[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On 2009-02-07 20:44:08 -0500, "Harry Lavo" said:

Thank you. Somehow I was under the impression you had cabled your computer
to your hifi system. Next up, I'm going to do some experimentation with
the Core Sound Tetrahedral mike, which, supposedly can be processed into
fine surround mixes. Your impressions will be particularly valuable, given
that you have a symmetric speaker arrangement.

Hi Bob -

No, I'm a holdout about wiring it up. I'm not opposed to it, it's just that
the system is one place and the computer another and I have had lots of
other priorties than a slingbox. I'm thinking about upgrading my computer,
and if I do I may take my current Shuttle box and make it part of the audio
system (although I currently am out of shelf space).

Harry, re-think about the computer. Whether you use it as a primary
source (as I do) or not, you may be shocked at how convenient it is,
and how much more it may enable yo to do.

Herbert

[TT]

"Herbert Hoover" wrote in message
news:2009020912220264440-HHoover1928@gmailcom...
On 2009-02-07 20:44:08 -0500, "Harry Lavo"
said:

Thank you. Somehow I was under the impression you had
cabled your computer
to your hifi system. Next up, I'm going to do some
experimentation with
the Core Sound Tetrahedral mike, which, supposedly can
be processed into
fine surround mixes. Your impressions will be
particularly valuable, given
that you have a symmetric speaker arrangement.

Hi Bob -

No, I'm a holdout about wiring it up. I'm not opposed to
it, it's just that
the system is one place and the computer another and I
have had lots of
other priorties than a slingbox. I'm thinking about
upgrading my computer,
and if I do I may take my current Shuttle box and make it
part of the audio
system (although I currently am out of shelf space).

Harry, re-think about the computer. Whether you use it as
a primary source (as I do) or not, you may be shocked at
how convenient it is, and how much more it may enable yo
to do.

Herbert

Agreed. I use a cheap HP laptop fitted with a professional
grade soundcard (EMU1616M) and then to an excellent DAC. So
I have all my music (and music videos) stored on network
HDs. I can also play various hi-rez sources as well (I
ripped all my DVD-A 2ch to HD as well) up to 24/192.

It is singularly the best thing I have ever done.

Cheers TT

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On 2009-02-09 20:11:08 -0500, "TT" said:

Harry, re-think about the computer. Whether you use it as
a primary source (as I do) or not, you may be shocked at
how convenient it is, and how much more it may enable yo
to do.

Herbert

Agreed. I use a cheap HP laptop fitted with a professional
grade soundcard (EMU1616M) and then to an excellent DAC. So
I have all my music (and music videos) stored on network
HDs. I can also play various hi-rez sources as well (I
ripped all my DVD-A 2ch to HD as well) up to 24/192.

It is singularly the best thing I have ever done.

Cheers TT

The hideous thing about this sob is that Arnold was the one to
introduce the idea to me I'm lost, lost....truly lost!!~

The good thing about it was that JA and JJ and a bunch of others
(including clients) introduced me to other important, constituent parts
of the technology that were equally concerned with quality as opposed
to class-war bashing.

I note your use of an inexpensive laptob, TT. The wonderful thing is
tha audio technology isn't usually a resource hog and doesn't require
16 GB of RAM and 8 cores to do its job perfectly. I also note you're
storing music videos. I c onfess I still am relatively unmoved by a
music video. I wonder if its just me or a generatioanl thing. I don't
have evn one stored anywhere.

Herbert

[hophead]

In article 2009021008460975249-HHoover1928@gmailcom, HHoover1928
@gmail.com says...

The hideous thing about this sob is that Arnold was the one to
introduce the idea to me I'm lost, lost....truly lost!!~

That's bad, but you can find some redemtion if you use a Borg condemned
high quality DAC. Bonus points for spending more than $5.00 on your
interconnects!

I c onfess I still am relatively unmoved by a
music video. I wonder if its just me or a generatioanl thing. I don't
have evn one stored anywhere.

I'm with you there - maybe it's generational, I don't know. But music
videos usually leave me cold. For me it's like seeing a poorly done
movie based on a book that I love: my imagination is so much richer than
what I'm seeing portrayed.

I do like some MC concert DVDs though.

--
hophead

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On 2009-02-10 11:56:53 -0500, hophead said:

In article 2009021008460975249-HHoover1928@gmailcom, HHoover1928
@gmail.com says...

The hideous thing about this sob is that Arnold was the one to
introduce the idea to me I'm lost, lost....truly lost!!~

That's bad, but you can find some redemtion if you use a Borg condemned
high quality DAC. Bonus points for spending more than $5.00 on your
interconnects!

I c onfess I still am relatively unmoved by a
music video. I wonder if its just me or a generatioanl thing. I don't
have evn one stored anywhere.

I'm with you there - maybe it's generational, I don't know. But music
videos usually leave me cold. For me it's like seeing a poorly done
movie based on a book that I love: my imagination is so much richer than
what I'm seeing portrayed.

I do like some MC concert DVDs though.

--
hophead

Hophead, first lt me congratulate you on the dev.nul. I need to get me
one of those, but I haven't moved to Unix yet. Give me a little time.

I see you know your B orgs. As a specific antidote, I spend a minimum
of one large on every interconnect. It doesn't improve the sound any,
but it gives Arnold ulcers.

Spot on with the imagination citation. We're simpatico here through and
through.


Herbert

[hophead]

In article 200902102042448930-HHoover1928@gmailcom, HHoover1928
@gmail.com says...


I see you know your B orgs. As a specific antidote, I spend a minimum
of one large on every interconnect. It doesn't improve the sound any,
but it gives Arnold ulcers.

If you really want to Borg proof, I recomend investing in an analog
rig. In fact, just having a few LPs around the house usually does the
trick even if you don't play them. While I've never tried it, I hear
that low-powered SET amps give the Borgs nightmares.

Spot on with the imagination citation. We're simpatico here through and
through.

Thanks Herbert. Looking forward to some pleasant exchanges and some good
times mocking the Borgs.

--
hophead

[TT]

"Herbert Hoover" wrote in message
news:2009021008460975249-HHoover1928@gmailcom...
On 2009-02-09 20:11:08 -0500, "TT" said:

Harry, re-think about the computer. Whether you use it as
a primary source (as I do) or not, you may be shocked at
how convenient it is, and how much more it may enable yo
to do.

Herbert

Agreed. I use a cheap HP laptop fitted with a professional
grade soundcard (EMU1616M) and then to an excellent DAC. So
I have all my music (and music videos) stored on network
HDs. I can also play various hi-rez sources as well (I
ripped all my DVD-A 2ch to HD as well) up to 24/192.

It is singularly the best thing I have ever done.

Cheers TT

The hideous thing about this sob is that Arnold was the one to
introduce the idea to me I'm lost, lost....truly lost!!~

I can safely say that I owned a Cambridge Audio 640H music server first and
this introduced me to the idea. The CA unit was a POS so I devised my own
way of doing it. AK had *nothing* to do with any of my decision process.


The good thing about it was that JA and JJ and a bunch of others
(including clients) introduced me to other important, constituent parts of
the technology that were equally concerned with quality as opposed to
class-war bashing.

Yes I went for quality as well hence the ability to do 24/192.


I note your use of an inexpensive laptob, TT. The wonderful thing is tha
audio technology isn't usually a resource hog and doesn't require 16 GB of
RAM and 8 cores to do its job perfectly.

Actually streaming stereo 24/192 uses as much bandwidth than a DVD video!
24x192x2=9.216MB/sec where the DVD-V standard allows for a max rate of
10MB/s

I also note you're storing music videos. I c onfess I still am relatively
unmoved by a music video. I wonder if its just me or a generatioanl thing.
I don't have evn one stored anywhere.

Ahhhhh it's all to do with the extra visual dimension. I must confess
playing some old Blondie, Stevie Nicks or even some Kylie music videos gets
my interest aroused ;-) I see no point in wasting space storing concert
DVDs as you may as well just put the DVD on. BTW I prefer to use this
Beyonwiz DP-S1 http://www.beyonwiz.com.au/DP_S1_overview.asp to stream video
rather than my laptop. The laptop has the disadvantage of a small screen
and a very poor video card and only 2 channel. Where as the DP-S1 is MC and
of course I can then use my 50"plasma or 120" PJ. BTW either the video or
music files can then be sent via an AV distribution hub to several other
areas in my house via either unit.

BTW one thing I can do with the laptop hooked up to a high quality system is
that I can really annoy people with Arny's PCABX. What are relatively easy
music files to distinguish between in relaxed listening tests now become
impossible with the added stress of having to compete in a performance
evaluation tests such as PCABX :-))

Cheers TT

[Herbert Hoover[_3_]]

On 2009-02-10 17:11:16 -0500, "TT" said:


The good thing about it was that JA and JJ and a bunch of others
(including clients) introduced me to other important, constituent parts of
the technology that were equally concerned with quality as opposed to
class-war bashing.

Yes I went for quality as well hence the ability to do 24/192.

I've never noticed a big quality improvement with upsampling, so I
don't do it. OTOH, my hearing is *not* good. I've lost a lot of the
upper frequencies over time. It's weird to still be able to hear
qualitative differences while at the same time being acutely aware that
I don't hear well any more.


I note your use of an inexpensive laptob, TT. The wonderful thing is tha
audio technology isn't usually a resource hog and doesn't require 16 GB of
RAM and 8 cores to do its job perfectly.

Actually streaming stereo 24/192 uses as much bandwidth than a DVD video!
24x192x2=9.216MB/sec where the DVD-V standard allows for a max rate of
10MB/s

Still doesn't require a massive set-up.

I also note you're storing music videos. I c onfess I still am relatively
unmoved by a music video. I wonder if its just me or a generatioanl thing.
I don't have evn one stored anywhere.

Ahhhhh it's all to do with the extra visual dimension. I must confess
playing some old Blondie, Stevie Nicks or even some Kylie music videos gets
my interest aroused ;-) I see no point in wasting space storing concert
DVDs as you may as well just put the DVD on. BTW I prefer to use this
Beyonwiz DP-S1 http://www.beyonwiz.com.au/DP_S1_overview.asp to stream video
rather than my laptop. The laptop has the disadvantage of a small screen
and a very poor video card and only 2 channel. Where as the DP-S1 is MC and
of course I can then use my 50"plasma or 120" PJ. BTW either the video or
music files can then be sent via an AV distribution hub to several other
areas in my house via either unit.

BTW one thing I can do with the laptop hooked up to a high quality system is
that I can really annoy people with Arny's PCABX. What are relatively easy
music files to distinguish between in relaxed listening tests now become
impossible with the added stress of having to compete in a performance
evaluation tests such as PCABX :-))

Cheers TT

Sheeesh,TT I had no idea you were such a mean old buzzard!


Herbert

[TT]

"Herbert Hoover" wrote in message
news:2009021021000811272-HHoover1928@gmailcom...
On 2009-02-10 17:11:16 -0500, "TT" said:


The good thing about it was that JA and JJ and a bunch of others
(including clients) introduced me to other important, constituent parts
of
the technology that were equally concerned with quality as opposed to
class-war bashing.

Yes I went for quality as well hence the ability to do 24/192.

I've never noticed a big quality improvement with upsampling,

No, not upsampling but recorded at this quality from the original master
tapes. Or as a lot of modern digital is done at 32/192.

so I don't do it. OTOH, my hearing is *not* good. I've lost a lot of the
upper frequencies over time. It's weird to still be able to hear
qualitative differences while at the same time being acutely aware that I
don't hear well any more.

Ah yes you are suffereing from A. G. E. BTW It has been proven to be
terminal ;-)

Still doesn't require a massive set-up.

BTW one thing I can do with the laptop hooked up to a high quality system
is
that I can really annoy people with Arny's PCABX. What are relatively
easy
music files to distinguish between in relaxed listening tests now become
impossible with the added stress of having to compete in a performance
evaluation tests such as PCABX :-))

Cheers TT

Sheeesh,TT I had no idea you were such a mean old buzzard!

Guilty as charged ;-) IMHO arrived at after I tried (in vain) to prove Arny
right. The basic problem with the program is that it switches on different
thought patterns in me (and others)and then goal is to beat the machine and
program not what music sounds nicer/different. I wanted to prove CDs sounded
better than MP3s. After numerous hours of "torture" I managed to prove my
headphones weren't as good as my speakers and Creative software that came
with my Audigy card is crap at making MP3s. So after many wasted hours I
proved to myself that what I knew was actually right after all.

Cheers TT