[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Why doesn't praying ever seem to work? The Krooborg can answer that as well
as any human being can. It's because Western civilization is torn between
the worship of imaginary gods and the pursuit of absolute truth through
science.

On second thought, the Krooborg couldn't possibly answer that question.
That's because the poor, dumb Beast doesn't understand the difference
between science and religion. It thinks they are one and the same thing.
Rational humans know that they are entirely incompatible and utterly
irrelevant to one another.

Identifying the "purpose" of organized religion is a fertile field for the
"debating trade". In what other area of human effort is conflating cause
and effect considered a positive attribute? Only in Big Religion and the
"debating trade", and nowhere else. The purpose of science, however, is
clear and precise: Discovering truth. Truth is also called knowledge, but
they are not really the same thing. The quality of knowledge depends on the
ability of an individual to understand truth. Whereas truth itself exists
independently of any mere mortal's ability to comprehend it.

Which brings me to Arnii Krooborg's missed calling: He should have become a
minister in the Christian Science church. Not because their dogma is more
farfetched and fantastical than that of the Baptists. Nor because their
very name is an oxymoron and thus a beacon for "debating trade" warriors.
No, the overarching attraction for the likes of Arnii Krooborg is their
refusal to use real science in their daily lives.

The Christian Scientists pretend their religion's simplicity is an asset.

Christian Science is believed by its supporters to be a
system of spiritually scientific truths that are summed up
in the two commandments: having one God, one Mind,
one Life, Truth, and Love; and loving your neighbor
as yourself.
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Science]

From there these loonies go on to early death because they won't take the
cures offered by science. But not to worry -- it's all "God"'s plan:

Christian Scientists point to Jesus's teaching that his
followers would do "greater works" than he did (John
14:12) and that a person who lived in conformity with
his teachings would not be subject even to death.
[ibid.]

Sounds silly, but if you choose to disbelieve reality in all its forms,
maybe it's not silly to you at all.

Arnii Krooborg needs to consider these tenets of Christian Scientism
carefully. How wonderful it would be to believe in an afterlife that is a
continuation of the pointless tail-chasing existence of "debating trade"
warriors. Right, Turdy?

[MiNe 109]

In article ,
George M. Middius wrote:

Which brings me to Arnii Krooborg's missed calling: He should have become a
minister in the Christian Science church.

Umm...

Stephen

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

MiNe 109 said:

Which brings me to Arnii Krooborg's missed calling: He should have become a
minister in the Christian Science church.

Umm...


Yes.... ? (Don't be too nitpicky. It's just a troll.)

[MiNe 109]

In article ,
George M. Middius wrote:

MiNe 109 said:

Which brings me to Arnii Krooborg's missed calling: He should have become
a minister in the Christian Science church.

Umm...

Yes.... ? (Don't be too nitpicky. It's just a troll.)

Christian Science churches don't have ministers.

Stephen

[Vinylanach]

On Sep 27, 6:54�am, MiNe 109 wrote:
In article ,
�George M. Middius wrote:

MiNe 109 said:

Which brings me to Arnii Krooborg's missed calling: He should have become
a minister in the Christian Science church.

Umm...

Yes.... ? (Don't be too nitpicky. It's just a troll.)

Christian Science churches don't have ministers.

Do they call them lab partners?

Boon

[MiNe 109]

In article
,
Vinylanach wrote:

On Sep 27, 6:54?am, MiNe 109 wrote:
In article ,
?George M. Middius wrote:

MiNe 109 said:

Which brings me to Arnii Krooborg's missed calling: He should have
become
a minister in the Christian Science church.

Umm...

Yes.... ? (Don't be too nitpicky. It's just a troll.)

Christian Science churches don't have ministers.

Do they call them lab partners?

That's that other science religion. :-)

They have practitioners. Services are led by "readers."

Stephen

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

MiNe 109 said:

Which brings me to Arnii Krooborg's missed calling: He should have become
a minister in the Christian Science church.

Umm...

Yes.... ? (Don't be too nitpicky. It's just a troll.)

Christian Science churches don't have ministers.

This is the 'borg dimension, where reality doesn't count. Next!™

BTW, did you know that already or did you look it up?

[MiNe 109]

In article ,
George M. Middius wrote:

MiNe 109 said:

Which brings me to Arnii Krooborg's missed calling: He should have
become
a minister in the Christian Science church.

Umm...

Yes.... ? (Don't be too nitpicky. It's just a troll.)

Christian Science churches don't have ministers.

This is the 'borg dimension, where reality doesn't count. Next!™

BTW, did you know that already or did you look it up?

Yes, I knew it.

Stephen

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

MiNe 109 said:

Which brings me to Arnii Krooborg's missed calling: He should have
become a minister in the Christian Science church.

Umm...

Yes.... ? (Don't be too nitpicky. It's just a troll.)

Christian Science churches don't have ministers.

This is the 'borg dimension, where reality doesn't count. Next!™
BTW, did you know that already or did you look it up?

Yes, I knew it.

Why?

[Arny Krueger]

"George M. Middius" wrote in
message

Why doesn't praying ever seem to work?

Middiot, you say praying doesn't work.

Yet, I pray for your welfare.

Are you not well?

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

The Krooborg's RCD kicks in.

Why doesn't praying ever seem to work?

[My supreme master], you say praying doesn't work.

Arnii, it's a known fact that Scottie Witlessmongrel suffers from ADD. Do
you want Normal people to think you're as imbecilic as he is? Read my
entire post, even if it takes you all day. Then you can offer your typical
semiliterate reply.

Why doesn't praying ever seem to work? The Krooborg can answer that as well
as any human being can. It's because Western civilization is torn between
the worship of imaginary gods and the pursuit of absolute truth through
science.

On second thought, the Krooborg couldn't possibly answer that question.
That's because the poor, dumb Beast doesn't understand the difference
between science and religion. It thinks they are one and the same thing.
Rational humans know that they are entirely incompatible and utterly
irrelevant to one another.

Identifying the "purpose" of organized religion is a fertile field for the
"debating trade". In what other area of human effort is conflating cause
and effect considered a positive attribute? Only in Big Religion and the
"debating trade", and nowhere else. The purpose of science, however, is
clear and precise: Discovering truth. Truth is also called knowledge, but
they are not really the same thing. The quality of knowledge depends on the
ability of an individual to understand truth. Whereas truth itself exists
independently of any mere mortal's ability to comprehend it.

Which brings me to Arnii Krooborg's missed calling: He should have become a
minister in the Christian Science church. Not because their dogma is more
farfetched and fantastical than that of the Baptists. Nor because their
very name is an oxymoron and thus a beacon for "debating trade" warriors.
No, the overarching attraction for the likes of Arnii Krooborg is their
refusal to use real science in their daily lives.

The Christian Scientists pretend their religion's simplicity is an asset.

Christian Science is believed by its supporters to be a
system of spiritually scientific truths that are summed up
in the two commandments: having one God, one Mind,
one Life, Truth, and Love; and loving your neighbor
as yourself.
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Science]

From there these loonies go on to early death because they won't take the
cures offered by science. But not to worry -- it's all "God"'s plan:

Christian Scientists point to Jesus's teaching that his
followers would do "greater works" than he did (John
14:12) and that a person who lived in conformity with
his teachings would not be subject even to death.
[ibid.]

Sounds silly, but if you choose to disbelieve reality in all its forms,
maybe it's not silly to you at all.

Arnii Krooborg needs to consider these tenets of Christian Scientism
carefully. How wonderful it would be to believe in an afterlife that is a
continuation of the pointless tail-chasing existence of "debating trade"
warriors. Right, Turdy?




--


"Who is Arnii Krooger?" -- Arnii Krooger (2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008)

[Vinylanach]

On Sep 27, 10:49�am, "Arny Krueger" wrote:
"George M. Middius" wrote in
messagenews:5oqnd49d87dudu3lumvt5bht7n78jhhh4a@4ax .com

Why doesn't praying ever seem to work?

Middiot, you say praying doesn't work.

Yet, I pray for your welfare.

Are you not well?

Praying works 50% of the time. In other words, it's random like a DBT
result.

Boon

[Vinylanach]

On Sep 27, 11:50�am, Vinylanach wrote:
On Sep 27, 10:49 am, "Arny Krueger" wrote:

"George M. Middius" wrote in
messagenews:5oqnd49d87dudu3lumvt5bht7n78jhhh4a@4ax .com

Why doesn't praying ever seem to work?

Middiot, you say praying doesn't work.

Yet, I pray for your welfare.

Are you not well?

Praying works 50% of the time. �In other words, it's random like a DBT
result.

BTW, I'm going to go out on a limb and bet that Arny has never prayed
for George's welfare. NOT...ONE...SINGLE...TIME.

Boon

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Vinylanach said:

Yet, I pray for your welfare.

Praying works 50% of the time. ?In other words, it's random like a DBT
result.

BTW, I'm going to go out on a limb and bet that Arny has never prayed
for George's welfare. NOT...ONE...SINGLE...TIME.

Marc does this, mean Marck that you are accusing Arnii Marc, of lyeing
Marrc?

[Vinylanach]

On Sep 27, 2:48�pm, George M. Middius
wrote:
Vinylanach said:

Yet, I pray for your welfare.
Praying works 50% of the time. ?In other words, it's random like a DBT
result.

BTW, I'm going to go out on a limb and bet that Arny has never prayed
for George's welfare. �NOT...ONE...SINGLE...TIME.

Marc does this, mean Marck that you are accusing Arnii Marc, of lyeing
Marrc?

With every ounce of my being.

Boon

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Vinylanach said:

Yet, I pray for your welfare.

Praying works 50% of the time. ?In other words, it's random like a DBT result.

BTW, I'm going to go out on a limb and bet that Arny has never prayed
for George's welfare. ?NOT...ONE...SINGLE...TIME.

Marc does this, mean Marck that you are accusing Arnii Marc, of lyeing
Marrc?

With every ounce of my being.

I've been told that real christians aren't supposed to lie. Perhaps
Mistress Jenn, who has said she is a christian, will confirm that.

If so, somebody should start ex-Krookristianization proceedings. That
benighted chruch™ has enough problems without being forced to endure the
festering boil of Kroofulness.

[Clyde Slick]

On 27 Sep, 13:49, "Arny Krueger" wrote:
"George M. Middius" wrote in
messagenews:5oqnd49d87dudu3lumvt5bht7n78jhhh4a@4ax .com

Why doesn't praying ever seem to work?

Middiot, you say praying doesn't work.

Yet, I pray for your welfare.


I pray for your welfare check.

[MiNe 109]

In article ,
George M. Middius wrote:

MiNe 109 said:

Which brings me to Arnii Krooborg's missed calling: He should
have
become a minister in the Christian Science church.

Umm...

Yes.... ? (Don't be too nitpicky. It's just a troll.)

Christian Science churches don't have ministers.

This is the 'borg dimension, where reality doesn't count. Next!™
BTW, did you know that already or did you look it up?

Yes, I knew it.

Why?

Why not?

Stephen

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

MiNe 109 said:

Christian Science churches don't have ministers.

This is the 'borg dimension, where reality doesn't count. Next!™
BTW, did you know that already or did you look it up?

Yes, I knew it.

Why?

Why not?

You took a course or two in comparative religion. Admit it.

[MiNe 109]

In article ,
George M. Middius wrote:

MiNe 109 said:

Christian Science churches don't have ministers.

This is the 'borg dimension, where reality doesn't count. Next!™
BTW, did you know that already or did you look it up?

Yes, I knew it.

Why?

Why not?

You took a course or two in comparative religion. Admit it.

It might have been mentioned in that ebook I linked a couple of weeks
ago.

Stephen

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

MiNe 109 said:

Christian Science churches don't have ministers.

This is the 'borg dimension, where reality doesn't count. Next!™
BTW, did you know that already or did you look it up?

Yes, I knew it.

Why?

Why not?

You took a course or two in comparative religion. Admit it.

It might have been mentioned in that ebook I linked a couple of weeks ago.

Speed-reader? Arnii is sure to be praying for you.

[MiNe 109]

In article ,
George M. Middius wrote:

MiNe 109 said:

Christian Science churches don't have ministers.

This is the 'borg dimension, where reality doesn't count. Next!™
BTW, did you know that already or did you look it up?

Yes, I knew it.

Why?

Why not?

You took a course or two in comparative religion. Admit it.

It might have been mentioned in that ebook I linked a couple of weeks ago.

Speed-reader? Arnii is sure to be praying for you.

If John McCain can't read a three-page proposal overnight, I can take a
month for dissertation.

Stephen

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

MiNe 109 said:

You took a course or two in comparative religion. Admit it.

It might have been mentioned in that ebook I linked a couple of weeks ago.

Speed-reader? Arnii is sure to be praying for you.

If John McCain can't read a three-page proposal overnight, I can take a
month for dissertation.

Hmph. McCain aspires to attain that level of mediocrity.

Catch SNL yesterday? The opening sketch was a withering parody of Gov.
Moosekill. First time I've actually laughed at that show in several years.

[MiNe 109]

In article ,
George M. Middius wrote:

MiNe 109 said:

You took a course or two in comparative religion. Admit it.

It might have been mentioned in that ebook I linked a couple of weeks
ago.

Speed-reader? Arnii is sure to be praying for you.

If John McCain can't read a three-page proposal overnight, I can take a
month for dissertation.

Hmph. McCain aspires to attain that level of mediocrity.

Catch SNL yesterday? The opening sketch was a withering parody of Gov.
Moosekill. First time I've actually laughed at that show in several years.

Watching it now. "I'd like to use one of my lifelines." LOL.

Stephen

[Jenn[_3_]]

In article ,
MiNe 109 wrote:

In article ,
George M. Middius wrote:

MiNe 109 said:

You took a course or two in comparative religion. Admit it.

It might have been mentioned in that ebook I linked a couple of weeks
ago.

Speed-reader? Arnii is sure to be praying for you.

If John McCain can't read a three-page proposal overnight, I can take a
month for dissertation.

Hmph. McCain aspires to attain that level of mediocrity.

Catch SNL yesterday? The opening sketch was a withering parody of Gov.
Moosekill. First time I've actually laughed at that show in several years.

Watching it now. "I'd like to use one of my lifelines." LOL.

Stephen

What makes it so funny is the truth of it.

[MiNe 109]

In article ,
Jenn wrote:

In article ,
MiNe 109 wrote:

In article ,
George M. Middius wrote:

MiNe 109 said:

You took a course or two in comparative religion. Admit it.

It might have been mentioned in that ebook I linked a couple of
weeks
ago.

Speed-reader? Arnii is sure to be praying for you.

If John McCain can't read a three-page proposal overnight, I can take a
month for dissertation.

Hmph. McCain aspires to attain that level of mediocrity.

Catch SNL yesterday? The opening sketch was a withering parody of Gov.
Moosekill. First time I've actually laughed at that show in several
years.

Watching it now. "I'd like to use one of my lifelines." LOL.

Stephen

What makes it so funny is the truth of it.

I doubt the campaign is looking forward to the debate with Biden. I
suppose they'll accuse him of being mean to her or something.

Stephen

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

MiNe 109 said:

Catch SNL yesterday? The opening sketch was a withering parody of Gov.
Moosekill. First time I've actually laughed at that show in several years.

Watching it now. "I'd like to use one of my lifelines." LOL.

What makes it so funny is the truth of it.

I doubt the campaign is looking forward to the debate with Biden. I
suppose they'll accuse him of being mean to her or something.

Does she actually consider herself to be a feminist?

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Sep 28, 9:00*pm, MiNe 109 wrote:
In article ,





*Jenn wrote:
In article ,
*MiNe 109 * wrote:

In article ,
*George M. Middius wrote:

MiNe 109 said:

You took a course or two in comparative religion. Admit it.

It might have been mentioned in that ebook I linked a couple of
weeks
ago.

Speed-reader? Arnii is sure to be praying for you.

If John McCain can't read a three-page proposal overnight, I can take a
month for dissertation.

Hmph. McCain aspires to attain that level of mediocrity.

Catch SNL yesterday? The opening sketch was a withering parody of Gov.
Moosekill. First time I've actually laughed at that show in several
years.

Watching it now. "I'd like to use one of my lifelines." LOL.

Stephen

What makes it so funny is the truth of it.

I doubt the campaign is looking forward to the debate with Biden. I
suppose they'll accuse him of being mean to her or something.

Didn't the campaigns get the questions for that one in advance?

[MiNe 109]

In article ,
George M. Middius wrote:

MiNe 109 said:

Catch SNL yesterday? The opening sketch was a withering parody of
Gov.
Moosekill. First time I've actually laughed at that show in several
years.

Watching it now. "I'd like to use one of my lifelines." LOL.

What makes it so funny is the truth of it.

I doubt the campaign is looking forward to the debate with Biden. I
suppose they'll accuse him of being mean to her or something.

Does she actually consider herself to be a feminist?

Doubtful. I imagine her denomination is highly patriarchal. However, the
righties will claim all attacks are misogyny, male chauvinism, etc, or
whatever the false list art laid on me was.

Wiki on Assemblies of God doesn't mention patriarchy as such, but the
church website isn't keen on secular humanism, "a subtle yet extremely
injurious cancer eating away at the moral health of society."

Stephen

[MiNe 109]

In article
,
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote:

On Sep 28, 9:00*pm, MiNe 109 wrote:
In article ,





*Jenn wrote:
In article ,
*MiNe 109 * wrote:

In article ,
*George M. Middius wrote:

MiNe 109 said:

You took a course or two in comparative religion. Admit it.

It might have been mentioned in that ebook I linked a couple of
weeks
ago.

Speed-reader? Arnii is sure to be praying for you.

If John McCain can't read a three-page proposal overnight, I can
take a
month for dissertation.

Hmph. McCain aspires to attain that level of mediocrity.

Catch SNL yesterday? The opening sketch was a withering parody of
Gov.
Moosekill. First time I've actually laughed at that show in several
years.

Watching it now. "I'd like to use one of my lifelines." LOL.

Stephen

What makes it so funny is the truth of it.

I doubt the campaign is looking forward to the debate with Biden. I
suppose they'll accuse him of being mean to her or something.

Didn't the campaigns get the questions for that one in advance?

Good idea! Except for the talking point that Obama sounded memorized in
his debate.

Stephen

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Sep 28, 11:26*pm, MiNe 109 wrote:
In article
,
*"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote:





On Sep 28, 9:00*pm, MiNe 109 * wrote:
In article ,

*Jenn wrote:
In article ,
*MiNe 109 * wrote:

In article ,
*George M. Middius wrote:

MiNe 109 said:

You took a course or two in comparative religion. Admit it.

It might have been mentioned in that ebook I linked a couple of
weeks
ago.

Speed-reader? Arnii is sure to be praying for you.

If John McCain can't read a three-page proposal overnight, I can
take a
month for dissertation.

Hmph. McCain aspires to attain that level of mediocrity.

Catch SNL yesterday? The opening sketch was a withering parody of
Gov.
Moosekill. First time I've actually laughed at that show in several
years.

Watching it now. "I'd like to use one of my lifelines." LOL.

Stephen

What makes it so funny is the truth of it.

I doubt the campaign is looking forward to the debate with Biden. I
suppose they'll accuse him of being mean to her or something.

Didn't the campaigns get the questions for that one in advance?

Good idea! Except for the talking point that Obama sounded memorized in
his debate.

My bad. This is what it was:

At the insistence of the McCain campaign, the Oct. 2 debate between
the Republican nominee for vice president, Gov. Sarah Palin, and her
Democratic rival, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., will have shorter
question-and-answer segments than those for the presidential nominees,
the advisers said. There will also be much less opportunity for free-
wheeling, direct exchanges between the running mates.

McCain advisers said they had been concerned that a loose format could
leave Ms. Palin, a relatively inexperienced debater, at a disadvantage
and largely on the defensive.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/21/us...debate.html?hp

[MiNe 109]

In article
,
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote:

On Sep 28, 11:26*pm, MiNe 109 wrote:
In article
,
*"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote:





On Sep 28, 9:00*pm, MiNe 109 * wrote:
In article ,

*Jenn wrote:
In article ,
*MiNe 109 * wrote:

In article ,
*George M. Middius wrote:

MiNe 109 said:

You took a course or two in comparative religion. Admit
it.

It might have been mentioned in that ebook I linked a
couple of
weeks
ago.

Speed-reader? Arnii is sure to be praying for you.

If John McCain can't read a three-page proposal overnight, I
can
take a
month for dissertation.

Hmph. McCain aspires to attain that level of mediocrity.

Catch SNL yesterday? The opening sketch was a withering parody of
Gov.
Moosekill. First time I've actually laughed at that show in
several
years.

Watching it now. "I'd like to use one of my lifelines." LOL.

Stephen

What makes it so funny is the truth of it.

I doubt the campaign is looking forward to the debate with Biden. I
suppose they'll accuse him of being mean to her or something.

Didn't the campaigns get the questions for that one in advance?

Good idea! Except for the talking point that Obama sounded memorized in
his debate.

My bad. This is what it was:

At the insistence of the McCain campaign, the Oct. 2 debate between
the Republican nominee for vice president, Gov. Sarah Palin, and her
Democratic rival, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., will have shorter
question-and-answer segments than those for the presidential nominees,
the advisers said. There will also be much less opportunity for free-
wheeling, direct exchanges between the running mates.

McCain advisers said they had been concerned that a loose format could
leave Ms. Palin, a relatively inexperienced debater, at a disadvantage
and largely on the defensive.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/21/us...debate.html?hp

I'll take "financial derivatives" for a billion, Alex.

Stephen

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

MiNe 109 said:

McCain advisers said they had been concerned that a loose format could
leave Ms. Palin, a relatively inexperienced debater, at a disadvantage
and largely on the defensive.

I'll take "financial derivatives" for a billion, Alex.

Speaking of short answers, how's the anti-testing movement progressing
in the education industry? I read recently that several prestigious
universities are going to discount SAT results for admissions.

[MiNe 109]

In article ,
George M. Middius wrote:

MiNe 109 said:

McCain advisers said they had been concerned that a loose format could
leave Ms. Palin, a relatively inexperienced debater, at a disadvantage
and largely on the defensive.

I'll take "financial derivatives" for a billion, Alex.

Speaking of short answers, how's the anti-testing movement progressing
in the education industry? I read recently that several prestigious
universities are going to discount SAT results for admissions.

Not my area of expertise, but I'd guess the SAT essay portion, or
graduate assistant supplemental income section, hasn't done enough to
distinguish the applicants.

Some states have "top ten percent" or similar admission programs that
ignore the SAT.

Stephen

[Clyde Slick]

On 29 Sep, 11:56, George M. Middius wrote:
MiNe 109 said:

McCain advisers said they had been concerned that a loose format could
leave Ms. Palin, a relatively inexperienced debater, at a disadvantage
and largely on the defensive.
I'll take "financial derivatives" for a billion, Alex.

Speaking of short answers, how's the anti-testing movement progressing
in the education industry? I read recently that several prestigious
universities are going to discount SAT results for admissions.

When I took the SAT's back in 67-68 I didn't have to
wear blindfolds. Has that changed?

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Clyde Slick said:

I read recently that several prestigious
universities are going to discount SAT results for admissions.

When I took the SAT's back in 67-68 I didn't have to
wear blindfolds. Has that changed?

I believe some progress has been made in stemming congential mutations
like extra sets of eyeballs.