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Does anybody have any idea how I can connect a turntable to my
computer and get some music onto the computer from vinyl records?

Thanks for any ideas or help.

Wayne

[Trevor Wilson[_2_]]

wrote in message
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Does anybody have any idea how I can connect a turntable to my
computer and get some music onto the computer from vinyl records?

**If your turntable doesn't have a phono preamp built in (some modern ones
do, some don't), then connect the TT to an amplifier, which has a phono
preamp (some do, some don't). Then connect the tape out to your computer
sound card and you're away.

Trevor Wilson

[Bill Riel]

In article ,
says...

wrote in message
...
Does anybody have any idea how I can connect a turntable to my
computer and get some music onto the computer from vinyl records?

**If your turntable doesn't have a phono preamp built in (some modern ones
do, some don't), then connect the TT to an amplifier, which has a phono
preamp (some do, some don't). Then connect the tape out to your computer
sound card and you're away.

To add to that - if you are using a notebook for capture, you probably
will need to get another sound card (there are several affordable USB
devices that work well). Very few notebook sound cards have a line-in:
most only have a microphone jack which is mono only.

Generally this is not a problem with desktop computer sound cards.

--
Bill

[Jenn]

In article ,
Bill Riel wrote:

In article ,
says...

wrote in message
...
Does anybody have any idea how I can connect a turntable to my
computer and get some music onto the computer from vinyl records?

**If your turntable doesn't have a phono preamp built in (some modern ones
do, some don't), then connect the TT to an amplifier, which has a phono
preamp (some do, some don't). Then connect the tape out to your computer
sound card and you're away.

To add to that - if you are using a notebook for capture, you probably
will need to get another sound card (there are several affordable USB
devices that work well). Very few notebook sound cards have a line-in:

Macs do eg

[George M. Middius]

Jenn said:

Very few notebook sound cards have a line-in:

Macs do eg

Thnak's Jennn for, admiotong Jennnn that your clueless-about the
modern-corperate world Jnne.

[Jenn]

In article ,
George M. Middius cmndr _ george @ comcast . net wrote:

Jenn said:

Very few notebook sound cards have a line-in:

Macs do eg

Thnak's Jennn for, admiotong Jennnn that your clueless-about the
modern-corperate world Jnne.

LoT"s

[Bill Riel]

I wrote:

To add to that - if you are using a notebook for capture, you probably
will need to get another sound card (there are several affordable USB
devices that work well). Very few notebook sound cards have a line-in:

Jenn replied with:

Macs do eg

Yes they do - my wife has a Mac Book that is a very nice machine. I do
like Macs quite a bit (I'm typing this on an old iMac that we've had for
years) but most of my professional life requires the use of Windows.

I haven't used the Mac for any audio capture, but I have used a Toshiba
notebook to record some vinyl. For that, I have to use a USB audio
device because the sound card only accepts a mono input.

But it works well, and I've got some pretty simple software on the
Toshiba that I like for doing the capture/CD burning and possible
cleanup of the captured files, though I often find I don't clean them
much.

--
Bill

[Arny Krueger]

"Bill Riel" wrote in message

I wrote:

To add to that - if you are using a notebook for
capture, you probably will need to get another sound
card (there are several affordable USB devices that
work well). Very few notebook sound cards have a
line-in:

Jenn replied with:

Macs do eg

Yes they do - my wife has a Mac Book that is a very nice
machine. I do like Macs quite a bit (I'm typing this on
an old iMac that we've had for years) but most of my
professional life requires the use of Windows.

My daughter has a Mac Notebook. It cost her about 3 times what a similar
Windows laptop would have cost her. She paid $100s more for a MacIntosh
extended warranty. When she had a problem with it, she had to send the whole
notebook out of town to be checked out. The repair facility said - hey
there's a tiny dent in corner of the case, the machine is therefore abused
and we won't honor the warranty.

I don't think she's buying another Mac real soon!

I haven't used the Mac for any audio capture, but I have
used a Toshiba notebook to record some vinyl. For that, I
have to use a USB audio device because the sound card
only accepts a mono input.

Not only does the laptop input only accept mono, it also has too much gain
because it is a microphone input.

The good news is that USB audio devices that equal or better any laptops
line input are readily available and relatively inexpensive. One to avoid
is called the iMic. One to look for is the Behringer UCA 202.

http://www.samedaymusic.com/product--BEHUCA202

Probably on the shelf at your local Guitar Center.

[Jenn]

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Bill Riel" wrote in message

I wrote:

To add to that - if you are using a notebook for
capture, you probably will need to get another sound
card (there are several affordable USB devices that
work well). Very few notebook sound cards have a
line-in:

Jenn replied with:

Macs do eg

Yes they do - my wife has a Mac Book that is a very nice
machine. I do like Macs quite a bit (I'm typing this on
an old iMac that we've had for years) but most of my
professional life requires the use of Windows.

My daughter has a Mac Notebook. It cost her about 3 times what a similar
Windows laptop would have cost her. She paid $100s more for a MacIntosh
extended warranty. When she had a problem with it, she had to send the whole
notebook out of town to be checked out. The repair facility said - hey
there's a tiny dent in corner of the case, the machine is therefore abused
and we won't honor the warranty.

I don't think she's buying another Mac real soon!

Well, that settles that!

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" wrote in
message

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Bill Riel" wrote in message

I wrote:

To add to that - if you are using a notebook for
capture, you probably will need to get another sound
card (there are several affordable USB devices that
work well). Very few notebook sound cards have a
line-in:

Jenn replied with:

Macs do eg

Yes they do - my wife has a Mac Book that is a very nice
machine. I do like Macs quite a bit (I'm typing this on
an old iMac that we've had for years) but most of my
professional life requires the use of Windows.

My daughter has a Mac Notebook. It cost her about 3
times what a similar Windows laptop would have cost her.
She paid $100s more for a MacIntosh extended warranty.
When she had a problem with it, she had to send the
whole notebook out of town to be checked out. The repair
facility said - hey there's a tiny dent in corner of the
case, the machine is therefore abused and we won't honor
the warranty.

I don't think she's buying another Mac real soon!

Well, that settles that!

Gee Jen, you're getting your role as the female Art Sack-o-crapman down so
well. Will the Middiot promote you to be his arch-idiot, and fuliminate
along with with him?

[Clyde Slick]

On 30 Noi, 07:49, "Arny Krueger" wrote:
"Jenn" wrote in



Well, that settles that!

Gee Jen, you're getting your role as the female Art Sack-o-crapman down so
well. Will the Middiot promote you to be his arch-idiot, and fuliminate
along with with him?

"Well, that settles that!"
very toxic words those are, "At least" as
toxic as "been there, done that" or
"pot, meet kettle"

so, I'll tone down the rhetoric a bit and
just say that your toilet needs a good
scrubbing.

[George M. Middius]

It's Krooglish time!

fuliminate

fuliminate (v.i.): to defecate; to evacuate; (coll.) to shop for dinner
[etym: cf /feces/ and /eliminate/]


Too bad you messed up that reference to Stereophile, Arnii. You almost
had a perfect "debating trade" month notched. ;-)

[Jenn]

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in
message

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Bill Riel" wrote in message

I wrote:

To add to that - if you are using a notebook for
capture, you probably will need to get another sound
card (there are several affordable USB devices that
work well). Very few notebook sound cards have a
line-in:

Jenn replied with:

Macs do eg

Yes they do - my wife has a Mac Book that is a very nice
machine. I do like Macs quite a bit (I'm typing this on
an old iMac that we've had for years) but most of my
professional life requires the use of Windows.

My daughter has a Mac Notebook. It cost her about 3
times what a similar Windows laptop would have cost her.
She paid $100s more for a MacIntosh extended warranty.
When she had a problem with it, she had to send the
whole notebook out of town to be checked out. The repair
facility said - hey there's a tiny dent in corner of the
case, the machine is therefore abused and we won't honor
the warranty.

I don't think she's buying another Mac real soon!

Well, that settles that!

Gee Jen, you're getting your role as the female Art Sack-o-crapman down so
well. Will the Middiot promote you to be his arch-idiot, and fuliminate
along with with him?

Well Army, the advanced reader will discern that I'm mocking your
attempt to turn a specific into a general.

[Marty Troum]

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:36:05 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

Does anybody have any idea how I can connect a turntable to my
computer and get some music onto the computer from vinyl records?

Thanks for any ideas or help.

Wayne


Try this
http://www.adstech.com/products/RDX-...sp?pid=RDX-150
I've converted a large portion of my record collection using this
device.
Marty T.

[George M. Middius]

Jenn said:

fuliminate

Well Army, the advanced reader will discern that I'm mocking your
attempt to turn a specific into a general.

"Mocking" does not compute. Please rephrase using known vocabulary
units. My Handy-Dandy Port-a-Kroo Translation Device™ suggests the
following vocab units as replacements:

measuring
quantifying
debating
fuliminating

Thank you in advance for pre-digesting your complex human-type thoughts
into 'borg-accessible pablum.

[Bill Riel]

In article ,
says...

My daughter has a Mac Notebook. It cost her about 3 times what a similar
Windows laptop would have cost her. She paid $100s more for a MacIntosh
extended warranty. When she had a problem with it, she had to send the whole
notebook out of town to be checked out. The repair facility said - hey
there's a tiny dent in corner of the case, the machine is therefore abused
and we won't honor the warranty.

Very sorry to hear that - our experience over the years has been quite a
bit more positive with Apple products. Certainly they've been easily as
reliable as any of the other PC products I've owned, and usually have
been better built.

Though in all honesty I haven't had any warranty work done in a very
long time. Oh, wait, that's not entirely true. There was some issue with
my wife's Macbook that was a warranty item, but I think it was more of a
recall to replace something.

It was handled locally, quickly and quite professionally.

I don't think she's buying another Mac real soon!

I don't blame her at all if that was her experience.

--
Bill

[Bill Riel]

In article ,
says...

Try this
http://www.adstech.com/products/RDX-...sp?pid=RDX-150
I've converted a large portion of my record collection using this
device.

What a coincidence: that's the same device that I use for capture. It
works well, and is quite cheap. I didn't care very much for the capture
software it came with though (I think it's Nero), but there are lots of
choices there.

--
Bill

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" wrote in
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In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in
message

In article
, "Arny
Krueger" wrote:

"Bill Riel" wrote in message

I wrote:

To add to that - if you are using a notebook for
capture, you probably will need to get another sound
card (there are several affordable USB devices that
work well). Very few notebook sound cards have a
line-in:

Jenn replied with:

Macs do eg

Yes they do - my wife has a Mac Book that is a very
nice machine. I do like Macs quite a bit (I'm typing
this on an old iMac that we've had for years) but
most of my professional life requires the use of
Windows.

My daughter has a Mac Notebook. It cost her about 3
times what a similar Windows laptop would have cost
her. She paid $100s more for a MacIntosh extended
warranty. When she had a problem with it, she had to
send the whole notebook out of town to be checked out.
The repair facility said - hey there's a tiny dent in
corner of the case, the machine is therefore abused
and we won't honor the warranty.

I don't think she's buying another Mac real soon!

Well, that settles that!

Gee Jen, you're getting your role as the female Art
Sack-o-crapman down so well. Will the Middiot promote
you to be his arch-idiot, and fuliminate along with
with him?

Well Army, the advanced reader will discern that I'm
mocking your attempt to turn a specific into a general.

The even more advanced reader will discern that is what all the Middiot's
posse do.

[John Stone]

On 11/29/07 9:03 PM, in article
, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Not only does the laptop input only accept mono, it also has too much gain
because it is a microphone input.

I've got a MacBook Pro and the input is either stereo line level or optical.

[[email protected]]

On Nov 30, 12:57 pm, John Stone wrote:
On 11/29/07 9:03 PM, in article
, "Arny Krueger"

wrote:
Not only does the laptop input only accept mono, it also has too much gain
because it is a microphone input.

I've got a MacBook Pro and the input is either stereo line level or optical.

Ok, now I'm just getting confused. Do I go with Instant Music, iMic,
or one of the other devices that's been talked about here?

Wayne

[Bill Riel]

In article b16337ee-ef63-4ca8-a7a7-
,
says...

Ok, now I'm just getting confused. Do I go with Instant Music, iMic,
or one of the other devices that's been talked about here?

I don't know what hardware you've got - if you would be so kind as to
list what computer you were planning on using, whether or not you've got
a turntable and so on it would be much easier to give advice.

--
Bill

[[email protected]]

On Nov 30, 6:32 pm, Bill Riel wrote:
In article b16337ee-ef63-4ca8-a7a7-
,
says...

Ok, now I'm just getting confused. Do I go with Instant Music, iMic,
or one of the other devices that's been talked about here?

I don't know what hardware you've got - if you would be so kind as to
list what computer you were planning on using, whether or not you've got
a turntable and so on it would be much easier to give advice.

--
Bill

Ok. I have a Dell PC and a tecnics turntable.

[Bill Riel]

In article 3396116f-257b-40a7-819b-9e5732c5fa80
@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com, says...

Ok. I have a Dell PC and a tecnics turntable.

Sounds good - do you have a receiver with a phono input? If so, you
shouldn't need any additional hardware (other than appropriate cabling).
You should be able to play your records on the turntable and run a cable
from your tape out into the sound card on your Dell.

You may want to get some software that helps with the capture/cleanup of
the records. There are a number of options out there, some of them free.

One shareware product that is pretty easy to use is called Spin It
Again:
http://www.acoustica.com/spinitagain/

It's not the most spophisticated software available for this purpose,
but it's very easy and the simplicity appeals to me.

Good luck!

--
Bill

[[email protected]]

On Nov 30, 6:51 pm, Bill Riel wrote:
In article 3396116f-257b-40a7-819b-9e5732c5fa80
@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com, says...

Ok. I have a Dell PC and a tecnics turntable.

Sounds good - do you have a receiver with a phono input? If so, you
shouldn't need any additional hardware (other than appropriate cabling).
You should be able to play your records on the turntable and run a cable
from your tape out into the sound card on your Dell.

You may want to get some software that helps with the capture/cleanup of
the records. There are a number of options out there, some of them free.

One shareware product that is pretty easy to use is called Spin It
Again:
http://www.acoustica.com/spinitagain/

It's not the most spophisticated software available for this purpose,
but it's very easy and the simplicity appeals to me.

Good luck!

--
Bill

You are very helpful! Yes, I do have a receiver with a phono input.
that's what it's connected to now. So, I need to cable from the back
of the receiver to the computer. Into the microphone jack? But I
will have to have software to capture the songs, right? I'm such a
novice at this.

[Bill Riel]

In article 1bd9776b-463f-4a57-81d7-ed50025e5a35
@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, says...

You are very helpful! Yes, I do have a receiver with a phono input.
that's what it's connected to now. So, I need to cable from the back
of the receiver to the computer. Into the microphone jack?

No - you should plug it into the line input on the sound card, not the
microphone jack.

But I
will have to have software to capture the songs, right? I'm such a
novice at this.

I think you might be a good candidate for the software that I mentioned
above: http://www.acoustica.com/spinitagain/

The software has detailed instructions on hooking things up to your
computer and how to proceed with the recording. You can use the software
on a trial basis for 3 albums, after which you the software will cease
to work unless you buy it.

However, give it a try - I think you'll find that going through a couple
of albums will help you understand the process, after which you can
either buy the software or move on to something else.

The only thing that this software doesn't get quite right for me is the
song breaks on the albums. It's easy to go through after you've recorded
and set them correctly though, but it took me a couple of tries to
realize what was going on and to fix it.

--
Bill

[[email protected]]

On Nov 30, 8:26 pm, Bill Riel wrote:
In article 1bd9776b-463f-4a57-81d7-ed50025e5a35
@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, says...

You are very helpful! Yes, I do have a receiver with a phono input.
that's what it's connected to now. So, I need to cable from the back
of the receiver to the computer. Into the microphone jack?

No - you should plug it into the line input on the sound card, not the
microphone jack.

But I
will have to have software to capture the songs, right? I'm such a
novice at this.

I think you might be a good candidate for the software that I mentioned
above:http://www.acoustica.com/spinitagain/

The software has detailed instructions on hooking things up to your
computer and how to proceed with the recording. You can use the software
on a trial basis for 3 albums, after which you the software will cease
to work unless you buy it.

However, give it a try - I think you'll find that going through a couple
of albums will help you understand the process, after which you can
either buy the software or move on to something else.

The only thing that this software doesn't get quite right for me is the
song breaks on the albums. It's easy to go through after you've recorded
and set them correctly though, but it took me a couple of tries to
realize what was going on and to fix it.

--
Bill

Thank you very much! I will give all this a try and see what happens.

Wayne

[Harry Lavo]

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in
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In article
, "Arny
Krueger" wrote:

"Bill Riel" wrote in message

I wrote:

To add to that - if you are using a notebook for
capture, you probably will need to get another sound
card (there are several affordable USB devices that
work well). Very few notebook sound cards have a
line-in:

Jenn replied with:

Macs do eg

Yes they do - my wife has a Mac Book that is a very
nice machine. I do like Macs quite a bit (I'm typing
this on an old iMac that we've had for years) but
most of my professional life requires the use of
Windows.

My daughter has a Mac Notebook. It cost her about 3
times what a similar Windows laptop would have cost
her. She paid $100s more for a MacIntosh extended
warranty. When she had a problem with it, she had to
send the whole notebook out of town to be checked out.
The repair facility said - hey there's a tiny dent in
corner of the case, the machine is therefore abused
and we won't honor the warranty.

I don't think she's buying another Mac real soon!

Well, that settles that!

Gee Jen, you're getting your role as the female Art
Sack-o-crapman down so well. Will the Middiot promote
you to be his arch-idiot, and fuliminate along with
with him?

Well Army, the advanced reader will discern that I'm
mocking your attempt to turn a specific into a general.

The even more advanced reader will discern that is what all the Middiot's
posse do.

However, those who know something about logic recognize logical error when
they see it Arny:

* Jenn mocked you
* George always mocks you

therefore

* Jenn and George are partners

Back to your workbench, Arny.

[Arny Krueger]

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Krueger" wrote:
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In article
, "Arny
Krueger" wrote:

"Bill Riel" wrote in message

I wrote:

To add to that - if you are using a notebook for
capture, you probably will need to get another
sound card (there are several affordable USB
devices that work well). Very few notebook sound
cards have a line-in:

Jenn replied with:

Macs do eg

Yes they do - my wife has a Mac Book that is a very
nice machine. I do like Macs quite a bit (I'm typing
this on an old iMac that we've had for years) but
most of my professional life requires the use of
Windows.

My daughter has a Mac Notebook. It cost her about 3
times what a similar Windows laptop would have cost
her. She paid $100s more for a MacIntosh extended
warranty. When she had a problem with it, she had to
send the whole notebook out of town to be checked
out. The repair facility said - hey there's a tiny
dent in corner of the case, the machine is therefore
abused and we won't honor the warranty.

I don't think she's buying another Mac real soon!

Well, that settles that!

Gee Jen, you're getting your role as the female Art
Sack-o-crapman down so well. Will the Middiot promote
you to be his arch-idiot, and fuliminate along with
with him?

Well Army, the advanced reader will discern that I'm
mocking your attempt to turn a specific into a general.

The even more advanced reader will discern that is what
all the Middiot's posse do.

However, those who know something about logic recognize
logical error when they see it Arny:

* Jenn mocked you
* George always mocks you

therefore

* Jenn and George are partners

Wrong. They are closer than that.

It looks like the JGH thing really has ticked off the monster ego that
animates the Middiot.

[George M. Middius]

MiNe 109 said to The Big ****:

It's not the ego you should worry about, it's the monsters from the id.

Arnii's id was amputated during his affeciation process. The Beast as we
know him today relies heavily on his ahem superego.

[Jenn]

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"Bill Riel" wrote in message

I wrote:

To add to that - if you are using a notebook for
capture, you probably will need to get another
sound card (there are several affordable USB
devices that work well). Very few notebook sound
cards have a line-in:

Jenn replied with:

Macs do eg

Yes they do - my wife has a Mac Book that is a very
nice machine. I do like Macs quite a bit (I'm typing
this on an old iMac that we've had for years) but
most of my professional life requires the use of
Windows.

My daughter has a Mac Notebook. It cost her about 3
times what a similar Windows laptop would have cost
her. She paid $100s more for a MacIntosh extended
warranty. When she had a problem with it, she had to
send the whole notebook out of town to be checked
out. The repair facility said - hey there's a tiny
dent in corner of the case, the machine is therefore
abused and we won't honor the warranty.

I don't think she's buying another Mac real soon!

Well, that settles that!

Gee Jen, you're getting your role as the female Art
Sack-o-crapman down so well. Will the Middiot promote
you to be his arch-idiot, and fuliminate along with
with him?

Well Army, the advanced reader will discern that I'm
mocking your attempt to turn a specific into a general.

The even more advanced reader will discern that is what
all the Middiot's posse do.

However, those who know something about logic recognize
logical error when they see it Arny:

* Jenn mocked you
* George always mocks you

therefore

* Jenn and George are partners

Wrong. They are closer than that.

Wow. Who knew?

Too much eggnog, Arny. (or not enough)

[Jenn]

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I wrote:

To add to that - if you are using a notebook for
capture, you probably will need to get another
sound card (there are several affordable USB
devices that work well). Very few notebook sound
cards have a line-in:

Jenn replied with:

Macs do eg

Yes they do - my wife has a Mac Book that is a very
nice machine. I do like Macs quite a bit (I'm typing
this on an old iMac that we've had for years) but
most of my professional life requires the use of
Windows.

My daughter has a Mac Notebook. It cost her about 3
times what a similar Windows laptop would have cost
her. She paid $100s more for a MacIntosh extended
warranty. When she had a problem with it, she had to
send the whole notebook out of town to be checked
out. The repair facility said - hey there's a tiny
dent in corner of the case, the machine is therefore
abused and we won't honor the warranty.

I don't think she's buying another Mac real soon!

Well, that settles that!

Gee Jen, you're getting your role as the female Art
Sack-o-crapman down so well. Will the Middiot promote
you to be his arch-idiot, and fuliminate along with
with him?

Well Army, the advanced reader will discern that I'm
mocking your attempt to turn a specific into a general.

The even more advanced reader will discern that is what
all the Middiot's posse do.

However, those who know something about logic recognize
logical error when they see it Arny:

* Jenn mocked you
* George always mocks you

therefore

* Jenn and George are partners

Wrong. They are closer than that.

Wow. Who knew?

Too much eggnog, Arny. (or not enough)

What you don't really see is that you have become
Arny's anime.
RAO is Rec.Arny.Opinion
Arny is insane, Arny is a hypocrite, Arny is this, Arny is that.
Without Arny pulling your string you got nothing.
I don't bother with this cesspool for a few weeks and in catching up
what do I find?
Aside from a classical music post and another know nothings
quest for guidance....RAO is all about Arny.
He wants it that way and you let him have it.
Who is the bigger fool?
The fool or those played by a fool.

ScottW

So I take it that you're done with Shhhh then?

[George M. Middius]

And now for something completely idiotic.

Without Arny pulling your string you got nothing.

Scooter, every time you rev your "motor", you generate a surprise. Keep
up the weird work.

[Arny Krueger]

"ScottW" wrote in message

"George M. Middius" cmndr _ george @ comcast . net
wrote in message
...


And now for something completely idiotic.

That's true. Arny's pawns are complete idiots.

I vacillate between thinking they are idiots and thinking that they are so
arrogant that they think what they do does anything but make them look
completely stupid.

Mostly I don't think about them at all - I just throw them a little meat so
that they can keep on humiliating themselves. It seems to be what they want
to do.

[Jenn]

In article ,
"ScottW" wrote:

"Jenn" wrote in message

...
In article ,

* Jenn and George are partners

Wrong. They are closer than that.

Wow. Who knew?

Too much eggnog, Arny. (or not enough)

What you don't really see is that you have become
Arny's anime.
RAO is Rec.Arny.Opinion
Arny is insane, Arny is a hypocrite, Arny is this, Arny is that.
Without Arny pulling your string you got nothing.
I don't bother with this cesspool for a few weeks and in catching up
what do I find?
Aside from a classical music post and another know nothings
quest for guidance....RAO is all about Arny.
He wants it that way and you let him have it.
Who is the bigger fool?
The fool or those played by a fool.

ScottW

So I take it that you're done with Shhhh then?

You're so clueless. Ssshhhh is an ass, but he doesn't
suffer the same illness you feed in Arny.

How has Shhh's posting rate changed since you've been away?

Please, teach us more "lessons"...

[Jenn]

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"ScottW" wrote in message

"George M. Middius" cmndr _ george @ comcast . net
wrote in message
...


And now for something completely idiotic.

That's true. Arny's pawns are complete idiots.

I vacillate between thinking they are idiots and thinking that they are so
arrogant that they think what they do does anything but make them look
completely stupid.

Mostly I don't think about them at all - I just throw them a little meat so
that they can keep on humiliating themselves. It seems to be what they want
to do.

THey are probably just trying to keep your career going.

[George M. Middius]

The Idiot yapped:

No us...just you. George, Art, Stephen all know what Arny is.

We also know what you are.

It's all fun and games to them.

Speaking for myself, if I had some anti-Scottie disinfectant, I'd use
it.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 1, 3:51 pm, "Arny Krueger" wrote:

Mostly I don't think about them at all - I just throw them a little meat so
that they can keep on humiliating themselves. It seems to be what they want
to do.

IOW, you're nothing more than an insane troll.

It's nice to see you admit that you don't believe what you post.

Who said the insane could not make progress? Neither do any of the
sane!

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Dec 1, 4:47 pm, "ScottW" wrote:

Anyway, I'm sure Ssssshhhh will find it quite amusing that you
don't see the difference between him and Arny.

Actually, I'm just gobstoppered that you entirely missed Jenn's point.

What a surprise.

[George M. Middius]

IKYABWAIBorg Jr. whined:

The Idiot yapped:

No us...just you. George, Art, Stephen all know what Arny is.

We also know what you are.

Thanks for admitting the truth of my words.

Sorry to disappoint, but I have no idea what the point of your rant was
supposed to be. Assuming you had a point, that is.

As far as knowing what the Krooborg is, do you actually believe any of
us was trying to hide that knowledge? You were the last RAO regular to
"admit" Krooger is crazy, so logically, it's you who should "admit" to
the truth of your own screed.

It's all fun and games to them.

Speaking for myself, if I had some anti-Scottie disinfectant, I'd use it.

Sure...but if you had some anti-Arny spray...you wouldn't use it.

There you go again, arguing with yourself inside your own head. I think
maybe your "motor" is revving too fast. You should have your interior
world checked for excessive carbon monoxide.

You need him to play your favorite game.

Speaking of unintelligible babbling, have you learned to say "duh!" in
espanol?

[Arny Krueger]

"Jenn" wrote in
message

In article ,
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

"ScottW" wrote in message

"George M. Middius" cmndr _ george @ comcast . net
wrote in message
...


And now for something completely idiotic.

That's true. Arny's pawns are complete idiots.

I vacillate between thinking they are idiots and
thinking that they are so arrogant that they think what
they do does anything but make them look completely
stupid.

Mostly I don't think about them at all - I just throw
them a little meat so that they can keep on humiliating
themselves. It seems to be what they want to do.

THey are probably just trying to keep your career going.

You do Sackman so well Jenn. How long have you been studying for this?