[Hueyduck[_3_]]

Hi,
I'm currently witing and producing the music for a short (20 min) movie.
This will be mainly orchestral music made with a PC (no real takes will
be incorporated).

When people hear my mixes, they all tell me there is no need to add an
extra step of "mixing the music".
But someone says to me that it is much better to deliver stems to the
final sound ingeneer.

I was told to use LRC format to deliver the stems.

Can someone confirm what format would the final ingeneer is to expect
from the producer of an orchestral music? What is usually done?
Is the LRC format usefull indeed?
What other advice could you give me in order to stay effective and to
give the engeneer all he/she needs and not more?

Thanks

Huey

PS: if there is a more specific forum for sound for movies, I'd be gald
to be redirected towardsit

PPS: if you know how to export LRC files from Cubase 5, please let me
know. Im' trying and reading the manual, but for the moment I'm not
successfull.

[Scott Dorsey]

Hueyduck wrote:
Hi,
I'm currently witing and producing the music for a short (20 min) movie.
This will be mainly orchestral music made with a PC (no real takes will
be incorporated).

When people hear my mixes, they all tell me there is no need to add an
extra step of "mixing the music".

Right. The thing is that when you add dialogue and effects, everything
changes. The music is, sad to say, less important than the dialogue so it
gets mixed around the dialogue.

But someone says to me that it is much better to deliver stems to the
final sound ingeneer.

Yes. Give him your final mix also, though, just so he can hear what you're
aiming for.

I was told to use LRC format to deliver the stems.

Do you mean LCR? Left center and right channels separated?

Can someone confirm what format would the final ingeneer is to expect
from the producer of an orchestral music? What is usually done?

Normally I see folks who want Pro Tools files for all stems, and yes they
want LCR stuff.

Is the LRC format usefull indeed?

Yes, because all films are shown on three-channel systems. Although, since
the dialogue is mixed to the center, it's often good not to have anything
arranged into the center while people are speaking. The center channel is
needed to center the dialogue.

What other advice could you give me in order to stay effective and to
give the engeneer all he/she needs and not more?

Call the engineer and ask them!
--scott

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[Hueyduck[_3_]]

Scott Dorsey a écrit :
Hueyduck wrote:


When people hear my mixes, they all tell me there is no need to add an
extra step of "mixing the music".

Right. The thing is that when you add dialogue and effects, everything
changes. The music is, sad to say, less important than the dialogue so it
gets mixed around the dialogue.
-
How true. I hadn't thought of that because there is almost no dialog in
the movie I'm talking about. But of course, it makes sense.
-

But someone says to me that it is much better to deliver stems to the
final sound ingeneer.

Yes. Give him your final mix also, though, just so he can hear what you're
aiming for.
-
Noted. Thanks
-


I was told to use LRC format to deliver the stems.

Do you mean LCR? Left center and right channels separated?
-
Yes, I do. I miswrote it because cubase names it "LRC". Now I know why
I couldn'tt find any documentation on google... ;-)
-

Can someone confirm what format would the final ingeneer is to expect
from the producer of an orchestral music? What is usually done?

Normally I see folks who want Pro Tools files for all stems, and yes they
want LCR stuff.
-
Thx ofr this confirmation.
-

Is the LRC format usefull indeed?

Yes, because all films are shown on three-channel systems. Although, since
the dialogue is mixed to the center, it's often good not to have anything
arranged into the center while people are speaking. The center channel is
needed to center the dialogue.

What other advice could you give me in order to stay effective and to
give the engeneer all he/she needs and not more?

Call the engineer and ask them!
-
This is on my to do list, along with "finding an motivated ingeneer" )

Thanks for your time, Scott.

Huey

[Mark]

Huey

PS: if there is a more specific forum for sound for movies, *I'd be gald
to be redirected towardsit



try

rec.audio.production.movies

also knowns as ramps



Mark

[Richard Webb[_3_]]

MEthinks you got the newsgroup pointer wrong mark.

The op should try:

rec.arts.movies.production.sound

That will get him to the appropriate group.

Lots of location sound guys there, but a couple of editors
and post guys too iirc.


Regards,
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[Hueyduck[_3_]]

Richard Webb a écrit :
MEthinks you got the newsgroup pointer wrong mark.

The op should try:

rec.arts.movies.production.sound

That will get him to the appropriate group.

Lots of location sound guys there, but a couple of editors
and post guys too iirc.


Thank you both. I'll try "Ramps" asap.

Have a nice week end

Huey

[Frank]

On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 16:26:43 -0700 (PDT), in 'rec.audio.pro',
in article Exporting orchestral (prog) stems for the final mix of
a movie: how?,
Mark wrote:



Huey

PS: if there is a more specific forum for sound for movies, *I'd be gald
to be redirected towardsit



try

rec.audio.production.movies

also knowns as ramps



Mark

ramps = rec.arts.movies.production.sound

Or so I thought.

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