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Would you all be so kind to recommend a good phone patch? Both to record
conversations and to patch my studio to the line for approvals.

So far, I've heard good comments about http://www.jkaudio.com products.

Thanks a lot...!

JL


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Would you all be so kind to recommend a good phone patch? Both to record
conversations and to patch my studio to the line for approvals.

So far, I've heard good comments about http://www.jkaudio.com products.


I'd recommend the Gentner stuff, although there are an awful lot of good
ones out there. You will find that having a real hybrid turns out to be
handy in the long run.

If you don't mind doing some tweaking and twiddling on each call, the older
analogue hybrid types are fine. What the fancy new digital gear gives you
is the ability to put a caller on the air instantly without having to peak
everything for maximum return rejection, and in your application you really
don't care about that.

Call your local broadcast supply house. They all have old hybrids lying
around.
--scott
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In article , JL wrote:
Would you all be so kind to recommend a good phone patch? Both to record
conversations and to patch my studio to the line for approvals.

So far, I've heard good comments about http://www.jkaudio.com products.


I'd recommend the Gentner stuff, although there are an awful lot of good
ones out there. You will find that having a real hybrid turns out to be
handy in the long run.

If you don't mind doing some tweaking and twiddling on each call, the older
analogue hybrid types are fine. What the fancy new digital gear gives you
is the ability to put a caller on the air instantly without having to peak
everything for maximum return rejection, and in your application you really
don't care about that.

Call your local broadcast supply house. They all have old hybrids lying
around.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
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In article , JL wrote:
If you don't mind doing some tweaking and twiddling on each call, the

older
analogue hybrid types are fine. What the fancy new digital gear gives you
is the ability to put a caller on the air instantly without having to peak
everything for maximum return rejection, and in your application you

really
don't care about that.


Thanks for your reply. Is there an advantage besides reducing my side of the
conversation in getting a hybrid? Would a regular 'coupler' (like the THAT1
from JKAudio) serve my purpose if I don't need "full duplex" transmission as
you need in broadcast? (normally I would be playing back a session for a
distant producer or director).




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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
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In article , JL wrote:
If you don't mind doing some tweaking and twiddling on each call, the

older
analogue hybrid types are fine. What the fancy new digital gear gives you
is the ability to put a caller on the air instantly without having to peak
everything for maximum return rejection, and in your application you

really
don't care about that.


Thanks for your reply. Is there an advantage besides reducing my side of the
conversation in getting a hybrid? Would a regular 'coupler' (like the THAT1
from JKAudio) serve my purpose if I don't need "full duplex" transmission as
you need in broadcast? (normally I would be playing back a session for a
distant producer or director).






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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message

Thanks for your reply. Is there an advantage besides reducing my side of the
conversation in getting a hybrid? Would a regular 'coupler' (like the THAT1
from JKAudio) serve my purpose if I don't need "full duplex" transmission as
you need in broadcast? (normally I would be playing back a session for a
distant producer or director).


You can't do real bidirectional stuff without a hybrid, and sooner or later
you'll have a distant producer wanting to monitor a session in progress and
comment on it in real time.
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message

Thanks for your reply. Is there an advantage besides reducing my side of the
conversation in getting a hybrid? Would a regular 'coupler' (like the THAT1
from JKAudio) serve my purpose if I don't need "full duplex" transmission as
you need in broadcast? (normally I would be playing back a session for a
distant producer or director).


You can't do real bidirectional stuff without a hybrid, and sooner or later
you'll have a distant producer wanting to monitor a session in progress and
comment on it in real time.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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Thanks for your reply. Is there an advantage besides reducing my side of the
conversation in getting a hybrid? Would a regular 'coupler' (like the THAT1
from JKAudio) serve my purpose if I don't need "full duplex" transmission as
you need in broadcast? (normally I would be playing back a session for a
distant producer or director).



If you are just playing back, taping a telephone mic to a headphone works
verywell.

I don't have a hybrid interface, only a simplex one (Symetrix 302), but have
had no problems with remote direction of sessions.

A hybrid would be better, but when I got my interface, they were very
expensive. Just never changed it out.
Richard H. Kuschel
"I canna change the law of physics."-----Scotty
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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
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You can't do real bidirectional stuff without a hybrid, and sooner or

later
you'll have a distant producer wanting to monitor a session in progress

and
comment on it in real time.


I understand. But, wouldn't that be accomplished by someone just picking up
an extension and staying on the phone while the session goes on (maybe
muting on and off during takes)? I think I don't need to bring the 'distant
producer' into the studio equipment, or am I overlooking something?

Once again, thank you for your advice.

JL


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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
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You can't do real bidirectional stuff without a hybrid, and sooner or

later
you'll have a distant producer wanting to monitor a session in progress

and
comment on it in real time.


I understand. But, wouldn't that be accomplished by someone just picking up
an extension and staying on the phone while the session goes on (maybe
muting on and off during takes)? I think I don't need to bring the 'distant
producer' into the studio equipment, or am I overlooking something?

Once again, thank you for your advice.

JL




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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
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You can't do real bidirectional stuff without a hybrid, and sooner or

later
you'll have a distant producer wanting to monitor a session in progress

and
comment on it in real time.


I understand. But, wouldn't that be accomplished by someone just picking up
an extension and staying on the phone while the session goes on (maybe
muting on and off during takes)? I think I don't need to bring the 'distant
producer' into the studio equipment, or am I overlooking something?


Try it and see.... I find that in this sort of case, the engineer finds
himself spending all his time relaying messages from the producer rather
than paying attention to what he is doing. Putting it through the talkback
makes life a whole lot easier.

But, if you get a simple one-way coupler used from one of the broadcast
supply houses, you can probably sell it on Ebay for what you paid if you
find it's not sufficient for the job. So you can try it and see.
--scott

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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
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You can't do real bidirectional stuff without a hybrid, and sooner or

later
you'll have a distant producer wanting to monitor a session in progress

and
comment on it in real time.


I understand. But, wouldn't that be accomplished by someone just picking up
an extension and staying on the phone while the session goes on (maybe
muting on and off during takes)? I think I don't need to bring the 'distant
producer' into the studio equipment, or am I overlooking something?


Try it and see.... I find that in this sort of case, the engineer finds
himself spending all his time relaying messages from the producer rather
than paying attention to what he is doing. Putting it through the talkback
makes life a whole lot easier.

But, if you get a simple one-way coupler used from one of the broadcast
supply houses, you can probably sell it on Ebay for what you paid if you
find it's not sufficient for the job. So you can try it and see.
--scott

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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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