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Can someone provide a brief overview of the frequency response
characteristics of a good quality audio cassette tape compared with a recordable CD? I am interested in recording ambient nature sounds and would like to capture as much realism as possible. Thank you, David King |
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David King wrote: Can someone provide a brief overview of the frequency response characteristics of a good quality audio cassette tape compared with a recordable CD? I am interested in recording ambient nature sounds and would like to capture as much realism as possible. Thank you, David King Use a good portable digital recorder. They provide enough headroom in frequency response and dynamic range to still sound good after enhancement and editing. -- Block Google's spam and enjoy Usenet again. Reply with Google and I won't hear from you. |
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Can someone provide a brief overview of the frequency response characteristics of a good quality audio cassette tape compared with a recordable CD? It seems likely that the very best possible audio cassette was a poor performer against the most average CD. I am interested in recording ambient nature sounds and would like to capture as much realism as possible. Recording ambient and/or nature sounds makes more demands on using quiet microphones and mic preamps because of the low levels of the desired sounds. There aren't many (any?) portable (battery operated, over the shoulder, etc.) CD recordable devices out there. The method of choice these days is a digital flash and/or hard-drive recorder of some kind. There are several to choose from these days. Recommend researching the Google Usenet archives for previous discussions on portable recorders and ambient/nature recording in both rec.audio.tech and rec.audio.pro I recently bought a portable recorder from the Oade Brothers who sell specially modified equipment to people who use them for wider dynamic range recording like nature/ambient and for classical music, etc. www.oade.com |
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... Can someone provide a brief overview of the frequency response characteristics of a good quality audio cassette tape compared with a recordable CD? I am interested in recording ambient nature sounds and would like to capture as much realism as possible. Thank you, David King They are not really in the same category. CDs are recorded digitally. Tape is analog. Digital is definately the way to go because there is no signal loss at all on replay. But the standard size recordable CD is not the most portable media so some other form of initial digital sound capture onto flash memory or small hard drive that can later be transferred to CD would be the answer. Keep in mind that the other big value of digital is that each transfer to another media is 100% identical in every way to the previous copy. Something analog could never do. |
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Can someone provide a brief overview of the frequency response characteristics of a good quality audio cassette tape compared with a recordable CD? No comparison at all. Digital is orders of magnitude better than cassette tape. You may see spec sheets that say a cassette recorder has 50-15,000 Hz response +/- 3 dB. However that is only true when recording at relatively low levels, such as 20 dB below Dolby level. At Dolby level the response might be 3 dB down at 8-10 KHz. Again, you might see a spec sheet that says a cassette recorder has 80 dB signal to noise (SNR), but that presumes that you are recording at such a high level that there is audible distortion. Also, that sort of SNR requires Dolby processing that exagerrates frequency response variations. The given frequency response specs are typically for Dolby off. Then there is the matter of the limited uninterupted recording time of cassette - usually no more than about 45 minutes. In contrast, a modern portable digital recorder such as a M-Audio Microtrack has response within a few tenths of a dB from 20 to as high as 40 KHz at all levels up within a fraction of a dB of full scale. Even at the highest levels you are likely to use, and all levels below that, there is zero audible distortion. Finally, there is no complicated processing like Dolby to goof up the basic response of the machine. Finally, with inexpensive 4 GB memory chips, uninterupted high quality recording for 6 to 20 hours at a time are possible. The limit to recording time is no longer the media but how many relatively small, light batteries you want to carry! I am interested in recording ambient nature sounds and would like to capture as much realism as possible. Good digital recorders are sonically transparent. That means that from the input jack to the output jack, there can be no reliably detectable audible change in the sound whatsoever. |
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![]() David King wrote: Can someone provide a brief overview of the frequency response characteristics of a good quality audio cassette tape compared with a recordable CD? Complete rubbish would be an adequate answer. You could do a little better with reel-to-reel tape but I wish you luck even finding the media for that these days ! Graham |
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Can someone provide a brief overview of the frequency response characteristics of a good quality audio cassette tape compared with a recordable CD? Any image of a mountain range will do just fine. I am interested in recording ambient nature sounds and would like to capture as much realism as possible. Zoom H2, based on the recordings I just edited from one its mics has a frequency response linearity that goes well with the rrp, but it had been deployed placed on a table, and such a placement will cause frequency response aberrations for any mic because of the surface reflections. Note: your initial question about cassette tape implicitly suggested the Zoom h2 because it is the current equivalent of a high quality portable casette recorder with the MAJOR difference that you just amplify it if it is underrecorded by 30 dB. David King Kind regards Peter Larsen |
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