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Hi!
Would appreciate some help. Was thinking of using a tube car radio at home. Specs read current consumption 1.5A (at .5W). The fuse is 5A. DC power supply should be at least 1.5A but can I go up to 4A without harming the radio? Not sure if I would gain any improvement in sound. Thanks! Please cc: my email address if possible. Louis |
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On Jan 27, 4:45*am, lou wrote:
Hi! Would appreciate some help. Was thinking of using a tube car radio at home. Specs read current consumption 1.5A (at .5W). The fuse is 5A. DC power supply should be at least 1.5A but can I go up to 4A without harming the radio? Not sure if I would gain any improvement in sound. Thanks! Please cc: my email address if possible. Louis Amperage will have no effect on the radio - with the presumption that you fuse it correctly so that the fuse burns before it does if some sort of internal short happens. Note that most tube-type car radios have a vibrator to make B+ through a transformer - be sure that it is working properly, and/or has been replaced with a SS type. When they fail it can be quite spectacular especially if not properly fused. Gary Taymen from the "other" group (rec.antiques.radio+phono) will give you many further details on vintage car radios. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA |
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On Jan 27, 7:53*pm, Bret Ludwig wrote:
*Usually people prefer to use a external or stuff-it-in-there AC supply with a regular B+ and filament supply and not run the vibrator, when using car tube radios for regular indoor use. Elsewise you will need a beefy supply that will usually be inefficient and take up a lot of space. *Old Sears Schumacher battery chargers make nice DC supplies, by the way Try reading the OP... . And someone sophisticated enough to have a VPS to make the B+ would not be making such a post. So, answer the direct question, don't dispute the direct answer - as to the requirement of the P/S, if it makes 1.5A @ 13.6V. it will do just fine, any of several supplies from the likes of even Radio Shack are capable of that. No need to use a battery charger which are not known for being particularly quiet in this sort of application. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA |
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On Jan 27, 8:17 pm, Peter Wieck wrote:
On Jan 27, 7:53 pm, Bret Ludwig wrote: Usually people prefer to use a external or stuff-it-in-there AC supply with a regular B+ and filament supply and not run the vibrator, when using car tube radios for regular indoor use. Elsewise you will need a beefy supply that will usually be inefficient and take up a lot of space. Old Sears Schumacher battery chargers make nice DC supplies, by the way Try reading the OP... . And someone sophisticated enough to have a VPS to make the B+ would not be making such a post. So, answer the direct question, don't dispute the direct answer - as to the requirement of the P/S, if it makes 1.5A @ 13.6V. it will do just fine, any of several supplies from the likes of even Radio Shack are capable of that. No need to use a battery charger which are not known for being particularly quiet in this sort of application. Assuming he is talking about building a regular transformer B+ and filament supply instead of a regulated lab supply, I'm with Bret on this one. Linear regulated supplies are very inefficient. If you are using a typical variable bench supply to provide 6 or 12 volts you are looking at 30 to 60 percent efficiency at the terminals of the supply , plus the substantial inefficiency of the vibrator pack supply. In contrast an unregulated transformer B+ supply is about 75 percent efficient and if the heater chain can be run on AC 85 percent efficiency is possible if not more. If, like me, you are a heavy radio listener the power bill will add up fast. To build such a supply you will need a conventional power transformer , some diodes and filter caps plus a choke or a power resistor (the choke is more efficient). Most 1945-55 car radios will run on about the same B+ current as a Fender Princeton or Super Champ amplifier. A new power transformer for one of these can be had for $30 or less. The diodes are a few cents each (I like to series and parallel them for redundancy with series resistors) and filter caps if you use PCB types a couple bucks. Seven or eight bucks for the choke. Considering the saved A/C load in the summer it will pay for itself in a year or two versus the power draw if a big old high current HP or Lambda supply is used even if you already have the supply. Of course you can creatively use salvaged transformers as well. A cheat is to get a one piece prebuilt supply out of certain surplus military equipment. |
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lou wrote: Hi! Would appreciate some help. Was thinking of using a tube car radio at home. Specs read current consumption 1.5A (at .5W). The fuse is 5A. DC power supply should be at least 1.5A but can I go up to 4A without harming the radio? Any load will draw only as much current as it needs. You can't 'force' current into a load because the label says 4A instead of 1.5A. It's a popular misconception. Graham |
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On Jan 27, 11:37*pm, RapidRonnie wrote:
*Assuming he is talking about building a regular transformer B+ and filament supply instead of a regulated lab supply, I'm with Bret on this one. Assuming that, sure. But I believe the OP is requesting an opinion of whether a 4A @ (nominal) 12V rated power-supply will run his radio with a nominal load of 1.5A. It will. If he wants to go further at it, then perhaps he should get into a more sophisticated approach. But, again, from the OP, it appears that he wants to run a tube car radio as a tube car radio, but inside his house, not inside his vehicle. For whatever reason a simple 12V P/S will do the trick right off the shelf without agony. My suggestion to him was to be sure of the mechanics and electrics of the radio - but not necessarily to mess with it beyond that. Pays you money, takes you chances. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA |
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