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All of us have swapped gear in our systems over the years. Other than
room treatment or other space improvements, what piece of gear changed the sound of your system for the better to the largest degree? For me it was either changing a Micro Seiki TT/arm with Shure cartridge for the Oracle/Alphason/Dynavector combo in the 80s, or DCM Timewindows traded for Maggie MG IC speakers, also in the 80s. Yours? |
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, MiNe 109 wrote: In article om, Jenn wrote: All of us have swapped gear in our systems over the years. Other than room treatment or other space improvements, what piece of gear changed the sound of your system for the better to the largest degree? For me it was either changing a Micro Seiki TT/arm with Shure cartridge for the Oracle/Alphason/Dynavector combo in the 80s, or DCM Timewindows traded for Maggie MG IC speakers, also in the 80s. Yours? The LP12 was tons better than the Pioneer, and the Quads much more to my taste than the Kabers, but moving to an apartment with concrete floors and double drywall made the biggest change. Stephen Sure, makes sense. How are things in Austin? Sure would like to go there again. My friend Jerry Judkin (conductor at UT) is starting to shop around for new audio gear, speared on my the folks at Reference, for whom he records. He has a really good room to build it around. Isn't Absolute Sound's operations there now? |
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All of us have swapped gear in our systems over the years. Other than room treatment or other space improvements, what piece of gear changed the sound of your system for the better to the largest degree? Rane equalizer. |
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![]() "Jenn" wrote in message ... All of us have swapped gear in our systems over the years. Other than room treatment or other space improvements, what piece of gear changed the sound of your system for the better to the largest degree? For me it was either changing a Micro Seiki TT/arm with Shure cartridge for the Oracle/Alphason/Dynavector combo in the 80s, or DCM Timewindows traded for Maggie MG IC speakers, also in the 80s. Yours? It seems to me there is no such thing as a one-size-fits all system. So I switch speakers to suit my mood and the music to which I am listening. I have access to JBL, a remarkable pair of Kef K1 Monitors,Tannoy Golds and also B+W 801D. I agree with you that considerable improvement can be made with wise changes in a vinyl rig. I have recently acquired a turntable that I have dreamed of since I was a teenager - the EMT 948, with the EMT 929 tone arm, and an EMT cartridge type TSD15,or XSD15 http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...T948/EMT06.jpg This turntable is rather different in that it has built-in balanced line electronics, which means that it can be placed at distance from the main system. I cannot say it is better or worse than my Garrard 401/SME/V15II set up. But it is certainly different. The first vinyl pressing I played on it was Samuel Barber: Adagio for Strings. (Munchinger. Stuttgart Chamber Orchestra - Decca) Regards -- Iain Aural perception is a skill that requires study and careful development over a long period of time. Few have it as a natural gift. |
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On 26 Feb, 12:00, Jenn wrote:
All of us have swapped gear in our systems over the years. *Other than room treatment or other space improvements, what piece of gear changed the sound of your system for the better to the largest degree? For me it was either changing a Micro Seiki TT/arm with Shure cartridge for the Oracle/Alphason/Dynavector combo in the 80s, or DCM Timewindows traded for Maggie MG IC speakers, also in the 80s. Yours? a VPI record cleaning machine. my best sounding piece of equipment! |
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, Clyde Slick wrote: On 26 Feb, 12:00, Jenn wrote: All of us have swapped gear in our systems over the years. *Other than room treatment or other space improvements, what piece of gear changed the sound of your system for the better to the largest degree? For me it was either changing a Micro Seiki TT/arm with Shure cartridge for the Oracle/Alphason/Dynavector combo in the 80s, or DCM Timewindows traded for Maggie MG IC speakers, also in the 80s. Yours? a VPI record cleaning machine. my best sounding piece of equipment! Good point! |
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On Feb 26, 3:04*pm, Clyde Slick wrote:
a VPI record cleaning machine. *my best sounding piece of equipment! Which one do you have? I'm looking at a 16.5 right now, but the convenience of a 17 might be worth it. Have you compared them to Nitty Gritty? |
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![]() MiNe 109 said: Anthony Bourdain had his ears cleaned with wire in a Chinese tea shop on "No Reservations". He complained about it too, as is his wont. |
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Arny Krueger wrote:
Jenn wrote All of us have swapped gear in our systems over the years. Other than room treatment or other space improvements, what piece of gear changed the sound of your system for the better to the largest degree? Rane equalizer. Most likely due to collection of poorly recorded music and sound along with, without a doubt, aggravation from an unsuitable listening environment having unwavering and uncorrectable room acoustic. After treating the room and rearranging the space, have you tried other things before that ? What would be your advice to clients. |
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Mods? Ear syringing. Better yet, ear lavage using lukewarm water dabbled with peroxide. BeEn tHeRe! tHan ThAt! LoL! |
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Jenn wrote:
All of us have swapped gear in our systems over the years. Other than room treatment or other space improvements, what piece of gear changed the sound of your system for the better to the largest degree? For me it was either changing a Micro Seiki TT/arm with Shure cartridge for the Oracle/Alphason/Dynavector combo in the 80s, or DCM Timewindows traded for Maggie MG IC speakers, also in the 80s. Yours? Down-firing 15" subw powered with a matching out-board 400w amp. Velodyne. |
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![]() MiNe 109 said: Anthony Bourdain had his ears cleaned with wire in a Chinese tea shop on "No Reservations". He complained about it too, as is his wont. Can one say "skull ****" on the Travel Channel? He threatened to have his Russian friend (Zameer or something) boiled in oil as a result of that agonizing massage. |
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![]() MiNe 109 said: He threatened to have his Russian friend (Zameer or something) boiled in oil as a result of that agonizing massage. Zameer hurts his back pushing a car in this week's episode from Romania, revenge of sorts. Poetic justice .... or eerie supernatural meddling in human affairs? doo-doo-doo-doo... I think Bourdain said he'd quit smoking. I don't believe it. |
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On 26 Feb, 23:01, MiNe 109 wrote:
In article , *George M. Middius cmndr _ *george @ comcast . net wrote: MiNe 109 said: Anthony Bourdain had his ears cleaned with wire in a Chinese tea shop on "No Reservations". He complained about it too, as is his wont. Can one say "skull ****" on the Travel Channel? He threatened to have his Russian friend (Zameer or something) boiled in oil as a result of that agonizing massage. Zameer hurts his back pushing a car in this week's episode from Romania, revenge of sorts. That reminds me of Borat. The Romanian village of Glod is suing. If they win, they can afford to buy a second horse to pull their broken down Dacia (car). I've been in Glod, BTW. My car broke down coming down the mountain. We stored it in some villagers yard till we could get back with a lift truck to tote it back to Bucharest. Luckily it was protected by a friendly villager, and not strippede to the bones. When we were stuck halfway down the mountain, the local Sherriff Andy and his sidekick BArney drove by in his pickup, on patrol with his pregnant wife, no less. and told us we better get the car down the mountain before dark, or else tomorrow, we would find it stripped by local scavengers. So we coasted it down, my friends almost killed themselves going around a curve. they sent me down on some other truck that was going down the mountain, so i missed that adventure. Anyway its a strange village, the poorest and dirtiest, most low down village i have seen there. The residents are strange, sort of like gypsys, but something else. , sort of inbred looking.Its like a Romanian version of backwater West Virginai. The people su[pport themselves by collecting slate like rocks from the river bed. they stack them up out by the street, and sell them 'to passers by. what is "no reservations"? |
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![]() Clyde Slick said: what is "no reservations"? http://www.travelchannel.com/TV_Shows/Anthony_Bourdain You'll love this week's episode from Romania. (It's better if you've seen the other ones with Zameer.) |
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Middius cmndr _ george @ comcast . net says... I think Bourdain said he'd quit smoking. I don't believe it. I either read that, or saw that in an interview as well. I'd guess it's similar to someone I know who would "quit" smoking with alarming regularity. -- Bill |
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On 26 Feb, 23:59, George M. Middius cmndr _ george @ comcast . net
wrote: Clyde Slick said: what is "no reservations"? http://www.travelchannel.com/TV_Shows/Anthony_Bourdain You'll love this week's episode from Romania. (It's better if you've seen the other ones with Zameer.) Romanians love a particular Christmas treat. It is traditional to roast a whole pig. the favorite part is the skin, which is also deep fried in oill, horrible and tough as can be. I tell them we Americans have such a similar culinary treat. we call it a football. |
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Jenn wrote:
All of us have swapped gear in our systems over the years. Other than room treatment or other space improvements, what piece of gear changed the sound of your system for the better to the largest degree? For me it was either changing a Micro Seiki TT/arm with Shure cartridge for the Oracle/Alphason/Dynavector combo in the 80s, or DCM Timewindows traded for Maggie MG IC speakers, also in the 80s. Yours? So far speakers and next in line an amp. I don't even have a TT set up as of yet, but I'm making a place for it. if I thought I could get the control box repaired I would use the Micro Seiki table I have, otherwise it will be an old Phillips. -- "Yah know I hate it when forces gather in ma' fringe..." - Sheogorath "Daytime television sucked 20 years ago, and it still sucks today!" - Marc Bissonette |
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On Feb 26, 9:00 am, Jenn wrote: All of us have swapped gear in our systems over the years. Other than room treatment or other space improvements, what piece of gear changed the sound of your system for the better to the largest degree? What's this? Getting out of a dorm room doesn't count? I object. For me it was either changing a Micro Seiki TT/arm with Shure cartridge for the Oracle/Alphason/Dynavector combo in the 80s, or DCM Timewindows traded for Maggie MG IC speakers, also in the 80s. I agree that speakers will always be first. Legacy Focus for Advents, Quad 63s for the Legacy. Then a cart change MM Signet for MC AT OC9. I had a POS Hitachi CD player in the 80s whose model eludes me but silence was an improvement over that screecher. ScottW Yep I jsut changed out the Mirage M1's for Martin Logan reQuest's. Enormous difference. It proved to me all the people I asked who said "Electro-stats are crap!" either are tone deaf or never really heard them properly configured. -- "Yah know I hate it when forces gather in ma' fringe..." - Sheogorath "Daytime television sucked 20 years ago, and it still sucks today!" - Marc Bissonette |
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On 26 Feb, 23:59, George M. Middius cmndr _ george @ comcast . net wrote: Clyde Slick said: what is "no reservations"? http://www.travelchannel.com/TV_Shows/Anthony_Bourdain You'll love this week's episode from Romania. (It's better if you've seen the other ones with Zameer.) Romanians love a particular Christmas treat. It is traditional to roast a whole pig. the favorite part is the skin, which is also deep fried in oill, horrible and tough as can be. I tell them we Americans have such a similar culinary treat. we call it a football. Never had cracklings? -- "Yah know I hate it when forces gather in ma' fringe..." - Sheogorath "Daytime television sucked 20 years ago, and it still sucks today!" - Marc Bissonette |
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"JBorg, Jr." wrote: Jenn wrote: All of us have swapped gear in our systems over the years. Other than room treatment or other space improvements, what piece of gear changed the sound of your system for the better to the largest degree? For me it was either changing a Micro Seiki TT/arm with Shure cartridge for the Oracle/Alphason/Dynavector combo in the 80s, or DCM Timewindows traded for Maggie MG IC speakers, also in the 80s. Yours? Down-firing 15" subw powered with a matching out-board 400w amp. Velodyne. I see that there is a pair of Maggie MG3 with a Janis W-3 sub for sale at seems to be an excellent price. I've heard that it can be difficult to match Maggies with a woofer, but I'm sorely tempted by this. |
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![]() "Bret Ludwig" wrote in message ... http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...T948/EMT06.jpg This turntable is rather different in that it has built-in balanced line electronics, which means that it can be placed at distance from the main system. I cannot say it is better or worse than my Garrard 401/SME/V15II set up. But it is certainly different. The first vinyl pressing I played on it was Samuel Barber: Adagio for Strings. (Munchinger. Stuttgart Chamber Orchestra - Decca) One can easily build a small head amp to do the same thing with any table, although certainly EMT had the right idea. Who needs preamps any more? The EMT solution is a good one. The card rack includes a headphone amp, the two RIAA channels, with presets for alignment and also the motor servo board. There is even a spare slot which holds the extender board. 'Tis a wondrous machine:-) Iain |
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Jenn wrote:
JBorg, Jr.wrote: Jenn wrote: All of us have swapped gear in our systems over the years. Other than room treatment or other space improvements, what piece of gear changed the sound of your system for the better to the largest degree? For me it was either changing a Micro Seiki TT/arm with Shure cartridge for the Oracle/Alphason/Dynavector combo in the 80s, or DCM Timewindows traded for Maggie MG IC speakers, also in the 80s. Yours? Down-firing 15" subw powered with a matching out-board 400w amp. Velodyne. I see that there is a pair of Maggie MG3 with a Janis W-3 sub for sale at seems to be an excellent price. I've heard that it can be difficult to match Maggies with a woofer, but I'm sorely tempted by this. I don't have a first-hand listening experience with maggies which are magneplanar and flat panels. But I have a hybred electrostat which also has flat panels that are paired with a pea-sized 8" impotent woofer subjacent to the stators that produces no palpable thrust below and beyond the sultry bottom region. As with flat panels, more often than not, musically integrating the subwoofer with the main panel speakers is difficult. The initial settings I made had a distracting discontinuity in the musical fabric. Selecting hi-pass/low-pass filter at crossover points correctly is tricky. I spend hours after hours adjusting the freq. points. In my case, it's tiny chips labeled 30hz, 35hz, 40hz, .... up to 55hz, which I plugged inside the amps circuit board. Coincidently, I also have to rearrange the movable articles in the listening room. I never really got the optimum setting but the improvement were already there. The dynamic range and extension were greatly increased particularly at the bottom end. Much to my desire. |
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![]() "Jenn" wrote in message ... All of us have swapped gear in our systems over the years. Other than room treatment or other space improvements, what piece of gear changed the sound of your system for the better to the largest degree? For me it was either changing a Micro Seiki TT/arm with Shure cartridge for the Oracle/Alphason/Dynavector combo in the 80s, or DCM Timewindows traded for Maggie MG IC speakers, also in the 80s. Yours? 1. Good quality interconnects. 2. Replacing my Denon power amp (POA-2200) with an old Bryston 4B. My speakers are JBL XPL-200's and need more juice than the Denon could deliver. |
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"JBorg, Jr." wrote in message
. net Arny Krueger wrote: Jenn wrote All of us have swapped gear in our systems over the years. Other than room treatment or other space improvements, what piece of gear changed the sound of your system for the better to the largest degree? Rane equalizer. It is a MQ 302S. Most likely due to collection of poorly recorded music and sound along with, without a doubt, aggravation from an unsuitable listening environment having unwavering and uncorrectable room acoustic. Just wild speculation on your part, Borglet. I couldn't be using the equalizer to obtain improved levels of performance in a situation that most would find to be good enough, now could I? After treating the room and rearranging the space, have you tried other things before that ? A sentence that is absolute nonsense due to a looped time line. I'm going to do some speculative decoding with it and take a wild guess at its meaning. I think you are asking whether I tried other things before treating the room and rearranging it. The answer is that the room has been rearranged, redecorated, and rearranged many times. The speakers and electronics have gone through several generations of changes. What would be your advice to clients. Fix room acoustics first, equalize as needed to address issues with music sources, equipment, and finally the room. |
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On 27 Feb, 07:41, "Arny Krueger" wrote:
"JBorg, Jr." wrote in message . net Arny Krueger wrote: Jenn wrote All of us have swapped gear in our systems over the years. *Other than room treatment or other space improvements, what piece of gear changed the sound of your system for the better to the largest degree? Rane equalizer. It is a MQ 302S. Most likely due to collection of poorly recorded music and sound along with, without a doubt, aggravation from an unsuitable listening environment having unwavering and uncorrectable room acoustic. Just wild speculation on your part, Borglet. *I couldn't be using the equalizer to obtain improved levels of performance in a situation that most would find to be good enough, now could I? the equalizer is your best sounding piece because you can use it to dial out any particular out of tune singer in your church choir recordings. Not that there's anything left after that. |
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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
On 27 Feb, 07:41, "Arny Krueger" wrote: "JBorg, Jr." wrote in message . net Arny Krueger wrote: Jenn wrote All of us have swapped gear in our systems over the years. Other than room treatment or other space improvements, what piece of gear changed the sound of your system for the better to the largest degree? Rane equalizer. It is a MQ 302S. Most likely due to collection of poorly recorded music and sound along with, without a doubt, aggravation from an unsuitable listening environment having unwavering and uncorrectable room acoustic. Just wild speculation on your part, Borglet. I couldn't be using the equalizer to obtain improved levels of performance in a situation that most would find to be good enough, now could I? the equalizer is your best sounding piece... I never said any such thing, and this question is not even a reasonable question in this context. Audio systems are just that - systems. The various pieces all require each other to make sound. There is no best sounding piece of equipment in a system. You would have to take each component out of the system to evaluate that, and then you would be avoiding possible synergistic interactions. Note the title of the thread, it is not the same as "what is your best sounding component". |
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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
On 27 Feb, 09:10, "Arny Krueger" wrote: "Clyde Slick" wrote in message On 27 Feb, 07:41, "Arny Krueger" wrote: "JBorg, Jr." wrote in message . net Arny Krueger wrote: Jenn wrote All of us have swapped gear in our systems over the years. Other than room treatment or other space improvements, what piece of gear changed the sound of your system for the better to the largest degree? Rane equalizer. It is a MQ 302S. Most likely due to collection of poorly recorded music and sound along with, without a doubt, aggravation from an unsuitable listening environment having unwavering and uncorrectable room acoustic. Just wild speculation on your part, Borglet. I couldn't be using the equalizer to obtain improved levels of performance in a situation that most would find to be good enough, now could I? the equalizer is your best sounding piece... I never said any such thing, and this question is not even a reasonable question in this context. Audio systems are just that - systems. The various pieces all require each other to make sound. There is no best sounding piece of equipment in a system. You would have to take each component out of the system to evaluate that, and then you would be avoiding possible synergistic interactions. Note the title of the thread, it is not the same as "what is your best sounding component".- go play with Borg. sorry Borg, but I just had to get rid of him. |
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On 27 Feb, 09:10, "Arny Krueger" wrote:
"Clyde Slick" wrote in message On 27 Feb, 07:41, "Arny Krueger" wrote: "JBorg, Jr." wrote in message y.net Arny Krueger wrote: Jenn wrote All of us have swapped gear in our systems over the years. Other than room treatment or other space improvements, what piece of gear changed the sound of your system for the better to the largest degree? Rane equalizer. It is a MQ 302S. Most likely due to collection of poorly recorded music and sound along with, without a doubt, aggravation from an unsuitable listening environment having unwavering and uncorrectable room acoustic. Just wild speculation on your part, Borglet. I couldn't be using the equalizer to obtain improved levels of performance in a situation that most would find to be good enough, now could I? the equalizer is your best sounding piece... I never said any such thing, and this question is not even a reasonable question in this context. Audio systems are just that - systems. The various pieces all require each other to make sound. There is no best sounding piece of equipment in a system. You would have to take each component out of the system to evaluate that, and then you would be avoiding possible synergistic interactions. Note the title of the thread, it is not the same as "what is your best sounding component".- go play with Borg. sorry Borg, but I just had to get rid of him. |
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![]() MiNe 109 said: I think Bourdain said he'd quit smoking. I don't believe it. Fatherhood can be inspiring, but, yeah, I'm skeptical. Bourdain reproduced? He's been grousing about being old and decrepit for quite a while. Next he'll tell us he's gone totally dry. Who's the alleged mommy, anyway? |
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![]() "MiNe 109" wrote in message ... In article , Signal wrote: Jenn wrote: All of us have swapped gear in our systems over the years. Other than room treatment or other space improvements, what piece of gear changed the sound of your system for the better to the largest degree? For me it was either changing a Micro Seiki TT/arm with Shure cartridge for the Oracle/Alphason/Dynavector combo in the 80s, or DCM Timewindows traded for Maggie MG IC speakers, also in the 80s. Gear? JM Labs. Mods? Ear syringing. When I was a kid I read about this being performed on members (or, more specifically, ears) of the Who. It was quite a relief to discover what the procedure really entailed. It's part of the annual medical for most of us working in studios or broadcast. Many employers want to see an audiogram also. Iain |
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"JBorg, Jr." wrote: Jenn wrote: JBorg, Jr.wrote: Jenn wrote: All of us have swapped gear in our systems over the years. Other than room treatment or other space improvements, what piece of gear changed the sound of your system for the better to the largest degree? For me it was either changing a Micro Seiki TT/arm with Shure cartridge for the Oracle/Alphason/Dynavector combo in the 80s, or DCM Timewindows traded for Maggie MG IC speakers, also in the 80s. Yours? Down-firing 15" subw powered with a matching out-board 400w amp. Velodyne. I see that there is a pair of Maggie MG3 with a Janis W-3 sub for sale at seems to be an excellent price. I've heard that it can be difficult to match Maggies with a woofer, but I'm sorely tempted by this. I don't have a first-hand listening experience with maggies which are magneplanar and flat panels. But I have a hybred electrostat which also has flat panels that are paired with a pea-sized 8" impotent woofer subjacent to the stators that produces no palpable thrust below and beyond the sultry bottom region. As with flat panels, more often than not, musically integrating the subwoofer with the main panel speakers is difficult. The initial settings I made had a distracting discontinuity in the musical fabric. Selecting hi-pass/low-pass filter at crossover points correctly is tricky. I spend hours after hours adjusting the freq. points. In my case, it's tiny chips labeled 30hz, 35hz, 40hz, .... up to 55hz, which I plugged inside the amps circuit board. Coincidently, I also have to rearrange the movable articles in the listening room. I never really got the optimum setting but the improvement were already there. The dynamic range and extension were greatly increased particularly at the bottom end. Much to my desire. Thanks. Does anyone here have thoughts about integrating Maggies with a good woofer (like I've heard the Janis is)? |
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Thanks. Does anyone here have thoughts about integrating Maggies with a good woofer (like I've heard the Janis is)? It is very difficult to integrate speakers that have vastly differing directivities. The maggies are bipolar radiators in their bass range. A bipolar subwoofer seems to be the better choice: http://www.pinnaclespeakers.com/products.html |
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![]() MiNe 109 said: Bourdain reproduced? He's been grousing about being old and decrepit for quite a while. Next he'll tell us he's gone totally dry. Who's the alleged mommy, anyway? Ottavia Busia, according to wiki. Some blogger says she's the woman who accompanied him in his visit to Miami Ink and who called his Italian food "disgusting" in the Tuscany "No Reservations". That was a funny one. The Italians had a cow because Bourdain tried making spaghetti carbonara using (gasp!) linguine. |
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On Feb 27, 8:39*am, Clyde Slick wrote:
Notare il titolo del filetto, esso non è lo stessi del *" che cosa è il vostro migliore component" suonante;. - Post like this again and ti Rompo il Culo. |
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Arny Krueger wrote:
JBorg, Jr. wrote Arny Krueger wrote: Jenn wrote All of us have swapped gear in our systems over the years. Other than room treatment or other space improvements, what piece of gear changed the sound of your system for the better to the largest degree? Rane equalizer. It is a MQ 302S. Most likely due to collection of poorly recorded music and sound along with, without a doubt, aggravation from an unsuitable listening environment having unwavering and uncorrectable room acoustic. Just wild speculation on your part, Borglet. I couldn't be using the equalizer to obtain improved levels of performance in a situation that most would find to be good enough, now could I? Well yes, but you admitted below that the reasons you desire to obtain improved performance using equalizer was decided upon after you rearranged, redecorated, and rearranged your room many times. Why would you imply that your situation would be good enough for most when, in fact, you have to drastically rearranged your room and still, utilize equalizer to improved your situation. Exactly, how would most people find your situation good enough ? After treating the room and rearranging the space, have you tried other things before that ? A sentence that is absolute nonsense due to a looped time line. I'm going to do some speculative decoding with it and take a wild guess at its meaning. I think you are asking whether I tried other things before treating the room and rearranging it. [...] I said, have you tried other things AFTER treating the room and space. The answer is that the room has been rearranged, redecorated, and rearranged many times. he speakers and electronics have gone through several generations of changes. So yes, you arrange and rearrange your room and failing that -- you decided to utilize an equalizer.to ameliorate your poor listening environment. OR, did you wished to incorporate Rane equalizer into your system firsthand and then, decided to rearrange the hell out of your room in order to easily equalize your equalizer ? ???? What would be your advice to clients. Fix room acoustics first, equalize as needed to address issues with music sources, equipment, and finally the room. Was you intention to use Rane equalizer to compensate for your poorly designed listening environment or, to address issues you have with your poorly recorded music sources ? |
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"JBorg, Jr." wrote in message
t Arny Krueger wrote: JBorg, Jr. wrote Arny Krueger wrote: Jenn wrote All of us have swapped gear in our systems over the years. Other than room treatment or other space improvements, what piece of gear changed the sound of your system for the better to the largest degree? Rane equalizer. It is a MQ 302S. Most likely due to collection of poorly recorded music and sound along with, without a doubt, aggravation from an unsuitable listening environment having unwavering and uncorrectable room acoustic. Just wild speculation on your part, Borglet. I couldn't be using the equalizer to obtain improved levels of performance in a situation that most would find to be good enough, now could I? Well yes, Thank you. but you admitted below that the reasons you desire to obtain improved performance using equalizer was decided upon after you rearranged, redecorated, and rearranged your room many times. What's wrong with that? Why would you imply that your situation would be good enough for most when, in fact, you have to drastically rearranged your room and still, utilize equalizer to improved your situation. Every approach has its limits. The more relevant approaches you apply to the difficult proposition of properly reproducing music, the better the results, no? Exactly, how would most people find your situation good enough ? Obviously, it sounded good enough for most people, even picky people. After treating the room and rearranging the space, have you tried other things before that ? A sentence that is absolute nonsense due to a looped time line. I'm going to do some speculative decoding with it and take a wild guess at its meaning. I think you are asking whether I tried other things before treating the room and rearranging it. [...] I said, have you tried other things AFTER treating the room and space. What you said before that made the whole run-on into a big train wreck. The answer is that the room has been rearranged, redecorated, and rearranged many times. he speakers and electronics have gone through several generations of changes. So yes, you arrange and rearrange your room and failing that -- No, having obtained some but not yet enough success to satisfy me... you decided to utilize an equalizer.to ameliorate your poor listening environment. Why would it necessarily be poor? OR, did you wished to incorporate Rane equalizer into your system firsthand and then, decided to rearrange the hell out of your room in order to easily equalize your equalizer ? No, the Rane is a fairly recent addition, but not the first equalizer to be used in that system. What would be your advice to clients. Fix room acoustics first, equalize as needed to address issues with music sources, equipment, and finally the room. Was you intention to use Rane equalizer to compensate for your poorly designed listening environment or, to address issues you have with your poorly recorded music sources ? Who says that either is the reason why I added the Rane? |
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Clyde Slick wrote:
Arny Krueger wrote: Just wild speculation on your part, Borglet. I couldn't be using the equalizer to obtain improved levels of performance in a situation that most would find to be good enough, now could I? the equalizer is your best sounding piece because you can use it to dial out any particular out of tune singer in your church choir recordings. Not that there's anything left after that. I have the feeling that since our system are good enough, he feels it necessary to add rane equalizer in his because it makes him feel special. |
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