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Web/Internet Radio station problem(s)
I have no experience with creating/running streaming radio stations.
I friend has a web radio station. It has been on the air 24/7 for several years. He's been having random problems with dropouts and something that seem to me like some sort of digital feedback. ~~ The dropouts seem to me to be a buffering issue. I've found that most of the time if I cut out the dead air no data seems to be lost. I'm thinking this may be a channel capacity problem with his ISP. ~~ I don't have any idea what's causing the "digital feedback" issue. Here's a link to a clip of the feedback/echo/reverb thing. https://www.dropbox.com/s/7fsetlps5c...litch%2000.wav In this case the "feedback" lasted about two and half minutes. I've included the onset, the end, and my friend's apology to the audience. ~~ ~~ Can anyone here provide any insight into potential causes and solutions? -- == Later... Ron Capik -- |
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On Sunday, 11 November 2018 14:13:54 UTC+11, Ron C wrote:
I have no experience with creating/running streaming radio stations. I friend has a web radio station. It has been on the air 24/7 for several years. He's been having random problems with dropouts and something that seem to me like some sort of digital feedback. ~~ The dropouts seem to me to be a buffering issue. I've found that most of the time if I cut out the dead air no data seems to be lost. I'm thinking this may be a channel capacity problem with his ISP. ~~ I don't have any idea what's causing the "digital feedback" issue. Here's a link to a clip of the feedback/echo/reverb thing. https://www.dropbox.com/s/7fsetlps5c...litch%2000.wav In this case the "feedback" lasted about two and half minutes. I've included the onset, the end, and my friend's apology to the audience.. ~~ ~~ Can anyone here provide any insight into potential causes and solutions? -- == Later... Ron Capik -- Sounds to me like part of the same bandwidth issue. After a dropout or series of them, the music gets time-crunched (effectively sped up without altering pitch) to get back into sync with real time. Same as happens on a Skype call with slow internet. Could the ISP be throttling the speed? |
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On Sunday, 11 November 2018 14:13:54 UTC+11, Ron C wrote:
I have no experience with creating/running streaming radio stations. I friend has a web radio station. It has been on the air 24/7 for several years. He's been having random problems with dropouts and something that seem to me like some sort of digital feedback. ~~ The dropouts seem to me to be a buffering issue. I've found that most of the time if I cut out the dead air no data seems to be lost. I'm thinking this may be a channel capacity problem with his ISP. ~~ I don't have any idea what's causing the "digital feedback" issue. Here's a link to a clip of the feedback/echo/reverb thing. https://www.dropbox.com/s/7fsetlps5c...litch%2000.wav In this case the "feedback" lasted about two and half minutes. I've included the onset, the end, and my friend's apology to the audience.. ~~ ~~ Can anyone here provide any insight into potential causes and solutions? -- == Later... Ron Capik -- Sounds to me like part of the same bandwidth issue. After a dropout or series of them, the music gets time-crunched (sped up without altering pitch by chopping bits out) to get back into sync with real time. Same as happens on a Skype call with slow internet. Could the ISP be throttling the speed? |
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On 21/11/2018 9:00 PM, SpiralEscalator wrote:
On Sunday, 11 November 2018 14:13:54 UTC+11, Ron C wrote: I have no experience with creating/running streaming radio stations. I friend has a web radio station. It has been on the air 24/7 for several years. He's been having random problems with dropouts and something that seem to me like some sort of digital feedback. ~~ The dropouts seem to me to be a buffering issue. I've found that most of the time if I cut out the dead air no data seems to be lost. I'm thinking this may be a channel capacity problem with his ISP. ~~ I don't have any idea what's causing the "digital feedback" issue. Here's a link to a clip of the feedback/echo/reverb thing. https://www.dropbox.com/s/7fsetlps5c...litch%2000.wav In this case the "feedback" lasted about two and half minutes. I've included the onset, the end, and my friend's apology to the audience. ~~ ~~ Can anyone here provide any insight into potential causes and solutions? -- == Later... Ron Capik -- Sounds to me like part of the same bandwidth issue. After a dropout or series of them, the music gets time-crunched (sped up without altering pitch by chopping bits out) to get back into sync with real time. Same as happens on a Skype call with slow internet. Could the ISP be throttling the speed? Too many NetFlix users in his area. geoff |
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On 11/21/2018 2:35 PM, geoff wrote:
On 21/11/2018 9:00 PM, SpiralEscalator wrote: On Sunday, 11 November 2018 14:13:54 UTC+11, Ron C* wrote: I have no experience with creating/running streaming radio stations. I friend has a web radio station. It has been on the air 24/7 for several years. He's been having random problems with dropouts and something that seem to me like some sort of digital feedback. ~~ The dropouts seem to me to be a buffering issue. I've found that most of the time if I cut out the dead air no data seems to be lost. I'm thinking this may be a channel capacity problem with his ISP. ~~ I don't have any idea what's causing the "digital feedback" issue. Here's a link to a clip of the feedback/echo/reverb thing. https://www.dropbox.com/s/7fsetlps5c...litch%2000.wav In this case the "feedback" lasted about two and half minutes. I've included the onset, the end, and my friend's apology to the audience. ~~ ~~ Can anyone here provide any insight into potential causes and solutions? -- == Later... Ron Capik -- Sounds to me like part of the same bandwidth issue. After a dropout or series of them, the music gets time-crunched (sped up without altering pitch by chopping bits out) to get back into sync with real time. Same as happens on a Skype call with slow internet. Could the ISP be throttling the speed? Too many NetFlix users in his area. geoff A friend from Bell Labs sent me this suggestion: ~~ Could "buffer bloat" be the culprit? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bufferbloat. ~~ I can see how that applies to dropouts or stutter but don't quite understand the echo. Anyway, I agree that it's likely related to an upload overload with his ISP, and if so there's little he can do to address the problem. :-( -- == Later.... Ron Capik -- |
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On Thursday, November 22, 2018 at 1:19:53 PM UTC+11, Ron C wrote:
On 11/21/2018 2:35 PM, geoff wrote: On 21/11/2018 9:00 PM, SpiralEscalator wrote: On Sunday, 11 November 2018 14:13:54 UTC+11, Ron CĀ* wrote: I have no experience with creating/running streaming radio stations. I friend has a web radio station. It has been on the air 24/7 for several years. He's been having random problems with dropouts and something that seem to me like some sort of digital feedback. ~~ The dropouts seem to me to be a buffering issue. I've found that most of the time if I cut out the dead air no data seems to be lost. I'm thinking this may be a channel capacity problem with his ISP. ~~ I don't have any idea what's causing the "digital feedback" issue. Here's a link to a clip of the feedback/echo/reverb thing. https://www.dropbox.com/s/7fsetlps5c...litch%2000.wav In this case the "feedback" lasted about two and half minutes. I've included the onset, the end, and my friend's apology to the audience. ~~ ~~ Can anyone here provide any insight into potential causes and solutions? -- == Later... Ron Capik -- Sounds to me like part of the same bandwidth issue. After a dropout or series of them, the music gets time-crunched (sped up without altering pitch by chopping bits out) to get back into sync with real time. Same as happens on a Skype call with slow internet. Could the ISP be throttling the speed? Too many NetFlix users in his area. geoff A friend from Bell Labs sent me this suggestion: ~~ Could "buffer bloat" be the culprit? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bufferbloat. ~~ I can see how that applies to dropouts or stutter but don't quite understand the echo. Anyway, I agree that it's likely related to an upload overload with his ISP, and if so there's little he can do to address the problem. :-( -- == Later.... Ron Capik -- I'm not hearing any echo (or feedback), just time compression artifacts |
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