[vlmarcor]

I'd like some headphone recommendations for an older person with damaged
hearing who has trouble hearing the television. The person hears better when
you adjust an equalizer with a certain pattern of mid and high frequencies.
However, some mid and high frequencies if too loud are painful.

[William Sommerwerck]

The possibility of a finding a headphone with the required response (which
you haven't specified) is slim-to-nil.

You might look at one of those little $15 amplifiers with earphones.

[Arny Krueger]

"vlmarcor" wrote in message


I'd like some headphone recommendations for an older
person with damaged hearing who has trouble hearing the
television. The person hears better when you adjust an
equalizer with a certain pattern of mid and high
frequencies. However, some mid and high frequencies if
too loud are painful.

Forget about wine-tasting headphones. Instead get some good flat ones (e.g.
Shure) and obtain and learn how to use an equalizer.

[Laurence Payne]

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:56:46 -0500, "vlmarcor"
wrote:

I'd like some headphone recommendations for an older person with damaged
hearing who has trouble hearing the television. The person hears better when
you adjust an equalizer with a certain pattern of mid and high frequencies.
However, some mid and high frequencies if too loud are painful.

Choose a set of headphones that he finds comfortable. Take Line Out
of the TV into an old hi-fi amplifier and hook in an equaliser.
Something like:
http://www.studiospares.com/pd_36890...EQUALISER.htm#
should do the job. Or look in second-hand shops. Equalisers were a
common toy in domestic hi-fi 20 years ago, but have fallen out of
fashion.

[Scott Dorsey]

vlmarcor wrote:
I'd like some headphone recommendations for an older person with damaged
hearing who has trouble hearing the television. The person hears better when
you adjust an equalizer with a certain pattern of mid and high frequencies.
However, some mid and high frequencies if too loud are painful.

What is that pattern?
Does the person have recruitment?
Have they tried a compressor in front of the headphones?
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Peter Larsen[_2_]]

vlmarcor wrote:

I'd like some headphone recommendations for an older person with
damaged hearing who has trouble hearing the television. The person
hears better when you adjust an equalizer with a certain pattern of
mid and high frequencies. However, some mid and high frequencies if
too loud are painful.

Use an open Sennheiser, turn down the bass with a classic tone control to
prevent the low range from masking the high range, done. Do not address this
by boosting unless you also have a multiband limiter in circuit as in
digital hearing aids. Reportedly those are getting good enough for live
classical music events by now ....


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

[Richard Crowley]

"vlmarcor" wrote ...
I'd like some headphone recommendations for an older person with damaged
hearing who has trouble hearing the television. The person hears better
when you adjust an equalizer with a certain pattern of mid and high
frequencies. However, some mid and high frequencies if too loud are
painful.

I believe that modern (digital) hearing-aids have programmable
(octave? parametric?) equalization so they can be customized
for the hearing loss of the user's ear(s).

Not clear why improvement in hearing should be limited to
hearing the television?

[Russell Dawkins]

If he's not using a hearing aid, then a pair of Etymotic Research (any
model) should do the job. EQ might not be necessary if enough clean
level is available, after all, he has become used to hearing the world
with a skewed frequency response. I have found that a headphone
capable of good clean high level output worked with a friend who was
nearly deaf from a lifetime of playing in big bands. In his case it
was a pair of Audio Technical ATM H40s, but I imagine the ATM H50s
would work or almost any Grados, at the expense of the peace of anyone
in the vicinity.

[vlmarcor]

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
. ..
"vlmarcor" wrote in message


I'd like some headphone recommendations for an older
person with damaged hearing who has trouble hearing the
television. The person hears better when you adjust an
equalizer with a certain pattern of mid and high
frequencies. However, some mid and high frequencies if
too loud are painful.

Forget about wine-tasting headphones. Instead get some good flat ones
(e.g. Shure) and obtain and learn how to use an equalizer.

Thanks Arny for responding. Would you know of any models of flat response
shure or other
headphones which you would recommend as well as which model equalizer would
be adequate?

[Arny Krueger]

"vlmarcor" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
. ..
"vlmarcor" wrote in message


I'd like some headphone recommendations for an older
person with damaged hearing who has trouble hearing the
television. The person hears better when you adjust an
equalizer with a certain pattern of mid and high
frequencies. However, some mid and high frequencies if
too loud are painful.

Forget about wine-tasting headphones. Instead get some
good flat ones (e.g. Shure) and obtain and learn how to
use an equalizer.

Thanks Arny for responding. Would you know of any models
of flat response shure or other
headphones which you would recommend as well as which
model equalizer would be adequate?

I was thinking about the Shure IEMs when I wrote that. If an IEM-type
earphone is not desired, then headphones like Sennheiser HD 580 or Audio
Technica ATH-M50 would be good alternatives.

[vlmarcor]

"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
...
vlmarcor wrote:
I'd like some headphone recommendations for an older person with damaged
hearing who has trouble hearing the television. The person hears better
when
you adjust an equalizer with a certain pattern of mid and high
frequencies.
However, some mid and high frequencies if too loud are painful.

What is that pattern?
Does the person have recruitment?
Have they tried a compressor in front of the headphones?
--scott
--

I'm not sure if they have recruitment. Though normal environmental volume
does not generally
affect the person in a detrimental way. It's only loud volumes of particular
types of frequencies, probably the
highs or mids though I don't know which frequency exactly, which are
painful.

No I have not tried a compressor, I'm not exactly sure what it would do or
how to use it. Right now I have tried
an amplifier with a 5 band equalizer connected to the tv with extra speakers
connected to the tv this seems to help.
Although the person still has trouble hearing everything on the tv. They
only hear 70% of what's being said in a
movie or program. They have trouble hearing human vocals rather than musical
instruments. They have trouble
hearing what people are saying on the phone or even in normal face to face
conversations. They enjoy and can
hear well apparently a musical concert on tv. I was looking through reviews
of various headphones
and I was wondering if any of you would recommend the AKG K240 headphone for
this person.

[vlmarcor]

"Richard Crowley" wrote in message
...
"vlmarcor" wrote ...
I'd like some headphone recommendations for an older person with damaged
hearing who has trouble hearing the television. The person hears better
when you adjust an equalizer with a certain pattern of mid and high
frequencies. However, some mid and high frequencies if too loud are
painful.

I believe that modern (digital) hearing-aids have programmable
(octave? parametric?) equalization so they can be customized
for the hearing loss of the user's ear(s).

Not clear why improvement in hearing should be limited to
hearing the television?


The person has inquired about getting hearing aids, however the really
effective ones cost in the thousands which the person cannot afford.

[vlmarcor]

"Peter Larsen" wrote in message
...
vlmarcor wrote:

I'd like some headphone recommendations for an older person with
damaged hearing who has trouble hearing the television. The person
hears better when you adjust an equalizer with a certain pattern of
mid and high frequencies. However, some mid and high frequencies if
too loud are painful.

Use an open Sennheiser, turn down the bass with a classic tone control to
prevent the low range from masking the high range, done. Do not address
this by boosting unless you also have a multiband limiter in circuit as in
digital hearing aids. Reportedly those are getting good enough for live
classical music events by now ....


Kind regards

Peter Larsen


Which sennheiser would you recommend? I was considering the AKG K240.
What do you think of this headphone? Right now I have tried a Jvc amplifier
with a 5 band equalizer connected to a sony 32" vega tv with extra speakers
connected to the tv. This seems to help. Although the person still has
trouble
hearing vocals on the tv. They only hear 70% of what's being said in a
movie or program. They have trouble hearing human vocals rather than musical
instruments. They have trouble hearing what people are saying on the phone
or
even in normal face to face conversations. They enjoy, and can hear well
apparently,
a musical concert on tv. The person has inquired about getting hearing aids,
however, the really effective ones cost in the thousands of dollars, which
the person cannot afford.

[vlmarcor]

"Laurence Payne" NOSPAMlpayne1ATdsl.pipex.com wrote in message
...
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:56:46 -0500, "vlmarcor"
wrote:

I'd like some headphone recommendations for an older person with damaged
hearing who has trouble hearing the television. The person hears better
when
you adjust an equalizer with a certain pattern of mid and high
frequencies.
However, some mid and high frequencies if too loud are painful.

Choose a set of headphones that he finds comfortable. Take Line Out
of the TV into an old hi-fi amplifier and hook in an equaliser.
Something like:
http://www.studiospares.com/pd_36890...EQUALISER.htm#
should do the job. Or look in second-hand shops. Equalisers were a
common toy in domestic hi-fi 20 years ago, but have fallen out of
fashion.


Right now I have tried a Jvc amplifier with a 5 band equalizer connected to
a sony 32"
vega tv with extra speakers connected to the tv. This seems to help.
Although the person
still has trouble hearing vocals on the tv. They only hear 70% of what's
being said in a
movie or program. They have trouble hearing human vocals rather than musical
instruments. They have trouble hearing what people are saying on the phone
or even in normal face to face conversations. They enjoy, and can hear well
apparently, a musical concert on tv. The person has inquired about getting
hearing aids,
however, the really effective ones cost in the thousands of dollars, which
the person cannot afford. I was wondering if using a pair of headphones with
this
amplifier might not help. Specifically, I'm presentlyt considering the AKG
K240
headphones. What do you think of this headphone for helping this person hear
more of the conversation on tv?

[Scott Dorsey]

vlmarcor wrote:

I'm not sure if they have recruitment. Though normal environmental volume
does not generally
affect the person in a detrimental way. It's only loud volumes of particular
types of frequencies, probably the
highs or mids though I don't know which frequency exactly, which are
painful.

That is typical of one kind of recruitment and I don't recall the medical
term for it offhand.

The solution for that is a frequency-dependant compressor which can be set
up to squash the particular frequency range that is a problem. An old
Orban de-esser would probably be the first thing I'd try.

You may very well be able to just get away with wideband compression with
an RNC in Super-Nice mode, though.

No I have not tried a compressor, I'm not exactly sure what it would do or
how to use it. Right now I have tried
an amplifier with a 5 band equalizer connected to the tv with extra speakers
connected to the tv this seems to help.

A compressor makes soft sounds louder and loud sounds softer. By crushing
dynamics, it makes it easier with people who have hearing problems that
relate to dynamic changes to hear.

Although the person still has trouble hearing everything on the tv. They
only hear 70% of what's being said in a
movie or program. They have trouble hearing human vocals rather than musical
instruments. They have trouble
hearing what people are saying on the phone or even in normal face to face
conversations. They enjoy and can
hear well apparently a musical concert on tv.

So how have you set the 5-band equalizer to help?

I was looking through reviews
of various headphones
and I was wondering if any of you would recommend the AKG K240 headphone for
this person.

Sure, it's more or less roughly flat, and the person probably doesn't have
much hearing in the top couple octaves anyway. If you can send me a real
audiogram and some information about the range that is the problem, it would
help a lot.

On the other hand, if the problem is that the person has an upper midrange
hearing deficit and you're using the equalizer to crank that range up so
high the system goes into clipping, that's another issue.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Peter Larsen[_2_]]

vlmarcor wrote:

I'd like some headphone recommendations for an older person with
damaged hearing who has trouble hearing the television. The person
hears better when you adjust an equalizer with a certain pattern of
mid and high frequencies. However, some mid and high frequencies if
too loud are painful.

Use an open Sennheiser, turn down the bass with a classic tone
control to prevent the low range from masking the high range, done.
Do not address this by boosting unless you also have a multiband
limiter in circuit as in digital hearing aids. Reportedly those are
getting good enough for live classical music events by now ....

Which sennheiser would you recommend?

Frankly I am not up to date on their current models, I have an older version
of their big flat ones, and it is characterized by a very smooth upper range
and a non-resonant bass range.

I was considering the AKG K240.
What do you think of this headphone?

It would be unfair of me to comment on it. What you need to understand is
that hearing discomfort and do. damage is about the actual sound volume, not
about the perceived sound volume. Since the person you inquire on behaft of
has a problem with annoyance from "some high range" it is possible to me
that this is because of a response of whatever playback system it is
experienced with peaking peaky in that range.

Right now I have tried a Jvc
amplifier with a 5 band equalizer connected to a sony 32" vega tv
with extra speakers connected to the tv. This seems to help.

A classic JVC 5 band is not a poor choice. Lower 250 Hz range 6 dB and the
50 Hz range 4 dB and boost 1 kHz 2 dB. IF you boost the high ranges a bit
then do it with caution.

Although the person still has trouble
hearing vocals on the tv. They only hear 70% of what's being said in a
movie or program. They have trouble hearing human vocals rather than
musical instruments.

The simplest explanation is that this is a masking issue, one that is caused
by impulse noise damage having raised the 6 kHz threshold more than 40 dB. 6
kHz is the most probable hearing damage frequency, for some reason hearing
damage spot checks focus on 4 and 8 kHz. The determining issue - in terms of
impulse noise damage - is what frequency range the ear canal amplifies most
for the actual person, the larger the ear canal the lower the center
frequency of the damage. However it would be quackery to say that "so is the
case", loss of ability to understand speech may not be only about the ears
sensory capability, the issue is a wee bit - or hugely - more complex.

They have trouble hearing what people are saying
on the phone or even in normal face to face conversations. They enjoy, and
can hear
well apparently, a musical concert on tv.

Now it is not one person, it is multiple persons ... ??? ... anyway, that
complaint is indicative of the probable threshold shift at 4 khz being
larger than 40 db according to an article about hearing loss in the magazine
Studio Sound.

You need to understand that a 40 dB threshold shift does not necessitate a
40 dB boost, a threshold is literally that.

The person has inquired about getting
hearing aids, however, the really effective ones cost in the
thousands of dollars, which the person cannot afford.

This is very bad, sound engineering can help with the perception, but this
is not the turf of a sound engineer, it is the turf of an ENT or an
audiologist, at the very least to confirm that there is a threshold shift
that _is_ consistent with the reported problems with understanding speech.
There is a very large range of hearing aids on the market, what really costs
is to have multiple listening scenario options, a professional opinion on
this would probably be well adviced.

The newsgroup alt.support.tinnitus is largely defunct now after multiple
years of troll infestation, but it may still be worthwile to ask for
suggestions over there, or it may be a complete waste of time.


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

[Arny Krueger]

"vlmarcor" wrote in message

"Peter Larsen" wrote in message
...
vlmarcor wrote:

I'd like some headphone recommendations for an older
person with damaged hearing who has trouble hearing the
television. The person hears better when you adjust an
equalizer with a certain pattern of mid and high
frequencies. However, some mid and high frequencies if
too loud are painful.

Use an open Sennheiser, turn down the bass with a
classic tone control to prevent the low range from
masking the high range, done. Do not address this by
boosting unless you also have a multiband limiter in
circuit as in digital hearing aids. Reportedly those are
getting good enough for live classical music events by
now ....

Which sennheiser would you recommend? I was considering
the AKG K240.

Why?

What do you think of this headphone?

I don't like them.

Right now I have
tried a Jvc amplifier with a 5 band equalizer connected
to a sony 32" vega tv with extra speakers connected to
the tv. This seems to help.

The weak spot is the 5 band equalizer. If you are serious about
equalization, you will upgrade your equalization technique.

Although the person still has
trouble hearing vocals on the tv. They only hear 70% of what's
being said in a movie or program. They have trouble
hearing human vocals rather than musical instruments.
They have trouble hearing what people are saying on the
phone or even in normal face to face conversations. They enjoy,
and can hear well apparently, a musical concert on tv. The person has
inquired about
getting hearing aids, however, the really effective ones
cost in the thousands of dollars, which the person cannot
afford.

Expensive hearing aids are composed of a pretty fair microphone, a
subminiature DSP, and a pretty fair IEM. They are often compromised so that
they are small and inconspicious.

The DSP usually implements a field-configurable collection of parametric
equalizers and dynamics processors.

[William Sommerwerck]

"vlmarcor" wrote in message
...

Which sennheiser would you recommend?

If you're using an equalizer, the particular phone is not so importtant,
simply because you've got EQ to get the response you want.

The Sennheiser PX100s might be a good choice. They're lightweight,
comfortable, and though reasonably detailed, are a bit "dark" at the top
end.


I was considering the AKG K240.

If you can get one for free, it might not be a bad choice. But...

I used to review headphones for Stereophile. Of all those I reviewed, AKGs
were the only brand that was 100% consistently poor. I never heard a model
that either sounded good, or represented value for the money. The K1000 was
a honking disaster, and I'm proud to say that my unfavorable review
(apparently) kept the K1000 out of the US. (I hope the current version has
fixed the earlier model's problems.)

I mentioned this the other day to John Curl, and he started laughing
uncontrollably. He, too, agreed, that he'd never heard good AKG headphones.
Why the K240 is so popular among recording engineers is beyond my
understanding. It's not only excessively colored, it's not particularly
clean.

[William Sommerwerck]

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
. ..

Which sennheiser would you recommend? I was considering
the AKG K240.

Why?

What do you think of this headphone?

I don't like them.

Armageddon must be approaching. Arny and I agree on something!

[Phildo]

"William Sommerwerck" wrote in message
. ..
"vlmarcor" wrote in message
...

Which sennheiser would you recommend?

If you're using an equalizer, the particular phone is not so importtant,
simply because you've got EQ to get the response you want.

It's a 5 band EQ so it doing more harm than good and is better off removed
from the signal chain.

Phildo

[Phildo]

"William Sommerwerck" wrote in message
. ..
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
. ..
What do you think of this headphone?

I don't like them.

Armageddon must be approaching. Arny and I agree on something!

Don't worry, it happens to everyone every now and then. Is to do with
Shakespeare having an infinite number of monkeys with typewriters come up
with all his plays for him or something like that. Arny puts out so much
garbage that he does eventually get it right once in a while, especially if
he actually sticks to talking about something he has knowledge and
experience of (i.e. NOT live sound).

Phildo

[Peter Larsen[_2_]]

Phildo wrote:

If you're using an equalizer, the particular phone is not so
importtant, simply because you've got EQ to get the response you
want.

Bad delayed resonaance problems can not be equalized away.

It's a 5 band EQ so it doing more harm than good and is better off
removed from the signal chain.

In this very special context I think a 5 band is a good choice, since it is
about overall tonal balance and because of ease of adjustment.

Phildo


kind regards

Peter Larsen

[William Sommerwerck]

In this very special context I think a 5 band is a good choice, since
it is about overall tonal balance and because of ease of adjustment.

Actually, the more bands an equalizer has, the easier it is to adjust.

[Arny Krueger]

"William Sommerwerck" wrote in
message

In this very special context I think a 5 band is a good
choice, since it is about overall tonal balance and
because of ease of adjustment.

Actually, the more bands an equalizer has, the easier it
is to adjust.

I agree. Too many bands starts somewhat north of 30.

I think its fair play to adjust adjacent bands in groups, for the first cut.

However, I'll take less knobs on a parametric over more knobs on a graphic.

[Peter Larsen[_2_]]

William Sommerwerck wrote:

In this very special context I think a 5 band is a good choice, since
it is about overall tonal balance and because of ease of adjustment.

Actually, the more bands an equalizer has, the easier it is to adjust.

For you if you need to address a specific range: yes. For the person this is
about: NO, this is about the overall balance between low and high midrange
because the guys problem is likely to be that the high midrange is masked by
the low midrange.

The relevant eq is exactly what the classic 5 band JVC does very well. It is
the tool that does exactly what is needed, and the simplest tool that does
the job is the best tool. It could be a different case in case one was not
already available, but one already is, the OP just needs to grasp the
concept of reducing that of which there is too much perceived rather than
boosting and thereby reduce the masking.

A classic 1960-ties style bass control would also have good mileage. The
classic tone controls were for tonal balance.


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

[Peter Larsen[_2_]]

Arny Krueger wrote:

"William Sommerwerck" wrote in
message

In this very special context I think a 5 band is a good
choice, since it is about overall tonal balance and
because of ease of adjustment.

Actually, the more bands an equalizer has, the easier it
is to adjust.

I agree. Too many bands starts somewhat north of 30.

I think its fair play to adjust adjacent bands in groups, for the
first cut.

However, I'll take less knobs on a parametric over more knobs on a
graphic.

This, in my perception, is about a person in the category: move the slider
with blue tape on it down to hear the news, back at zero to listen to music.

And I happen to have a JVC 5 band EQ - 5 transistors even, one of those
probably in the power supply - and know exactly what it does well.

My Philips tv set has a built in 5 band btw... hidden somewhere in the audio
menu, it may be worthwhile for the OP to investigate that route.


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

[Phildo]

"Peter Larsen" wrote in message
...
My Philips tv set has a built in 5 band btw... hidden somewhere in the
audio menu, it may be worthwhile for the OP to investigate that route.

Just bought me a new Philips LCD widescreen. Must check out if it has an EQ
built in. So far have found voices a bit hard to distinguish at times, even
on the "voice" preset.

Phildo

[Ty Ford]

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:42:09 -0500, Arny Krueger wrote
(in article ):

"vlmarcor" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
. ..
"vlmarcor" wrote in message


I'd like some headphone recommendations for an older
person with damaged hearing who has trouble hearing the
television. The person hears better when you adjust an
equalizer with a certain pattern of mid and high
frequencies. However, some mid and high frequencies if
too loud are painful.

Forget about wine-tasting headphones. Instead get some
good flat ones (e.g. Shure) and obtain and learn how to
use an equalizer.

Thanks Arny for responding. Would you know of any models
of flat response shure or other
headphones which you would recommend as well as which
model equalizer would be adequate?

I was thinking about the Shure IEMs when I wrote that. If an IEM-type
earphone is not desired, then headphones like Sennheiser HD 580 or Audio
Technica ATH-M50 would be good alternatives.



ATH-M50 from Audio Technica.

Regards,

Ty Ford

--Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services
Acting and Voiceover Demos http://www.tyford.com
Guitar player?:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RZJ9MptZmU

[Carey Carlan]

"Phildo" wrote in
:


"Peter Larsen" wrote in message
...
My Philips tv set has a built in 5 band btw... hidden somewhere in
the audio menu, it may be worthwhile for the OP to investigate that
route.

Just bought me a new Philips LCD widescreen. Must check out if it has
an EQ built in. So far have found voices a bit hard to distinguish at
times, even on the "voice" preset.

See if it is mixing the rear channel sound with front channels. That will
cloud the voices.

[William Sommerwerck]

"Peter Larsen" wrote in message
...

And I happen to have a JVC 5 band EQ -- 5 transistors even,
one of those probably in the power supply -- and know exactly
what it does well.

You're assuming you understand the OP's problem. I don't feel he gave a very
good description.

[Arny Krueger]

"Carey Carlan" wrote in message

"Phildo" wrote in
:


"Peter Larsen" wrote in message
...
My Philips tv set has a built in 5 band btw... hidden
somewhere in the audio menu, it may be worthwhile for
the OP to investigate that route.

Just bought me a new Philips LCD widescreen. Must check
out if it has an EQ built in. So far have found voices a
bit hard to distinguish at times, even on the "voice"
preset.

See if it is mixing the rear channel sound with front
channels. That will cloud the voices.

My daughter just bought a new Philips LCD widescreen - I've watched a few
shows on it over her house and am pleased to report that I didn't recommend
it. It has a bad pixel and the contrast is IMO substandard.

[William Sommerwerck]

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
. ..

My daughter just bought a new Philips LCD widescreen -- I've
watched a few shows on it over her house and am pleased to
report that I didn't recommend it. It has a bad pixel and the
contrast is IMO substandard.

When buying any LCD product, one should determine what the manufacturer's
"bad pixel" policy/warranty is.

[Arny Krueger]

"William Sommerwerck" wrote in
message
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
. ..

My daughter just bought a new Philips LCD widescreen --
I've watched a few shows on it over her house and am
pleased to report that I didn't recommend it. It has a
bad pixel and the contrast is IMO substandard.

When buying any LCD product, one should determine what
the manufacturer's "bad pixel" policy/warranty is.

Agreed. Like I said, I didn't have anything to do with this purchase.

[Phildo]

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
. ..
My daughter just bought a new Philips LCD widescreen - I've watched a few
shows on it over her house and am pleased to report that I didn't
recommend it. It has a bad pixel and the contrast is IMO substandard.

That's strange. Not one bad pixel on mine, contrast was better than any of
the other models in the store and the picture quality is great. Go figure.

Phildo

[Peter Larsen[_2_]]

William Sommerwerck wrote:

"Peter Larsen" wrote in message
...

And I happen to have a JVC 5 band EQ -- 5 transistors even,
one of those probably in the power supply -- and know exactly
what it does well.

You're assuming you understand the OP's problem.

At the risk of being wrong: affirmative, I assume that I understand the
problem. There is a risk that the problem is not just an ear problem, so I
will re-iterate that it ought to be verified that the problem with
understanding speech is a hearing issue.

I don't feel he gave
a very good description.

He did, "only 70 percent understood" - be it exact or not. My mother had a
quite similar problem, always complained about the bass. It eventually
dawned on me that she had a hearing loss issue leading to the bass masking
the midrange. Also some tv sets are problematic because of poor reproduction
in the 150 Hz range.


Kind regards

Peter Larsen