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nyob123 wrote
Bias controlled with minimum stress. http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/...elityaudio.php Any particular entries in there that boggles your mind ? C'mon, paste them up. |
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"Signal" wrote in message ... " emitted : Bias controlled with minimum stress. http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/...elityaudio.php ABX? No. Did yo miss the several times I've said that ABX is not the only way to do a reliable comparison of audio gear? Blind listening is best for evaluation, sighted is best for everything else. |
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 07:51:13 GMT, wrote:
Blind listening is best for evaluation, sighted is best for everything else. Blind is good for sex too. |
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wrote in message k.net... "Signal" wrote in message ... " emitted : Bias controlled with minimum stress. http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/...elityaudio.php ABX? No. Did yo miss the several times I've said that ABX is not the only way to do a reliable comparison of audio gear? Blind listening is best for evaluation, sighted is best for everything else. No, it should be evaluated in the real world day to day listening environment, afa as one's home system goes. |
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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... wrote in message k.net... "Signal" wrote in message ... " emitted : Bias controlled with minimum stress. http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/...elityaudio.php ABX? No. Did yo miss the several times I've said that ABX is not the only way to do a reliable comparison of audio gear? Blind listening is best for evaluation, sighted is best for everything else. No, it should be evaluated in the real world day to day listening environment, afa as one's home system goes. IOW, evaluations should be done in the least relaible, most prone to error way you can think of. Sorry, but the evidence is against you. |
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wrote in message nk.net... "Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... wrote in message k.net... "Signal" wrote in message ... " emitted : Bias controlled with minimum stress. http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/...elityaudio.php ABX? No. Did yo miss the several times I've said that ABX is not the only way to do a reliable comparison of audio gear? Blind listening is best for evaluation, sighted is best for everything else. No, it should be evaluated in the real world day to day listening environment, afa as one's home system goes. IOW, evaluations should be done in the least relaible, most prone to error way you can think of. Sorry, but the evidence is against you. After you come back from the 'lab', there uare, back at home, day after day, listening to music in that 'horrible' environment. |
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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... wrote in message nk.net... "Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... wrote in message k.net... "Signal" wrote in message ... " emitted : Bias controlled with minimum stress. http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/...elityaudio.php ABX? No. Did yo miss the several times I've said that ABX is not the only way to do a reliable comparison of audio gear? Blind listening is best for evaluation, sighted is best for everything else. No, it should be evaluated in the real world day to day listening environment, afa as one's home system goes. IOW, evaluations should be done in the least relaible, most prone to error way you can think of. Sorry, but the evidence is against you. After you come back from the 'lab', there uare, back at home, day after day, listening to music in that 'horrible' environment. You can do an ABX test at home. As long as you match the levels and can't see what DUT is active at any given moment. Removing bias doesn't mean leaving home. |
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wrote in message ink.net... "Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... wrote in message nk.net... "Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... wrote in message k.net... "Signal" wrote in message ... " emitted : Bias controlled with minimum stress. http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/...elityaudio.php ABX? No. Did yo miss the several times I've said that ABX is not the only way to do a reliable comparison of audio gear? Blind listening is best for evaluation, sighted is best for everything else. No, it should be evaluated in the real world day to day listening environment, afa as one's home system goes. IOW, evaluations should be done in the least relaible, most prone to error way you can think of. Sorry, but the evidence is against you. After you come back from the 'lab', there uare, back at home, day after day, listening to music in that 'horrible' environment. You can do an ABX test at home. As long as you match the levels and can't see what DUT is active at any given moment. Removing bias doesn't mean leaving home. Get it straight. The 'lab' I refer to is the test envirionment, no matter the location. 'Home' refers to your normal listening environment, 'environment' refers to mode, i.e., relaxed listening for purposes of enjoyment, you know, the environment with all those biases. |
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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... wrote in message ink.net... "Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... wrote in message nk.net... "Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... wrote in message k.net... "Signal" wrote in message ... " emitted : Bias controlled with minimum stress. http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/...elityaudio.php ABX? No. Did yo miss the several times I've said that ABX is not the only way to do a reliable comparison of audio gear? Blind listening is best for evaluation, sighted is best for everything else. No, it should be evaluated in the real world day to day listening environment, afa as one's home system goes. IOW, evaluations should be done in the least relaible, most prone to error way you can think of. Sorry, but the evidence is against you. After you come back from the 'lab', there uare, back at home, day after day, listening to music in that 'horrible' environment. You can do an ABX test at home. As long as you match the levels and can't see what DUT is active at any given moment. Removing bias doesn't mean leaving home. Get it straight. The 'lab' I refer to is the test envirionment, no matter the location. 'Home' refers to your normal listening environment, 'environment' refers to mode, i.e., relaxed listening for purposes of enjoyment, you know, the environment with all those biases. I got it, you refuse to accept that one of the most valuable tools for determining subtle difference will actually work for that purpose. Now all you have to do is understand why that position is erroneous. |
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wrote in message nk.net... "Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... wrote in message ink.net... "Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... wrote in message nk.net... "Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... wrote in message k.net... "Signal" wrote in message ... " emitted : Bias controlled with minimum stress. http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/...elityaudio.php ABX? No. Did yo miss the several times I've said that ABX is not the only way to do a reliable comparison of audio gear? Blind listening is best for evaluation, sighted is best for everything else. No, it should be evaluated in the real world day to day listening environment, afa as one's home system goes. IOW, evaluations should be done in the least relaible, most prone to error way you can think of. Sorry, but the evidence is against you. After you come back from the 'lab', there uare, back at home, day after day, listening to music in that 'horrible' environment. You can do an ABX test at home. As long as you match the levels and can't see what DUT is active at any given moment. Removing bias doesn't mean leaving home. Get it straight. The 'lab' I refer to is the test envirionment, no matter the location. 'Home' refers to your normal listening environment, 'environment' refers to mode, i.e., relaxed listening for purposes of enjoyment, you know, the environment with all those biases. I got it, you refuse to accept that one of the most valuable tools for determining subtle difference will actually work for that purpose. Now all you have to do is understand why that position is erroneous. |
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No pain, just gain
wrote in message nk.net... "Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... wrote in message ink.net... "Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... wrote in message nk.net... "Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... wrote in message k.net... "Signal" wrote in message ... " emitted : Bias controlled with minimum stress. http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/...elityaudio.php ABX? No. Did yo miss the several times I've said that ABX is not the only way to do a reliable comparison of audio gear? Blind listening is best for evaluation, sighted is best for everything else. No, it should be evaluated in the real world day to day listening environment, afa as one's home system goes. IOW, evaluations should be done in the least relaible, most prone to error way you can think of. Sorry, but the evidence is against you. After you come back from the 'lab', there uare, back at home, day after day, listening to music in that 'horrible' environment. You can do an ABX test at home. As long as you match the levels and can't see what DUT is active at any given moment. Removing bias doesn't mean leaving home. Get it straight. The 'lab' I refer to is the test envirionment, no matter the location. 'Home' refers to your normal listening environment, 'environment' refers to mode, i.e., relaxed listening for purposes of enjoyment, you know, the environment with all those biases. I got it, you refuse to accept that one of the most valuable tools for determining subtle difference will actually work for that purpose. Now all you have to do is understand why that position is erroneous. |
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wrote in message nk.net... "Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... wrote in message ink.net... "Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... wrote in message nk.net... "Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... wrote in message k.net... "Signal" wrote in message ... " emitted : Bias controlled with minimum stress. http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/...elityaudio.php ABX? No. Did yo miss the several times I've said that ABX is not the only way to do a reliable comparison of audio gear? Blind listening is best for evaluation, sighted is best for everything else. No, it should be evaluated in the real world day to day listening environment, afa as one's home system goes. IOW, evaluations should be done in the least relaible, most prone to error way you can think of. Sorry, but the evidence is against you. After you come back from the 'lab', there uare, back at home, day after day, listening to music in that 'horrible' environment. You can do an ABX test at home. As long as you match the levels and can't see what DUT is active at any given moment. Removing bias doesn't mean leaving home. Get it straight. The 'lab' I refer to is the test envirionment, no matter the location. 'Home' refers to your normal listening environment, 'environment' refers to mode, i.e., relaxed listening for purposes of enjoyment, you know, the environment with all those biases. I got it, you refuse to accept that one of the most valuable tools for determining subtle difference will actually work for that purpose. Cause it doesn't work for that purpose when you go back to sighted listining and the difference is still there. it is useless for consumer purposes, because consumer listening is sighted lsitening for the sake of enjoyment. The DBT results, whether negative or positive are useless, they do not apply to consumer listening. Now all you have to do is understand why that position is erroneous. Its your position that is erroneous, applied to the point of view of the consumer, for his own audio equipment selections. |
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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... wrote in message nk.net... "Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... wrote in message ink.net... "Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... wrote in message nk.net... "Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... wrote in message k.net... "Signal" wrote in message ... " emitted : Bias controlled with minimum stress. http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/...elityaudio.php ABX? No. Did yo miss the several times I've said that ABX is not the only way to do a reliable comparison of audio gear? Blind listening is best for evaluation, sighted is best for everything else. No, it should be evaluated in the real world day to day listening environment, afa as one's home system goes. IOW, evaluations should be done in the least relaible, most prone to error way you can think of. Sorry, but the evidence is against you. After you come back from the 'lab', there uare, back at home, day after day, listening to music in that 'horrible' environment. You can do an ABX test at home. As long as you match the levels and can't see what DUT is active at any given moment. Removing bias doesn't mean leaving home. Get it straight. The 'lab' I refer to is the test envirionment, no matter the location. 'Home' refers to your normal listening environment, 'environment' refers to mode, i.e., relaxed listening for purposes of enjoyment, you know, the environment with all those biases. I got it, you refuse to accept that one of the most valuable tools for determining subtle difference will actually work for that purpose. Cause it doesn't work for that purpose when you go back to sighted listining and the difference is still there. it is useless for consumer purposes, because consumer listening is sighted lsitening for the sake of enjoyment. The DBT results, whether negative or positive are useless, they do not apply to consumer listening. Now all you have to do is understand why that position is erroneous. Its your position that is erroneous, applied to the point of view of the consumer, for his own audio equipment selections. If the consumer has the idea that one of the components he's considering buying sounds different than what he already has, then a DBT is one way to find out. non-bias controlled listening, is not reliable for evaluation. |
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wrote in message ink.net... "Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... Cause it doesn't work for that purpose when you go back to sighted listining and the difference is still there. it is useless for consumer purposes, because consumer listening is sighted lsitening for the sake of enjoyment. The DBT results, whether negative or positive are useless, they do not apply to consumer listening. Now all you have to do is understand why that position is erroneous. Its your position that is erroneous, applied to the point of view of the consumer, for his own audio equipment selections. If the consumer has the idea that one of the components he's considering buying sounds different than what he already has, then a DBT is one way to find out. non-bias controlled listening, is not reliable for evaluation. Sure it is, its the normal mode for listening to music. Try out the equipment in your normal mode. |
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No pain, just gain
"Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... wrote in message ink.net... "Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... Cause it doesn't work for that purpose when you go back to sighted listining and the difference is still there. it is useless for consumer purposes, because consumer listening is sighted lsitening for the sake of enjoyment. The DBT results, whether negative or positive are useless, they do not apply to consumer listening. Now all you have to do is understand why that position is erroneous. Its your position that is erroneous, applied to the point of view of the consumer, for his own audio equipment selections. If the consumer has the idea that one of the components he's considering buying sounds different than what he already has, then a DBT is one way to find out. non-bias controlled listening, is not reliable for evaluation. Sure it is, its the normal mode for listening to music. Try out the equipment in your normal mode. Except that the research says otherwise. Where is the research that demonstrates your view is correct? Answer: It doesn't exist. |
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wrote in message ink.net... "Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... wrote in message ink.net... "Clyde Slick" wrote in message ... Cause it doesn't work for that purpose when you go back to sighted listining and the difference is still there. it is useless for consumer purposes, because consumer listening is sighted lsitening for the sake of enjoyment. The DBT results, whether negative or positive are useless, they do not apply to consumer listening. Now all you have to do is understand why that position is erroneous. Its your position that is erroneous, applied to the point of view of the consumer, for his own audio equipment selections. If the consumer has the idea that one of the components he's considering buying sounds different than what he already has, then a DBT is one way to find out. non-bias controlled listening, is not reliable for evaluation. Sure it is, its the normal mode for listening to music. Try out the equipment in your normal mode. Except that the research says otherwise. WHAT RESEARCH ? there is NO research on the question of what amp or cd players I prefer to listen through. I didn't think the question was THAT important! Mikey there is no relevant research for this, nor is there any research regarding whether I like Heinz or Hunts ketchup the best. |
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