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Hello Group, its been a while,
I bought a pair of Bose in ear headphones with a trrs 3.5mm Mini jack designed to use with Apple products, they sound amazing ! I would love to use them for recording headphones, I use a Focusrite 2i2 interface which has a standard 1/4 inch headphone socket, I tried using a regular 3.5mm to 1/4 stereo adapter but it didnt work correctly, I also tried a 3.5mm to mono 1/4 inch but that didnt work either, I cant find a trrs adapter, is there such a thing ? Thanks -rob

[Mike Rivers[_2_]]

On 3/31/2018 7:22 PM, wrote:
Hello Group, its been a while,
I bought a pair of Bose in ear headphones with a trrs 3.5mm Mini jack designed to use with Apple products, they sound amazing ! I would love to use them for recording headphones, I use a Focusrite 2i2 interface which has a standard 1/4 inch headphone socket, I tried using a regular 3.5mm to 1/4 stereo adapter but it didnt work correctly, I also tried a 3.5mm to mono 1/4 inch but that didnt work either, I cant find a trrs adapter, is there such a thing ? Thanks -rob


Here's my favorite, and so far, accurate reference to those pesky audio
connectors:

https://www.cablechick.com.au/blog/u...d-audio-jacks/

Tip and first (closest to the tip) ring for left and right phones is
standard, but the difference between Apple and everybody else is that
Apple uses the second ring for the ground and the sleeve for the
microphone signal. Go figure.

You might be able to find an Apple-to-OMTP (Open Mobile Terminal Plan)
adapter, probably Amazon is the best place to find it. You'll have to
work harder at it than I did. First couple of likely subjects that I
found ended up in dead web pages.

Or, if this headset is a new purchase, return it and exchange it for the
more standard version. I'm sure Bose makes one for everyone else. Or, as
a last resort, buy a 1/4" TRS phone plug, cut off the TRRS plug, and
replace it with the plug you really need. But then you won't have use of
the microphone (if there is one) if you want to use those earphones with
a phone.

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[Trevor]

On 1/04/2018 9:52 PM, Mike Rivers wrote:
On 3/31/2018 7:22 PM, wrote:
Hello Group, its been a while,
I bought a pair of Bose in ear headphones with a trrs 3.5mm Mini jack
designed to use with Apple products, they sound amazing ! I would love
to use them for recording headphones, I use a Focusrite 2i2 interface
which has a standard 1/4 inch headphone socket, I tried using a
regular 3.5mm to 1/4 stereo adapter but it didnt work correctly, I
also tried a 3.5mm to mono 1/4 inch but that didnt work either, I
cant find a trrs adapter, is there such a thing ? Thanks -rob


Here's my favorite, and so far, accurate reference to those pesky audio
connectors:

https://www.cablechick.com.au/blog/u...d-audio-jacks/

Tip and first (closest to the tip) ring for left and right phones is
standard, but the difference between Apple and everybody else is that
Apple uses the second ring for the ground and the sleeve for the
microphone signal. Go figure.

Apple always does things different so they can sell their suckers, er
customers, their own accessories, and new accessories every time they
change their (non) "standards".



You might be able to find an Apple-to-OMTP (Open Mobile Terminal Plan)
adapter, probably Amazon is the best place to find it. You'll have to
work harder at it than I did. First couple of likely subjects that I
found ended up in dead web pages.

Or, if this headset is a new purchase, return it and exchange it for the
more standard version. I'm sure Bose makes one for everyone else. Or, as
a last resort, buy a 1/4" TRS phone plug, cut off the TRRS plug, and
replace it with the plug you really need. But then you won't have use of
the microphone (if there is one) if you want to use those earphones with
a phone.

Or buy a TRRS cable socket, and a standard TRS phone plug, and make your
own adapter.

Trevor.

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Thanks Mike and Trevor, I contacted Apple and Bose and both said they dont have such an adapter. Before I attempt to make my own (may be futile) I may order this adapter that Bose suggested, only concern I have is that it doesnt specify if its an Apple or Android TRRS, if its the standard Android it may not work with my Bose made for Apple earphones. I called Bose support with this question but the guy I got didnt know. What do you think? Thanks again -Rob
https://www.cablechick.com.au/cables...o-2x-male.html

[Mike Rivers[_2_]]

On 4/2/2018 11:20 AM, wrote:

https://www.cablechick.com.au/cables...o-2x-male.html

You don't care about the microphone (if there even is one) so as long as
the headphone split has the left and right earphone common on the
sleeve, it should work. You'll need a mini TRS to 1/4" TRS adapter, but
those are all the same.

It's worth an e-mail to cablechick.com asking about the Apple
compatibility. At least they know what that means. Send them the model
number of your earphones so they can look it up.



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[Mike Rivers[_2_]]

On 4/2/2018 11:20 AM, wrote:
What do you think?

Maybe I spoke too soon. On second or third look, I saw the picture with
the connector diagrams and the ground (common) connection is on the
rearmost ring, like the Apple, but then, in the description of the
adapter, they say:

"Apple hands-free and earbud headset microphones are not compatible with
PCs or gaming consoles. Plese check for console headset compatibility
before using with PCs."

Not knowing exactly what you have, it's not really clear what that means
or if it will work for you. It's possible to wire it up so that the mic
and headphones will both have their common on the sleeve of their
respective branch plugs. Maybe they did it right, maybe not. Better ask.


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[Scott Dorsey]

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Markertek has pigtail cables with a male 3.5 TRRS connector out to various
connectors, but none with a female 3.5 TRRS.

They'd probably make you a breakout cable like that as a custom item, might
not be too expensive. You'd need to specify that you want Apple pinout though
and not either of the other two popular pinouts.

You see stuff like this online:
https://www.amazon.com/CablesOnline-.../dp/B00N03ZYUU
but with no information about which TRRS pinout it was for. So I'd stick
with a place like Markertek where you can see schematics of everything.
--scott

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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[geoff]

On 1/04/2018 11:22 AM, wrote:
Hello Group, its been a while,
I bought a pair of Bose in ear headphones with a trrs 3.5mm Mini jack designed to use with Apple products, they sound amazing ! I would love to use them for recording headphones, I use a Focusrite 2i2 interface which has a standard 1/4 inch headphone socket, I tried using a regular 3.5mm to 1/4 stereo adapter but it didnt work correctly, I also tried a 3.5mm to mono 1/4 inch but that didnt work either, I cant find a trrs adapter, is there such a thing ? Thanks -rob



You will need an adaptor that bridges the sleeve and adjacent ring.
Easiest to wire your own little cable adaptor to either bridge those
two contacts, or bring the innermost ring of the Bose TRRS to the sleeve
on the 'conventional device' side, leaving the Bose sleeve floating.

But are they really that great ? At least they are headphones that you
are very familiar with....

geoff

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Thanks Geoff, I probably wont be making my own adapter but thanks for considering all that, Im on the road and even if I wasnt I would probably mess it up and get more frustrated. The Bose earphones (or is it earbuds?) are pretty great for earphones, I like the idea of having earphones for remote recording (easier to pack away) but this adapter issue is becoming ridiculous so I may just go back to old school over ear Sony cans.

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"..just go back to old school over ear Sony cans."

over-the-ear wired cans will never be
considered "old school" - as long as
I am still drawing breath.

Wireless BT buds have their place,
in the ranks of teenagers and
commuters.

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On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 1:37:30 AM UTC-4, wrote:
"..just go back to old school over ear Sony cans."

over-the-ear wired cans will never be
considered "old school" - as long as
I am still drawing breath.

Wireless BT buds have their place,
in the ranks of teenagers and
commuters.

yeah I will second that...
one of the things i learned reading this group and found it to be very true...

High isolation headphones are important for field recording.

otherwise you can't really tell what your mics are hearing vs what is leaking in past your headphones.

mark

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Yeah you right ! I just get frustrated with cans because sometimes its uncomfortable to wear glasses or a hat, also they are bulky, I wish they had wireless ear buds that could be used as studio headphones that dont have a delay, the cable inevitably gets in the way. But Im still waiting for flying cars ....