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The simplest detector of audio signals from amplitude modulated RF and
IF waves is done using the age old idea of a vacuum tube or germanium diode used to charge a C usually from a winding on an IF transformer, and there is a following R strapped across the C which discharges the C constantly so that the average voltage across the C varies linearly with the varying amplitude of the RF or IF AM wave envelopes. The function is identical to to having a "1/2 wave rectifier" in a power supply, except that the charging up of the C is done at RF or IF frequencies, most commonly at 455kHz in AM radios, but F can be 10.7MHz in FM radios, or 4.5MHz in TV sets. Instead of a "load" on a PSU, the detector load is a carefully chosen R value to get a time constant with the chosen C value so that for a nominated value of maximum expected audio voltage and maximum expected audio frequency, there will be no slew distortions, and minimised ripple voltage for good AC to DC conversion factor, and the load imposed by the diode plus C plus R must not cause too much distortion of the RF or IF individual carrier waves or load up the driving source or cause reduction of the Q and hence selectivity of the tuned circuit which usually drives most detectors in old radios without any sort of buffer stage. I always like to instal a triode cathode follower buffer stage between the last IF transformer winding and detector in all old radios I repair or restore. The envelope wave is preserved almost pefectly intact and there is no loading of the LC tuned circuit, and no reduction of Q or distortions. The CF I like to use is typically a 1/2 12AU7. This may be set up with Rk = 33k and taken to a -150V rail. The anode is taken to the B+ rail used for the other radio tubes, typically +200Vdc. The last IFT winding has one end to 0V, with the live end taken to the 12AU7 grid. So, we have the idle voltage at the cathode at about +6Vdc. The output resistance of the CF = 1 / gm for the 12AU7, and this is approximately 400 ohms. The CF cathode feeds a diode anode with its cathode charging a C. There can be a vacuum tube diode, say 6AL5 with forward voltage drop of perhaps 0.05V, but with high Ra, or much easier, a germanium diode, IN60 or other ge types with forward voltage drop of about 0.2V and with low "on" resistance. So how is the C value chosen? I like the reactance of C, XC = 4 x Rout of the driving source which means in this case 4 x 400 ohms = 1k6. In this case let us say the detector is in an old radio with IF = 455kHz. If XC = 1k6, then C = 159,000 / ( XC x F ) = 159,000 / ( 0.00022uF x 455,000 ) = 220pF. So what is the R value needed for the wanted audio bandwidth? This depends on the audio voltages and undistorted frequency range we want to obtain from the detection process. There will always be a mimimum steady Vdc produced in a detector when there is no modulation and just a carrier present in the case of normal AM. ( With SSB or DSB envelopes, there is more to consider, but I only deal now with ordinary full AM signals as used by main broadcast band radio. ) We could drive a detector diode and C+R circuit directly from a grounded winding on an IFT. Because the source driving impedance is high, the C must be low value, typically 100pF maximum in many old radios but C could be much higher if the source impedance were much lower, and thus less prone to distortions, stray C effects and noise generation. But let us first assume that we are driving the detector from a low Z source and from a winding with one end grounded and NO modulation. With very low carrier levels the recovered or detected Vdc will be low, and if the diode has a forward voltage drop of say 0.2V, then the carrier peak voltage needs to be higher than 0.2V before any change in Vdc might occur. And if the carrier peak voltage was 0.2V, and there was any modulation, then the maximum peak and minimum peak carrier voltage would be a maximum of between 0V and 0.4V because that's what you'd get with 100% modulation. But the audio voltage recovered will be very distorted because the turn on character of the diode between 0V and 0.2V is causes little audio signal recovery from on the bottom halves of the AF waves. To try to keep well away from such non-linearity causing distressing sound quality from such abysmally low level source signals in our loungerooms, all sorts of other detectors have been invented, and I won't even discuss the better of them such as the "infinite impedance detector" or those using an opamp and NFB. In an old radio, we merely have to remember the enormous dynamic capability of the tubes and we will design the radio for much higher IF carrier signals than 0.2V pk to appear at the detector. We also want to be able to generate a decent AVC Vdc to control the gain of RF, mixer and IF amp stages. It so happens the AVC needed is often about -4Vdc. This may easily be gained from a seperate second detector circuit working from the anode of the last IF amp tube with small C, say 33pF feeding a diode and 1M load and 0.05uF C before the recovered -Vdc is applied to RFT and IFT grid windings. Such an AVC arrangement works well for least sibilance when tuning the strong stations we want listen to. But for the audio signal, we want a positive going audio signal, especially if we are working from a cathode follower whose turn on character is stronger than its turned off character.. But let us keep the focus on a carrier source from a grounded winding. To avoid the distortions, carrier levels should be at least 1 peak volts. From this and neglecting any diode resistance losses with a Ge diode, and the very slight clipping of IF wave peaks, we might get the steady V across C = carrier peak voltage. Any audio detected will be only badly distorted by diode non-linearity if the modulation levels are more than 70%. So far, I have assumed the IF carrier source is low Z, and C = 220pF, and that we want at least +1Vdc generated with no modulation. We also would want the 455kHz ripple voltage at C to be between 1/10 and 1/20 of the maximum possible peak audio voltage which will also be 1Vpk if the carrier is 1Vpk, ( at 100% modulation ). So what about R??? Well, considering all things, I came up with a formula developed from others used for PSU designs and calculations of ripple voltage. R = 10 to the 12th / ( 8 x highest slew free audio F x CpF ) 10 to the 12th is a constant. Suppose we want highest non slewed audio F = 10kHz, and Cpf = 220pF, then R = 1,000,000,000,000 / ( 8 x 10,000 x 220 ) = 57,818 ohms, in fact a standard 56k would be OK. Suppose the carrier level was a more healthy level of 2Vpk from out lowZ winding. We should see about 2Vpk at C without any modulation. Average 455kHz ripple voltage at C depends on the current drain from C through R. But after each time a carrier wave charges the C, the C voltage begins to decline along a curve known as the time constant decay curve. We have C, and we have R, so we can calculate their time constant. TC in seconds = R in ohms x C in Farads = 56,000 x 220/1,000,000,000,000 Expressed in uS, TC = 56,000 x 220/1,000,000 = 12.3uS If you draw one 10kHz sine wave lasting 100uS, and plot a time decay curve from the peak of the sine wave, you shoud see the slope of the decay curve is never flatter and is always slightly steeper than the steepest part of the 10kHz wave. This indicates slew distortion is impossible, and regardless of the sine wave voltages. Now using a grounded winding for our source, and carrier at 2Vpk, the recoverable max audio voltage is at 100% modulation and varies between 2Vpk and 0V. ( approx, with perfect diode) The ripple voltage will be highest when audio Vpk is highest, and where Vpk is minimal so to is the Vripple, and the varying Vripple gives an audio output voltage slightly less then the envelope shape and causing some distortion but it is mild, and may be neglected for the general concept. We would be intersted in the average Vripple, or Vripple with no modulation. The time constant we have = 12.3uS, which means the +2Vdc at C would fall to 0.37 x +2Vdc after 12.3uS and so on. But because the initial voltage drop is small, and much less than 2Vpeak, if the current was constant to initial the V drop would be 2V in 12.3uS. draw a graph of this if you are unsure. The time between each charge of the C = 1 / IF = 455,000 seconds = 2.2uS. So the Vdrop at C between charge pulses = 2.2 / 12.3 x 2V = 0.36 V. This equals the peak to peak voltage of the sawtooth shaped ripple voltage. Vripple in Vrms = Vp-p / 2.82 = 0.36/2.82 = 0.13V approx. The maximum audio Vrms =Vpk x 0.707 = 2 x 0.707 = 1.414Vrms, so Vripple is approximately 1/10 of the maximum audio. It is easily filtered down, and we might actually see 1.3Vrms max from the detector. At the average Vripple level where there is no modulation, initial current drain from C = Carrier Vpk / R = 2V / 56k = 0.036mA. We need to calculate this because we need to move on to using a cathode follower buffered IF signal source. Say we have the CF = 1/2 12AU7 and with grounded winding grid feed so bias voltage at cathode = Ek = +6Vdc. Now if the carrier at the cathode is 2Vpk, with no modulation the V across C will be +6Vdc + 2Vdc = +8Vdc. To obtain the same ripple voltage average we need only maintain the same initial current as voltage sags from C between charge pulses. so we have another formula... R = ( Cathode BIas Vdc + Carrier Vpk ) / current calculated above for where bias = 0V. = 8V / 0.036 = 222k, or 220k, standard value. The Vripple will not change much even when audio voltage is maximum. I have used the cathode follower with 33k Rk between cathode and 0V and fed the grid which has one end biased and bypassed at +30Vdc, with anode at about +200Vdc, and so Vdc across the C with Carrier Vpk at 2Vpk is about +38Vdc. With current = 0.036mA, R becomes 38 / 0.036 = 1.05Mohms, or 1M, standard value. Such a scheme gives extraordinarily low audio distortion right up to about 95% modulation where there is a tendency for a slight flat spot to appear on audio wave troughs because of the Vripple restriction as the envelope voltage change declines below about a 0.3Vpk to 0Vac at 0% modulation. In practice, the sound of the detector is excellent. One has to worry about the following network of R and C used to filter the Vripple, lest it cause cut off distortions but the CF + diode + C + R so far calculated is a low Z source of audio, and a typical filter will be say 100k used with a C calculated for the wanted audio F pole. Say F was 10kHz, R = 100k, then C uF = 159,000 / ( 10,000 x 100,000 ) uF = 159pF, or standard value = 150pF. The ripple would be reduced to about 3mV, and lost in the following audio amp bandwidth restrictions. In practice, 100pF would be OK. Patrick Turner |
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