost... regards, brian www.guitar-dreams.com All star grounding means is that all the ground wires in the system go to the same common grounding point, and there is only one electrical path to the common ground point for each piece of gear or cable. This is easier said than done. I'd first go and spring for a new local power supply for your computer, a power supply that will operate on your local 50 hz power. These are available in computer supply stores, and take only a few minutes with a screwdriver to replace. Try things again. --Dale |
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Help w/ star grounding (50Hz hum problem)!
My computer power supply does plug into the local power outlet. It is
switchable from 115V to 220V and I am sure internally it is fine with 50 or 60Hz. But do you really think that could be an issue? -brian "Dale Farmer" wrote in message ... Brian Huether wrote: First a recap of my previous post: I have a mackie 1402, and a delta1010. When the computer is turned on, and a channel insert from the mackie goes to a delta input, there is a 50Hz hum at the delta input (which is preventing me from recording!). If I remove the cable from the channel insert (happens regardless of cables - balanced, unbalanced and happens regardless of whether or not there is an input connected to the mackie). Sometimes after an hour or so, this 50Hz hum will go away at the delta input. For more info as well as pictures showing the delta signal levels and spectral peaks see this link www.guitar-dreams.com/misc/deltaproblem.html Basically there seems to be 2 problems. For a year, I have been plugging my US delta power adapter into a step down xformer (I am living in Germany). Now upon powering up the computer, the delta has full scale signal levels across all channels regrdless if anything is plugged into it (and regardless of motherboard, etc,etc). I think this 50Hz has caused too much heat to dissipate in the adapter and things have gone awry. So the ground hum that occurs when something from the mixer is plugged in to the delta is either a separate problem or is related to the first problem (again see the above link for more info). I have read the FAQ. It wasn't very helpful. I am not a technician and the stuff in that FAQ seems geared in that way. I am pretty visual, so when the FAQ starts talking about star grounding I can't see how to physically do it. I just know what in principle needs to be done. So if somenoe can give a clearer description or point me to another resource that would be great! I am a guitarist first and a sound engineer second (i.e. I am my own sound guy). Give me a guitar and I can work my magic with it, but give me a bunch of cables and tell me to implement a star ground, well, I am lost... regards, brian www.guitar-dreams.com All star grounding means is that all the ground wires in the system go to the same common grounding point, and there is only one electrical path to the common ground point for each piece of gear or cable. This is easier said than done. I'd first go and spring for a new local power supply for your computer, a power supply that will operate on your local 50 hz power. These are available in computer supply stores, and take only a few minutes with a screwdriver to replace. Try things again. --Dale |
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Help w/ star grounding (50Hz hum problem)!
Perhaps I misinterpreted. What do you have plugged into " Delta Power
Adapter." ? Get the euro power supply for those devices. --Dale Brian Huether wrote: My computer power supply does plug into the local power outlet. It is switchable from 115V to 220V and I am sure internally it is fine with 50 or 60Hz. But do you really think that could be an issue? -brian "Dale Farmer" wrote in message ... Brian Huether wrote: First a recap of my previous post: I have a mackie 1402, and a delta1010. When the computer is turned on, and a channel insert from the mackie goes to a delta input, there is a 50Hz hum at the delta input (which is preventing me from recording!). If I remove the cable from the channel insert (happens regardless of cables - balanced, unbalanced and happens regardless of whether or not there is an input connected to the mackie). Sometimes after an hour or so, this 50Hz hum will go away at the delta input. For more info as well as pictures showing the delta signal levels and spectral peaks see this link www.guitar-dreams.com/misc/deltaproblem.html Basically there seems to be 2 problems. For a year, I have been plugging my US delta power adapter into a step down xformer (I am living in Germany). Now upon powering up the computer, the delta has full scale signal levels across all channels regrdless if anything is plugged into it (and regardless of motherboard, etc,etc). I think this 50Hz has caused too much heat to dissipate in the adapter and things have gone awry. So the ground hum that occurs when something from the mixer is plugged in to the delta is either a separate problem or is related to the first problem (again see the above link for more info). I have read the FAQ. It wasn't very helpful. I am not a technician and the stuff in that FAQ seems geared in that way. I am pretty visual, so when the FAQ starts talking about star grounding I can't see how to physically do it. I just know what in principle needs to be done. So if somenoe can give a clearer description or point me to another resource that would be great! I am a guitarist first and a sound engineer second (i.e. I am my own sound guy). Give me a guitar and I can work my magic with it, but give me a bunch of cables and tell me to implement a star ground, well, I am lost... regards, brian www.guitar-dreams.com All star grounding means is that all the ground wires in the system go to the same common grounding point, and there is only one electrical path to the common ground point for each piece of gear or cable. This is easier said than done. I'd first go and spring for a new local power supply for your computer, a power supply that will operate on your local 50 hz power. These are available in computer supply stores, and take only a few minutes with a screwdriver to replace. Try things again. --Dale |
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Help w/ star grounding (50Hz hum problem)!
For the delta I do not have the euro adapter but I am ordering it today...
-brian "Dale Farmer" wrote in message ... Perhaps I misinterpreted. What do you have plugged into " Delta Power Adapter." ? Get the euro power supply for those devices. --Dale Brian Huether wrote: My computer power supply does plug into the local power outlet. It is switchable from 115V to 220V and I am sure internally it is fine with 50 or 60Hz. But do you really think that could be an issue? -brian "Dale Farmer" wrote in message ... Brian Huether wrote: First a recap of my previous post: I have a mackie 1402, and a delta1010. When the computer is turned on, and a channel insert from the mackie goes to a delta input, there is a 50Hz hum at the delta input (which is preventing me from recording!). If I remove the cable from the channel insert (happens regardless of cables - balanced, unbalanced and happens regardless of whether or not there is an input connected to the mackie). Sometimes after an hour or so, this 50Hz hum will go away at the delta input. For more info as well as pictures showing the delta signal levels and spectral peaks see this link www.guitar-dreams.com/misc/deltaproblem.html Basically there seems to be 2 problems. For a year, I have been plugging my US delta power adapter into a step down xformer (I am living in Germany). Now upon powering up the computer, the delta has full scale signal levels across all channels regrdless if anything is plugged into it (and regardless of motherboard, etc,etc). I think this 50Hz has caused too much heat to dissipate in the adapter and things have gone awry. So the ground hum that occurs when something from the mixer is plugged in to the delta is either a separate problem or is related to the first problem (again see the above link for more info). I have read the FAQ. It wasn't very helpful. I am not a technician and the stuff in that FAQ seems geared in that way. I am pretty visual, so when the FAQ starts talking about star grounding I can't see how to physically do it. I just know what in principle needs to be done. So if somenoe can give a clearer description or point me to another resource that would be great! I am a guitarist first and a sound engineer second (i.e. I am my own sound guy). Give me a guitar and I can work my magic with it, but give me a bunch of cables and tell me to implement a star ground, well, I am lost... regards, brian www.guitar-dreams.com All star grounding means is that all the ground wires in the system go to the same common grounding point, and there is only one electrical path to the common ground point for each piece of gear or cable. This is easier said than done. I'd first go and spring for a new local power supply for your computer, a power supply that will operate on your local 50 hz power. These are available in computer supply stores, and take only a few minutes with a screwdriver to replace. Try things again. --Dale |
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Help w/ star grounding (50Hz hum problem)!
Based on this new description of your problem, I think that your
Delta1010 is broken and needs to be repaired or replaced. If I understand what you're saying, it's not an interface problem or a ground problem. It's just broken. ulysses In article , Brian Huether wrote: First a recap of my previous post: I have a mackie 1402, and a delta1010. When the computer is turned on, and a channel insert from the mackie goes to a delta input, there is a 50Hz hum at the delta input (which is preventing me from recording!). If I remove the cable from the channel insert (happens regardless of cables - balanced, unbalanced and happens regardless of whether or not there is an input connected to the mackie). Sometimes after an hour or so, this 50Hz hum will go away at the delta input. For more info as well as pictures showing the delta signal levels and spectral peaks see this link www.guitar-dreams.com/misc/deltaproblem.html Basically there seems to be 2 problems. For a year, I have been plugging my US delta power adapter into a step down xformer (I am living in Germany). Now upon powering up the computer, the delta has full scale signal levels across all channels regrdless if anything is plugged into it (and regardless of motherboard, etc,etc). I think this 50Hz has caused too much heat to dissipate in the adapter and things have gone awry. So the ground hum that occurs when something from the mixer is plugged in to the delta is either a separate problem or is related to the first problem (again see the above link for more info). I have read the FAQ. It wasn't very helpful. I am not a technician and the stuff in that FAQ seems geared in that way. I am pretty visual, so when the FAQ starts talking about star grounding I can't see how to physically do it. I just know what in principle needs to be done. So if somenoe can give a clearer description or point me to another resource that would be great! I am a guitarist first and a sound engineer second (i.e. I am my own sound guy). Give me a guitar and I can work my magic with it, but give me a bunch of cables and tell me to implement a star ground, well, I am lost... regards, brian www.guitar-dreams.com |
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