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Am Donnerstag, 6. April 2000 09:00:00 UTC+2 schrieb Danielle Holden:
Someone is selling e80cc's on ebay and claiming they are can be used in
place of a 12au7. Is this true? I cant confirm the equivalence
anywhere.

John

I use a Chinese Sonicgear amplifier for my PC. It actually uses one ECC82 / 12AU7 tube for preamp. I replaced it with a NOS Tungsram E80CC and never regretted that. The improvement in sound is unbelieveable.
But be cautious: may be the E80CC can replace an ECC82 only for audio but not for driver.

[John L Stewart]

Originally Posted by

Am Donnerstag, 6. April 2000 09:00:00 UTC+2 schrieb Danielle Holden:
Someone is selling e80cc's on ebay and claiming they are can be used in
place of a 12au7. Is this true? I cant confirm the equivalence
anywhere.

John

I use a Chinese Sonicgear amplifier for my PC. It actually uses one ECC82 / 12AU7 tube for preamp. I replaced it with a NOS Tungsram E80CC and never regretted that. The improvement in sound is unbelieveable.
But be cautious: may be the E80CC can replace an ECC82 only for audio but not for driver.

The e80cc is neither a 12AU7 or 12AX7. See it here-

http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/190/e/E80CC.pdf

& here-

http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/009/e/E80CC.pdf

It is spec’d for digital applications, specifically cathode interface caused by long ‘OFF’ periods. Should be AOK for audio!

Cheers to all, John L Stewart

[jh[_3_]]

On 08.07.2015 10:17, John L Stewart wrote:
;988400 Wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 6. April 2000 09:00:00 UTC+2 schrieb Danielle Holden:-
Someone is selling e80cc's on ebay and claiming they are can be used
in
place of a 12au7. Is this true? I cant confirm the equivalence
anywhere.

John-

I use a Chinese Sonicgear amplifier for my PC. It actually uses one
ECC82 / 12AU7 tube for preamp. I replaced it with a NOS Tungsram E80CC
and never regretted that. The improvement in sound is unbelieveable.
But be cautious: may be the E80CC can replace an ECC82 only for audio
but not for driver.

The e80cc is neither a 12AU7 or 12AX7. See it here-

http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/190/e/E80CC.pdf

& here-

http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/009/e/E80CC.pdf

It is spec’d for digital applications, specifically cathode interface
caused by long ‘OFF’ periods. Should be AOK for audio!

Cheers to all, John L Stewart


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....it is a wonderfull tube for audio - pristine

regards

Jochen

[Peter Wieck]

On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 5:56:42 PM UTC-4, jh wrote:
On 08.07.2015 10:17, John L Stewart wrote:
;988400 Wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 6. April 2000 09:00:00 UTC+2 schrieb Danielle Holden:-
Someone is selling e80cc's on ebay and claiming they are can be used
in
place of a 12au7. Is this true? I cant confirm the equivalence
anywhere.

John-

I use a Chinese Sonicgear amplifier for my PC. It actually uses one
ECC82 / 12AU7 tube for preamp. I replaced it with a NOS Tungsram E80CC
and never regretted that. The improvement in sound is unbelieveable.
But be cautious: may be the E80CC can replace an ECC82 only for audio
but not for driver.

The e80cc is neither a 12AU7 or 12AX7. See it here-

http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/190/e/E80CC.pdf

& here-

http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/009/e/E80CC.pdf

It is spec’d for digital applications, specifically cathode interface
caused by long ‘OFF’ periods. Should be AOK for audio!

Cheers to all, John L Stewart


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...it is a wonderfull tube for audio - pristine

regards

Jochen

Sure it is! But it is NOT always a valid substitute for a 12AU7, nor does it equal a 12AU7. That would be the point. And representing it as such is simply wrong.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

[jh[_3_]]

On 10.07.2015 14:55, Peter Wieck wrote:
On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 5:56:42 PM UTC-4, jh wrote:
On 08.07.2015 10:17, John L Stewart wrote:
;988400 Wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 6. April 2000 09:00:00 UTC+2 schrieb Danielle Holden:-
Someone is selling e80cc's on ebay and claiming they are can be used
in
place of a 12au7. Is this true? I cant confirm the equivalence
anywhere.

John-

I use a Chinese Sonicgear amplifier for my PC. It actually uses one
ECC82 / 12AU7 tube for preamp. I replaced it with a NOS Tungsram E80CC
and never regretted that. The improvement in sound is unbelieveable.
But be cautious: may be the E80CC can replace an ECC82 only for audio
but not for driver.

The e80cc is neither a 12AU7 or 12AX7. See it here-

http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/190/e/E80CC.pdf

& here-

http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/009/e/E80CC.pdf

It is spec’d for digital applications, specifically cathode interface
caused by long ‘OFF’ periods. Should be AOK for audio!

Cheers to all, John L Stewart


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...it is a wonderfull tube for audio - pristine

regards

Jochen

Sure it is! But it is NOT always a valid substitute for a 12AU7, nor does it equal a 12AU7. That would be the point. And representing it as such is simply wrong.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA


Did I?

I don't think so.

The E800CC is still a wonderful tube for audio

;-)

regards

Jochen

[Big Bad Bob]

On 07/12/15 07:26, jh so wittily quipped:
On 10.07.2015 14:55, Peter Wieck wrote:
On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 5:56:42 PM UTC-4, jh wrote:
On 08.07.2015 10:17, John L Stewart wrote:
;988400 Wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 6. April 2000 09:00:00 UTC+2 schrieb Danielle Holden:-
Someone is selling e80cc's on ebay and claiming they are can be used
in
place of a 12au7. Is this true? I cant confirm the equivalence
anywhere.

John-

I use a Chinese Sonicgear amplifier for my PC. It actually uses one
ECC82 / 12AU7 tube for preamp. I replaced it with a NOS Tungsram E80CC
and never regretted that. The improvement in sound is unbelieveable.
But be cautious: may be the E80CC can replace an ECC82 only for audio
but not for driver.

The e80cc is neither a 12AU7 or 12AX7. See it here-

http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/190/e/E80CC.pdf

& here-

http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/009/e/E80CC.pdf

It is spec’d for digital applications, specifically cathode interface
caused by long ‘OFF’ periods. Should be AOK for audio!

Cheers to all, John L Stewart


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...it is a wonderfull tube for audio - pristine

regards

Jochen

Sure it is! But it is NOT always a valid substitute for a 12AU7, nor
does it equal a 12AU7. That would be the point. And representing it as
such is simply wrong.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA


Did I?

I don't think so.

The E800CC is still a wonderful tube for audio

;-)


I don't think anyone disputes that. but applications requiring a 12AU7
[let's say a reverb drive or AB2 drive] might not work the same. I
think *that* was the point.