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GregS wrote:
Nonpolar caps are made from polar caps. Just put two back to back, pos together. Divide the individual capacitance rating by 2, and use the voltage rating of one to determine power capability. Don't go under 50 volters. 100 volts is good. greg Have you been smoking crack? God help anyone that listens to this... -- Lizard teamROCS #007 / Technical Director / Founding Member *res derelicta* http://www.teamrocs.com/ X-Header-PO: This Line Exists to Violate Usenet Protocol, Disregard |
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Umm.. he is right.. you're the one smoking something..
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My dear buddy Lizzy!
You *CAN* make a nonpolar cap by putting two polar caps back to back!! I have done it a zillion times when making bass blockers or xovers! Eddie Runner Man of Experience! TeamROCS member from the beginning!! http://www.installer.com/tech/ http://www.teamrocs.com The Lizard wrote: GregS wrote: Nonpolar caps are made from polar caps. Just put two back to back, pos together. Divide the individual capacitance rating by 2, and use the voltage rating of one to determine power capability. Don't go under 50 volters. 100 volts is good. greg Have you been smoking crack? God help anyone that listens to this... -- Lizard teamROCS #007 / Technical Director / Founding Member *res derelicta* http://www.teamrocs.com/ X-Header-PO: This Line Exists to Violate Usenet Protocol, Disregard |
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Finally the mighty Godzilla falls to his death. Eat **** biatch.!
"Eddie Runner" wrote in message ... My dear buddy Lizzy! You *CAN* make a nonpolar cap by putting two polar caps back to back!! I have done it a zillion times when making bass blockers or xovers! Eddie Runner Man of Experience! TeamROCS member from the beginning!! http://www.installer.com/tech/ http://www.teamrocs.com The Lizard wrote: GregS wrote: Nonpolar caps are made from polar caps. Just put two back to back, pos together. Divide the individual capacitance rating by 2, and use the voltage rating of one to determine power capability. Don't go under 50 volters. 100 volts is good. greg Have you been smoking crack? God help anyone that listens to this... -- Lizard teamROCS #007 / Technical Director / Founding Member *res derelicta* http://www.teamrocs.com/ X-Header-PO: This Line Exists to Violate Usenet Protocol, Disregard |
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I think Lizzard actually agrees with me, but Greg posted it a little
strange saying " Nonpolar caps are made from polar caps." which is probably what Lizzard disagreed with.... YOU CAN make a nonpolar cap using two polar caps BUT, I am not sure that non polar caps ARE MADE from the factory that way.... I can see where there could be a missunderstanding.... Eddie Runner http://www.twfer.com -E-F-F-E-N-D-I- wrote: Finally the mighty Godzilla falls to his death. Eat **** biatch.! "Eddie Runner" wrote in message ... My dear buddy Lizzy! You *CAN* make a nonpolar cap by putting two polar caps back to back!! I have done it a zillion times when making bass blockers or xovers! Eddie Runner Man of Experience! TeamROCS member from the beginning!! http://www.installer.com/tech/ http://www.teamrocs.com The Lizard wrote: GregS wrote: Nonpolar caps are made from polar caps. Just put two back to back, pos together. Divide the individual capacitance rating by 2, and use the voltage rating of one to determine power capability. Don't go under 50 volters. 100 volts is good. greg Have you been smoking crack? God help anyone that listens to this... -- Lizard teamROCS #007 / Technical Director / Founding Member *res derelicta* http://www.teamrocs.com/ X-Header-PO: This Line Exists to Violate Usenet Protocol, Disregard |
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Eddie Runner wrote:
My dear buddy Lizzy! You *CAN* make a nonpolar cap by putting two polar caps back to back!! I have done it a zillion times when making bass blockers or xovers! You *CAN* make them yes, but they are not "non polar". The are simply bi directional. I'm sure you can waddle on over to an oscilliscope and see the adverse effect on the waveform this "rigging" causes. If this were power rectification, that would be one thing, but when you have to listen to this, I wouldn't go around telling people to purpously add modulated distortion to their music. Eddie, there's all sorts of half-assed rigging going on in your shop. I would'nt be so quick to mention it. -- Lizard teamROCS #007 / Technical Director / Founding Member *res derelicta* http://www.teamrocs.com/ X-Header-PO: This Line Exists to Violate Usenet Protocol, Disregard |
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-E-F-F-E-N-D-I- wrote:
Finally the mighty Godzilla falls to his death. Eat **** biatch.! Shouldn't you be jerking off a priest? -- Lizard teamROCS #007 / Technical Director / Founding Member *res derelicta* http://www.teamrocs.com/ X-Header-PO: This Line Exists to Violate Usenet Protocol, Disregard |
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SkinnyBoy wrote:
Umm.. he is right.. you're the one smoking something.. Uhm...no, he's not. How about you take two diodes and put them together. Does that suddenly make it a non diode? -- Lizard teamROCS #007 / Technical Director / Founding Member *res derelicta* http://www.teamrocs.com/ X-Header-PO: This Line Exists to Violate Usenet Protocol, Disregard |
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Liz
I hate to pick on you (I was trying to be nice to you since you decided to rejoin us here on RAC), but CAPACITORS and DIODES are completely different, for you to compare them only shows your Circuit City training classes were FULL OF CRAP!! (no wonder Circuit City fired you!!) You ought to stay with things your good at! Like being a change boy in a aundromat!! ha ha OOOPS, you got fired from that job too, I almost forgot....!! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Lizzypooh = Putz The Lizard wrote: SkinnyBoy wrote: Umm.. he is right.. you're the one smoking something.. Uhm...no, he's not. How about you take two diodes and put them together. Does that suddenly make it a non diode? |
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Lizardo!
You do need to get out more.... I give you some of my tech papers so you can put them on the teamROCS website, you take the name technical director and then you go APE**** all over the place with bad information! My suggestion to you is to forget that CIRCUIT CITY TECH TRAINING you went though before they FIRED YOU... and get some REAL info before you start running your mouth .... !!! Eddie Runner The real technical force behind our so called Technical director....!! http://www.teamrocs.com The Lizard wrote: Eddie Runner wrote: My dear buddy Lizzy! You *CAN* make a nonpolar cap by putting two polar caps back to back!! I have done it a zillion times when making bass blockers or xovers! You *CAN* make them yes, but they are not "non polar". The are simply bi directional. I'm sure you can waddle on over to an oscilliscope and see the adverse effect on the waveform this "rigging" causes. If this were power rectification, that would be one thing, but when you have to listen to this, I wouldn't go around telling people to purpously add modulated distortion to their music. Eddie, there's all sorts of half-assed rigging going on in your shop. I would'nt be so quick to mention it. -- Lizard teamROCS #007 / Technical Director / Founding Member *res derelicta* http://www.teamrocs.com/ X-Header-PO: This Line Exists to Violate Usenet Protocol, Disregard |
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Eddie Runner wrote:
Liz I hate to pick on you (I was trying to be nice to you since you decided to rejoin us here on RAC), but CAPACITORS and DIODES are completely different, for you to compare them only shows your At least you're capable of figuring out that it was only a 'comparison'. However, Eddie, what you fail to understand is that a modern electrolytic capacitor and a diode have much in common. They both are created by depositing a thin film of metal oxide as a layer on a metal plate. In the case of an electrolytic capacitor (most of which nowadays do not actually contain an electrolyte), the metal oxide creates a dielectric barrier between another plate while allowing the plates to be in close proximity. In a diode, the thin film of metal oxide is made from a semiconductor materiel that is, much like half your install crew, doped in order to give it special properties. So, whereas the oxide film in a capacitor is meant to not conduct at all, the metal film in a diode is designed to conduct alot in one direction, and not all in the other. Nevertheless, I challenge you to bounce on over to your oscilliscope, and test the transfer function of a pair of 50 uf polar electrolytic capacitors screwed end to end, and compare it to the transfer function of a normal 100 uf non-polar electrolytic capacitor. Report back when you're finished. -- Lizard teamROCS #007 / Technical Director / Founding Member *res derelicta* http://www.teamrocs.com/ X-Header-PO: This Line Exists to Violate Usenet Protocol, Disregard |
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In article ,
The Lizard wrote: Eddie Runner wrote: Liz I hate to pick on you (I was trying to be nice to you since you decided to rejoin us here on RAC), but CAPACITORS and DIODES are completely different, for you to compare them only shows your At least you're capable of figuring out that it was only a 'comparison'. However, Eddie, what you fail to understand is that a modern electrolytic capacitor and a diode have much in common. They both are created by depositing a thin film of metal oxide as a layer on a metal plate. In the case of an electrolytic capacitor (most of which nowadays do not actually contain an electrolyte), the metal oxide creates a dielectric barrier between another plate while allowing the plates to be in close proximity. In a diode, the thin film of metal oxide is made from a semiconductor materiel that is, much like half your install crew, doped in order to give it special properties. So, whereas the oxide film in a capacitor is meant to not conduct at all, the metal film in a diode is designed to conduct alot in one direction, and not all in the other. Nevertheless, I challenge you to bounce on over to your oscilliscope, and test the transfer function of a pair of 50 uf polar electrolytic capacitors screwed end to end, and compare it to the transfer function of a normal 100 uf non-polar electrolytic capacitor. Report back when you're finished. You are so on crack or so in need of an electronics book. You are why I never let any "professional" do electrical work on my car. |
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In article , Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
In article , The Lizard wrote: SkinnyBoy wrote: Umm.. he is right.. you're the one smoking something.. Uhm...no, he's not. How about you take two diodes and put them together. Does that suddenly make it a non diode? I guess it makes a zener. All well and good, I never really heard a explanation of why a nonpolar caps work and not short out. There has been usuage where I have seen the center terminals tied to a bias supply through a resistor. greg |
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Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
Two polarized capacitors back to back does _exactly_ make a non-polarized capacitor. Look it up in an electronics book. big-assed snip No, really...think about this...because if it were really that simple, there would be no need for non-polar electrolytic caps. Yes, you will get a cap that works in both directions, but it won't behave as a normal non-polar cap. It will add modulative distortion, and it might even be noticeable to the guy you're telling to rig this up. -- Lizard teamROCS #007 / Technical Director / Founding Member *res derelicta* http://www.teamrocs.com/ Save Farscape http://www.watchfarscape.com |
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Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
What you say doesn't mean **** as long as you refuse to do some research. You mean like looking at the response curve of two polar caps backed together on an oscilliscope? Did it already. I can post the graphics of the response curve if you like. -- Lizard teamROCS #007 / Technical Director / Founding Member *res derelicta* http://www.teamrocs.com/ Save Farscape http://www.watchfarscape.com |
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The Lizard wrote:
You mean like looking at the response curve of two polar caps backed together on an oscilliscope? Response curve of WHAT kind of signal?? |
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he wont.. Lizzypooooh is bluffing....
Kevin McMurtrie wrote: Do, please. |