[[email protected]]

I'm in the central Florida area, and there's a local station that
plays holiday material 24/7 from Thanksgiving through Christmas. It's
nice but year after year it seems to be very nearly the same playlist
as far as I can determine. They've added Michael Buble' recently but I
don't hear much other new material.

They're owned by Clear Channel Communications and apparently this
station's playlist is handed down to them from on high, they have no
discretion whatsoever.

How is this kind of determination made? If there's a new artist you'd
like to have them add and have connections to a fanbase who might
follow suit to campaign for such, is it possible to write to someone
at corporate? I would assume much of it is based on an artist's
popularity but I notice they play an Aselin Debison track. Show of
hands of anyone outside of Canada who's heard of her? I don't think
she's ever charted in the U.S.

The particular artist I have in mind is Bianca Ryan, winner of the
first America's Got Talent. She has a short Christmas album out that's
really good, and in particular there are IMO two outstanding new songs
on it - "Why Couldn't It Be Christmas Everyday" and "Home On Christmas
Day", both of which I believe were written for her and she knocks them
out of the park.

I have yet to hear either on the radio around here, though some on her
site say they've heard them elsewhere in the country.

Any suggestions as to how to get them played or is it based on some
criteria a group of fans aren't going to have any influence over?

Home On Christmas Day

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pc3yM9IrymE


Why Couldn't It Be Christmas Everyday? Has a retro-Motown flavor.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dV8IE_vtTq8


Thanks

[Danny T]

On Nov 28, 5:42 pm, wrote:
I'm in the central Florida area, and there's a local station that
plays holiday material 24/7 from Thanksgiving through Christmas. It's
nice but year after year it seems to be very nearly the same playlist
as far as I can determine. They've added Michael Buble' recently but I
don't hear much other new material.

They're owned by Clear Channel Communications and apparently this
station's playlist is handed down to them from on high, they have no
discretion whatsoever.

How is this kind of determination made? If there's a new artist you'd
like to have them add and have connections to a fanbase who might
follow suit to campaign for such, is it possible to write to someone
at corporate? I would assume much of it is based on an artist's
popularity but I notice they play an Aselin Debison track. Show of
hands of anyone outside of Canada who's heard of her? I don't think
she's ever charted in the U.S.

The particular artist I have in mind is Bianca Ryan, winner of the
first America's Got Talent. She has a short Christmas album out that's
really good, and in particular there are IMO two outstanding new songs
on it - "Why Couldn't It Be Christmas Everyday" and "Home On Christmas
Day", both of which I believe were written for her and she knocks them
out of the park.

I have yet to hear either on the radio around here, though some on her
site say they've heard them elsewhere in the country.

Any suggestions as to how to get them played or is it based on some
criteria a group of fans aren't going to have any influence over?

Home On Christmas Day

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pc3yM9IrymE

Why Couldn't It Be Christmas Everyday? Has a retro-Motown flavor.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dV8IE_vtTq8

Thanks

Jimmy Rector

[Danny T]

On Nov 28, 10:48 pm, Danny T wrote:
On Nov 28, 5:42 pm, wrote:



I'm in the central Florida area, and there's a local station that
plays holiday material 24/7 from Thanksgiving through Christmas. It's
nice but year after year it seems to be very nearly the same playlist
as far as I can determine. They've added Michael Buble' recently but I
don't hear much other new material.

They're owned by Clear Channel Communications and apparently this
station's playlist is handed down to them from on high, they have no
discretion whatsoever.

How is this kind of determination made? If there's a new artist you'd
like to have them add and have connections to a fanbase who might
follow suit to campaign for such, is it possible to write to someone
at corporate? I would assume much of it is based on an artist's
popularity but I notice they play an Aselin Debison track. Show of
hands of anyone outside of Canada who's heard of her? I don't think
she's ever charted in the U.S.

The particular artist I have in mind is Bianca Ryan, winner of the
first America's Got Talent. She has a short Christmas album out that's
really good, and in particular there are IMO two outstanding new songs
on it - "Why Couldn't It Be Christmas Everyday" and "Home On Christmas
Day", both of which I believe were written for her and she knocks them
out of the park.

I have yet to hear either on the radio around here, though some on her
site say they've heard them elsewhere in the country.

Any suggestions as to how to get them played or is it based on some
criteria a group of fans aren't going to have any influence over?

Home On Christmas Day

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pc3yM9IrymE

Why Couldn't It Be Christmas Everyday? Has a retro-Motown flavor.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dV8IE_vtTq8

Thanks

Jimmy Rector

To be more specific, there is a catalog of songs that people will play
but money is spent BIG MONEY to put certain products in the forefront.
This is for every song you hear on the radio. It isn't because bubba
joe called the radio (though that will determine order) 'cause bubba
never heard any of those song before the radio anyway. The big labels
spend huge $$ to get their record spinning and to keep it spinning.
They play premium to have it placed in the front rack at mom and pop's
records as well as specs and all the rest. The product you see is
marketed just like tide or coke. Jimmy Rector is the head of
promotions for most of the music on the radio today. He is titled as
VP of promotions for Columbia music group and that covers just about
most of what you hear. (there is no president of promotions so VP is
the highest position)

[Stella Starr]

wrote:
....there's a local station that
plays holiday material 24/7 from Thanksgiving through Christmas. It's
nice but year after year it seems to be very nearly the same playlist
as far as I can determine.

That may be the case. A lot of stations under new ownership (even if it
is the DeathStar...or some other big commercial owner) don't see radical
changes, and if they have an old music library that's served just fine
for the Xmas rotation in previous years, the remaining staff probably is
happy to use the same programming ad infinitum.

That said, they may not be warm to changes, because it would mean more
work for them. The brains behind the original programming and/or
compiling of the holiday library may have been laid off in the sale to
CC, or simply quit or retired.

Can you find an actual human who may have the power to do any local
programming? Flattery will get you a lot farther than whining, so don't
presume that they'll refuse to make changes or listen to you. Instead
you might offer a link directly to the music you're suggesting...and it
wouldn't hurt to point out that you're currently a listener.



Stella (make up airnames? Us?) Starr
RIP Bill Pfeiffer 9/1/99

[jwvm]

On Nov 28, 11:48 pm, Danny T wrote:
On Nov 28, 5:42 pm, wrote:



I'm in the central Florida area, and there's a local station that
plays holiday material 24/7 from Thanksgiving through Christmas. It's
nice but year after year it seems to be very nearly the same playlist
as far as I can determine. They've added Michael Buble' recently but I
don't hear much other new material.

They're owned by Clear Channel Communications and apparently this
station's playlist is handed down to them from on high, they have no
discretion whatsoever.

How is this kind of determination made? If there's a new artist you'd
like to have them add and have connections to a fanbase who might
follow suit to campaign for such, is it possible to write to someone
at corporate? I would assume much of it is based on an artist's
popularity but I notice they play an Aselin Debison track. Show of
hands of anyone outside of Canada who's heard of her? I don't think
she's ever charted in the U.S.

The particular artist I have in mind is Bianca Ryan, winner of the
first America's Got Talent. She has a short Christmas album out that's
really good, and in particular there are IMO two outstanding new songs
on it - "Why Couldn't It Be Christmas Everyday" and "Home On Christmas
Day", both of which I believe were written for her and she knocks them
out of the park.

I have yet to hear either on the radio around here, though some on her
site say they've heard them elsewhere in the country.

Any suggestions as to how to get them played or is it based on some
criteria a group of fans aren't going to have any influence over?

Home On Christmas Day

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pc3yM9IrymE

Why Couldn't It Be Christmas Everyday? Has a retro-Motown flavor.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dV8IE_vtTq8

Thanks

Jimmy Rector

Can you spell Payola?

[David Eduardo]

"Danny T" wrote in message
...
On Nov 28, 10:48 pm, Danny T wrote:

To be more specific, there is a catalog of songs that people will play
but money is spent BIG MONEY to put certain products in the forefront.

Radio stations in the significant markets confirm all music decisions
through consultation, called "research" with the listeners. When a new song
is played, within about a month listeners are consulted and if they don't
like it on the average, it is gone. But since a large percentage of adult
stations don't play much if any new songs, most stations let listeners
decide on a regular basis about all the non-current songs they play and the
results are followed faitfully.

It is illegal to accept money sub rosa for the playing of songs, and if play
is sponsored, like a commercial, it must be clearly identified to the
listener as being sponsored. Record companies seldom if ever show interst in
non-current songs being played, so stations playing library cuts seldom even
see a record promoter.

This is for every song you hear on the radio.

It is for NO song played on the radio. The fact that there have been less
than 10 payola indictments in the last 50 years shows that 99.99% of
stations and programmers are not engaging in illegal practices.

It isn't because bubba
joe called the radio (though that will determine order)

Calls to stations seldom cause a song to be played or the time they will be
played. Even "requests" are recorded and played back when the song is
schedulted to play naturally.

'cause bubba
never heard any of those song before the radio anyway. The big labels
spend huge $$ to get their record spinning and to keep it spinning.

No, they don't. It's illegal.

They play premium to have it placed in the front rack at mom and pop's
records as well as specs and all the rest.

That is retail, not radio. Coke pays for facings in stores, too. That is
legal.

The product you see is
marketed just like tide or coke. Jimmy Rector is the head of
promotions for most of the music on the radio today.

While Sony BMG (owner of Columbia and other imprints) it is just part of of
the group of larger record companies, including EMI, WEA, Universal and many
smaller lables. The Columbia label itself is a small part of the music
business.

He is titled as
VP of promotions for Columbia music group and that covers just about
most of what you hear. (there is no president of promotions so VP is
the highest position)

Jimmy Rector is a record promoter for country songs on the Columbia label
working out of Nashville. He is one of about a thousand record promoters
listed in the Radio & Records directory of record labels. His influence is
limited to Columbia country product, not "most of what you hear."

[[email protected]]

On Nov 29, 2:12 pm, Stella Starr wrote:

Can you find an actual human who may have the power to do any local
programming?


There are actual humans, but one of them was a guest at a local
songwriter's group meeting a while back and stated specifically that
they have -0-, nada, zip discretion in what gets played.

I note that among the cuts they play is a version of "Have Yourself A
Merry Little Christmas" by the Pretenders. It has to be the most
godawful rendition of the song that's ever been recorded by a
"professional". It's so hideous it's funny.

There's a screechy version of "O Holy Night" floating around that was
supposedly sent in as a demo to the Christian label Word Records, but
was obviously a spoof, even if it really was sent in. This
Pretender's track is almost as bad and it wasn't meant to be a spoof.
I can't even fathom why it got added to the station's playlist.

[D C[_2_]]

wrote:

I note that among the cuts they play is a version of "Have Yourself A
Merry Little Christmas" by the Pretenders. It has to be the most
godawful rendition of the song that's ever been recorded by a
"professional". It's so hideous it's funny.

There's a screechy version of "O Holy Night" floating around that was
supposedly sent in as a demo to the Christian label Word Records, but
was obviously a spoof, even if it really was sent in. This
Pretender's track is almost as bad and it wasn't meant to be a spoof.
I can't even fathom why it got added to the station's playlist.


That was on a pretty big charity album, benefiting the Special Olympics.

[Danny T]

On Nov 29, 3:30 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Danny T" wrote in message

...

On Nov 28, 10:48 pm, Danny T wrote:

To be more specific, there is a catalog of songs that people will play
but money is spent BIG MONEY to put certain products in the forefront.

Radio stations in the significant markets confirm all music decisions
through consultation, called "research" with the listeners. When a new song
is played, within about a month listeners are consulted and if they don't
like it on the average, it is gone. But since a large percentage of adult
stations don't play much if any new songs, most stations let listeners
decide on a regular basis about all the non-current songs they play and the
results are followed faitfully.

It is illegal to accept money sub rosa for the playing of songs, and if play
is sponsored, like a commercial, it must be clearly identified to the
listener as being sponsored. Record companies seldom if ever show interst in
non-current songs being played, so stations playing library cuts seldom even
see a record promoter.

This is for every song you hear on the radio.

It is for NO song played on the radio. The fact that there have been less
than 10 payola indictments in the last 50 years shows that 99.99% of
stations and programmers are not engaging in illegal practices.

It isn't because bubba
joe called the radio (though that will determine order)

Calls to stations seldom cause a song to be played or the time they will be
played. Even "requests" are recorded and played back when the song is
schedulted to play naturally.

'cause bubba
never heard any of those song before the radio anyway. The big labels
spend huge $$ to get their record spinning and to keep it spinning.

No, they don't. It's illegal.

They play premium to have it placed in the front rack at mom and pop's
records as well as specs and all the rest.

That is retail, not radio. Coke pays for facings in stores, too. That is
legal.

The product you see is
marketed just like tide or coke. Jimmy Rector is the head of
promotions for most of the music on the radio today.

While Sony BMG (owner of Columbia and other imprints) it is just part of of
the group of larger record companies, including EMI, WEA, Universal and many
smaller lables. The Columbia label itself is a small part of the music
business.

He is titled as
VP of promotions for Columbia music group and that covers just about
most of what you hear. (there is no president of promotions so VP is
the highest position)

Jimmy Rector is a record promoter for country songs on the Columbia label
working out of Nashville. He is one of about a thousand record promoters
listed in the Radio & Records directory of record labels. His influence is
limited to Columbia country product, not "most of what you hear."

Jimmy use to be a record promoter now he is VP over all of them.
Anyone under their group of record companies is under his direction.
Even some that are with other companies that are not affiliated with
Columbia/BMG/RCA/etc. try to make him happy because he is one of the
most powerful people in that business. If you looked him up in a book,
remember that those books try to keep up but they are lagging in time
from details, to proofing, to printing, to distribution. It takes a
lot of time to put those things together and Jimmy, since the time of
whatever you looked has gone to print, left the company, moved to RGYB
and then back again. Granted I haven't had a beer with him for nearly
2 months, I'm pretty sure he would have called me to tell me he was
doing something different if he was.

[David Eduardo]

"Danny T" wrote in message
...

Jimmy use to be a record promoter now he is VP over all of them.
Anyone under their group of record companies is under his direction.

He apparently runs Columbia country promotion out of Nashville, although I
have never heard of him. He is not in charge of promotion for Sony BMG.

Even some that are with other companies that are not affiliated with
Columbia/BMG/RCA/etc. try to make him happy because he is one of the
most powerful people in that business.

No, he's not. And ducks don't go arond making other ducks happy. It is a
cutthroat business.

If you looked him up in a book,
remember that those books try to keep up but they are lagging in time
from details, to proofing, to printing, to distribution.

R&R is today's most important broadcast and music publication. It updates
its online directory every week.

It takes a
lot of time to put those things together

No, they do a few edits a week. It is always as up to date as the news in
R&R.

and Jimmy, since the time of
whatever you looked has gone to print, left the company, moved to RGYB
and then back again.

I looked at today's updated directory. He is a country record duck out of
Nashville. 90% of US radio stations don't play country, and Columbia is not
the biggest label... in fact, it only has one Top 50 r&r chart song this
week.

Granted I haven't had a beer with him for nearly
2 months, I'm pretty sure he would have called me to tell me he was
doing something different if he was.

You are full of crap.

[Danny T]

On Nov 29, 10:22 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Danny T" wrote in message

...



Jimmy use to be a record promoter now he is VP over all of them.
Anyone under their group of record companies is under his direction.

He apparently runs Columbia country promotion out of Nashville, although I
have never heard of him. He is not in charge of promotion for Sony BMG.

Even some that are with other companies that are not affiliated with
Columbia/BMG/RCA/etc. try to make him happy because he is one of the
most powerful people in that business.

No, he's not. And ducks don't go arond making other ducks happy. It is a
cutthroat business.

If you looked him up in a book,
remember that those books try to keep up but they are lagging in time
from details, to proofing, to printing, to distribution.

R&R is today's most important broadcast and music publication. It updates
its online directory every week.

It takes a
lot of time to put those things together

No, they do a few edits a week. It is always as up to date as the news in
R&R.

and Jimmy, since the time of
whatever you looked has gone to print, left the company, moved to RGYB
and then back again.

I looked at today's updated directory. He is a country record duck out of
Nashville. 90% of US radio stations don't play country, and Columbia is not
the biggest label... in fact, it only has one Top 50 r&r chart song this
week.

Granted I haven't had a beer with him for nearly
2 months, I'm pretty sure he would have called me to tell me he was
doing something different if he was.

You are full of crap.

He is a close friend of mine dumb ass. What to see a picture of us
sailing on my yacht last summer when he came to visit me? I think I
know more about him then you do.... He certainly does! Unless he and
the people that work for him are all lying to me then you are wrong.

[David Eduardo]

"Danny T" wrote in message
...
On Nov 29, 10:22 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

He is a close friend of mine dumb ass. What to see a picture of us
sailing on my yacht last summer when he came to visit me? I think I
know more about him then you do.... He certainly does! Unless he and
the people that work for him are all lying to me then you are wrong.

Yacht? Hahaha. LOL.

To have the money for a yacht means you either inherited it or made it.
While I suppose you could be a rich moron who inherited, I know you don't
have the money to have a yacht as wealthy people are generally intelligent,
educated and informed. Your posts on records and radio demonstrate someone
who is broadly ignorant and ill informed.

You are obviously a troll. Nobody but a troll would have posted the silly
things about radio music airplay you put in your original post,
demonstrating a total lack of understanding of the radio and record
businesses. That you don't know that the R&R directory is online and updated
each week caps it.

Columbia / Nashville is a small label among big ones. While the Columbia
records imprint, based in NY, has artists like Beyonce, the Nashville
operation is relatively small.

"Veteran country promotion man Jimmy Rector, who most recently served as
head of promotion for the Muzik Mafia's Raybaw Records, joins Sony BMG
Nashville as VP of promotion for Columbia Records Nashville. He replaces
Larry Pareigis, who exited suddenly on Jan. 23. Rector previously served at
BNA Records, which is now part of Sony BMG, for six-and-a-half years. He
became head of promotion for Raybaw in April of 2006."

As I said, he is a country record promoter... with a title. And you don't
have a yacht.

[Danny T]

On Nov 29, 10:51 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Danny T" wrote in message

...

On Nov 29, 10:22 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

He is a close friend of mine dumb ass. What to see a picture of us
sailing on my yacht last summer when he came to visit me? I think I
know more about him then you do.... He certainly does! Unless he and
the people that work for him are all lying to me then you are wrong.

Yacht? Hahaha. LOL.

To have the money for a yacht means you either inherited it or made it.
While I suppose you could be a rich moron who inherited, I know you don't
have the money to have a yacht as wealthy people are generally intelligent,
educated and informed. Your posts on records and radio demonstrate someone
who is broadly ignorant and ill informed.

You are obviously a troll. Nobody but a troll would have posted the silly
things about radio music airplay you put in your original post,
demonstrating a total lack of understanding of the radio and record
businesses. That you don't know that the R&R directory is online and updated
each week caps it.

Columbia / Nashville is a small label among big ones. While the Columbia
records imprint, based in NY, has artists like Beyonce, the Nashville
operation is relatively small.

"Veteran country promotion man Jimmy Rector, who most recently served as
head of promotion for the Muzik Mafia's Raybaw Records, joins Sony BMG
Nashville as VP of promotion for Columbia Records Nashville. He replaces
Larry Pareigis, who exited suddenly on Jan. 23. Rector previously served at
BNA Records, which is now part of Sony BMG, for six-and-a-half years. He
became head of promotion for Raybaw in April of 2006."

As I said, he is a country record promoter... with a title. And you don't
have a yacht.

You're right - this isn't me on my yacht with Gary Sinise this summer
when I took him sailing. I am a troll and those #1 songs that keep
paying for me to have fun are fake and I never was on MTV and all the
people that know me don't really.

I'm the one on the right. http://tinyurl.com/2bxj3z

[David Eduardo]

"Danny T" wrote in message
...

You're right - this isn't me on my yacht with Gary Sinise this summer
when I took him sailing. I am a troll and those #1 songs that keep
paying for me to have fun are fake and I never was on MTV and all the
people that know me don't really.

You are a troll who misunderstands both radio and music, and believes a
minor record duck at a smaller Nashville label is a big shot.

You could claim to be Shrek for all I care... your posts thoroughly
discredit you as being in the music or radio industries.

And I'm really the Lone Ranger.

[[email protected]]

On Nov 29, 10:56 pm, D C wrote:
This
Pretender's track is almost as bad and it wasn't meant to be a spoof.
I can't even fathom why it got added to the station's playlist.

That was on a pretty big charity album, benefiting the Special Olympics.


..snicker

Various humorously politically incorrect thoughts come to mind
regarding this connection.

I'll just say it still sucks. Bad.

[Danny T]

On Nov 29, 11:34 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Danny T" wrote in message

...



You're right - this isn't me on my yacht with Gary Sinise this summer
when I took him sailing. I am a troll and those #1 songs that keep
paying for me to have fun are fake and I never was on MTV and all the
people that know me don't really.

You are a troll who misunderstands both radio and music, and believes a
minor record duck at a smaller Nashville label is a big shot.

You could claim to be Shrek for all I care... your posts thoroughly
discredit you as being in the music or radio industries.

And I'm really the Lone Ranger.

You really are a gas buddy. I've been posting here since about the
creation of the group and anyone that's been around for a while knows
I am not a troll. BTW, what is your background in music? I'd love to
know - really

OH- I think Jimmy will be on Kenny Chesney's boat again for christmas
out on St. John if you want to tell him yourself that he is a little
little duck. He might be on his own this winter though because Kenny
is a power boat kind of guy. (he has a 65 foot sea ray)

[Danny T]

On Nov 29, 11:34 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Danny T" wrote in message

...



You're right - this isn't me on my yacht with Gary Sinise this summer
when I took him sailing. I am a troll and those #1 songs that keep
paying for me to have fun are fake and I never was on MTV and all the
people that know me don't really.

You are a troll who misunderstands both radio and music, and believes a
minor record duck at a smaller Nashville label is a big shot.

You could claim to be Shrek for all I care... your posts thoroughly
discredit you as being in the music or radio industries.

And I'm really the Lone Ranger.

Mike Krinik, the other guy in these photos (oops - out sailing with me
on my not yacth) is a little duck. He only runs Capitals western
region. Jimmy is a big duck only if I were you, I would be doing the
ducking from feeling a bit on the dumbass side. BTW, when you said I
don't have a boat, well you are party right. I have two and I am
buying another this month before the end of the year. I need to put
one up in long island sound because I don't want to bother shipping my
Miami boat up there every summer.

Here's a few photos. I just started using my new iweb that came from
leopard so I hope the thing works.
http://web.mac.com/dannytaddei1/The_...n_diego.html#3

[Danny T]

the link to the site - I'm quite aware there are spelling issues
and more but I published the site on accident and don't know how to
get rid of it. I just got iWeb and was playing with it so sue me......
I'll fix things later when I figure out how.

[David Eduardo]

"Danny T" wrote in message
...
On Nov 29, 11:34 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Danny T" wrote in message

...



You're right - this isn't me on my yacht with Gary Sinise this summer
when I took him sailing. I am a troll and those #1 songs that keep
paying for me to have fun are fake and I never was on MTV and all the
people that know me don't really.

You are a troll who misunderstands both radio and music, and believes a
minor record duck at a smaller Nashville label is a big shot.

You could claim to be Shrek for all I care... your posts thoroughly
discredit you as being in the music or radio industries.

And I'm really the Lone Ranger.

You really are a gas buddy. I've been posting here since about the
creation of the group and anyone that's been around for a while knows

I have visited the radio group for many many years, going back to when it
was a minor confusion with the real rec.radio.broadcasting. You did note
that one of your cross posts is to a RADIO group which is where your nasty,
lying and filthy comments accusing the industry of generalized payola were
particularly heinous. If you want to lie about radio, radio programmers and
how music is programmed, don't do it where you may actually find people who
are in the business.

I am not a troll. BTW, what is your background in music? I'd love to
know - really

My background is in radio broadcasting, although I owned a publishing
company and a small label at one time... outside the US.

OH- I think Jimmy will be on Kenny Chesney's boat again for christmas
out on St. John if you want to tell him yourself that he is a little
little duck.

He's a record duck for a smaller Nashville country label. Period. "Quack,
quack, play my record." And you seem to be a charter captain who dabbles
in music.

He might be on his own this winter though because Kenny
is a power boat kind of guy. (he has a 65 foot sea ray)

You are not Kenny. Kenny is actually a star and a great country artist. But
power boaters are the scourge of the Caribbean, especially when loaded with
drinking gringos.

[David Eduardo]

"Danny T" wrote in message
...

Mike Krinik, the other guy in these photos (oops - out sailing with me
on my not yacth) is a little duck. He only runs Capitals western
region.

Mike may be a perfectly nice guy, but before going with Capitol (not
Capital), he was PD of some station in Scranton, PA. That is not even a top
50 radio market. Going from a small, but good and successful country station
to being a record promoter seems to be a step down, though.

And, for reference, he reports to Capitol Nashville and is the West Coast
promo honcho for Capitol's country imprint, not the whole Capitol label.

The other guy you know is similarly mid to lower level in the record biz.

Jimmy is a big duck only if I were you, I would be doing the
ducking from feeling a bit on the dumbass side. BTW, when you said I
don't have a boat, well you are party right. I have two and I am
buying another this month before the end of the year. I need to put
one up in long island sound because I don't want to bother shipping my
Miami boat up there every summer.

They are out for charter? You surely don't make enough to buy a boat from
that pseudo-electronic Christmas drek I just heard and from the crummy
immitations of Caribbean music. Willy Colón or El Gran Combo or El Binomio
de Oro you definitely are not.

If you find that nasty, consider that what you said about the radio industry
and the fine professionals that program the 14 thousand US radio stations is
vastly more obnoxious, nasty and mean-spirited, and can only be partially
excused by the fact you know so little about radio that you could plead
ignorance. Or stupidity.

I feel better already.


Here's a few photos. I just started using my new iweb that came from
leopard so I hope the thing works.
http://web.mac.com/dannytaddei1/The_...n_diego.html#3

Well, at least you sail instead of running a gas guzzling floating bar. Do
you ever get out of a harbor?

[David Eduardo]

"Danny T" wrote in message
...
the link to the site - I'm quite aware there are spelling issues
and more but I published the site on accident and don't know how to
get rid of it. I just got iWeb and was playing with it so sue me......
I'll fix things later when I figure out how.

Try figuring out how the radio and record industries work, first.

[David Eduardo]

wrote in message
...

Any suggestions as to how to get them played or is it based on some
criteria a group of fans aren't going to have any influence over?

Adult contemporary stations make up the vast bulk of all stations going to a
100% Christmas music format at this time of year. Adult Contemporary, or AC
stations as they are known, play few currents and some play none.

At Christmas, the lists are selected for appeal and familiarity. Very few
new songs are added from one year to another, and the music for the next
year is tested with listeners for appeal around this time of the year this
year. In other words, the music for December 2008 is being tested right now.

Each radio company is likely to test music in several markets that represent
different currents within mainstream American white females from about 30 to
55. That is the appeal of all-Christmas, and it is a group that wants
familiarity, not a bunch of songs they have never heard before.

Remember, radio is in the business of selling advertising, not music. And
radio will be even less interested in new music if the RIAA imposes
royalties on radio, something that already has many in radio at odds with
the major record companies in the Luddite RIAA organization.

[Richard Crowley]

"David Eduardo" wrote ...
"Danny T" wrote ...
You really are a gas buddy. I've been posting here since about the
creation of the group and anyone that's been around for a while knows

I have visited the radio group for many many years, going back to when
it was a minor confusion with the real rec.radio.broadcasting. You did
note that one of your cross posts is to a RADIO group which is where
your nasty, lying and filthy comments accusing the industry of
generalized payola were particularly heinous. If you want to lie about
radio, radio programmers and how music is programmed, don't do it
where you may actually find people who are in the business.

I am not a troll. BTW, what is your background in music? I'd love to
know - really

Many have plonked "DannyT" for his extremely low
signal-to-noise ratio here in rec.audio.pro Google
Groups statistics does not agree with his claims of
longevity and participation, reinforcing his perception
as a troll.

[David Eduardo]

"Richard Crowley" wrote in message
...
"David Eduardo" wrote ...

I am not a troll. BTW, what is your background in music? I'd love to
know - really

Many have plonked "DannyT" for his extremely low
signal-to-noise ratio here in rec.audio.pro Google
Groups statistics does not agree with his claims of
longevity and participation, reinforcing his perception
as a troll.

Thank you for the insight. I am going to snag the "low signal to noise
ratio" phrase for future use!

[D C[_2_]]

Danny T wrote:

He is a close friend of mine dumb ass. What to see a picture of us
sailing on my yacht last summer when he came to visit me?

Ooo ooo ooo! Can I see it? How about in your plane?

[GregS[_3_]]

In article , D C wrote:
Danny T wrote:

He is a close friend of mine dumb ass. What to see a picture of us
sailing on my yacht last summer when he came to visit me?

Ooo ooo ooo! Can I see it? How about in your plane?

Its on the yacht.

[D C[_2_]]

wrote:

That was on a pretty big charity album, benefiting the Special Olympics.


.snicker

Various humorously politically incorrect thoughts come to mind
regarding this connection.


That doesn't say much for you.


I'll just say it still sucks. Bad.


Good for you. They got top billing he

http://www.amazon.com/Very-Special-C.../dp/B000002GFJ

[Scott Dorsey]

David Eduardo wrote:

At Christmas, the lists are selected for appeal and familiarity. Very few
new songs are added from one year to another, and the music for the next
year is tested with listeners for appeal around this time of the year this
year. In other words, the music for December 2008 is being tested right now.

Coincidentally, as I read your post, my local college radio station is
playing a punk song entitled "Santa Claus is a Child Molester." I don't
think it'll make top 40, though, if only because of the number of times
they use the word "****."
--scott


--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[Danny T]

On Nov 30, 1:47 am, "Richard Crowley" wrote:
"David Eduardo" wrote ...

"Danny T" wrote ...
You really are a gas buddy. I've been posting here since about the
creation of the group and anyone that's been around for a while knows

I have visited the radio group for many many years, going back to when
it was a minor confusion with the real rec.radio.broadcasting. You did
note that one of your cross posts is to a RADIO group which is where
your nasty, lying and filthy comments accusing the industry of
generalized payola were particularly heinous. If you want to lie about
radio, radio programmers and how music is programmed, don't do it
where you may actually find people who are in the business.

I am not a troll. BTW, what is your background in music? I'd love to
know - really

Many have plonked "DannyT" for his extremely low
signal-to-noise ratio here in rec.audio.pro Google
Groups statistics does not agree with his claims of
longevity and participation, reinforcing his perception
as a troll.

Richard, I think you know that I spend 6 months or more at a time out
sailing the caribbean and have been doing that since 1993. That kinda
takes away from using the internet. Punk me if you want for showing up
and leaving but while I'm out sipping rum drinks I really won't worry
much about others shortcomings.

[[email protected]]

Richard, I think you know that I spend 6 months or more at a time out
sailing the caribbean and have been doing that since 1993. That kinda
takes away from using the internet. Punk me if you want for showing up
and leaving but while I'm out sipping rum drinks I really won't worry
much about others shortcomings.- Hide quoted text -
I will vouch that Danny has indeed been around this forum for a long
time. He also has told us on more than one occasion about his yatcht
and how he is pretty much retired. So now this issue has been brought
up again, I am curious, where did you gethe money to retire so early?
You've imtimated that you made it from the entertainment business but
that seems a little unlikely given your age. So now I'd like to know
- so how about it.

Mike

[Danny T]

On Nov 30, 8:11 pm, wrote:
Richard, I think you know that I spend 6 months or more at a time out
sailing the caribbean and have been doing that since 1993. That kinda
takes away from using the internet. Punk me if you want for showing up
and leaving but while I'm out sipping rum drinks I really won't worry
much about others shortcomings.- Hide quoted text -

I will vouch that Danny has indeed been around this forum for a long
time. He also has told us on more than one occasion about his yatcht
and how he is pretty much retired. So now this issue has been brought
up again, I am curious, where did you gethe money to retire so early?
You've imtimated that you made it from the entertainment business but
that seems a little unlikely given your age. So now I'd like to know
- so how about it.

Mike

Mike, I'm 45. I've been a studio piano player since 1979. Its a long
story there but I got a foot in when I was at a session and the hired
guy couldn't find the new (at that time) Evergreen Studio. I played
all the LA clubs back when they paid for music and had a few near
misses with big time but In 1982 I was in a band and wrote a hit. I've
had a few since and I wrote more sound tracks then I can remember. I
think if you look back you will find a mention of how I went from 80's
bands to musical director for Little Dion, The Coasters, and a slew of
other motown guys. After I did the Motown band thing, to working for
Orion TV. After Orion TV folded I went solo and did work for Horizon
and a few other film companies and ran my studio Demos Masters. I
wrote my first movie score in 83 I think... I'd have to check but it
was about then for a film called There Comes A Time. I've done a lot
of stuff over my life including getting my pilots license and flight
instructor license. I opened a flight school named Los Angeles Sky
Safari (van nuys) and later sold it and y 15 airplanes so I could go
sailing for 5 years. When I came back I stayed 6 years and did the
same old sound track thing. 4 years ago in august I packed up and went
sailing again for the better part of that time. I took time off the
boat for land vacations but Hurricane Wilma messed my boat up 2 years
ago. I fixed her up but got off last summer to take some time and go
to the Rockies for a while. I went to Utah (oops!) and spent 8 months
there before taking off for a few months of cross country vacation by
car. I ended up in San Diego for last summer and now I am on my way
back to Florida where I am picking up my new boat so I can play some
more.

There you have it - my life story in a nutshell. It won't do you any
good and I know I will have half a dozen low life losers yanking my
crank before the night is out. I own a publishing company. I thought
to quit music once and was working for the DOJ when I decided being an
attorney was absolutely not for me, especially when I made more money
in music. I have a US Coastguard 100 ton masters (captain license) and
a few other certificates and licenses - but who's counting. I'm one of
those people that applied myself and for those that don't, they can
kiss my arse. I'm sick of people saying I inherited my money because
my dad was successful. He is and was but I earned all of my money on
my own. EVERY PENNY!

I see my contracts floating around on web sites for people to
download. Those are contracts that I wrote and people use daily in the
biz and still they tell me I don't know what I am doing. As far as I
am concerned, I have spent a hell of a lot of wasted time help
ungrateful losers and all with asking little if anything back. There
are some great people in here but I am friends with them no matter if
I am here or not so I am officially gone. I just happened to have this
page open and noticed you updated after you emailed me at home -thanks
for that BTW. I've got better things to do.

I know there will be a heave of posts after this one but I will not be
responding. When I click send, the next thing I am doing is
unsubscribing from this list so I don't have to look at the group
anymore.

Have a nice life

[D C[_2_]]

Danny T wrote:

Here's a few photos. I just started using my new iweb that came from
leopard so I hope the thing works.
http://web.mac.com/dannytaddei1/The_...n_diego.html#3



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On Nov 30, 9:53 am, D C wrote:

Various humorously politically incorrect thoughts come to mind
regarding this connection.

That doesn't say much for you.


Oh, now I've gone and ruffled someone's sensibilities.

I'll just say it still sucks. Bad.

Good for you. They got top billing he

http://www.amazon.com/Very-Special-C.../dp/B000002GFJ


A) They're track 5, how is that "top billing"?
B) Britney Spears sells a boatload of albums having no discernible
talent
C) Who cares, the track is still terrible.