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Hi,
Hope someone can help me. When I start my car (Alfa Romeo 156) the voltage drops to below 10v. This causes the radio to reset itself - and an associated interruption. Is there anyway I can stop this happening? Thanks, Walter. |
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doesn't sound right... Double check the alternator, I have always found
that voltage increases once the engine is started. Garrett Walter McCann wrote: Hi, Hope someone can help me. When I start my car (Alfa Romeo 156) the voltage drops to below 10v. This causes the radio to reset itself - and an associated interruption. Is there anyway I can stop this happening? Thanks, Walter. Walter McCann wrote: Hi, Hope someone can help me. When I start my car (Alfa Romeo 156) the voltage drops to below 10v. This causes the radio to reset itself - and an associated interruption. Is there anyway I can stop this happening? Thanks, Walter. Walter McCann wrote: Hi, Hope someone can help me. When I start my car (Alfa Romeo 156) the voltage drops to below 10v. This causes the radio to reset itself - and an associated interruption. Is there anyway I can stop this happening? Thanks, Walter. |
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Walter McCann wrote:
Hi, Hope someone can help me. When I start my car (Alfa Romeo 156) the voltage drops to below 10v. This causes the radio to reset itself - and an associated interruption. Is there anyway I can stop this happening? Have your battery tested. Your system shouldn't drop below 12 volts when you start. This indicates that there is a problem in your charging system. Either the battery is bad, or your alternator is no longer charging. Otherwise, you can use a very large capactior (100,000 uf) on the main power wire, with a diode to isolate it from the cars electrical system. Of couse, you'll get a slight voltage drop across the diode, but luckly you're going to have to use about 4 diodes in parallel to be able to handle the current of most decks (standard power diodes are about 3 amps), and this is going to reduce your voltage drop. But fix the car before you start rigging ****. -- Lizard teamROCS #007 / Technical Director / Founding Member *res derelicta* http://www.teamrocs.com/ X-Header-PO: This Line Exists to Violate Usenet Protocol, Disregard |
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Hi guys,
Thanks for the help. The voltage only drops while the starter is engaged and it is only for a second or so. Once the engine start, the voltage is always above 12v. Thanks, Walter. The Lizard wrote in message ... Walter McCann wrote: Hi, Hope someone can help me. When I start my car (Alfa Romeo 156) the voltage drops to below 10v. This causes the radio to reset itself - and an associated interruption. Is there anyway I can stop this happening? Have your battery tested. Your system shouldn't drop below 12 volts when you start. This indicates that there is a problem in your charging system. Either the battery is bad, or your alternator is no longer charging. Otherwise, you can use a very large capactior (100,000 uf) on the main power wire, with a diode to isolate it from the cars electrical system. Of couse, you'll get a slight voltage drop across the diode, but luckly you're going to have to use about 4 diodes in parallel to be able to handle the current of most decks (standard power diodes are about 3 amps), and this is going to reduce your voltage drop. But fix the car before you start rigging ****. |
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I suspect that you've got a bad or weak battery (or the wrong battery).
Best, Phil Sharkey |
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The Lizard wrote: Walter McCann wrote: Hi, Hope someone can help me. When I start my car (Alfa Romeo 156) the voltage drops to below 10v. This causes the radio to reset itself - and an associated interruption. Is there anyway I can stop this happening? Have your battery tested. Your system shouldn't drop below 12 volts when you start. This indicates that there is a problem in your charging system. Either the battery is bad, or your alternator is no longer charging. Otherwise, you can use a very large capactior (100,000 uf) on the main power wire, with a diode to isolate it from the cars electrical system. Of couse, you'll get a slight voltage drop across the diode, but luckly you're going to have to use about 4 diodes in parallel to be able to handle the current of most decks (standard power diodes are about 3 amps), and this is going to reduce your voltage drop. But fix the car before you start rigging ****. You should go measure your battery voltage while cranking before giving such advice. |
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With the car off you should read 12VDC with a multimeter When cranking
there will be a small drop in voltage but, after it starts you should read between 13.5VDC and 14.5VDC. It may level out to closer to 12VDC after a long period of time when the battery gets to a fully charged state and you hae no electrical item on that is draining power. If this is not happening then you could have a weak battery or your alternator/voltage regulator is not putting out properly. It could also be that the alternator needs to be replaced with a high amperage one if you have a very high drain from many audio amps. Easy way to find out is go a local Walmart with auto services and they will put a battery checker on it for free. The machine will tell within a couple of minutes if the battery or alternator is at fault. Also, if the battery is bad you could buy the battery they have with the highest CCA cold cranking amps with the longest warranty(72 months I believe). If it's the alternator go to a local shop to have replaced or a parts store and do it yourself. It is quite easy. Nice thing about the battery from Walmart is they will replace it for free any time within the warranty period. The other thing that could possibly be wrong is bad cables or faulty connections. They should be corrosion free at the battery posts. Sometimes corrosion gets down inside the cable itself and causes problems that you cannot see. 12VDC from the alternator across the battery posts is too low and needs to be checked to find out the problem before the battery causes the alternator to fail or vice versus. Then you will have to replace both. lter McCann" wrote in message om... Hi guys, Thanks for the help. The voltage only drops while the starter is engaged and it is only for a second or so. Once the engine start, the voltage is always above 12v. Thanks, Walter. The Lizard wrote in message ... Walter McCann wrote: Hi, Hope someone can help me. When I start my car (Alfa Romeo 156) the voltage drops to below 10v. This causes the radio to reset itself - and an associated interruption. Is there anyway I can stop this happening? Have your battery tested. Your system shouldn't drop below 12 volts when you start. This indicates that there is a problem in your charging system. Either the battery is bad, or your alternator is no longer charging. Otherwise, you can use a very large capactior (100,000 uf) on the main power wire, with a diode to isolate it from the cars electrical system. Of couse, you'll get a slight voltage drop across the diode, but luckly you're going to have to use about 4 diodes in parallel to be able to handle the current of most decks (standard power diodes are about 3 amps), and this is going to reduce your voltage drop. But fix the car before you start rigging ****. |
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Kevin I agree, in fact I am sure all would be shocked
if they knew the actual varriations that can be produced in a vehicle electrical system over short durations, both positive and negative including EMC transients. Take a look at ISO-7647-1, DIN 40839 and SAE-J1113 to name a few. Jeff "Kevin McMurtrie" wrote in message ... In article , The Lizard wrote: Kevin McMurtrie wrote: You should go measure your battery voltage while cranking before giving such advice. You should know what you're talking about before correcting my advice. Under no circuimstance should a healthy electrical system drop significantly below 12 volts while cranking, certainly not below 10 volts on a brand new 4 cylinder car. There is a small voltage drop because of the internal resistance of a battery under heavy load, but you're talking about losing an entire cell. Having installed ass-loads of remote starts, I think I'm a bit more qualified to asses the health voltage state of a car during ignition. I think your voltmeter sucks. My 96/97 Civic repair manual states: Battery voltage should be no less than 8.5V while cranking. Battery voltage should be above 9.6V at 300A. My 88 Tercel had a starter without a gearbox. It's repair manual said the battery voltage will be about 9V while cranking. A test showed it was about 9.5V to 9.7V. I installed an oversized battery and it maintained 10.5V while cranking. A check with an oscilloscope shows that the actual voltage varies quite a bit. 9V to 10V is only the average once the engine is spinning. I know this because I have designed personal electronics for automotive use. I built my first 100Wx2 audio amp from scratch, using descrete components and my own schematic, when I was still in high school. |
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