[George M. Middius]

The population of South Africa is greater than the population of
Australia. The whites are outnumbered. This is a call to arms!

[Jenn]

In article
,
Bret Ludwig wrote:

On Dec 18, 7:01 pm, George M. Middius cmndr _ george @ comcast .
net wrote:
The population of South Africa is greater than the population of
Australia. The whites are outnumbered. This is a call to arms!

Australia is a benighted land full of really poisonous snakes and
spiders and huge crocodiles, but worse, its population is full of
liberal weak mindedness.

Nah, it's the land of one of the most interesting composers of the 20th
century.

[George M. Middius]

Jenn said:

The population of South Africa is greater than the population of
Australia. The whites are outnumbered. This is a call to arms!

Australia is a benighted land full of really poisonous snakes and
spiders and huge crocodiles, but worse, its population is full of
liberal weak mindedness.

Nah, it's the land of one of the most interesting composers of the 20th
century.

Notwithstanding your feminazi viewpoint, Australians are at the top of
Bratzi's list.

[George M. Middius]

I said:

The population of South Africa is greater than the population of
Australia. The whites are outnumbered. This is a call to arms!

Australia is a benighted land full of really poisonous snakes and
spiders and huge crocodiles, but worse, its population is full of
liberal weak mindedness.

Nah, it's the land of one of the most interesting composers of the 20th
century.

Notwithstanding your feminazi viewpoint, Australians are at the top of
Bratzi's list.

That was a joke, BTW. I know you're not really a feminazi.

[Jenn]

In article ,
George M. Middius cmndr _ george @ comcast . net wrote:

I said:

The population of South Africa is greater than the population of
Australia. The whites are outnumbered. This is a call to arms!

Australia is a benighted land full of really poisonous snakes and
spiders and huge crocodiles, but worse, its population is full of
liberal weak mindedness.

Nah, it's the land of one of the most interesting composers of the 20th
century.

Notwithstanding your feminazi viewpoint, Australians are at the top of
Bratzi's list.

That was a joke, BTW. I know you're not really a feminazi.

;-)

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On Dec 18, 9:53 pm, Jenn wrote:
In article ,
George M. Middius cmndr _ george @ comcast . net wrote:





I said:

The population of South Africa is greater than the population of
Australia. The whites are outnumbered. This is a call to arms!

Australia is a benighted land full of really poisonous snakes and
spiders and huge crocodiles, but worse, its population is full of
liberal weak mindedness.

Nah, it's the land of one of the most interesting composers of the 20th
century.

Notwithstanding your feminazi viewpoint, Australians are at the top of
Bratzi's list.

That was a joke, BTW. I know you're not really a feminazi.

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Something more for you to draw a (wry) smile. The actual aspiring Nazi
propaganda chief to the RAO learnt when to shut up.
He kept on copying long, rambling thought-pieces from his spiritual
guide and master, a Mr. Sailer, about the low IQ races such as blacks.
(he prudently refrained from mentioning the high IQ of the Chinese and
Japanese). According to Sailer and him this explained why the Blacks
are and should stay at the bottom of the totem-pole.
Next, in a fit of absence of mind, he called Ike Turner a "genius". I
asked if this showed that there are some things that IQ fails to
measure.
No answer! He probably is still turning the "Mein Kampf" pages to find
it
He is now mouthing off about the degeneracy of the Australians. It
seems the Australian lied down to rest on their laurels after beating
Ludwig's beloved "manlly" SS batallions to a pulp. And that after
those swastikaed supermen proved their valour as concentration camps'
guards
Ludovic Mirabel

[Trevor Wilson[_2_]]

"Bret Ludwig" wrote in message
...
On Dec 18, 11:30 pm, Jenn wrote:
In article
,
Bret Ludwig wrote:

On Dec 18, 7:01 pm, George M. Middius cmndr _ george @ comcast .
net wrote:
The population of South Africa is greater than the population of
Australia. The whites are outnumbered. This is a call to arms!

Australia is a benighted land full of really poisonous snakes and
spiders and huge crocodiles, but worse, its population is full of
liberal weak mindedness.

Nah, it's the land of one of the most interesting composers of the 20th
century.

Actually there are many remarkable Australian activities and
products. I'm told the best piano in the world today is made there.
But the trend politically there defies any intelligent explanation.

**That makes you a complete idiot. Let me explain why Australians voted the
way they did (Howard, being the ousted, conservative [Republican]PM and
Rudd, being the new, liberal [Democrat] PM):

* Howard aligned himself with the planet's dumbest leader (George W Bush)
and has spend billions of taxpayer Dollars on Dubya's war in Iraq, thus
placing valuable resources and military personel at risk for no good reason.
* Howard has been actively attempting to dismantle two of the nation's most
important health system pillars. These are renowned the world over, for
reducing the cost to patients of drugs and health care, whilst maintaining a
high standard for all Australians. Howard has been attempting to emulate the
US system, where the big winners are large medical corporations.
* The Howard government has been the highest taxing government in Australian
history.
* The Howard government was elected on a platform of promises to keep
interest rates low, but has presided over 6 interest rate rises in the last
couple of years.
* The Howard government has been dogged by allegations of corruption and
nepotism.
* The Howard government has been guilty of squandering hundreds of million
of taxpayer Dollars on political advertising.
* The Howard government has resisted the adoption of a Republican model for
Australia (though the majority of Australias no longer want the Queen of
England as Australia's head of state).
* Howard actively courted religious groups to assist with his campaigns. At
least on of those religious groups employs tactics which are objectionable
and possibly illegal.
* Howard resisted signing the Kyoto Protocol.
* Howard consistently claimed the there was no global warming.
* When presented with irrefutable evidence that global warming was occuring,
Howard then claimed that it was not anthropogenic in nature.
* Howard was perceived (correctly, as it happens) as being completely out of
touch with Australians.

And it's true they've been content to live on the coastline and not
move inland. Australia could easily support five times its present
population.

**You have ZERO idea. None, whatsoever. Every city in Australia (save one)
has tough water restrictions in place. Most of Australia is in the middle of
drought. Not only can we not feed a population much larger than it is at
present, but there is not enough water to drink. Washing cars is a memory
for most city dwellers. There is not enough for that. We live on the coast
for good reason. It's nice. There's adequate water, plenty of trees and
temperatures are more benign.

100 million people would turn Australia into a third world ********.
Australian soils are ancient, fragile and lack fertility. Few crops will
grow in most of the country.

Trevor Wilson

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 19, 4:48 pm, Bret Ludwig wrote:
On Dec 19, 4:22 pm, "Trevor Wilson"

* Howard was perceived (correctly, as it happens) as being completely out of
touch with Australians.

That may say one of two things.

Yes, it does. If someone says "They're all crazy! I'm the only sane
one!" like you are here, it usually says something else.

[Trevor Wilson[_2_]]

"Bret Ludwig" wrote in message
...


**You have ZERO idea. None, whatsoever. Every city in Australia (save
one)
has tough water restrictions in place. Most of Australia is in the middle
of
drought. Not only can we not feed a population much larger than it is at
present, but there is not enough water to drink. Washing cars is a memory
for most city dwellers. There is not enough for that. We live on the
coast
for good reason. It's nice. There's adequate water, plenty of trees and
temperatures are more benign.

100 million people would turn Australia into a third world ********.
Australian soils are ancient, fragile and lack fertility. Few crops will
grow in most of the country.


If you had sense you'd mine the uranium and build nuke desalination
plants.

**For what? 50 years. That is a short term solution. At best. BTW: Have you
ever tasted desalinated water? It ain't that great.


Fifty years of ****ting on the ground and turning it over would make
the soil cropworthy. Once you had plants down the climate would change
somewhat.

**In 200 years, our soils have become worse, not better.


300 million people are turning the US into a Third World ********, on
the other hand, so 50 rather than 100 million population is probably a
better goal. You have a point there.

**Of course. Australia is already at bursting point. You seem to think that,
because Australia has a similar land size to that of the US, that it can
support a similar sized population. That is not the case. Australia is a
very ancient land. The US is not. As a consequence, the US has many areas of
very rich soils and far fewer areas of very low rainfall.

Trevor Wilson

[Trevor Wilson[_2_]]

"Bret Ludwig" wrote in message
...
On Dec 19, 4:22 pm, "Trevor Wilson"
wrote:
"Bret Ludwig" wrote in message

...



On Dec 18, 11:30 pm, Jenn wrote:
In article
,
Bret Ludwig wrote:

On Dec 18, 7:01 pm, George M. Middius cmndr _ george @ comcast .
net wrote:
The population of South Africa is greater than the population of
Australia. The whites are outnumbered. This is a call to arms!

Australia is a benighted land full of really poisonous snakes and
spiders and huge crocodiles, but worse, its population is full of
liberal weak mindedness.

Nah, it's the land of one of the most interesting composers of the
20th
century.

Actually there are many remarkable Australian activities and
products. I'm told the best piano in the world today is made there.
But the trend politically there defies any intelligent explanation.

**That makes you a complete idiot. Let me explain why Australians voted
the
way they did (Howard, being the ousted, conservative [Republican]PM and
Rudd, being the new, liberal [Democrat] PM):

* Howard aligned himself with the planet's dumbest leader (George W Bush)
and has spend billions of taxpayer Dollars on Dubya's war in Iraq, thus
placing valuable resources and military personel at risk for no good
reason.

There is a good point. Australia has no dog in that fight. There is
never going to be democracy in Iraq, and indeed it was in the interest
of most everyone to leave Hussein in there.

**Except the Iraqis, the Kurds and most everyone else of course.


* Howard has been actively attempting to dismantle two of the nation's
most
important health system pillars. These are renowned the world over, for
reducing the cost to patients of drugs and health care, whilst
maintaining a
high standard for all Australians. Howard has been attempting to emulate
the
US system, where the big winners are large medical corporations.

A return to the system that worked in America-fee for service out of
pocket-will be painful to emulate but in the long run necessary.

**Bull****. Your ignorance of the reality of the situation is duly noted.
Points:

* The PBS is a system which examines important drugs, which are often
life-saving. The PBS panel consists of doctors, phamacists and other
experts. The PBS decides which drugs are useful and which are not. Those
that are genuinely useful are given a stauts which allows Australians to
obtain them at low cost. The government deals with the drug companies and
negotiates a price which is strictly related to the drug's efficacy.
Australians will typically pay far less for a life-saving drug (which may be
manufactured in the US) than US citizens do. The Australian government pays
far less than US institutions for such drugs, due to the tough guidelines
and bulk purchasing power. Other nations have adopted the Australian model.
It is efficient and provides the most benefit at the lowest cost.
* Australia's national health system operates at a cost of approximately 9%
of GDP. In the US, the mostly privatised system costs the nation in excess
of 15% GDP and rising. Private health companies must make profits in order
to pay shareholders. Governments don't. Therefore the costs are lower. I've
read that the government controlled part of the US medical system operates
on around 0.25% of income. No private company could operate at such low
overheads.



* The Howard government has resisted the adoption of a Republican model
for
Australia (though the majority of Australias no longer want the Queen of
England as Australia's head of state).

QEII has been a good monarch, although her progeny surely will not. I
think the BNP recognize this.

**The Queen is completely irrelevant to Australia and has been so for
decades.



* Howard resisted signing the Kyoto Protocol.

A good idea.

**Nope. A bad idea. Anthropogenic global warming is a reality and needs to
be addressed.


* Howard consistently claimed the there was no global warming.
* When presented with irrefutable evidence that global warming was
occuring,
Howard then claimed that it was not anthropogenic in nature.

It largely is not.

**Got some proof of that?


* Howard was perceived (correctly, as it happens) as being completely out
of
touch with Australians.

That may say one of two things.

**What?

Trevor Wilson

[Jenn]

In article
,
Bret Ludwig wrote:

On Dec 18, 11:30 pm, Jenn wrote:
In article
,
Bret Ludwig wrote:

On Dec 18, 7:01 pm, George M. Middius cmndr _ george @ comcast .
net wrote:
The population of South Africa is greater than the population of
Australia. The whites are outnumbered. This is a call to arms!

Australia is a benighted land full of really poisonous snakes and
spiders and huge crocodiles, but worse, its population is full of
liberal weak mindedness.

Nah, it's the land of one of the most interesting composers of the 20th
century.

Actually there are many remarkable Australian activities and
products. I'm told the best piano in the world today is made there.

Hmmm, news to me.

[George M. Middius]

Jenn said:

I'm told the best piano in the world today is made there.

Hmmm, news to me.

Bratzi just means that since Australia became a de facto colony of Japan,
Yamahas count as Australian.

[MINe109]

On Dec 19, 5:57 pm, Jenn wrote:
In article
,
Bret Ludwig wrote:



On Dec 18, 11:30 pm, Jenn wrote:
In article
,
Bret Ludwig wrote:

On Dec 18, 7:01 pm, George M. Middius cmndr _ george @ comcast .
net wrote:
The population of South Africa is greater than the population of
Australia. The whites are outnumbered. This is a call to arms!

Australia is a benighted land full of really poisonous snakes and
spiders and huge crocodiles, but worse, its population is full of
liberal weak mindedness.

Nah, it's the land of one of the most interesting composers of the 20th
century.

Actually there are many remarkable Australian activities and
products. I'm told the best piano in the world today is made there.

Hmmm, news to me.

He's referring to Stuart & Sons. Roy Howat played one for his Debussy
series on Tall Poppies.

Not Roy:

http://www.stuartandsons.com/index2.php

Stephen

[Jenn]

In article
,
MINe109 wrote:

On Dec 19, 5:57 pm, Jenn wrote:
In article
,
Bret Ludwig wrote:



On Dec 18, 11:30 pm, Jenn wrote:
In article
,
Bret Ludwig wrote:

On Dec 18, 7:01 pm, George M. Middius cmndr _ george @ comcast .
net wrote:
The population of South Africa is greater than the population of
Australia. The whites are outnumbered. This is a call to arms!

Australia is a benighted land full of really poisonous snakes and
spiders and huge crocodiles, but worse, its population is full of
liberal weak mindedness.

Nah, it's the land of one of the most interesting composers of the 20th
century.

Actually there are many remarkable Australian activities and
products. I'm told the best piano in the world today is made there.

Hmmm, news to me.

He's referring to Stuart & Sons. Roy Howat played one for his Debussy
series on Tall Poppies.

Not Roy:

http://www.stuartandsons.com/index2.php

Stephen

Oh yeah, I've heard of them. They have a new way to terminate the
strings or something, IIRC. I didn't know that they are Aussie.

[Jenn]

In article
,
Bret Ludwig wrote:

On Dec 19, 6:37 pm, Jenn wrote:
In article
,





MINe109 wrote:
On Dec 19, 5:57 pm, Jenn wrote:
In article
,
Bret Ludwig wrote:

On Dec 18, 11:30 pm, Jenn wrote:
In article
,
Bret Ludwig wrote:

On Dec 18, 7:01 pm, George M. Middius cmndr _ george @ comcast
.
net wrote:
The population of South Africa is greater than the population
of
Australia. The whites are outnumbered. This is a call to arms!

Australia is a benighted land full of really poisonous snakes and
spiders and huge crocodiles, but worse, its population is full of
liberal weak mindedness.

Nah, it's the land of one of the most interesting composers of the
20th
century.

Actually there are many remarkable Australian activities and
products. I'm told the best piano in the world today is made there.

Hmmm, news to me.

He's referring to Stuart & Sons. Roy Howat played one for his Debussy
series on Tall Poppies.

Not Roy:

http://www.stuartandsons.com/index2.php

Stephen

Oh yeah, I've heard of them. They have a new way to terminate the
strings or something, IIRC. I didn't know that they are Aussie.- Hide
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Yes, they have more keys on bass and treble and four pedals too.
While this makes them the Whig Bid champions, their piano actually has
a superior sound in the opinion of many credible observers too.

How many world class players are using them instead of Ss or Bs?

[Trevor Wilson[_2_]]

"Bret Ludwig" wrote in message
...
On Dec 18, 7:01 pm, George M. Middius cmndr _ george @ comcast .
net wrote:
The population of South Africa is greater than the population of
Australia. The whites are outnumbered. This is a call to arms!

Australia is a benighted land full of really poisonous snakes and
spiders and huge crocodiles, but worse, its population is full of
liberal weak mindedness.

**Is that so? Let me see if I understand you:

Australia's "liberal weak minded" poulation is comfortable living in a
country "full of really poisonous snakes and spiders and huge crocdiles". Is
that your assertion? What should we do about our crocs, spiders and snakes?
Kill 'em all? We're not frightened of them. Most of us kinda like 'em.
They're part of what makes this country what it is. Having said all that: I
hereby invite you to come to Australia and repeat your words at a venue of
my choosing.

Trevor Wilson

[Trevor Wilson[_2_]]

"Bret Ludwig" wrote in message
...

Australia's "liberal weak minded" poulation is comfortable living in a
country "full of really poisonous snakes and spiders and huge crocdiles".
Is
that your assertion? What should we do about our crocs, spiders and
snakes?
Kill 'em all? We're not frightened of them. Most of us kinda like 'em.
They're part of what makes this country what it is. Having said all that:
I
hereby invite you to come to Australia and repeat your words at a venue
of
my choosing.

I might be crazy, I'm not stupid.

**Yeah, you are.

Trevor Wilson